EK Facelift Conversion.

[PAPZ]

y0,

ive used the search feature and read some other small threads floating around the interweb, though can any one else help me or pass me a link or two regarding a 98 spec EK to be facelifted to the 99 spec.

YES, im doing the facelift and have all the parts ready to go (cept rear taillights... coming soon) though i need some answers with a few things.

if you can help please send me links!!!

thankssss

[kn1ghtm4r3]

http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=59851&highlight=96-98+99-00+conversion

enjoy

[PAPZ]

nice

didnt read this one!

i want to upload my progress photos, though my stupid phone & nokia cable is being ghey!

soon ill will show and tell!

[PAPZ]

that one there, is so rough...

there is a better way to complete this. :o

[kn1ghtm4r3]

make your own write up =D and we'll rep you lol

shame u have to part out the bys front bar, that was hawt

[Q_ball]

A thread made recently about the topic,
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71927

[PAPZ]

make your own write up =D and we'll rep you lol

shame u have to part out the bys front bar, that was hawt

its ok. might get another. lol

[PAPZ]

A thread made recently about the topic,
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71927


yeh ive seen that. doesnt help that much.

i know wat parts are needed, and i already got everything.

though im just seeking how the work is done. i know how to do it though ive seen differnt styles of work and i feel its a bit rough. its just teh fabrication work to fit the front bar. everythign else is straight forward.

[scyt7e]

wooot excellent thread i need this in a couple days time too :thumbsup: let us know how u go lolz im gonna read that thread i thought it was easy and only needed one extra hole drilled.. ok mayb im totally wrong lool time to read up papz theres otherways besides cutting the bumper right?

[PAPZ]

wooot excellent thread i need this in a couple days time too :thumbsup: let us know how u go lolz im gonna read that thread i thought it was easy and only needed one extra hole drilled.. ok mayb im totally wrong lool time to read up papz theres otherways besides cutting the bumper right?

did u do the face lift?

im not cuttin my front bumper! if anything ill only be cuttin where the original front bar bolted on to. though alot neater then wat ive seen so far.

my front bumper support has already been shaved to fit my BYS bar so i dont need to re shave that.

everything is straight forward. my car is already stripped so its when i put everything to gether ill take photos and reverse the steps for people to understand how it was done.

[scyt7e]

yeah i foudn this heaps better and looks lots better that other thread the guys hood fits dodgy, those little things piss me off anyway im doing it within the week or so, matter or ordering parts heres the thread i found you probably using the similiar concept too:

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48359

:thumbsup:

[040501912]

wew.. he is getting ready for new face lift :p

[kn1ghtm4r3]

its ok. might get another. lol

yah i saw it lolol :cool:

[scyt7e]

PAPZ did you get urs done? i think if you get the front bumper support from a 99-00 also woulbe heaps easier and you can keep ur foam :thumbsup: i'll be doing mine sometime this week :D but u can go first and tell me what u did wrong ahahahhaha so i dont do the same :D grinder and dremel at the ready :p

[zco]

papz/ i haev owned 2 ek's and facelifted BOTH of them. using 96-98 radiator supports. what questions do you have requiring answers for ?

[scyt7e]

zco can it be done with no cutting? i know i will lose the foam and have to grind the edges of the support but can i not but the mounting point as in the previous url i provided??? can i just drill the new mounting points and get it to fit perfectly?

[zco]

zco can it be done with no cutting? i know i will lose the foam and have to grind the edges of the support but can i not but the mounting point as in the previous url i provided??? can i just drill the new mounting points and get it to fit perfectly?

yes. you dont have to cut the mounting tabs. BUT you have to modify your front bar. cut slits into hte front bar where the grill is.. you wont be able to see the cuts as the grill will cover it anyway. quickest and easiest way to fit your front bar.:thumbsup:
the slits you need to cut in your front bar are about this big _______ and you dont even see these cuts when the grill is on.. but thats upto you !

okay. just read that papz doesnt want to cut his front bar. well looks liek you're gonna have to order new support. 99-00 paint and weld. then pray that they fitted it straight or your fornt end is gonna look focked lol

if youdont cut your front end, and want to use the original radiator support, then you drill holes into the radiator support tabs, and you have to hacksaw the excess off so your bar can fit !

hope that helps

[PAPZ]

i havent started any cutting yet! hehe

regarding the foam! who cares! throw it in the bin! weight loss! lol

my car never had it so im not worried.

zco can u pm me ur contact number, easier to chat about it! =D

[PAPZ]

