MUGEN Air intake - before i buy [Archive]

nakz

31-08-2007, 08:16 PM

Im thinking of buying Mugen cold air intake.. is it good? you guys recommending it?

Cost: 1150$

http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b3/3f/9e74_1.JPG
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/jdmconcept-com-au/mugen/intakedc5sample.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/jdmconcept-com-au/mugen/intakedc5.jpg

Tap.Ris

31-08-2007, 08:20 PM

is a bit too pricey for me... it looks like a sri with a filter box.. hmm but 1150 for something like that, maybe u shd look around for some user reviews.

nakz

31-08-2007, 08:43 PM

yah it wayz pricey.. but i tihnk i can get it way cheaper from the trader here..

m0nty ITR

31-08-2007, 10:10 PM

You'd be better off with the Gruppe-M or Injen CAIs. The Gruppe-M is still a box type if you wanna keep subtlety. If you wanna be noticed, get the Injen.

Max Power

31-08-2007, 10:16 PM

I got my gruppe m from MAN autoparts in Hong Kong for about 800 dollars shipped a year ago...they might be worth a try.

maracer

31-08-2007, 10:18 PM

I thought the MUGEN had a drop in fillter not a panel one?
Can anyone verify this.

nakz

31-08-2007, 10:35 PM

mugen filter look the same as the orginal filter... will it make any different?? what diff from the orginal?

blk_shadow

31-08-2007, 11:51 PM

I thought the MUGEN had a drop in fillter not a panel one?
Can anyone verify this.

Mugen has two types of drop in air filter, which is the tube shaped one and the normal square one.
otherwise, it will come with the box like pictured above

X8TEENX

01-09-2007, 02:55 AM

Gruppe-M is the way to go if you got that much $$

[RSX 03]

01-09-2007, 03:02 AM

This intake is useless with out the moogen front bar.

EG30

01-09-2007, 03:10 AM

very impressed with the Mugen air box my fren has in his dc2r, which came with a Gruppe M air filter in cone form.

mikoZ

03-09-2007, 12:35 PM

batter to get a gruppem one.
the AEM CAI is good as well

45SET

03-09-2007, 12:58 PM

I have a Mugen intake in my DC5r. They have the panel filter in them. You can get a drop in pod, but that is used for the stock airbox. Also there is no need to get a Mugen front bar, just remove the front grill if you must... but after reading simular posts by people, the stock intake is in the same position. The pics don't do the size of the actully air box any justice... the shear size of the filter area is MASSIVE, and the size of the bottom part of the box is also very deep, so can hold alot of air.

Only thing i would reccomend (i was told to do this by my mechanic) was to clean out the air filter oil, as the oil used my mugen is very thick. Clean the oil out, and then use a thinner oil.

If your keen on one, sit back and wait for one to pop up, i managed to get mine 2nd hand, used for 2 months, for $700.

nakz

03-09-2007, 03:13 PM

hows the performance wise? more power?

I have a Mugen intake in my DC5r. They have the panel filter in them. You can get a drop in pod, but that is used for the stock airbox. Also there is no need to get a Mugen front bar, just remove the front grill if you must... but after reading simular posts by people, the stock intake is in the same position. The pics don't do the size of the actully air box any justice... the shear size of the filter area is MASSIVE, and the size of the bottom part of the box is also very deep, so can hold alot of air.

Only thing i would reccomend (i was told to do this by my mechanic) was to clean out the air filter oil, as the oil used my mugen is very thick. Clean the oil out, and then use a thinner oil.

If your keen on one, sit back and wait for one to pop up, i managed to get mine 2nd hand, used for 2 months, for $700.

45SET

03-09-2007, 06:29 PM

with any type of intake your not going to really notice a power gain, as its only going to be like 5kw or so, if your lucky... and well... your not going to really notice that.

What it does do though is makes the vtec change over point very smooth... all you notice is the noise. I had a SRI before this... i rate the Mugen.

nakz

03-09-2007, 10:08 PM

so.. it just the noise.. i might get injen then..

mikoZ

04-09-2007, 12:08 AM

injen got more power, mugen got more torque, gruppe m is the composite of them (thatz what i think so)

vippy84

04-09-2007, 02:38 AM

I bought my Mugen Air Intake for 730 delivered from a friend in Perth (brand new). Pretty lucky for that one.
Also, Mugen air intake give no noise. It is the quiet type of Air intake.

If you want noise, then probably mugen air intake is not the choice for you.

Also, you need to reset your ECU when you install the air intake.

Hope that helps

so.. it just the noise.. i might get injen then..

nakz

04-09-2007, 09:15 AM

why do i need to reset my ECU, and whats ECU? the thing about gruppe m is that you have to cut up some hole or somfing.

