How do you know when to get a new clutch?

[xenonkuraz]

Recently, I've noticed when shifting that sometimes it won't lock in. Especially in reverse; it takes a couple shots to lock it in.

Even when the car is warm, sometimes it won't want to go into 1st or 3rd gear.

They're the only problematic ones...time for a new clutch? If so, should I go and get a heavy duty one?

:)

[shadou]

when it starts to slip, when the engagement point is too high

[xenonkuraz]

when the engagement point is too high

By that you mean the pedal doesn't go down as far?

[kerim]

pull the handbrake up, then slowly lift the clutch up, when you start to feel the car move, that should be your engagement point, if its too high then your clutch is nearly gone and need new one, but if still low then shouldnt be a problem

[shadou]

no mine for example the enegagment point is so far up I don't even need to depress it (got free play then I depress a further cm or so then can dis-engage)

[dc2dc2dc2]

sounds more like a gearbox problem to me

u know ur clutch is gone when u floor it or gun it around...

the revs will go up and the car will go no where.

[xenonkuraz]

Ah I see. Engagement point = friction point. I think my friction point is still okay. Maybe it is a gearbox problem...would it be expensive to replace?

[G-Stick]

normal vtir gearbox is around 700-1k.

[shadou]

here's a simple way to know if you need a new clutch:
gun it dc2 says
or take it up a steep hill just make sure no cars behind you lol :p

[code-87]

myt b wirth remembering that sum owners set there clutch points higher for racing applications etc
my clutch is, had it checked n its fine

[aaronng]

Reverse and 1st gear might take a few tries because you can get a "teeth-on-teeth" situation with the gears. Next time, if you find that you can't get into gear, put it into 4th and then try to get into 1st or reverse again.

For the difficulty shifting when you are already moving, change your MTF first. When was the last time you changed the gearbox's MTF?

[misteR_bilzz]

if u can take off in 2nd or 3rd ur clutch is fine... u know when ur clutch is on its way out when your in gear and giving throttle, it feels as though your clutch is engaged and your car revs out unexpectedly..

[aaronng]

Actually, if you try to take off in 3rd gear and you stall your engine, then your clutch is fine. :)

[blahZ]

sry but wat is an mtf?

[dc2dc2dc2]

manual transmission fluid

[blahZ]

oooooh

[gReY-oNe]

pull the handbrake up, then slowly lift the clutch up, when you start to feel the car move, that should be your engagement point, if its too high then your clutch is nearly gone and need new one, but if still low then shouldnt be a problem

is this always true??
cos my clutchs friction point is really high up
pretty much all teh way at the end
and my clutch is new dusnt slip??

[misteR_bilzz]

Actually, if you try to take off in 3rd gear and you stall your engine, then your clutch is fine. :)

lol how?


is this always true??
cos my clutchs friction point is really high up
pretty much all teh way at the end
and my clutch is new dusnt slip??

i think it only applies to cable clutches cause when mine (hydraulic) goes a lil high it re-adjusts itself.

[destrukshn]

pardon?
i know of stock cars being brand new with the engagement quite high, and it's a brand new car.
also.
some master cylinders are adjustable slightly, so the friction point is adjusted.

[destrukshn]

lol how?



i think it only applies to cable clutches cause when mine (hydraulic) goes a lil high it re-adjusts itself.
becuase some cars just don't have the power and torque to take off in 3rd gear
=)

[Vinnie]

Actually, if you try to take off in 3rd gear and you stall your engine, then your clutch is fine. :)

thats not really a difinitive test tho... ive seen new cars being launched in 5th and not stalling, clutch was fine.

when the clutch went on my mums mazda then it would free rev while in gear before you got any drive, its very obvious its slipping if that happens.

[misteR_bilzz]

becuase some cars just don't have the power and torque to take off in 3rd gear
=)

b-series can lol even a g13b (ss gti) can. i dont think ive come across one that cant.

[destrukshn]

b-series can lol even a g13b (ss gti) can. i dont think ive come across one that cant.
yet, you still haven't driven all the cars in the world correct?
lol.
what about a under powered, really heavy car?
lol.

[gReY-oNe]

yet, you still haven't driven all the cars in the world correct?
lol.
what about a under powered, really heavy car?
lol.

prelude :(
lmao

[aaronng]

thats not really a difinitive test tho... ive seen new cars being launched in 5th and not stalling, clutch was fine.

when the clutch went on my mums mazda then it would free rev while in gear before you got any drive, its very obvious its slipping if that happens.

I didn't say to launch. Take off as per normal with 1000-1500rpm in 3rd without slipping your clutch excessively.

The better test is to cruse at about 60-70km/h, and then floor your throttle in 5th or 6th gear. If your revs go up but the speed doesn't change much, then the clutch is slipping and worn.

[xenonkuraz]

I think my clutch is fine now ;) Thanks guys.

[Dy_]

sorry to steal thread..but i read here 'cable clutch and hydralic clutch' whats the difference?

[AsH_]

when i take off i rev to 2k, then i lift to friction point...

only problem is my friction point is basically just putting a lil' bit of depression of on the clutch...

its just about as high as the pedal is when not being used...

gotta lift my foot almost all the way up for friction to take off...

[destrukshn]

sorry to steal thread..but i read here 'cable clutch and hydralic clutch' whats the difference?
cable, will use a cable connected to your clutch pedal to relase the clutch.
hydraulic, will use fluid, to release your clutch, similar system to your brakes.

[lilwilliam]

pull the handbrake up, then slowly lift the clutch up, when you start to feel the car move, that should be your engagement point, if its too high then your clutch is nearly gone and need new one, but if still low then shouldnt be a problem

some cares have high friction points. like my da9 integra the friction point of it is like halfway.

[dc2dc2dc2]

its not the car its the clutch.

[mrwillz]

6.5k launch in reverse doesnt help either