Lowering Euro

[jooneth]

I am from Sydney. Does anyone know where is the good place to get your Euro lowered? And how much would it cost? What is the minnimum height you can lower? If you know any cheap and good place, please share.

[akina]

Hmm... well i got mine done at IS Motor Racing... their abit expensive tho, however, they are great people.

Last time I was there he told me the Tein SS was selling for $2300 fitted.

Not too sure about the minimum height u can go tho with the Tein SS... But y would u go with the minimum :p

i lowered mine 25mm or maybe a little bit more... ppl say it still looks stock =.=

[snYpz]

any other ppl with pics of their euro lowered by 25mm...
i will get mine done proabably at the end of the year just wanna see how it looks.
seen akina's but want to see more! :D
will be getting tein ss...if u wanna lower ur car more, probably get tein flex or sth

[jooneth]

damn.. i didn't know lowering the car was that expensive!!!! What do you do with the spring? Do you just get shorter suspension? I thought it would be somewhere below 400 bucks......

[enkay]

u can get springs, buts its not recommended as you dont know when the stock shocks will give. u could upgrade the shocks too but with that price range its better to save a bit more for coilovers..
also changing the springs apparently doesnt give you a very good ride quality

[BusterSonic12]

Not all suspension cost that much, look at other places too b4 buying, u might find some Tein SS about $1400-500 or lower ^.^ and there are heaps of different coilovers to choose from too. Like buddyclub N+ etc etc. It depends how you want the comfort after being lowered.

p.s: don't we having 1000s of post talking about this?? =.=

[akina]

probably get tein flex or sth

didnt they like stop making the Tein Flex?? or was it sumthing else?

[TEMPTN]

ive got lowered springs that i would sell for cheap if u intrested
its lowered 7inches in the back and 5 at the front :P

[akina]

its lowered 7inches in the back and 5 at the front :P

lmao! how would they survive on sydney roads :p

as said b4... lowered springs is not recommended, also dangerous!

[jooneth]

lmao! how would they survive on sydney roads :p

as said b4... lowered springs is not recommended, also dangerous!


So it's best to get a full set of suspension that's already been lowered?

[BusterSonic12]

So it's best to get a full set of suspension that's already been lowered?

depends what u mean full set, most of the aftermarket coilovers (springs + damper) -e.g Tein + buddyclub- that i know of are height and damper adjustable. So you can change the height to suit yourself, and the damper for your comfort. But there are suspension (one of the mugen) are not adjustable so it is similar to stock, it has a fixed height + damper setting *ithink*

[--eskimo-eg--]

you can try Top One workshop in Sydney, not sure about the exact address though, but its a good workshop, i even have a mate that drove down to sydney all the way from melbourne just to lower his merc

[akina]

i even have a mate that drove down to sydney all the way from melbourne just to lower his merc

lol... was that necessary?

Also, Mugen has 2 sets of suspension right for the CL9.

There is the Sports suspension which is unadjustable. What i currently have.

And, a 5adj suspension which is adjustable. (learner has it)

[--eskimo-eg--]

lol... was that necessary?

Also, Mugen has 2 sets of suspension right for the CL9.

There is the Sports suspension which is unadjustable. What i currently have.

And, a 5adj suspension which is adjustable. (learner has it)

lol well according to him he cant really trusts most workshops here in melb, and apparently Top One does a really good job, i wouldnt be bothered to do that though, dont really have that much time to waste lolz

[aaronng]

A good place is Pro Concept over at West Ryde. They aren't cheap, but are much better than IS Motor Racing.

[EUR003act]

Pedders do super low springs for the euro, they lower 1 and 1/2 inch at the front, 1inch at the back, sits very nice... see my photos in the introductions section... only cost $320 for the springs... improves handling nicely (may be abit soft for some drivers, but hey, i do long trips, not track days!) feel free to ask me anything about my euro :D cheers

[tony1234]

As others have said before change both shocks and springs or go coilovers.