XP02ED

04-09-2007, 09:24 AM

you reset it by pulling your battery off for 15 minutes then let it idle for say 10 minutes.

gruppem u dont cut anything.. u get a new cowl top which you replace the stock one

look at my engine bay for example :

http://xposed.au.com/photos/resized/14/1188772005_Image16.jpg

nakz

04-09-2007, 09:53 AM

i remember reading the installation process, and you had to cut up something.

you reset it by pulling your battery off for 15 minutes then let it idle for say 10 minutes.

gruppem u dont cut anything.. u get a new cowl top which you replace the stock one

look at my engine bay for example :

http://xposed.au.com/photos/resized/14/1188772005_Image16.jpg

XP02ED

04-09-2007, 09:56 AM

mine was a custom install

I had a K&N typhoon piping which i cut up to use as i dont have OEM piping from TB to air intake..

mikul_ha

04-09-2007, 10:21 AM

so.. it just the noise.. i might get injen then..

its not just noise ... it will also effect your throttle response from low-mid range.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65350&page=22

dont know much about the mugen for a dc5, some say you need the bumper for it to be effective others say the bumper wont do shit...

vote for gruppem FTW

gruppem > injen + mugen :thumbsup:

Max Power

04-09-2007, 09:27 PM

The gruppe m is a great intake if you have the money. The Mugen is also very good once you remove the front grille cover, as you get a direct air feed into the intake tube. Overall the smooth internals of the airbox and the large panel filter make the intake more effective. It is true that the mugen doesnt give a power increase like the injen, but it is fully legal and really worth a look. It keeps the car semi quiet, and with a decent tune doesnt really stuff your power gains that much. My car has 138kw at the wheels and i have one, so it cant be too bad.

Paul_Dc5

04-09-2007, 11:23 PM

If u ask me, dont get one man.I got one bck thn for me car its was shit man.only maked a little more power thn a stock one, i dyn it so i know.
get a cold-int "injen" its better..

when i sold it to a mate for my,1week after he took it off "kekeke" n said the same thin "IT WAS SHIT"
'I DID TELL HIM KEKEK'

air23box

05-09-2007, 01:37 AM

Its all depends on what you looking for......if you have a aftermarket bodykit with intake hold in it.....it will make some different.....if you run stock front bar....coz you are not getting free flow air direct to ur box so it not that noticeable......the intake air temp different of mugen and GruppM is about 3-5 Degree different with stock front bar.....1-3 degree different with aftermarket front bar......injen is giving you more top end power but the look of it is not really legal if you get busted....

mikoZ

05-09-2007, 02:20 AM

hey guys ,new question coming, now i got the gruppem intake system, and got mugen front bumper as well, if i custom the airbox like mugen one, give another admitting port, is that make more different???

air23box

05-09-2007, 02:52 AM

Everything design for a reason.......leave it as it is bro......its not going to work...

XP02ED

05-09-2007, 08:11 AM

why do u need to customise your front bar if you have a gruppem? gruppem grabs air from your bonnet

mikoZ

05-09-2007, 01:53 PM

why do u need to customise your front bar if you have a gruppem? gruppem grabs air from your bonnet

nor bro, i got mugen front bar already, i mean , give the gruppem air box an extra port like mugen one

45SET

05-09-2007, 04:36 PM

nor bro, i got mugen front bar already, i mean , give the gruppem air box an extra port like mugen one

Not unless you wanna hack up your Gruppe M.

I wouldn't bother... just like everything, to much of something isn't a good thing...

XP02ED

05-09-2007, 04:38 PM

cant do that with gruppem as it relies on the air comming from the bonnet as it then hits the filter, if you make a hole prior to it your feeding air the other way

RABBITrabbit

17-10-2007, 10:01 AM

Mugen air box get it its pretty good u feel the diffents!! big diffents

Jackson15

17-10-2007, 10:50 AM

yeah but injen is so much cheaper, picked one up from jdm yard myself for a little over $450 i think it was.

about 6kw gain, feels nice, sounds nice :) that's my experience anyway!

suspicious1

17-10-2007, 11:43 AM

Another vote for Injen, 11kW gain (DC5S), definitely feel the difference in response and power across the rev range now! :)

TypeR Lover

17-10-2007, 12:45 PM

With all these CAI, doesn't the stock or mugen style intake work better at higher speed due to the fact that as the car travel faster, more air can be forced into the engine 'cause intake inlet is exposed at front of car?

