rim sizes?

[omgitsmatt]

hey guys planning to buy 17s for my 1994 honda civic gli just got a few questions that need to be answered
1. will they fit without any modifications?
2. in order to fit properly what offsets would they need to be
3. PCD: 4x100-114.3 ( what exactly does that mean? )
thanks in advanced

[honda_zivic]

u dont need any mods but if ur car is lowered then u mite need 2 roll out da fender guard,
only 4x100 will fit civic eg not 4x114 these are mainly for preludes an such.
off sets are normally 40 or something.

[Dy_]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31014

offset 40
tyre profile 40

[traumatized]

17" rims will fit right as long as you buy the correct width, offset, pcd. providing that your car is not lowered to the ground which may cause the tyres to rub on your guards

you should be looking for 4x100 as stated above and an offset of 40-42 would be fine.

[SeverAMV]

pretty much the 100 and 114.3 is talking about the diameter location of the stud holes. ie. 4x100 would have 4 holes, with 100mm between the centres of opposing holes.

[EZZY]

keep it in mind that 17" will be a defect item if the cop really wants to get you for some thing..... the eg came with 14" yeah?

[Dy_]

yep egs are stock 14"

[SeverAMV]

could always stick on the 15s sticker on your door sill thingy. thats the only thing the cops looked for on my car.

[EZZY]

cough*tyre*cough*plcard*cough

[omgitsmatt]

lol thanks for info, a friend from work said that the 4x100-114.3 means that the car is multi studed in the sense that it would fit both 4x100 and 4x114.3 does that sound correct?

[Boban]

your car can't be multistudded.
Some rims have multi stud (multifit) holes so they will fit more than one studd pattern for example the 4x100 (civics, lancers etc....) and 4x114.3 (180sx, silvias, older lasers/mazdas etc...)

Also, the 17's on a civic are defectable as ezzy said, if the cop really and i mean really wants to defect you, how do i know (been there ->got done :() but i've had the rims for over 3 1/2 years and only been done once

<----------------Same car as yours 94 civic

[omgitsmatt]

ok so if its multi fit they would obviously fit right?
and also to the defect thingo: doesnt any of the egs come stock with bigger rim sizes then 14's?

[EZZY]

ok so if its multi fit they would obviously fit right?
then you'd need to worry about the offset....



and also to the defect thingo: doesnt any of the egs come stock with bigger rim sizes then 14's?
dont think so, even my old EK GLi came with 14" wheels, and the new VTi (FD?) came with 15".

[SeverAMV]

if they made 17inch tyres with a sidewall profile of 30-35, then maybe you could get it legal, but since they dont, you cant.

[honda_zivic]

multi stud rims have 8 stud holes which has 4x100 and 4x114.

[EZZY]

if they made 17inch tyres with a sidewall profile of 30-35, then maybe you could get it legal, but since they dont, you cant.

in nsw, there is a difference between:
- overall diameter modification allowed (tyre & rim combo - max 25mm from memory)
&
- max legal modification allowed for rims only (2" max from factory suggested size)

[OMG.JAI xD]

cough*tyre*cough*plcard*cough

lol

i got 17" rims for my civic .. no tyres yet, but plannin on gettin 215/40/17

i got a question too, could a 235/45/17 fit 17x7? :/ cause the otha guy ran 205/40 and thats like .. thin as sh*t..

..theres a way to avoid cops :/
just dont drive like a dikhead on mainroads :/
that includes sittin on the chair with one hand like a sick c*nt..
drive properly at least -.-"

:D

[EZZY]

234/45 will increase the overall diameter much more than 215/40.

Tire Size Comparison

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
215/40-17 3.4in 11.9in 23.8in 74.7in 848 0.0&#37;
235/45-17 4.2in 12.7in 25.3in 79.6in 796 6.5%

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html

[Zdster]

multi stud rims have 8 stud holes which has 4x100 and 4x114.

Multi stud rims can have 10 'holes' as well.


ok so if its multi fit they would obviously fit right?


Not necessarily. You need to check if the rims are 4x100 (PCD) and also compare the offset to the wheel width.

[OMG.JAI xD]

234/45 will increase the overall diameter much more than 215/40.

