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redliner
20-07-2004, 11:38 AM
How can you actually tell that you shift quickly?
For me:
1. Shifting to next gear you stay above 5000RPM or in Vtec range
2. Your tyres sqeeks and a sudden shock feeling from the car when the gear clicks in.


Any other ideas?

SPEEDCORE
20-07-2004, 12:49 PM
1. The shifting and staying above 5k rpm or even in still in vtec is not really an indication..... you can shift quite conservatively and still land above the vtec engagment point.

2. Tyres squeek (chirp) and a big shock also does not indicate a "quick shift".

Just means you where a brutal ****er on your g'box by steping off the clutch like an animal... and probably giving a boot full of gas to just make it that much more aggressive......

You need anger management. :lol:

poid
20-07-2004, 01:15 PM
man those brutal shifts are the ones i used to do when i first started driving :D

i used to think those ones were quick, till i got better at it

redliner
20-07-2004, 01:27 PM
any suggestions?
all i do is clutch, shift, gas and doin it in a fraction of a sec.. i dunno wat else is thre to do really, maybe doin it quicker and quicker as you learn i guess.

poid
20-07-2004, 01:42 PM
yeh thats basically it, you just get better at it

Psyklops
20-07-2004, 01:58 PM
Trying not to sound like a smartarse know-it-all :oops: :roll: , basically it is muscle memory and inately knowing you motor and gearbox...co-ordinating the movements of you feet and arms so they work together, not against each other. It's like when you go to shift up and not enough revs are on board so it drags when the clutch is released.....practicing how many revs are needed for a frictionless (no jerk when clutch released) downchange at any given speed and any given gear....I double declutch and heel to toe into 1st gear sometimes (at low speed...no more than say 40 km/h when going into a REALLy tight hairpin...muck around a bit and you find what works and what doesn't...just don't select a gear too low or you'll damage something :)

redliner
20-07-2004, 02:57 PM
gosh so much to learn... explaining in text is hard to understand and imagine.. would be easier to see it, there has to some vid out there that teaches you this... i'll check on kazaa and i can see alot of fuel be gonna used up... damn fuel prices, give some mercy to pplz just wanna practice.

fried
20-07-2004, 07:25 PM
u can downshift into 1st gear?

i cant get into first from a higher gear, unless im going like less than 1km/h or something. this is in dc2.

Xenon
20-07-2004, 07:40 PM
u can downshift into 1st gear?

i cant get into first from a higher gear, unless im going like less than 1km/h or something. this is in dc2.


You can downshift into first while the car is moving, but u relli gotta shove the gearstick into place!!

Psyklops
20-07-2004, 07:42 PM
you can downshift into first if you have enough revs to match the engine flywheel and gearbox speeds....once matched in neutral...and you are going slow enough...you can get into 1st smoothly with the car in motion and without trashing your syncros. ...if you can double declutch you can do it...try it at 20 or 30 kph on deceleration (slowing down)

Psyklops
20-07-2004, 07:47 PM
if your revs are matched the g/stick pops into place...no force required....if you need to shove it your synchros are on their way out, or you need to practice

wynode
20-07-2004, 07:47 PM
I couldn't get into first when I started driving unless I was dead still.

But after MUCH rev match practising, I can get into first at around 15-20 km/h. You HAVE to match revs properly or it won't engage and you'll ruin your box. Also never force it in.....if you've rev matched properly, it will slot in.

You can do it eric......just gotta practise ;)

PS: No I don't drop into 1st like that often.

wynode
20-07-2004, 07:48 PM
BTW unless you have a [acronym:fef7e00661="Limited Slip Differential"]LSD[/acronym:fef7e00661], good luck getting traction with your wheels turned under [acronym:fef7e00661="Wide Open Throttle"]WOT[/acronym:fef7e00661] at anything above 10km/s ;)

Psyklops
20-07-2004, 07:52 PM
yep ....wouldn't mind one of those ...doing this is of course it is also just GREAT for your [acronym:c0ee8f0254="Constant Velocity"]CV[/acronym:c0ee8f0254] joints!! :roll:

pornstar
20-07-2004, 07:58 PM
lol jim

Psyklops
20-07-2004, 07:59 PM
hehe..been wondering when you'd pop into this thread!