Off course this theory won't be evident on the dyno 'cause da car's not actually moving forward to pick up higher velocity air.

aaronng

17-10-2007, 01:15 PM

For $1000+, you're better off with some good headers like Toda. You get more gains there throughout the rpm range.

Jackson15

17-10-2007, 01:17 PM

so at what road legal speed do you think the mugen becomes more beneficial than an injen if that is the case ?....pretty hard to answer but i like the mid range benefit i get before vtec even kicks in with the injen.

can be going faster than 110 in second gear so not really too worried about loosing any top end power as that is as fast isi can go legaly anyway :)

maracer

17-10-2007, 05:57 PM

For $1000+, you're better off with some good headers like Toda. You get more gains there throughout the rpm range.

I have already got the full TODA system,
I’m also looking at getting a new air intake system too, can’t decide between INJEN, MUGEN and Gruppe-M?
1 thing that keeps coming into my mind is that all three are different. Hard to choose?
Currently got an APEXI SRI (dry filter type) that works fine DYNO proven 4kw @wheels on my car!

aaronng

17-10-2007, 06:41 PM

obsessionz

16-11-2007, 09:33 AM

Mugen air box get it its pretty good u feel the diffents!! big diffents

You have a DC2 ... the mugen airbox is better on the dc2r and the ek9 then the dc5... its different

Mattski_VTIR

16-11-2007, 09:47 AM

If you got the Coin go the Gruppe-M, results on the Dyno aren't as strong as an Injen, but dyno's dont show throttle response. Injen are VERY good bang for buck :thumbsup: Mugen are also good when fitted with Mugen Front Bar, they are also a little quieter then the Gruppe-M. Personally i love the sound of the Gruppe-m, although some don't!

TeMp

16-11-2007, 01:46 PM

XP02ED

16-11-2007, 02:57 PM

I have already got the full TODA system,
I’m also looking at getting a new air intake system too, can’t decide between INJEN, MUGEN and Gruppe-M?
1 thing that keeps coming into my mind is that all three are different. Hard to choose?
Currently got an APEXI SRI (dry filter type) that works fine DYNO proven 4kw @wheels on my car!

Put it this way, if you spend 25k + on your car.. You want the best.. if you dont wna go all out on your car.. get the Injen.. if you want the best go for gruppem or mugen..

i have got a gruppem.. from a typhoon intake and aint looking back.. but if u got a budget then go for an INJEN....

u can pickup a 2nd hand injen around the $300 mark.. buy a brand new gruppem for about 900ish... If you can source a 2nd hand gruppem for the 600-700 mark u should grab that ;D

StrawberryFace

16-11-2007, 03:55 PM

An INJEN isn't a budget intake.

Just because its cheaper does not mean its worst than the Gruppe-M or Mugen. In fact it puts out more power than both of those intakes, however you'll be sacrificing throttle response slightly because it is a true CAI.

Zilli

16-11-2007, 03:59 PM

love it when people talk about 25k+ being a massive investment into a high class big dollar supercar or something...

anyway, if you want to waste your money but be able to brag about a name, and being able to buy it, then buy anyhting other than Injen... just my 2c

Save the 500 dollars and put it towards something that will give you real power...

Mattski_VTIR

16-11-2007, 04:00 PM

Problem i find with the INJEN is its Cold Air Feed location, People think becuase its away from the Engine and down low its getting cold air... This is only part true, as people forget that road temps are significantly hotter then ambient air temps.. A $500 intake is not "cheap" in my books, but a bargain when you compare $/hp against Mugen/Gruppe-m

XP02ED

16-11-2007, 04:10 PM

If you look at my post.. i didnt say honda.. its general..

25k is alot.. esp if your 21.. like me..

Sorry im not on a 6 figure salary...

love it when people talk about 25k+ being a massive investment into a high class big dollar supercar or something...

anyway, if you want to waste your money but be able to brag about a name, and being able to buy it, then buy anyhting other than Injen... just my 2c

Save the 500 dollars and put it towards something that will give you real power...

45SET

20-11-2007, 01:19 PM

lol... this thread is funny.

Part of the reason I only read ozhonda and rearly post... so many people on here THINK they are a pro and are trying to justify the purchase of what they bought for there car... everyone is differant... GET OVER IT!

lol... funny thread.

RABBITrabbit

24-11-2007, 01:19 PM

big diffents i got it for dc2r its cheep

Elwood

29-11-2007, 02:55 PM

if you are buying this car for a dc2r it is highly recommended, as it is a quality part and gives quality gains.. ive seen these as low as $860 shipped, so look around and you can always get a cheaper price.. if you look at the engine bay of most dc2r's they have all chosen the mugen over the Gruppe M or any others, but if price is a problem then go with the cheaper options.