PAPZ did you get urs done? i think if you get the front bumper support from a 99-00 also woulbe heaps easier and you can keep ur foam :thumbsup: i'll be doing mine sometime this week :D but u can go first and tell me what u did wrong ahahahhaha so i dont do the same :D grinder and dremel at the ready :p

havent started it yet. still completing other things. so i will wait for ur errors. lol :cool:

[zco]

i havent started any cutting yet! hehe

regarding the foam! who cares! throw it in the bin! weight loss! lol

my car never had it so im not worried.

zco can u pm me ur contact number, easier to chat about it! =D

done ! lol. are yo ugonan sms bomb me like chi did
"? ROFL ! heard about your new fone HAHA pooor you :(

[scyt7e]

can i have BOTH of your numbers so i can call you incase i stuff it up? :p

[PAPZ]

can i have BOTH of your numbers so i can call you incase i stuff it up? :p

hahah

can i come watch u stuff up?

lol

[PAPZ]

done ! lol. are yo ugonan sms bomb me like chi did
"? ROFL ! heard about your new fone HAHA pooor you :(

f**kn chi, i couldve ran him over for doing that. i never been so angry.

my phone is laggy enough as it is and he sms bombs me!

i reckon that was the cause of my phones death!!!

[scyt7e]

hahah

can i come watch u stuff up?

lol

lol bluck im in perth but you're more than welcome to fly urself and ur car over here :thumbsup: dw papz i wont sms bomb u ahhaha my phone is dying too thanks zco for the number :p u wont regret it ahhahhaha papz when are u doing your swap?

[PAPZ]

like i said, im jsut sorting out other stuff. once im complete ill have it done.

ill prob start playing with the front bar in 2 or so weeks time.

[zco]

stop playing poker and start playing with ur EK. lol

[zco]

heres a picture mr papz. quick work of art whilst im at work on ms paint yO

http://home.iprimus.com.au/zco/yulla.jpg

cut the blue bit out !

if not then you can look at the EGK-K20 thread from barefoot in the appearance gallery. theres a picture of their radiator support with the 2 new holes

[PAPZ]

thanks again. too easy

[scyt7e]

:wave: im 3/4 done just some adjustments here and tehre but otherwise all done the front bumper coming on tomorrow using that link from jdm universe i do believe and no cutting to my front bumper lol just hacking some metal off thats all :eek: in regardless you're still going to need to drill new holes yes? :thumbsup:

[STTICH]

show us some pics when done David :thumbsup:

[mrwillz]

faclift pwns

[PAPZ]

yes show me some pics. im excited! any stuf ups u shoud let me know about hehehehe

[scyt7e]

LOL not really except the bit whre we were 3/4 way through and i forgot to bring the headlights along AND we realised we had no dremel or mini hacksaw so tomorrow its a trip to bunnings :thumbsup: to hanif hahaha 4 hours with no lunch going straight at it we couldnt resist once the truck delivering the stuff from honda came :p anyway papz just make sure lolo u got a grinder and dremel or a nice power saw makes life easier :eek: AND remember to bring everything unless ur doing it at ur house haha we just dumped me car at mech shop and did it ourselves :D pictures nothing spectacular really lol its like zco when he did his conversion :wave:

[040501912]

looking good from wat i read hahahah :p dont forget to drop by my house to show off ur car aye :p

[Zdster]

Just in case some of you hadnt seen it, I thought I would post this. A good write up if you want to cut:
http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48359

[scyt7e]

i put that link up on the first page i think but thanks Zdster :thumbsup: and no theres not much to show off... its like every other 99-00 ek now :(

[PAPZ]

show some b4 and after shots to see how the body lines turned out =]

[STTICH]

i wanna see pics ! :)

[scyt7e]

the goodies from honda :thumbsup:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7394/stufffromhondaath6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

front off record time of 5 minutes :p

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8854/frontoffpd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

side skirts removal for fender.... hate all those parts with clips makes u paranoid
thats my slave taking off the sideskirts hahahahahhaha :p

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9813/siudeskirtsoffbg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hanif grinding the edges dont F***around with no safety glasses :thumbsup:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7489/grindingko6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

FINISHED product. i missed a lot of other bits we got caught up i mean no lunch no dinner we jsut wanted to get out of there...

