Rims scrapping Brakes!

[1kmodem]

I got a set of 15" rims for my gf's jazz, I put them on and drove about 30cm to hear a scratching noise, to find out that the rims were scrapping the brakes... left a huge scratch on the rims (inside area) . So what can i do?? since spacers are illegal? or are spacers my best friend?

[hinezz]

those rims are the wrong offset
yes having spacers is illegal

[1kmodem]

wrong offset? meaning??

[hinezz]

wrong offset? meaning??
http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp?type=wheels#offset

that shud help u understand what offset means.

[STTICH]

pretty common issue for a Jazz.

offset is one thing and its important. the wheel design is another issue.

for example i've fitted 2 different rims wth the same specs. 15" +38, one fit and the other scrape.

nothing much u can do if u've already purchased the rims. u can either sell it off and buy another or spacer it (not highly recommended but its an option).

[Zdster]

Wrong offset - change your rims.

Re: offset - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41413

[Limbo]

Could always grind 1-2mm from the top of the caliper. I had to do this when i upgraded to some larger discs & calipers. I'm assuming it is nominal amounts as you've got the wheels on.

[noodleman27]

shave caliper or spacer or change rims, no other option

[kyle]

could just drive it around until it wears enough away that it doesnt scrape hahahahaha.

[040501912]

^^^ he is nuts lol..

well seeing ur baby in pain.. coz it scrapes.. and u can hear it .. kinda make the owner sad :p

[krogoth]

could just drive it around until it wears enough away that it doesnt scrape hahahahaha.

lmao

nice and original

[magii]

definitely change the rims, shaving the caliper or using spacers is a bad idea
why compromise safety for better looks..

[Zdster]

could just drive it around until it wears enough away that it doesnt scrape hahahahaha.

I know you are only joking, but just in case someone reads this and thinks this is a good idea - it is not! :)

[08ESE]

rims might NOT be the wrong offset.

i have had 3 sets of rims on mine, all the same offset, and 2 sets hit the calipers and one never.

the jazz has a strange thin edge on the caliper which hits the X FACTOR ( wheel jargon ) in the back of the rim.

this is the bit where the face of the rim that bolts against the hub, meets the spokes etc, if the angle of this bit is too big, it will hit the caliper.

some small washers between the rim and the hub ( over the wheel studs ) solved the problem, without going too thick with spacers.

See here

http://www.performancewheels.com.au/technical.asp

[Limbo]

really its better to take a few mm off the casting of the caliper. It will not affect the caliper in any way. I've done this before and it works perfect.

Using spacers or washers your compromising the tension of how the wheels sit. DOn't forget you've got close to a ton riding on your wheels (and your life). If you hit a pothole and the spacer/washer breaks, then your wheels will be unbalances and could cause crashing. You life your risk but i wouldn't do it.

[hinezz]

get the rite offset wheel.
peace of mind.
:thumbsup:

[jayesse]

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN OFFSET PROBLEM!

Many wheels don't fit the Jazz and it has nothing to do with the offset.

O8ESE is spot on!

:thumbsup:

[1kmodem]

There's 3mm spacers.... i think that would be safer then washers?? anyway how would hitting a pothole snap/break a washer/spacer???

[hinezz]

to make things easier, y dont u post up pics of the wheel?
i guess ur nxt best friend is spacers 2mm or 3mm.
or angle grinder!

[magii]

There's 3mm spacers.... i think that would be safer then washers?? anyway how would hitting a pothole snap/break a washer/spacer???

not the washer/spacer, but the hub itself, as it is under more strain

[Mooro]

Don't use washers....that is dodgey!

In my opinion correctly installed spacers are not too bad. By correctly installed I mean using longer wheel studs to suit and using a hubcentric ring to locate the wheel on the hub. The problem with spacers, is if they are not hubcentric, the wheel studs are loaded in shear which they are not designed for but I think they safety issue is overstated somewhat and if installed correctly you should not have a problem.

Be aware that spacers are illegal though and if caught you will get defected.

THe best option is obviously to get wheels with the appropriate offset and spoke design to clear the brake caliper. I would also be hestant to start machining metal off the caliper..whilst it maybe OK in some cases you are treading a fine line.