Rear Suspension Puzzle

[Dylanamus]

Which car model/s have the same REAR LCA subframe and chassis mounting points as the DC2R (or more specifically, an EF8 CRX), but with the fork style shock mount?

Plan: use fork style rear Koni shocks that have externally adjustable dampers, coupled with a flat design LCA ->
http://www.mfactoryhk.com/images/products/rearlowercontrolarms.jpg

With - fork style shock ->
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m263/muzz1987/IMG_9449.jpg

Cheers :thumbsup:

[e240]

Which car model/s have the same REAR LCA subframe and chassis mounting points as the DC2R (or more specifically, an EF8 CRX), but with the fork style shock mount?

Plan: use fork style rear Koni shocks that have externally adjustable dampers, coupled with a flat design LCA ->
With - fork style shock ->
Cheers :thumbsup:

Not sure I quite understand but DC2R = EG 92 - 95 Civic (Forks)

Hope that helps.

[Dylanamus]

I'm just refering to the rear suspension. The DC2R is the same as the EF8 in this regard and has the shock mount WITHIN the LCA, as opposed to AROUND it like the picture above.

What I want to know is which models have the rear shocks as pictured above, but are still compatible with the dc2r/ef8/9 chassis.

[e240]

DC2R = EG 92 - 95 Civic (Forks)

[CRXer]

'89-'91 Ed9 Crx

[CRXer]

Found a pic of one of mine

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/CRXer/a4ba650b.jpg

[e240]

Found a pic of one of mine
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if its the same as the DC2, then its the same as an EG as well....
In fact, EF = DC = EG, Cause I can the EF LCA in my EG for a while...LOL

The EK LCA is alot longer

[Killa From Manila]

jdm dc2r/eg6 has the lca mount inside it, whereas the audm dc/eg has the fork style

[e240]

jdm dc2r/eg6 has the lca mount inside it, whereas the audm dc/eg has the fork style

Ya,but he wants to fit the U shape bottoms so he can use any AUDM style EG LCAs...

[Dylanamus]

Well I already know that the AUDM ED9 Konis aren't adjustable, otherwise that would have been the easy choice.

So basically AUDM EG or DC2 NON TYPE R rear LCA. Pending external ajustibility from the Koni Sports..

Guess I'll call the supplier...

[Dylanamus]

DC2 94-98 REAR - 8041-1153 SPORT
DC2 94-98 FRONT- 8041-1152 SPORT

Well those are the part numbers and they ARE externally adjustable.

So now what I need to know is how using the ADUM DC2 LCAs will affect the mounting of ED9 style swaybars and anything else in the setup?

[Dylanamus]

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f304/Dylanamus/rypeRrear.jpg
Type R rear suspension


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f304/Dylanamus/nontypeRrear.jpg
NON Type R

[JasonGilholme]

Theres two types of lca/shock mounting:


Eyelet with Bolt (DC2R and EG6)

And

Fork with Bolt (DC2(non type R), EG2, EG5)

[CRXer]

ED9 lca=EG/DC2 lca but EG/DC2 is a little longer overall

use ED9 and u wont have any neg camber issues.

[Dylanamus]

So ED9 fork style LCA still has the third bolt hole for swaybark endlink?

If so, that makes it easy... ED9 rear LCA with DC2 (non R) Konis and whatever on the front.

[dc2itr]

I found the holes in the LCA's for ED, where the suspension eye is inserted were a little slimmer than the Dc2r. I was sent the ED rear LCA's by mistake and couldn't fit stock Dc2r suspension. And they don't have any swaybar holes but you can do the dodge and just use nuts.

EG/DC (non type-r) LCA's should do the job.

[czy_sol87]

quick question would i be able to use EF8(sir crx) rear LCAs on a DC teg with out there bein too much camber issues
i ask cause both are eyelet type LCAs and i've read somewhere that the EF LCA will need to be filed off a couple of mm inorder to use DC2R sussy with that LCA

[Kawasaki]

quick question would i be able to use EF8(sir crx) rear LCAs on a DC teg with out there bein too much camber issues
i ask cause both are eyelet type LCAs and i've read somewhere that the EF LCA will need to be filed off a couple of mm inorder to use DC2R sussy with that LCA

why not buy eg6/dc2r rear lca? ef8/9 is different to type r

[Paddy Honda]

