My Type R...can u help please

[code-87]

hey guys n gals
just recently bought myself a DC2 Type R
and i love the car.great to drive.bit more impractical as a daily but im getting use to it.
ive owned commodores and this car is not only faster then my commodores(thanx to power to weight) but it's so much better on juice
it's a 2000 model, white, red recaros,carbon fibre bonnet and other mods
the car's history is that a rather rich man bought it new, shoved some big name performance parts into it,no took it to the track.
the owner was overseas and i bought it off his friend(thats how he arranged it),the problem i have is that the owner took some parts out before he sold
what parts are left i don't know
i believe it has a spoon lightweight flywheel, ive read some articles on the forum bout how to tell if u have a lightened flywheel, it revs up quick but the revs don't die quick.so im in two minds
i believe it's had a full exhaust n extractors but i kno there not there now
it has a 2nd gearbox in it i found out, i believe it myt have it's final drive lowered...can someone help me
at 100K's it revs at 3550rpm is dat to high???
a more mechincal minded friend believes my car has an aftermarket cam
and also shortened A arms, because i have a dikload of camber that can't seemed to be corrected.
so all in all guys n gals i was wondering can u give me some information or advice as to what to look for to tell which mods i may or maynot hav
is it common for the motor to be tappety?like a loud ticking sound?it's a healthy sound

[bungsai]

yes to the noise, though best to take it to a mechanic.

yes to 100kms at 3.5krpm

probably no lightweight flywheel

best to take it to a mechanic, sounds like something is bent if you have permamnent camber.

congrats on the car.

[code-87]

cheers m8
well gud to know bout the revving at 100
also forgot to mention
the most ive ever got out of a tank pussy footing around is 380k's
is that low?
ive talk to some other owners n they recon they get 400-450 when hitting vtec a bit
i usually get 360 but i myt need a tune

[blk_shadow]

Tappity Sound?
Looks Like Timing Is A Bit Out

[code-87]

another m8 recons there is a puff of white smoke coming out of my exhaust
im getting a compression test soon when i do engine mounts(another reason for the cheaper price) what else could this be?
the car seems fine, it has some problems but it seems healthy

[bungsai]

is it white?

is it just a puff?

[code-87]

apparently a white puff
not much and when i get up it when it's round 4000 rom close to VTEC id say
gunned nit off the line, he was behind me n he said he saw a puff of white smoke
the car has alot of carbon on the back formt he exhaust, it's got an aftermarket muffle on the bak.
i thought for a wile the heads might have been going or sumfin due to the carbon, and then this
but other than that the car runs well.the motor doesn't sound sick at all

[VTECACCORD]

Hmm I think I know which car your talking about, if Im correct its missing the rear spoiler.

This car by the looks of it had a very hard life. I suggest getting a compression and leak down test done. It may need a rebuild if your burning oil or coolant.

May also want to get every inch of the car checked out, from the pics I saw of that car there was a lot of shit wrong with it.

[bungsai]

Hmm I think I know which car your talking about, if Im correct its missing the rear spoiler.

This car by the looks of it had a very hard life. I suggest getting a compression and leak down test done. It may need a rebuild if your burning oil or coolant.

May also want to get every inch of the car checked out, from the pics I saw of that car there was a lot of shit wrong with it.

worst freaking news evar after buying a new car.

[aaronng]

Tappity Sound?
Looks Like Timing Is A Bit Out

No, it need a valve clearance check and adjustment.

[code-87]

