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MURCHO
31-07-2004, 11:00 AM
i know this has most likely been covered before and have done search but haven't found anything that properly answers my question.

what are the pros and cons of these two cars??? and which one is the better overall car?

BLKCRX
31-07-2004, 11:47 AM
DC5 all the way !!!

read here..

Hypothetical - Which would you buy DC2 or DC5?? ( 1 2 3 )
FunkyR

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=179229

skoota
01-08-2004, 12:22 AM
DC2R in Aus rocks. Aus DC5R is too detuned IMO.

*Oh no -I'm gonna get flames BAD*

type one
01-08-2004, 11:54 AM
DC2R is the genuine thing - sequels are never as good :)



Except for the Godfather Part II.

mugsee
01-08-2004, 03:14 PM
terminator 2 was definitely better than the first one. same goes with aliens over alien. :p

davey
01-08-2004, 06:25 PM
the sequals are never the same as the orignial

DC2R

JINRAI
01-08-2004, 07:00 PM
DC5R mos def

CJL
01-08-2004, 08:10 PM
Sequel’s are where the improvements made usually :D

davey
01-08-2004, 09:51 PM
yes true but the dc5r has a new 2ltr motor where as with the b18 it has been advanced over the years and have been tuned to perform at its best. whereas the dc5 will still need a bit of time till they recognise its full potential.

thats what i think anyway

[[d a n n y]]
01-08-2004, 10:45 PM
i find DC5R's faster than the DC2's

SIKCVC
01-08-2004, 11:22 PM
its been proven, and I'm sure James will add something that the DC5's hold a lot more potential... although the DC2 is the quicker car stock.

If your putting money into it, go for the DC5... I mean James got 21kwts at the wheels with a chip!!!

BLKCRX
01-08-2004, 11:36 PM
eheh not a chip.. eheh a fully programble Hondata [acronym:0ff81389c2="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:0ff81389c2] ;)

but yeah aust stock dc2 vs aust stock dc5... i would go the aust dc2

[acronym:0ff81389c2="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:0ff81389c2] dc2 vs [acronym:0ff81389c2="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:0ff81389c2] dc5 i would go the [acronym:0ff81389c2="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:0ff81389c2] dc5

modifed DC2 vs Modifed dc5 hands down without a doubt DC5 !!


Regards James

JINRAI
02-08-2004, 01:10 PM
Alot of ppl don't like the DC5 (I have no idea why!?) I had a friend called a family car?! DANG! I guess the DC2 is much lower than the DC5?

DC 5 looks so much better, the rear lights of the DC2 don't look nice at all but the front is nice.

skoota
02-08-2004, 04:59 PM
I would agree with everything that BLKCRX said. Right on yo! :D

adriancsa
02-08-2004, 09:23 PM
DC2R is hands down the winner as it is much quoted that the LEV on the DC5R stands for "Low End Vtec"........ enough said. :wink:

DC2.R
03-08-2004, 09:10 AM
In stock form the [acronym:2e6b45ad0a="Australian Domestic Market"]AUDM[/acronym:2e6b45ad0a] DC2.R but if i we are talking [acronym:2e6b45ad0a="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:2e6b45ad0a] then definelty the DC5.R.....I much prefer the Recaros in the DC5 also.

blackdc5itr
04-08-2004, 01:12 PM
did someone just say that the LEV sands for "low end vtec"? :shock:

it even says "low emissions vehicle" on the damn car! take a closer look next time mate :lol:

blackdc5itr
04-08-2004, 01:24 PM
... and about the dc5 vs. dc2.....

there's a '01 ITR in adelaide at Nordic Honda for sale... its a DC2R with 300km's on the clock...

its $40,000....

so tell me, this is one of the only DC2R's in australia that hasnt been totally thrashed

vs.

a brand new DC5R (i think i got one of the last ones :D ) with a 3 year warenty for a few thousand more?


BUT... if you could buy the DC2R's brand new, i think i would be the proud owner of one of them, rather than my DC5R

SiR
04-08-2004, 01:39 PM
did someone just say that the LEV sands for "low end vtec"? :shock:

it even says "low emissions vehicle" on the damn car! take a closer look next time mate :lol:

He was kidding....notice the :wink: at the end of his post?

skoota
04-08-2004, 01:47 PM
Perhaps blackdc5itr - YOU need to have a closer look at what people post next time...

toE
05-08-2004, 06:38 AM
grab urselves a copy of the BMI Vol. 2

off the top of my head,

The DC2R wasnt developed frm scratch. It was rather refined from the Integra SiR. Whereas the DC5R was basically developed from scratch.

