Safe To Drive Untuned Turbo Honda?

[TEGZOTIC]

Hey guys im building a dc2 integra turbo. just wondering if its safe to instal the turbo and run on the stock ecu\tune (at low boost).say for a month or so. what can go wrong?(at low boost, driving normal)

[Q_ball]

I drove mine untuned from the workshop after install to the tuners without issues.
I wouldnt leave it like that and drive it around for a month tho.
I wouldnt use the stock management system either...
Stock ECU is for a stock application - simple.
Get an aftermarket one.

edit: When i drove mine untuned, i did have an aftermarket management system installed.

[gReY-oNe]

i would of thought it wouldnt be driveable if your goin to upgrade injectors and fuel pump?

id rather play it safe and get it towed around

[[ricer]]

u can run aftermarket fuel pump

after market injectors will flood the motor

just get the tuner to install the injectors and ecu when ur ready

if u got an internal gate turbo just disconnect the atuator

[kerim]

im driving mine untuned at the moment, had the kit on for just over a week now, no pgrade to fuel manegemnt, it does cut out alot though, producing 6psi atm

[tekung89]

yeh im turboing my eg4 and im also wondering if its ok to drive on an untuned basemap, bare in mind the setup will be properly done with aftermarket ecu, fuel pump, injectors etc. wat are the difference between a tuned and untuned s100. less milage for untuned? more chance towards detonation if not tuned? damage engine if you thrash it?
dyno dave is sure hard to get ahold of :P

[defect]

its not worth turboing if your not going to tune it
why not just get the work done and tune it at the same time.

[riceball]

you can drive it. Just dont hit boost.

[LVNIT]

You people are crazy.

Why would you spend all that money on a setup and not get it to a tuner right away? I cant see the point in doing it, not to mention the amount of money it could cost you if you were to damage the engine.

IF you must drive it on the stock management, do not install the injectors and keep it out of boost and in vacuum.

[fatboyz39]

you can drive it. Just dont hit boost.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Aza]

dont do it half assed. park it till u can afford to finish it

[DynoDave]

dont do it half assed. park it till u can afford to finish it
Its great to see someone like this giving the correct advice,good stuff Aza you having been listening to us :D
Regards Dyno Dave

[TEGZOTIC]

no 1 said the ecu wont be instaled, just not at the same time as the turbo, basicaly i dont have time to install everything at 1 shot, prefer to do it in sections. Is there any way to set the boost to 0psi? and i cbf getting a tow truck to drive the car from work shop to other places, id rather drive it if its not going to damage anything. like i said im not going to Rev the car high or boost.

"[ricer]if u got an internal gate turbo just disconnect the atuator" ?????

[kerim]

You people are crazy.

Why would you spend all that money on a setup and not get it to a tuner right away? I cant see the point in doing it, not to mention the amount of money it could cost you if you were to damage the engine.

IF you must drive it on the stock management, do not install the injectors and keep it out of boost and in vacuum.

would it be ok with injectors if i have a piggyback, unichip, but untuned?
would i be able to boost or still a no no

[Aza]

its not a question of if it will work or not. of course the car will work and it will move. this is more a question of how much damage will doing this cuase to the engine. why spend money doing up the engine then ****ing the whole thing just becuase of something so simple as tuning. the car will still MOVE on a stock ecu. but why the hell would u risk it?

as i aid before, park it till u can afford to do it all. hope u have a daily driver :)

[Q_ball]

^ Agreed!

[IEVAQ8]

very true AzA, these people have no clue.
its the dumbest thing to even think about driving a car that is naturally aspirated high comp, slapping a turbo kit on it and driving it around.
i am doing mine in about a months time, i will have it all her and ready to go, if it takes a week to put together then so be it, then the tow truck, comes and del it t the tuner and i pick up from there hassel free.......
even if you were to rent a car for 2 weeks while the work was gewtting done it would be worht it rather than screwing your motor

[superR]

meh , just tune the damn thing.... trust me they get real touchy when you whack a big snail on the front.
The std ecu is not made / programmed for positive manifold pressure.
As said earlyer on in the post just wait till it is tuned , then drive it around. You will kick yourself if something does go wrong whilst driving it untuned.

[pwr2w8]

no tune means big issues

[e240]

i dont have time to install everything at 1 shot, prefer to do it in sections. Is there any way to set the boost to 0psi? and i cbf getting a tow truck to drive the car from work shop to other places, id rather drive it if its not going to damage anything. like i said im not going to " ?????

A proper tune is not something you want to do in stages. All you need is a steep hill where you have to load the engine and you could get serious engine damage.

[Turps]

no 1 said the ecu wont be instaled, just not at the same time as the turbo, basicaly i dont have time to install everything at 1 shot, prefer to do it in sections. Is there any way to set the boost to 0psi? and i cbf getting a tow truck to drive the car from work shop to other places, id rather drive it if its not going to damage anything. like i said im not going to Rev the car high or boost.

"[ricer]if u got an internal gate turbo just disconnect the atuator" ?????

Here's a thought if you don't have the time or money to install the turbo and ECU at the same time. Install the ECU first with a initial tune then later on install the tubro then obviously retune it. This way you will not have to drive the car around untune risking your engine.

[gReY-oNe]

not having the time
then screwing up ur motor (may happen may not but would u risk it??)
this would be a longer and more costly process

not having a run around is an issue
i has to learn to deal with public transport and its killin me
i live in teh middle of nowhere no train stations closest bus stop is 20 mins walk...
but still would not drive the car untuned


like someone said... get everything bolted on then tow it straight to your tuner
pick up wen its done :D

[string]

If it's a stock cr stock capacity motor with mostly stock apendages, just drive it with the stock injectors and swap them at the tuners place. Just stay off the throttle (as in stay off a LOT) and you'll be perfectly fine. If you don't think you can restrain yourself then get a tow truck. If you think you'll need to get a "0psi spring" get a tow truck because you are retarded in the right foot.

It's a bit extreme claiming you'll damage your motor by cruising around slowly with a stock fueling system. But when components affecting air flow start to seriously change the fuel requirements at low load and rpm, then you need to tow it to the tuner since no one wants to flood their newly built motor on first startup.

Edit: For a month or so; no way. Don't bolt your turbo on for that month until you can afford the tune.

[defect]

If I were you, I recommend you do everything at once
you should have heard "its all in the tune" before..

it actually means something :)

[VTC-8OY]

not having the time
then screwing up ur motor (may happen may not but would u risk it??)
this would be a longer and more costly process

not having a run around is an issue
i has to learn to deal with public transport and its killin me
i live in teh middle of nowhere no train stations closest bus stop is 20 mins walk...
but still would not drive the car untuned


like someone said... get everything bolted on then tow it straight to your tuner
pick up wen its done :D


wats getting done to ur engine? turbo?? ooOoooh

[defect]

haha your secret is out!

[JasonGilholme]

leave the standard ECU there,

Remove the spring from the wastegate

leave the standard injectors/fuel pressure reg in there

and stay under 2500 rpm with light throttle response.

[tekung89]

i got an idea, pull the wastegate off the rear housing of the turbo and leave teh gate open :D any boost will run straight out

[1996ek1]

i got an idea, pull the wastegate off the rear housing of the turbo and leave teh gate open :D any boost will run straight out

Thats almost what i was going to say!

But i was going to say jam it open, so boost goes straight through.