[jooneth]

Pedders do super low springs for the euro, they lower 1 and 1/2 inch at the front, 1inch at the back, sits very nice... see my photos in the introductions section... only cost $320 for the springs... improves handling nicely (may be abit soft for some drivers, but hey, i do long trips, not track days!) feel free to ask me anything about my euro :D cheers

How is ride and conform like? Is it rigid?

[aaronng]

How is ride and conform like? Is it rigid?

When you go for lowered springs, you need lowered shocks because your stock ones won't be working properly (hitting the bumpstops). That's why the ride is usually harsh. When you use stiffer springs, you also have to increase the damper rating to compensate.

[EUR003act]

When you go for lowered springs, you need lowered shocks because your stock ones won't be working properly (hitting the bumpstops). That's why the ride is usually harsh. When you use stiffer springs, you also have to increase the damper rating to compensate.


except for springs pred made for the application. pedders super lows are designed to work in conjunction with OEM springs, and its not a matter of hitting bump stops as youve got about 5-6inch of play in the euros shocks, its more a matter of the suspensions characteristics, ie: rebound and compression. and thats why you cant go majorly low with them.... cause itd stuff all that up.

[Rein]

If you're looking to lower your car, i suggest you go for a full set of suspension. i have TEIN Flex fitted to my car, dropped 2inch front and 2.2inch at the back. so far i havent had any clearance problem driving on Sydney roads. well heres a pic on how it would look like dropping it by 2 inches.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7228/img4578uy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tein flex: $1980 Delivered (from EDW-R one of the traders here)
Fitted: $180 at TOP ONE Automotive, 47-53 Princess Hwy, Arncliffe, NSW, 2205 Ph: (02) 9599 8965

[Rein]

lol well according to him he cant really trusts most workshops here in melb, and apparently Top One does a really good job, i wouldnt be bothered to do that though, dont really have that much time to waste lolz

Yeh TOP ONE does a really good job, i go there to get my car serviced and parts fitted, i dont trust any other workshops in sydney, most of them are dodgy. but i guess everyone has different opinions.

TOP ONE Automotive, 47-53 Princess Hwy, Arncliffe, NSW, 2205 Ph: (02) 9599 8965

[aaronng]

except for springs pred made for the application. pedders super lows are designed to work in conjunction with OEM springs, and its not a matter of hitting bump stops as youve got about 5-6inch of play in the euros shocks, its more a matter of the suspensions characteristics, ie: rebound and compression. and thats why you cant go majorly low with them.... cause itd stuff all that up.

:) There is also an optimum range for shock operation. Exceed that range, then you'll get blown shocks pretty quick. The limit for the Euro's stock shocks is about 1.5-2".

[snYpz]

Whats the purpose of corner balancing when fitting the coilovers? does it distribute the weight of the car evenly or sth?
anyone got pics of car lowered 25mm all-round...:D

[EUR003act]

:) There is also an optimum range for shock operation. Exceed that range, then you'll get blown shocks pretty quick. The limit for the Euro's stock shocks is about 1.5-2".

true that :D

[E-Gene]

So what springs would fall under that category or only a 1.5"-2" drop?

[aaronng]

Whats the purpose of corner balancing when fitting the coilovers? does it distribute the weight of the car evenly or sth?
anyone got pics of car lowered 25mm all-round...:D

It equalises the sum of your front right corner and rear left corner to the sum of the front left corner and rear right corner. It is so that the weight shift is similar when you corner both left and right, making your handling more predictable.

25mm height reduction:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7043/dscn0729ip4.jpg

[EUR003act]

So what springs would fall under that category or only a 1.5"-2" drop?

pedders...

[tony1234]

It equalises the sum of your front right corner and rear left corner to the sum of the front left corner and rear right corner. It is so that the weight shift is similar when you corner both left and right, making your handling more predictable.