Motoharu "GanSan" Kurosawa interviewed the designer (i think that's his title) of the DC5R and he reckons that in a way, the DC5R is the real Type R as it was developed pretty much from scratch. {You bois decide}

The overall dimensions between the two are not far off under the microscope.

The heavier DC5R is made up with a larger sized engine. {Unfortunately they did not do a 1/4 mile comparing the two, so can't prove this point}

Gan San then proceded to take the DC5R on the Honda test track and (again, off the top of my head) he reckons the DC5R has an improved overall balance and stiffer chasis, however, the suspension was a little soft for an R, better brakes and is fast.

Note
I'm not saying that BMI vids are the bible, but look at it rather as a reference guide.
Both DC2R and DC5R mentioned in this post are JDM, so for the comment of the "fast" and "better brakes", can be irrelevant for AUDM DCs.

CJL
05-08-2004, 09:13 AM
amen brother....

BMI vids are the shiznit

[zeth]
05-08-2004, 10:15 AM
but then again, i've heard an argument (from SPOON CEO i think)where the DC5 chasis is based on the stream chasis which is a station wagon or something ??

MURCHO
05-08-2004, 11:04 AM
how much is it for the hondata on a DC5R????

toE
05-08-2004, 06:53 PM
havent seen/heard any comments from Ichishima-san as yet [zeth], so until I do, i'm sticking with wat i've seen/heard. :P

pornstar
05-08-2004, 07:31 PM
im a race entuisiest so the d2r gets my vote.

00dc2
05-08-2004, 11:55 PM
dc2r is more raw.. dc5r is more refined and newer..

it comes down to personal opinion.. if you spend a reasonably time in both then you can make a propper decision..

I have and prefer my dc2r for its rawness.. but the dc5r for its 6spd gearbox.. but i think my gearbox is better than the new one.. it just needs more slots :)

euGeR
06-08-2004, 12:07 AM
grab urselves a copy of the BMI Vol. 2

off the top of my head,

The DC2R wasnt developed frm scratch. It was rather refined from the Integra SiR. Whereas the DC5R was basically developed from scratch.

Motoharu "GanSan" Kurosawa interviewed the designer (i think that's his title) of the DC5R and he reckons that in a way, the DC5R is the real Type R as it was developed pretty much from scratch. {You bois decide}

The overall dimensions between the two are not far off under the microscope.

The heavier DC5R is made up with a larger sized engine. {Unfortunately they did not do a 1/4 mile comparing the two, so can't prove this point}

Gan San then proceded to take the DC5R on the Honda test track and (again, off the top of my head) he reckons the DC5R has an improved overall balance and stiffer chasis, however, the suspension was a little soft for an R, better brakes and is fast.

Note
I'm not saying that BMI vids are the bible, but look at it rather as a reference guide.
Both DC2R and DC5R mentioned in this post are JDM, so for the comment of the "fast" and "better brakes", can be irrelevant for AUDM DCs.

He does say all that :roll: but he's driving a JDM DC5R

If I bought a DC5R, I'd always wish I had a JDM one ...
but with a DC2R .... the only thing i'd wish for is a JDM front end :)

Sp3rMz
06-08-2004, 01:59 PM
ur kidding me aint u? u like the jdm dc2 head? i hate the look of it i reakon aus one looks betta. Also at the same time i reakon my dc2r rawness is more to my personal taste...once again personal opionon...if ur a racey and sporty type of person i believe u would enjoy the dc2r.....

~(,") My 5cent of the day (",)~

geo41e
19-02-2005, 11:24 AM
i rekon the DC5 is a better everyday car + sports car....
and the DC2R is better for track....

anyways..i rekon DC5R will go harder....hehe

industrie
19-02-2005, 12:27 PM
the only dc5r you should even talk about is the JDM version..that is the pure Type R...the one in australia is a joke..toned down version of the Acura junk in america...just re-badged...

The dc2r that was sold in australia will be the only raw genuine type R to hit our shores which you could purchase from the dealer..i have a few friends who have personally imported the JDM DC5R 2002/03 model..and damn the difference in power is amazing...it keeps up with a s2k no problems...we took it to track at phillip island :) (pending the driver as well)

olda
19-02-2005, 12:51 PM
ur kidding me aint u? u like the jdm dc2 head? i hate the look of it i reakon aus one looks betta. Also at the same time i reakon my dc2r rawness is more to my personal taste...once again personal opionon...if ur a racey and sporty type of person i believe u would enjoy the dc2r.....