Sorry for dragging up this old thread but someone please help.
I have an EG6 with the eyelet style rear LCA and I have been trying to get inner and outer bushings of it.
I think I've worked out that the EG6/DC2R Rear LCA is the same, great, can get a bushing kit??
My new issue now if that I was given a second set of eylet type Rear LCAs with the car and when I checked they were slightly different. The spare pair are slightly longer than the ones that were on the car and also the bushing on the spare set is a larger diameter bushing.
The spare set has EF9 written on them with texter. Is this correct or is the longer ones the DC2R??
Anyway, some clear direction would be good. Also, once we work out what is what, which would be best to use and why?
Thanks in advance

[Kawasaki]

Sorry for dragging up this old thread but someone please help.
I have an EG6 with the eyelet style rear LCA and I have been trying to get inner and outer bushings of it.
I think I've worked out that the EG6/DC2R Rear LCA is the same, great, can get a bushing kit??
My new issue now if that I was given a second set of eylet type Rear LCAs with the car and when I checked they were slightly different. The spare pair are slightly longer than the ones that were on the car and also the bushing on the spare set is a larger diameter bushing.
The spare set has EF9 written on them with texter. Is this correct or is the longer ones the DC2R??
Anyway, some clear direction would be good. Also, once we work out what is what, which would be best to use and why?
Thanks in advance

If i understand your question correctly. EF9 control arms won't work with DC2R/EG6 suspension due to the eyelet being wider than an EF8/9 unit, not sure about control arm length.. tape measure?

You can buy a bushing kit for the DC2R/EG6 control arm, for one mugen makes a kit. Beware if you do change them because i believe there is a sleeve around the bushing which needs to remain.

[Bludger]

can't remember your name........^^^^

but you can always grind off a little bit of the bottom bushing of the shock to get the eyelet to fit into the LCA.

[Paddy Honda]

If i understand your question correctly. EF9 control arms won't work with DC2R/EG6 suspension due to the eyelet being wider than an EF8/9 unit, not sure about control arm length.. tape measure?

You can buy a bushing kit for the DC2R/EG6 control arm, for one mugen makes a kit. Beware if you do change them because i believe there is a sleeve around the bushing which needs to remain.

No, my issue is with the length of the arms, there is a difference of about 4mm I'd say (havent checked the issue with the eyelet not fitting yet).
I'm trying to work out which are goes with the EG6, is it the longer or shroter arm. And where does the other arm belong??
Alos, say if the shorter arm was for the EG6, is there a benefit of putting the longer arm on getting additional caster? Hope this is making sense. Thanks

[Bludger]

I understand there is one long and one short, but i don't know why you have confusion with that issue.

the right ones should be on your car, why (if you did) did you mix them up..........

you said the ones off the car say ef9. your eg6 must have the eg6 ones installed. measure them both and work out which belongs to which, i would like to know too.

I have both ef8/9 and dc2r ones as i have both cars but i cbf measuring them, you do it and help me out please.

there is no benefit on running the other lca to get shorter/longer. use the right lca for your car and use camber arms to adjust camber to desired setting.

there is no castor on the rear of your model Honda, caster is only for the wheels that steer.

[Paddy Honda]

I understand there is one long and one short, but i don't know why you have confusion with that issue.

the right ones should be on your car, why (if you did) did you mix them up..........

you said the ones off the car say ef9. your eg6 must have the eg6 ones installed. measure them both and work out which belongs to which, i would like to know too.

I have both ef8/9 and dc2r ones as i have both cars but i cbf measuring them, you do it and help me out please.

there is no benefit on running the other lca to get shorter/longer. use the right lca for your car and use camber arms to adjust camber to desired setting.

there is no castor on the rear of your model Honda, caster is only for the wheels that steer.

My issue is that I was doing up the spare set so that I could just swap them over when I was ready to change the bushings.
I can just take off the EG6 LCA, change the bushings and put back on but I've no also just checked the new coilovers I've bought and the eyelet bushing is the narrower type that fits in the EF9 LCA.
I'm finally working it all out I think.
If I'm using the longer EF9 LCA, then I'm wondering with the slight extra length in the EF9 LCA, how will the extra camber effect the rear?? Sorry, I meant camber and not caster.

Anyway, I measured the 2 LCAs and they are as follows:

EF9 Rear LCA:
Total length: 398mm
Eyelet width: 42mm
Inner & Outer Bushing: 35mm

EG6/DC2R Rear LCA:
Total length: 394mm
Eyelet width: 44mm
Inner & Outer Bushing: 31mm

So, once I can get the bushings, I think I'll use the EF9 rear LCA on my EG6.
By the way, its a rally car on extra negative camber should be good

Thanks