25mm height reduction:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7043/dscn0729ip4.jpg
Nice drop,not too much.BTW Aaron you need 17s on there!:D

[tony1234]

So what springs would fall under that category or only a 1.5"-2" drop?
Eibach or H&R.

[aaronng]

Nice drop,not too much.BTW Aaron you need 17s on there!:D

Then tyres would cost more! :)

Plus I already have 2 sets of the 16". Having it look stock also attracts less attention from thieves and car scratchers.

[_CiVIC_]

I've lowered mine on pedders sports ryder springs on the standard shocks, cost me $420 including parts and labour. I lowered it abou 14,000kms ago and its going all well *touch wood*

I think the pedders sports ryder is the lowest from pedders, about 1-1.5inches lower at the front and 1.5inches lower at the back.

Heres a pic lowered on 18" rims:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b261/_alfy_/Euro/DSC01255.jpg

[Rein]

I've lowered mine on pedders sports ryder springs on the standard shocks, cost me $420 including parts and labour. I lowered it abou 14,000kms ago and its going all well *touch wood*

I think the pedders sports ryder is the lowest from pedders, about 1-1.5inches lower at the front and 1.5inches lower at the back.

Heres a pic lowered on 18" rims:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b261/_alfy_/Euro/DSC01255.jpg


you can get lower springs from pedders, a friends of mine bought "Pedders Super Low" springs for his euro, cost him around $550 fitted. dropped 2inch front and 2.2inch rear

[EUR003act]

you can get lower springs from pedders, a friends of mine bought "Pedders Super Low" springs for his euro, cost him around $550 fitted. dropped 2inch front and 2.2inch rear

not true. sports rider are the lowest pedders do for the euro. i checked with pedders, both on the net and in person at their shopfront. the sports rider are sometimes called super lows, because theyre lower than the stock springs (which pedders also do and are a replacement for the OEM euro springs).

[luv_psi]

Sorry to hijack the thread but Im looking at gettin the Tein Superstreet coilovers. Anyone know if I can still maintain very close to stock ride comfort with these coilovers? or if someone can recommend what's the best to use.

I was considering the eibach springs installed and keeping the stock shocks. Im not gonna do any track work with the car at all, just a daily driver, but i wanna have height adjustable suspension and still have close to stock ride comfort.

[NeoNode]

Sorry to hijack the thread but Im looking at gettin the Tein Superstreet coilovers. Anyone know if I can still maintain very close to stock ride comfort with these coilovers? or if someone can recommend what's the best to use.
Please refer to this thread.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68334

[luv_psi]

oops....sorry

thanks for that

[aaronng]

Sorry to hijack the thread but Im looking at gettin the Tein Superstreet coilovers. Anyone know if I can still maintain very close to stock ride comfort with these coilovers? or if someone can recommend what's the best to use.

I was considering the eibach springs installed and keeping the stock shocks. Im not gonna do any track work with the car at all, just a daily driver, but i wanna have height adjustable suspension and still have close to stock ride comfort.

SS is pretty comfortable. Ask Mugen88, he has them on his Euro.

[Merlin086]

Sorry to hijack the thread but Im looking at gettin the Tein Superstreet coilovers. Anyone know if I can still maintain very close to stock ride comfort with these coilovers? or if someone can recommend what's the best to use.

I was considering the eibach springs installed and keeping the stock shocks. Im not gonna do any track work with the car at all, just a daily driver, but i wanna have height adjustable suspension and still have close to stock ride comfort.

Go for it!
I've found that with 16 settings on the Tein SS, midway, about 8 is pretty close to standard ride.
So you have the abilty to go either way for either softer or harder.........16 is bone jarring on concrete roads!!

[eg_08_wa]

sorry to bring up an old thread, but my question didnt warrant a new thread.
I've called around suspension places, and all they can tell me is that the lowest you can lower a euro on stock shocks is no more than 1.75" and therefor 2" is out of the question.
Is this true?? short of going coilovers, there is no other way to lower a euro on std shocks more than 1.75"

any help would be greatly appriciated.