~(,") My 5cent of the day (",)~

Yes, twin round headlamps are the DC2 Integra's trade mark. :thumbsup:
That's what it sets appart from the other commom cars with just one lamp per side.
JDM headlamps looks very much like a carry over from the superceded model.:thumbdwn:

Driven both, the DC2R and the DC5R in one day, before buying the DC2R.
The DC2R steers so much better than the DC5R, thanks to its far superior front end suspension and a less weight over the front wheels.:thumbsup:
The DC5R with the DC2R's front suspension package?????????????????????.
I think, I would have been today driving IT instead of the DC2R. ;)

typeRr
19-02-2005, 12:57 PM
dc5r is is newer and cost more and it also looks better.
my personal opinion!

Macros
19-02-2005, 01:04 PM
Aliens and Terminator are part of trilogys.

dc2 yo

Cr@ckerJ@ck
19-02-2005, 01:36 PM
My god, not again!!!! How can you compare the two cars really....
It's like saying "Which is better, a GTR R33 or a GTR R34"
When will people learn that you can only compare apples with apples....

The real question is which one can you afford..

I drive a DC5r so i am bias anyways :p

olda
19-02-2005, 02:27 PM
dc5r is is newer and cost more and it also looks better.
my personal opinion!

The DC5R looks good from some angles.
Unfortunately the current styling trend calls for a high waist, which makes the DC5R look too tall and a kind of boxy (tall and narrow) particularly from the rear. :confused:

thanh
20-02-2005, 01:00 AM
My opinion is to get the DC5R if you have the cash!

Its a every day car that you can keep for a long time

DC2R is more like a track car, more stiff in suspension (pretty rough on NSW road) :thumbdwn:

Chi
20-02-2005, 01:02 AM
Not a fan of DC5Rs, too fat and doesnt feel like a Type R compared to Dc2r.

Plus dc2r looks better imho.

Sp3rMz
20-02-2005, 01:43 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!! This debate was very very old. It was like when i started on ozhonda. Who brought it back up? LOL

BTW EVO III ALL THE WAY:D

edw-R
20-02-2005, 05:02 AM
Compare Aus dc2R and Aus dc5R, dc2R should be better.
Compare mods dc2R and mods dc5R, never have ans.

jords
20-02-2005, 05:58 PM
lets agree to disagree

civicboy
20-02-2005, 05:59 PM
DC5R:!: all da way:!:

CJL
20-02-2005, 10:13 PM
Talk about digging up pointless past threads:thumbdwn:


BAH! AWD

MY04 wrx sti all the way:thumbsup:

Jim80y
20-02-2005, 10:19 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!!! This debate was very very old. It was like when i started on ozhonda. Who brought it back up? LOL

BTW EVO III ALL THE WAY:D

I think (and hope) you are missing the V.... should be Evo VIII :D

Sp3rMz
20-02-2005, 10:21 PM
No i'm not missing a V :p I'm thinkin of betraying the honda fans and joinin the mistu evo crew :D And i'd rather evo IX (think thats 9) LOL

hong_ung
20-02-2005, 11:28 PM
More than u can afford pal...Ferrari all the way

panda[cRx]
21-02-2005, 12:10 AM
I think (and hope) you are missing the V.... should be Evo VIII :D

luv the ebo tree!!!

Bludger
21-02-2005, 01:56 AM
I think the drivers of both these cars would give biased answers

staryknight
21-02-2005, 12:16 PM
just got myself a dc5 last wednesday, so yeh, i like the dc5, =P

THRUST
22-02-2005, 06:13 PM
Ok I drive a Prelude so my answer wont be biased.

Exterior looks, I like the DC2 better, looks smaller, sleek, sportier. The DC5 looks a bit bubbly and fat.

Interior looks would go with DC5 much more comfy seats, better design.

type one
23-02-2005, 12:34 PM
speak to the drivers who have driven both... like me... and a few other members on this board... no comparison dc2r for looks, styling, comfort, and handling. To clarify my point on comfort, to get the aus delivered dc5r running as nicely as the dc2r stock for stock u might need to sacrifice some comfort... which is what Honda Australia chose not to do...

k20a vs b18c then technology goes to k20a but props goes to b18c...

qup70c
24-02-2005, 09:13 AM
Dc2 for me :thumbsup:

tommieson
26-01-2009, 09:15 PM
well dc2r are faster than dc5r cause its lighter and if u tune it porperly it will go harder, BUT the dc2r is older which means parts will be harder to find and cost more so its up to you

45SET
26-01-2009, 09:35 PM
Thanks for bring a topic that is almost 3 years old back to life.

There is already about 2 DC2R vs DC5R threads going at the moment

midnightdood
05-02-2009, 11:00 AM
But since its been brought back to life...

One of the finer things in life... a DC2r. (my vote)

Type S Tony
05-02-2009, 11:23 AM
DC5S all the way, can anyone say "torque steer"

Q_ball
05-02-2009, 11:32 AM
Theres another thread on this topic which is more "current".