B18C1 engines

[RBR_01]

just wondering guys have u ever heard of this engine before? b18c1 (GSR)?
If so is it rare to find one in australia?

[wp89]

just wondering guys have u ever heard of this engine before? b18c1 (GSR)?
If so is it rare to find one in australia?

might aswell get a k20a :p

pretty sure there are a few of them around

[Barge Ass]

Pretty sure GSR is American VTi-R.

[Barge Ass]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine#B18C1

[DLO01]

GSR = VTIR as Barge Ass said. :thumbsup:

[EGB18CT]

ive got one in my eg now, all bolt in stuff, i believe the earlier versions were obd 1 and is easier to tune and adapt hondata etc, the newer versions are obd2, GSR is the american version of the vti-r here, also in japan its called the sir-g so if you importing one from japan they will still refer to it as the gsr motor as thats what the yanks know it as, so if its stamped b18c1 its the usdm gsr if its stamped b18c its the jdm version (sir-g) the itr motor in jdm is also stamped b18c so to tell the diff the gsr head is stamped p72, has diff intake manifold and the black rocker cover. i believe its also 131kw or so (up from our vtir b18c, prolly due to it being tuned for higher octane fuel etc...) its the better motor to choose for turbo as the lower compression 10 someting and if your gonna build up the motor for turbo ull most likely swap out much of the internals so it be a waste to get the itr one.... anyway ill stop there before i rattle on lol....

[DLO01]

its the better motor to choose for turbo as the lower compression 10 someting

I don't think so. :thumbdwn:

Lowering compression is a backward step. Plus that not the only advantage the ITR engine has.

[EGB18CT]

but wouldnt that determine what hp ur after? may big big hp cars in the US that i know of run around 9:6-10:1 compression (600HP+) but if ur gonna turbo the stock motor then yes the itr motor would be better

[DLO01]

You were talking stock motors.

If your going to do internals it does not mater what motor, just depends how much money you wanna put in.

[EGB18CT]

You were talking stock motors.

If your going to do internals it does not mater what motor, just depends how much money you wanna put in.

true.. if you gonna totally build the motor its cheaper to get the gsr motor, but if your not get the itr..

anyway time to move on..

[Spunkymonkey]

b18c2 is the aussie spec vtir engine....b18c1 is the same spec

basically you got a 1.8 L 125KW 170Nm engine there.

[sleeper]

yes the b18c1 motor is a gsr motor and as spunkymonkey has stated the b18c1 is bascially like the aus spec vti-r motor so if your thinking about converting just get the aus spec one :thumbsup:

[Phuong1987]

B18c2 is an audm motor that has 125kw
b18c1 is the jdm motor ( 185hp )
much stronger then the vtir here

[z3lda]

B18c2 is an audm motor that has 125kw
b18c1 is the jdm motor or american that has 136kw ( 185hp )
much stronger then the vtir here

hope you dont look as stupid as what you just said

[string]

I don't think so. :thumbdwn:

Lowering compression is a backward step. Plus that not the only advantage the ITR engine has.
For a low boost track car/draily driver maybe, but there is a reason everyone going for serious power runs in the 9:1 range.

Also, what advantages of the ITR are you talking about? The more you modify the less there are. The B18C1 head has a greater quench area resulting in more detonation resistance than the ITR head. This combined with it's cost, is why it is the far more popular head for mid to high powered applications. It's combustion chamber is smaller for you to get your high compression jollies aswell. Slap the ITR cams in a GSR head and you're gold.

[DLO01]

String you trouble maker. :p

We are talking about boosting bone stock motors.

[Phuong1987]

hope you dont look as stupid as what you just said

you lost it mate, the guy asking whats a b18c1 motor, i help him out by telling him the difference, what you doing in this thread

[string]

you lost it mate, the guy asking whats a b18c1 motor, i help him out by telling him the difference, what your you doing in this tread
No he had it right; your information is incorrect.

B18C1 = USDM GSR
B18C = JDM SIR-G/ITR

The USA B18C1 is the same 170hp as the Australian B18C2 equivilent.

What on earth does "much stronger" mean...?

[Phuong1987]

well i got the info from here.
http://www.japanpowerinc.com/engines.php?brand=honda&id=B18C_GSR#spec

Are you saying this is wrong?

[Phuong1987]

I did some research about this motor, some places says it 180hp and others are 185hp.

my bad, i dont mean usdm

[string]

What you said and what your linked site says aren't quite the same... JDM != USDM

[Phuong1987]

well im just saying that jdm motor is stronger the audm motor.

[z3lda]

well im just saying that jdm motor is stronger the audm motor.


i think u should quit while your still behind. your just digging your a bigger hole

[string]

I've heard many people say stronger and mean more powerful, but it sure is confusing.

[Phuong1987]

i think u should quit while your still behind. your just digging your a bigger hole

At least every1 else is putting input to this thread, hope someone can confirm about the jdm motors

[string]

No one is refuting that the JDM motors are more powerful. It's a well known fact, and part of their appeal.

What is incorrect is that they are stamped B18C1 as per your post, and that the actual B18C1's are tuned to similar specifications as their JDM counterparts.

[civic88]

his asking about b18c1 phuong1987

[fatboyz39]

B18c1 is a USDM motor. JDM motors should come with ONLY b18c.

[civic88]

b18c1 is indeed a usdm motor while b18c is a jdm motor its totally differnet phuong

[Phuong1987]

b18c1 is indeed a usdm motor while b18c is a jdm motor its totally differnet phuong


B18c1 is a USDM motor. JDM motors should come with ONLY b18c.

What are you saying the jdm b18cR is stamp b18c, the jdm vtir b18c cant be stamped B18c as well..

can you explain, specially civic88

[Benson]

all Jdm b18c motors are stamped b18c only.

[civic88]

all Jdm b18c motors are stamped b18c only.

what he sed phuong

[blahZ]

all Jdm b18c motors are stamped b18c only.

then how do u tell the difference btween Rs and non Rs?

[bennjamin]

(IF LEFT STOCK)

by the valve cover , or by the head markings and inlet manifold design.
Also by the header itself. Everything else is pretty much the same

[barefootbonzai]

then how do u tell the difference btween Rs and non Rs?

most obvious would be the head, they are different and are quite easy to identify.