[markCivicVti]

You should be able to lower it 2 - 2.5 on kings super lows... but anything after 1.75 will dramatically lower the life of your stock shocks. Hopefully someone here with a euro can give you specific springs that would suit for the height you want.

[Crapdaz]

You should be able to lower it 2 - 2.5 on kings super lows... but anything after 1.75 will dramatically lower the life of your stock shocks. Hopefully someone here with a euro can give you specific springs that would suit for the height you want.
Agreed,

eg_wa-08 - but in the case of lowering if you get lowering spring you may as well invest in a set of quality shocks too. No point doing one and not the other.

[Bigpauly2788]

you can try Top One workshop in Sydney, not sure about the exact address though, but its a good workshop, i even have a mate that drove down to sydney all the way from melbourne just to lower his merc

I had my Coilovers and camber installed by top one they are good and cheap too.

Also i have a set of King springs that have not even done 1000km as i recently changed to coilovers.

And btw JDM branded coilovers have all gone up in price...

If you are interested in my king springs they would lower your euro by 50mm at the front and 35mm at the back, the only reason i changed to coilovers was that i wanted to go much lower.

If you are interested please PM me :) my Avatar is of my car before i got my 20" wheels and coilovers, that is what it looks like stock with 17" wheels.

cheers
pauly

[Suntzu]

One thing i found when lowering my Euro with Tein SS ( with RSB)

if the rear was higher then the front 9 or the front lower than the rear of course) then the car became ARSE HAPPY in roundabouts. Im talking serious oversteer potential.

So I lowered my rear to same as front to be safe.

Something to be mindfull of.

[Bigpauly2788]

With the king springs that i used to have on my car it worked out even, because the car was lower on the rear end stock.

[longers]

i don't have a euro, but i have the accord vti, and both cars a quite similar.
i bought myself a set of eibachs, sportline to be specific, gave me a
2" drop and the front and 1.9" drop at the rears.

im running stock shocks by the way

[Ken-f]

how long ago was that longers? Any issues with your stocks yet?

If its cheap enough and wont damage my stock shocks. I only want to lower my car 1-1.5"

Also, no issues with camber right?

[vte18c]

I just put kings lows on mine.. the front is about right but I think the rears should be made another half inch lower. As others have said, if you go superlows you ruin your standard shocks in no time. For real low go coilovers, but for me I just wanted it slightly lower for my new rims and couldnt be assed forking out for coilovers on a leased car. The ride is nice actually, hardly any different to stock.. just make sure u get a wheel alignment afterwards.. no camber issues no.

[Ken-f]

Any pics? I really only want to drop mine 1.5" max. I'll scrape too much any lower and I dun wanna pay more than $500 ish. My only conern is the stock shocks blowing.

[vte18c]

kings lows are ok on your shocks, its superlows that really kill them.

[longers]

how long ago was that longers? Any issues with your stocks yet?

If its cheap enough and wont damage my stock shocks. I only want to lower my car 1-1.5"

Also, no issues with camber right?

ummmm..was pretty recent about a month ago...running smoothly no problems yet. it was weird though, as the guy was taking the car off the hydraulic lift he was like you shouldn't see the dumpage at all...then when it
was completely off the lift it just sank hahaha :thumbsup:

im not sure how much the euro's lower via eibach....i drive an accord so yeah.

and yeah i have camber...slightly negative at the rears, but the accord was
known to have camber problems in there rear...they look good i don't really mind :cool:

[longers]

just looked at the eibach site

eibach pro-kit will give you a 1.6" drop in the front and 1.4" in the rears
eibach sportline kit will give you a 1.9" drop in the front and 1.6" in the rears.

im using the sportline kit which gave me 2.0" drop in the front and 1.9" in the rears.