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7078/frontfinishedpu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

my d series is for sale!!! some1 buy it!!! my black front just added 20 kw :D

i got an ugly ass now..... need lip and my pea shooter > all of you big holes

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8329/rearuu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


quality of pics is crap i only got my phone will take some with digi cam later i guess everything lines up perfect i got to adjust the fender a bit and hood but that can wait.... its going to come off to be repainted anyway.... and i didnt cut the bumper papz just mod the mounting point :thumbsup:

used nut and bolt on the edges, gives you ZERO gap from fender to bumper overall :thumbsup: experience haha we stole mechanics workshop and just did it ourselves :thumbsup: also lol i forgot to put the bracket for the front plate and i really cant be bothered to put it in now but remember papz... get that bracket in before you screw the bumper in!!! i'll post up before pictures too and compare later

[zco]

haha sick.. now that looks like my car lol

[PAPZ]

hahah good work!

i will post the in between photos because i forgot to take photos of the car before i stripped it! lol

[HanifB16A2]

Yeah, david u owe me more than 1 meal for that man :D

Here's a pic of this gangster + pic of the fitment.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/Niff85/DSC00911.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/Niff85/DSC00908.jpg

[scyt7e]

bahaha worst picture ever :( damn i should find a way to edit that... :thumbdwn:

[blu3illusion84]

^ panda ftw!!
:p

please do your car like this

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/blu3illusion84/DSC_2457-01copy.jpg

[scyt7e]

haha yeah i have that picture, mayb similarities but some stuff different :D that camera that took that must be pretty good or some good skills there :eek:

[PAPZ]

haha looks awesome! well done!

i still havent started.

[STTICH]

coming up really nicely ! :thumbsup:

[040501912]

OH noo he is a copy cat !!! look at the RIMS !!!!!! OMG !! lol ..

btw nice job :) 2 thumbs up + 2 toes up for u !! love it

[PAPZ]

tomorrow all should be fitted. cross my fingers nothing goes wrong =]

[HRD2BQT]

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/Niff85/DSC00911.jpg



great job.......s the other EK on d background getting facelfit conversion done too?? hahahahahhahaa

[mrwillz]

safe to say that
facelift pwns everyother ek that is not facelifted in the world

[kn1ghtm4r3]

nah prefacelift ftmfw

[kraiye]

other than the bumper i cant tell the diff!!
lol

[scyt7e]

haha theres quite a fair bit of differences :D after many nights pouring over pictures i decided that the facelift is lol somewhat more sleek but yeah anyway each to their own and no that ek in the background had an accident haha having said that PAPZ i hope you forgot to mount the plate too hahahhaha cable tie is your friend :D. post pics papz!!

[PAPZ]

post pics later. didnt take many photos. its not finished yet. just trial fitted the guards and headlights.

front bar mods havent been done yet. my car looks like a panda like urs. haha.

oh well

[HanifB16A2]

other than the bumper i cant tell the diff!!
lol

Differences from pre-facelift Ek1/4:
- different shaped headlights (hence different fenders and bonnet)
- wider grill
- no mouldings on the front and rear bumper
- front bumper has 'gills' that can accommodate flush mounted foglights

[Mugen_B16B]

had to bring this back from the dead but could anyone show me which part of the bumper im meant to cut, zco's ms drawing is confusing me lol im in the process of doin this but just to clarify that i need to only cut the bumper not the support, and only grind down the support a lil bit

[scyt7e]

when you try to fit the 99-00 bumper the side bits where the top mount for the bumper is will not clear the support on the car... which means you have to cut a slit for the bumper to pass through that point, when you hold the bumper up to the car you'll see what im talking about

i cut the support as opposed to the bumper lol no going back :p but yeah fit the other panels then do the bumper you'll see straight away what the problem is :thumbsup:

if you want send me a picture of the bumper and i'll use some of my paint skills to show u what i mean :thumbsup: need picture of the top part of the bumper near the mounting point

[PAPZ]

my hdd is blown, i will get it fixed this weekend and repost a diy style thread for you guys.

its real easy to do. my car is complete and goddamn makes me hornay! =D

btw, my plate is mounted, no more cable ties.. hehehe (was waited to buy some allen key bolts)

[Mugen_B16B]

when u say mounted with no cable ties hmmm meaning .... dont tell me what i think it is! is it? PICS OR BANN!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

[newbie]

nice one guys. this thread is very helpful.

[Mugen_B16B]

got this conversion out of the way and all good, thanks to papz sy7e for the help, hope g-stick will post up the pics soon hahaha

[EURON8]

wtf u guys going through all the hassle just to get it facelifted...
the preface looks a lot more aggressive if done rite...