VTECACCORD
yes and no.lol
it didn't have a spoiler in some pics but did in the other.when i bought the car it did.
the for sale pics did have a spoiler.the guy sent me others and thats when it had none
took the spoiler off when i got home
it has holes in the boot frfom other wings.like 6 extra holes, guy put 3 other wings on in it's life
the guy i brought it from lives in sydney
slight crack in front bar, say it's the one ur thinking of
the gearbox is very notchy but ive been told thats common

my m8s a mechanic and is going to do the work for me.he isn't a honda specialist so he's guna do the basic things to save me money
such as engine mounts

n bungsai summed it up,it's freaking me out but ive had the car for a wile now n there's a few niggling problems but it does seem healthy

the cars in a good home now i love it
sorry bout all the questions guys but u's know more than me and i can use any help

when i get a clutch done(doesn't need one yet) i wanna get the box checked out, just not guna pay for that now as it costs a bit just to get them to check things

coupla weird things that have happened lately are
1. put it in first, start driving justas i get to bout 20k's the car starts to slow like ive taken my foot off the accelator(but i haven't) so i put my foot down harder and the car jolts up and the same fing again.so i stop put it in neutral then back to 1st and it's fine
2. also driving along slowing down and put the clutch in at low speeds(say pulling up at traffic lights) and the revs stay at say 1500 for a few seconds(wile the clutch is in) like it isn't registering or sumfin.then the revs die

[aaronng]

Get all the fluids changed, including the MTF. Check your clutch master cylinder for leaks. What you can do is bleed the clutch line first and see if it fixes your weird acceleration/clutch-in problems.

[code-87]

ok
was guna change the MTF in the next coupla thou
my m8s helping me do a service on it, just the basic stuff but hopefully just keep it running fine
thanx again guys really appreciating all the advice/info

[aaronng]

ok
was guna change the MTF in the next coupla thou
my m8s helping me do a service on it, just the basic stuff but hopefully just keep it running fine
thanx again guys really appreciating all the advice/info

I'd change engine oil and MTF ASAP.

[code-87]

the muffler on my car isn't big, not as big as some of the cannons
so any reason for so much carbon at the back of the car?is it a bad thing?

[VTECACCORD]

try cleaning thr throttle body as well

[aaronng]

the muffler on my car isn't big, not as big as some of the cannons
so any reason for so much carbon at the back of the car?is it a bad thing?
It's black because the engine runs rich at high RPM and full throttle.

[code-87]

from my limited experience isn't running rich a good thing as such as opposed to running lean?
it's a safety thing correct?so not to detonate or ping?
is it dangerous for my car at all?
anyfing to do with the white puff of smoke?
thanx again guys appreciate it

[INTEG]

First thing i would do would get it to a honda expert or honda dealership check for fault codes and full compression test and leak down test that will tell you if your engine is still healthy. BTW how many kms have your car done? I recon your car had a hard life and the owner knows it and got rid of it. UNLUCKY

[code-87]

92,000
the 2nd gearbox was put in a year ago
id say it's had a hard life
it was a rich man's toy
track car is what is was used for
my m8 can do the compression n leak down test

[code-87]

there was another type r that i was looking at, it had a much harder life
been in the floods, mechanical problems galore
the gearbox was that stuffed i cudn't change gears
owww n it had 4 different colour panels
the tidier type r's where just in my range but i saved a bit of money and i love the white ones.
also the interior trim is nicer than than the couple of tidier examples i looked at
so it's a bit disappointing with the problems but i don't fink im to unlucky

[m0nty ITR]

Don't be totally discouraged by the bad news. My car has had front and rear repairs due to a nose to tail incident about 2 years ago. It's hard to find a Type R that hasn't been bent. It's also a repairable write off due to the seats being stolen 3 years ago.

A few people told me to stay away from the car, but both smash repairer friends and mechanic friends assured me the car was in great order despite it's past. The haters pointed out poor resale on such cars but last time I checked heavily modified track cars hardly fetched a high price on carsales.com.au anyway. I've learnt that you can't take it with you and you might as well enjoy life. On my DC5 for example, things that needed attention have been replaced with better aftermarket items and in just a few weeks time the car will be track ready. I love my car and the way it's evolving. Nothing comes close to rush you experience when a Honda hits high RPM.

Just enjoy the fact that you've got yourself a Honda Type R and don't get too bummed out. All cars cost you money, you just need to be smart about how you spend those hard earned ones.

[code-87]

Don't be totally discouraged by the bad news. My car has had front and rear repairs due to a nose to tail incident about 2 years ago. It's hard to find a Type R that hasn't been bent. It's also a repairable write off due to the seats being stolen 3 years ago.