[tony1234]

just looked at the eibach site

eibach pro-kit will give you a 1.6" drop in the front and 1.4" in the rears
eibach sportline kit will give you a 1.9" drop in the front and 1.6" in the rears.

im using the sportline kit which gave me 2.0" drop in the front and 1.9" in the rears.
I've got Eibach pro on my Euro but i've also got Bilstein shocks,its a nice drop but i wouldn't go any lower.Eibachs are supposed to be suitable to put on stock shocks without shortening the life of them

[longers]

yeap thats why i went with them :thumbsup:
plan is to get some decent shocks when mine blow...won't be a while yet

are you running 17" or 18"? im running 17" hence i was just after that little bit more,
stockwise i sit much higher than you guys

[tony1234]

yeap thats why i went with them :thumbsup:
plan is to get some decent shocks when mine blow...won't be a while yet
when you need shocks get Bilsteins,they'll transform your car.:thumbsup::thumbsup:past experience with Kings is they sag a bit over time so:thumbdwn:to King springs

[longers]

yeah a mate had kings its like driving a tractor

[Ken-f]

Oh, another thing. When you guys say the stock shocks will go, would they go with like....a...BANG!! and instantly sag or something? Or would it just be slow, say...the oil leaks out etc.

[eg_08_wa]

its a slow thing, like they start leaking, the dont hold weight anymore (ie become really bouncy and "bottom out") in other words, premature wear and tear.
its not gonna go bang...lol

yeah im looking to drop its max 2.5" so im not really worried bout shocks, cuz they will be replaced when they go .

[aaronng]

Oh, another thing. When you guys say the stock shocks will go, would they go with like....a...BANG!! and instantly sag or something? Or would it just be slow, say...the oil leaks out etc.
Stock shocks don't cause sagging. They just stop damping the movement of the car, so it becomes bouncy.

[Ken-f]

Ohh ic. Thanks for clearing that up guys. ahah. Just like my old car...nice and bouncy!

[tony1234]

Ohh ic. Thanks for clearing that up guys. ahah. Just like my old car...nice and bouncy!
You'll know when your shocks go,your car will handle like a boat.lol

[bentusi123]

u can go tempe tyres for low ur car. its cost u 450. and around 2 hour for the work.
if u only want change the spring, dont drop too much. otherwise, the stock shock cant work with spring well and it may damage the stock shock.
what i did is drop 1.3 inch about 3 cm at front, 1 inch or 2 cm at back.
the spring is hard than stock one, but much better than tein SS.(thats what i feel)
if u want profermance, u better change to tein SS and it can adjust as u like.

PS: all base on personal experience and feeling

[Bigpauly2788]

Any pics? I really only want to drop mine 1.5" max. I'll scrape too much any lower and I dun wanna pay more than $500 ish. My only conern is the stock shocks blowing.

if your euro is still on stock suspension and springs it will not ever come close to scraping with a 1.5" drop all round.

[ndeuro_]

or if ur lucky u can grab a pair secondhand. my mate got one for hes 180sx of some guy in spriny. only done about 50kms. bought it for 800bux

[Ken-f]

if your euro is still on stock suspension and springs it will not ever come close to scraping with a 1.5" drop all round.

Its coz of my body kit that i'll scrap. Its as if its already 1" lower.

[defibros]

Hi people, i am a newbie. I have a set of EURO r shocks with Tanabe springs .
I have a 03 euro, will it fit? Those shocks are from an 06 Euro R from Japan

[integral90]

Hi people, i am a newbie. I have a set of EURO r shocks with Tanabe springs .
I have a 03 euro, will it fit? Those shocks are from an 06 Euro R from Japan

Should fit no problem

[defibros]

Should fit no problem

Thanks

i just check the Euro R shocks and i think they are a bit damage..

Can i use the Tanabe Springs on my stock shocks?