[Mugen_B16B]

just personal preference i guess, everyone has there own opinions but i do admit preface does look for aggresive, facelift is just a more sharper look

[xtercii]

can't you guys just buy a face lifted version to start with?

[newbie]

well yes and no.. only gli and cxi come in facelift in hatchs (which i like the most)

if you wanted or own an ek4 you cant get it facelift. since 99-00 only the em1 came with a b16a in aus. which is coupe

or if you have owned your car for a while and done other mods.. and now you decide you wanna facelift look.

i personally like the lines on the facelift more + headlights. and when side by side i like facelift. but some other like prefacelift much better.. just personal choice.

[Mugen_B16B]

plus its great fun to do lol, grinding and cutting shit

[mugenpower168]

hey guys,

this link: http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=59851&highlight=96-98+99-00+conversion

says you gota hit back the edges on the front reinforcement bar, did any of yous do this? is it really necessary?

[EK1.6LCIV]

I'm into this, I've watched it transform before 96-98/99-00, the secret is to use only oem parts in your install and steer clear of aftermarket parts, the cutting is minialistic requiring at most 20mins with a hand dremel, lol. Then you paint it up where you just cut is a very important and often unmentioned tip. I have a thread as well to add to the list with more pics, will add when my pc is done...

[PAPZ]

i used all oem parts. if i was to pull everything off you would think my car was oem facelift.

spend the extra time filling back anything you cut. make sure when you slice the front bar bracket that both sides are equal and clean up the holes you drill.

and for EURON8 & xtercii. I prefer the facelift model over the older shape. looks more modern and has a nicer cleaner look. i dont think civics have an aggressive appeal. its a civic for god sake! And relating to purchasing a 00 model. I wish i could have if i found a genuine type r in that shape =P

[Amanda]

When mine was converted from a 99-00 to a 96-98, I dont think we had to cut or modify anything. Does cutting things only apply when you change from 96-98 to a 99-00?

[mrwillz]

wtf u guys going through all the hassle just to get it facelifted...
the preface looks a lot more aggressive if done rite...

facelift>prefacelift

[zco]

When mine was converted from a 99-00 to a 96-98, I dont think we had to cut or modify anything. Does cutting things only apply when you change from 96-98 to a 99-00?
yes.. 99-00 have smaller mounting tabs for the bar and the reinforcemnt bar is shorter length

[steve88]

i prefer preface lift with the ej8 front and 99-00 rear bar. the 99-00 headlights look too gay

[kraiye]

^^
agreed on the headlights, facelifted looks kinda tamer... cant decide on the bumper though ej8 or facelift?? hmm

[zco]

this is to show you guys why oem is soo important
its just crap.. on crap, with more crap on top.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/DuffBeerMan/012.jpg

[scyt7e]

thats true, the only thing you could probably get away with replica is the fenders, if you know how to adjust it right its impossible to tell

the rest you should get oem especially the bumper that makes a huge difference

anyway 99-00 is better from many angles esp the side on angles, the 96-98 is way chunky, doesnt look streamlined at all :p the 99-00 headlights do a lot more i reckon for the car but each to their own haha

colour coded strips is also ftl - makes the car look even worse

[koitsuu]

Have anyone tried to use the parts from ozeparts to do the conversion? So hard to find 2nd hand oem parts :(

[mugenpower168]

i'm interested to know too...

...try it koitsuu and let me know if its good.. or bad.. lol

[vinnY]

i got a pre-facelift coupe front bar from ozeparts before, fits good with some minor stuff
will find an oem bar one day, too bad no one wants to give it up

[koitsuu]

i'm interested to know too...

...try it koitsuu and let me know if its good.. or bad.. lol

Ordered both fenders, front bar and bonnet from ozeparts.com will let you guys know how it goes when it arrives. Just after a set of headlights to finish the job now hehe.

[Mugen_B16B]

oem all the way, aftermarket parts just piss you off, then u kick it then its gg lol

[bummy]

free bump!

just wanted to ask whether the 99 rear bar needs any modifications for fitment on a 97 hatch?

[vinnY]

no straight fit with the rear bar

[Raztaz]

free bump!

just wanted to ask whether the 99 rear bar needs any modifications for fitment on a 97 hatch?

as long as its hatch to hatch its all good. Only diff with the rear bar was the side mouldings

[drifter]

keep them coming guy..........i was thinking about convert my ek4 to a 99 front.....
USDM..........
keep coming...........pic will be much easy

[mrwillz]

facelift ftmfw forevahz