A few people told me to stay away from the car, but both smash repairer friends and mechanic friends assured me the car was in great order despite it's past. The haters pointed out poor resale on such cars but last time I checked heavily modified track cars hardly fetched a high price on carsales.com.au anyway. I've learnt that you can't take it with you and you might as well enjoy life. On my DC5 for example, things that needed attention have been replaced with better aftermarket items and in just a few weeks time the car will be track ready. I love my car and the way it's evolving. Nothing comes close to rush you experience when a Honda hits high RPM.

Just enjoy the fact that you've got yourself a Honda Type R and don't get too bummed out. All cars cost you money, you just need to be smart about how you spend those hard earned ones.

thanx very much for a thoughtful comment, has helped cheered me up a bit
got the cheaper car so i have the bit of money to spend on anything
im looking forward to building up a great car
so happy with the type r and ur not half wrong bout the better aftermarket parts
engine mounts...genuine honda $720 for the 5
spoon $600 for all 5

so says itself
and with my m8 helping me out im very happy
only costs me a carton(which i help drink)
just want a bit of guidance as my m8 is not a honda expert
already ive been given some great pointers such as compression and leak test etc so hopefully it will point me in the right direction
im hopefully spending my money right, lost to much money before
thanx again montyitr
im a member of a coupla forums and my stay here has been very pleasant and informative
thanx

[Boban]

I've seen a few cars puff white smoke when they hit vtec (including mine). I personally don't think it's anything major, i haven't had any problems with it. Just make sure i change the fluids regularly. As for the tapping noise, could it be your tappets. Get your mate to check them, simple to do, there's even a DIY here on OH. Black smoke, as aaron said (i think it was him) running rich, my civic is the same, i didn't think it was running rich but my blackened muffler and rear bar proved me wrong. Congrats on the purchase man, threat her right and she'll serve you for a good while. Hondas are tough

[code-87]

bout the only car i have treated right and that ain't guna stop any time soon
i'll get my m8 to check that
running rich is much tbetter to running lean
i kno wat u mean bout rearbar being black.lol
myt not wash it for a week and tell everyone the cars black.lol
tanx again it's my first honda
had some quick commies but when i got smoked by a near stock VTIR i suddenly woke up to the power of VTEC

[jords]

It will be fine, just get a good mechanic to look at it first, my CW DC2R also has black crap over the rear bar, its normal as it runs rich in v tec and full throttle.

I remember your car in the for sale section.....just curious, what did you pay for it?

[code-87]

17.500
some myt think that is to much
but my luck is when i buy a car, a week later a better deal comes up
my problem was the insurance
i was looking at 4
yellow one flood damaged, different colour panels etc...didn't even think twice
another white one with nice rims...drove it but the guy wudn't come to the party...the insurance wud not insure this one for what i wud pay due to k's
black one...had buckled rim, dint and lots of k's...didn't have a look in person as it had a sunroof
and my one that i brought got a bit off but due to the k's it is insured for more than i payed which is gud

gotta a bit of money left to...which is good
the car is a bit ruff but ni wanna replace a lot of things anyway
just a bit annoyed it didn't have as many performance parts as i thought
but not to worry

guna do it my way

[code-87]

some of the problems r niggling things nothing major
and being a honda, ive never had one so certain sounds worry me as im not sure if it's ryt or not
i drive my cars a little bit hard but im taking care of this one

[code-87]

how do i kno the gearbox that is in the car now is a type r box???

[m0nty ITR]

how do i kno the gearbox that is in the car now is a type r box???

I think it may have a different final drive to the VTIR and GSI so I guess you could check your RPMs in 5th gear @ 100km/h and post it here for guys to give you the nod.

Are there any different stamps on a Type R box?