Tire Size Comparison

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
215/40-17 3.4in 11.9in 23.8in 74.7in 848 0.0%
235/45-17 4.2in 12.7in 25.3in 79.6in 796 6.5%

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html


i know that but like .. will it still fit a 17x7 ? cause some rims are 17x7.5 :/

[EZZY]

i know that but like .. will it still fit a 17x7 ? cause some rims are 17x7.5 :/
possibly, better check with your tyre guy to make sure....

[markCivicVti]

So what happens when you change from say 15" to 17". Obviously your speedo will be out... can Honda fix that easily? Can some larger tyre places fix that? Would it cost much?

By fix it I mean re-calibrate the speedo.

[EZZY]

believe it or not, when i had 18" on my astina (it came 14" standard) and was getting things done for the engineers cert, i had to go to one of these speedo calibration place in sydney, they carried the tests and it came out "clean"... rule of the thumb is to keep the overall diameter as close to the factor setup as possible (thats how you get close to the factor speedo calibration)

[markCivicVti]

Thats a big jump from 14 to 18"s. Do you remember how much you paid for them to check the calibration?

[EZZY]

i had 18" in 1998. i was able to get it engineered because the gross weight of the car was over 1200kg (according to the engineer).
the speedo calibration test was about $60 back in the late '90s. have no idea what it's cost now.

[Zdster]

There is no need to have your speedo recalibrated just because you increase wheel size. Just use a tyre size calculator to determine the change in your speedo (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

[EZZY]

There is no need to have your speedo recalibrated just because you increase wheel size. Just use a tyre size calculator to determine the change in your speedo (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

if this was directed at me...
thats because i need to present the speedo calibration test report to the engineer, so a engineers cert can be issued.:thumbsup:

[J-Rome]

I've got 18's on my EK. Where can I go to get an engineers certificate?(I'm in Northern NSW)

[EZZY]

check the RTA website, from memory there should be a list of RTA approved signatory engineers available to issue you an engineers cert.

[J-Rome]

LOL, well cars actually registered in QLD so i guess i gotta check the DOT site. Cheers mate

[OMG.JAI xD]

i heard it doesnt ma tter what rim size you have, as long as the diameter n width stay the same in ratio to your old one :/

lol .. apparently I AM the tyre guy .. doin evrythin myself .. got machine at work .. just need to know if itll fit right etc .. :/

[EZZY]

i heard it doesnt ma tter what rim size you have, as long as the diameter n width stay the same in ratio to your old one :/
you heard wrong....

[omgitsmatt]

so i bought 17s for my civic ( 4x100-114.3 ) but not sure what size tyres i should be looking at. ie ?/?/? if that makes sense

[EZZY]

205/40 or 215/40 (at the most)

[OMG.JAI xD]

can anyone tell me if 17x7 n 17x7.5 will change what tyres you get?

obviously theres gonna be some differences .. someone tell me .. i know all the diameter aspect ratio rim size details on tyres n sht.
just gotta know if it does matter what tyres are for which width :/

[SeverAMV]

only a small width would really limit what tyres you can get. most tyres can be stretched if theyre not far enough (this is a trick some people do over here to keep the tread under the guard to keep it legal). for 215-235, i dont think it would make much of a difference. for 245 and more, it would be noticeable.
just remember that contact patch only affects grip in wet weather, only the compound matters in the dry. wider tyres in the dry will only help it cool better, wont make it grip more (unless you're going from stretched to regular, then its noticeable in cornering).

@omgitsmatt - whats the width of the rim? should tell you on the inside.

@OMG.JAI xD - width generally doesnt matter, its more so the diameter of the tyre.

@Zdster - yup, dont need speedo recalibrated. all factory speedos are usually 2 degrees higher than the actual speed, so when your speedo reads 100, you're actually going 98 (a trick by car manufacturers to reduce the chance of collision). so if you bump up the rim size by the 2 inch rule, youll normally be getting your speedo spot on.

[omgitsmatt]

sorry to dig up an old thread, but has anyone been defected for having larger rim sizes? say 17s on a civic when you can only have 16s if so what are the consequences?