Will there be any issues ?

[integral90]

Thanks

i just check the Euro R shocks and i think they are a bit damage..

Can i use the Tanabe Springs on my stock shocks?

Will there be any issues ?

Damaged how? I've never seen a EuroR shock, but I assume it's the same design as the CL9 one, so the Tanabe should still fit. How big is the drop on the Tanabe spring? If it's more than 2" I wouldn't bother putting it on the stock shock, get an aftermarket one that can handle the lower spring :wave:

[defibros]

Damaged how? I've never seen a EuroR shock, but I assume it's the same design as the CL9 one, so the Tanabe should still fit. How big is the drop on the Tanabe spring? If it's more than 2" I wouldn't bother putting it on the stock shock, get an aftermarket one that can handle the lower spring :wave:

What other springs is good?

[integral90]

I'd go Tein S.Tech or Skunk2 lowered springs. But if you want cheaper you can go King Springs

[defibros]

I'd go Tein S.Tech or Skunk2 lowered springs. But if you want cheaper you can go King Springs


The springs will be fine on the standard shock i suppose?

Thanks for the info and tips

[power_of_dreams]

personally i would go with eibach.

[integral90]

The springs will be fine on the standard shock i suppose?

Thanks for the info and tips

They're fine to put on but any drop from the stock spring height is going to wear your shocks faster. The more you drop the quicker you'll kill your oem shocks. So they'll fit fine, but they won't work fine forever.

And yes! Eibach are awesome!

[Crapdaz]

eibach is awesome as some members have them already but recommended to change your shocks too otherwise your more prone to shock failure.

else if your looking for a bit more performance handling but still comfort and have a bit more money to put in and get the tein ss proven comfort almost like stock....

[MSKYO]

I did a lot of reading on the forums, consulted a number of members and other people I know before lowering my car and eventually went for the combination of Koni Yellow sport adjustable shocks and King Springs. My car is lowered 40mm at the front and 30-35mm at the back but I decided to be safe and change the shocks too.

1 month later and I have to say I am extremely happy, the ride is still comparable to the comfort of stock, the handling is much improved and the dreaded bounciness which people associate with Kings is in my opinion more hype than substance. The only time I ever feel extra bounce is at high speed (100kph+) on the freeway where there is a significant dip or change in camber of the road, which in Melbourne isn't often at all.

If anyone in Melbourne is looking for a good shop to have some suspension work carried out I would highly recommend Traction Tyres in Rowville. They did a great job on my car, were extremely reasonable on price (they price match on parts) and to top it off were genuine guys

[power_of_dreams]

how much did you pay for the koni's?
pm me if you like

[MSKYO]

^PM sent

[integral90]

Could you send one to me aswell? Thanks!

[MSKYO]

^PM sent:cool:

[giant_mongrel]

haha can you send me one as well? got kings on standard shocks...

[longers]

me three!!!!

[MSKYO]

^PMs sent!

[Crapdaz]

me 444444444444444

[MSKYO]

^PM'd

[gumbel]

me as well please..... cheers

[npcan2]

me 2?!?!?!

[tqt]

pm me too pls

[tqt]

where can i buy Eibach springs for CU2 in melbourne

thanks

[euro1603]

I recent purchased Eibach pro kit springs, for $500 aussie dollars.

Here is the seller, I haven't received the springs yet, so I'll let you guys know if they're any good. The part number is 4045.140

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350208835380&ih=022&category=33582&_trksid=p3911.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26ps%3D 6

The tire factory in melbourne can install it for $200 but seems like price is a little bit different from store to store. I will choose to deal with the store that i had previously dealt with.

I have 18inch wheels and will run on stock shocks. So will post some pics and feedback in a couple of weeks.

[Accord Basic]

does anyone heard about DTM suspension?

[New133]

Pedders springs lower the car by about 1 and a half inches. Low enough to look good, high enough to clear speed humps and gutters.