[code-87]

5th gear at 100 is 3550 and i kno that is correct revving for that speed as someone answered earlier but if the gsi n vtir has the same final drive as the type r it dusn't help
the only markings ont he box is a date when the box was put in, thats how we knew
got it up on a hoist at me m8s work
the date is a year ago so it wasn't done minutes before selling it so that is something in my favour

[code-87]

have had a problem with the car since i got it
driving in say 4th, then wanna pick up speed if i change down quickly like almost snapping donw a gear the car jerks n theres a big bang
all in all thought it was the engine mounts, replaced the engine mounts today which were shot
on the way home tried it and the problemns still there.
talked to my mechanic m8 and where starting to think it may b in the gearbox(which if i mentioned early is a 2nd box n not even sure if it's a type r box)

so what could it be in the box?my m8 will be checking everything out but for my piece of mind i would like to get some ideas in my head as to what it would be etc etc

and also had the car up on the hoist, spun the wheels and someone said that maybe there is something wrong with the lsd as spun the wheel and cud spin the otherone the other way
so is this possible?i know this person was only speaking from there experience with rwd.

bit worried that mayb the box n diff have been replaced with inferior components.
any info would be great

[code-87]

can't book my car into a gearbox place until next week.any advice suggestions?

[m0nty ITR]

can't book my car into a gearbox place until next week.any advice suggestions?

Don't drive it until then. If you have to, take it easy. What is happening to it at the moment. Is anything playing up or do you just want to identify the gearbox type?

By the way, why are you snapping down a gear hard? I've never had to do that on the road and if you are gonna do it, learn how to throttle match. You unnecessarily load your drivetrain too much by changing down at high revs.

[kyle]

spun the wheels and someone said that maybe there is something wrong with the lsd as spun the wheel and cud spin the otherone the other way


If you spin one wheel one direction and the oppisite one turns the other way, then you have a no LSD. Sorry Mate.

[code-87]

Don't drive it until then. If you have to, take it easy. What is happening to it at the moment. Is anything playing up or do you just want to identify the gearbox type?

By the way, why are you snapping down a gear hard? I've never had to do that on the road and if you are gonna do it, learn how to throttle match. You unnecessarily load your drivetrain too much by changing down at high revs.

what i was doing was changing down but releasing the clutch quickly n the car jerks n there is a bang

i wud also like to identify if the box is a genuine type r box

[wp89]

what i was doing was changing down but releasing the clutch quickly n the car jerks n there is a bang

i wud also like to identify if the box is a genuine type r box

this happen all the time? sure your not releasing the clutch TOO early?

[code-87]

this happen all the time? sure your not releasing the clutch TOO early?

yea when the cars above 4000k it dus do it when dropping back
i know i probably shudn't b doing this but one day i did n the bang happened so i want it fixed
i dont do it daily or anyfin but just kno the problems there
im not releasing the clutch to early but when i do it slowly theres no real problem
also sometimes when i upshift at higher revs say in a drag situation theres a small knock sometimes, im finking the problems related
usually downshifting from 4th to 3rd or upshifting from 3rd to 4th

[code-87]

ok guys i got the car looked at and apparently there is nothing wrong with the gearbox
i was told that there is alot of movement in the engine n that its the engine hitting
ive changed the mounts but there is to much movement in the rubber
does this sound right???
is it worth changing to the high strength mounts that don't aloow movemnt?i hear they create more vibrations, how much moer vibrations?unbareable in a street car?
any advice would b appreciated

[code-87]

took my car for a drive tonight and realised that going over slight bumps in the road n little ditches brings upon the same noise as when changing down gears but not as loud
all in all i dont think it is a gearbox problem anymore.
would the engine move this much going over a bump?

[est1989]

could it possibly be ur shocks rather than in ur engine bay? seeing as u hear a noise when ur running over bumps and ditches

[destrukshn]

yeah could be your engine mounts.

[blahZ]

mayb your bushes are gone

[code-87]

i have a bad strut thats getting fixed
but the noise that i hear over bumps is the same as the one when i drop back a gear
it comes form behind the dash, the engine
i did replaced the mounts n the problem wasnt as bad but the engine shouldnt move that much
the gearbox guy said it wasnt the box
im thinking bout the hi strength engine mounts but they create alot of vibrations
has anyone done them?
is it worth it in an everyday driver???