Thinkin about buying a turbo kit off Ebay??? Read this 1st!!!

[Couper_Trooper]

Hey guys..

Thinking cheap turbo kit?
think again...

im currently in the process off boosting my civic n i recently bought a complete turbo kit off ebay which only cost me $850 shipped to my door... it only took 3 days fedex US to AUS
prior to buying this kit i did some research on pro's n con's of turboing a honda to see what i would be in for..
also the cost involved. but silly me.. i didnt research turbo kits themselves..:(

i then did some research on the kit i just purchased
(*xs power* wasn't stated on item description so beware, you're likely to recieve this brand if no other brand is stated) & now my eyes are watering... lol
no wonder they ship these kits out so fast, they wanna get rid of it... hehehe
all i can do now is cry, lol, roll around in this junk, cry n laugh some more..



someone give me a pq point... it should ease a bit of my pain.. lol


here are some links for those considering on purchasing..

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1323296
(realized no recent comments on this though its all dated 2 yrs ago)


i reckon i could've sold it back on ebay or elsewhere n some poor guy would've bought it.. but its my mistake so i'll accept the consequences..
see how nice i am..
i'll still try it on n give a review on this piece of shit ass kit when i get it running... F@#$ im a dumbass lol:wave: unbelievable


pq point me if this was useful...!
:D

[xenonkuraz]

You can't receive a PQ point yet :P

Anyways, let us know how it goes. I would never go SSS or XSPower.

[hondavti25]

i dont wanna say i told you so but i did, at least it has a brand name lol better then something completly unknown

[jdmlvn]

$850 is alot of money..

[hondavti25]

$850 is alot of money..

but not for a turbo kit get what you pay for. Dude re-sell the kit with out the cooller keep the cooler and get a greddy kit

[tekung89]

dont trip yet, u cant believe everything you read. ebay turbo maybe seiously crappy and i wouldnt use it . i've been told the manifold cracks because it cools down to quick. but im sure if u take care of it things will work out better until u get around to replacing the SS stuff. give it a go and tell us if u break down :)

[FastFwd]

dude used one of these kits as ive said before and there not to bad for a first starter craving some boost...honestly not as bad as some people bag them out to be...yes manifold issue ive had them but not something that cant be fixed......had it for almost two yrs and the only thing im still using that came from the kit was inter cooler piping. sold all the other bits separately for almost as much as i originally bought it for soo all in all i wasn't to upset with buying one of these kits

[hondavti25]

Yeah thats true but look it from a budget point of view. If your budget is low dont go buying shit youll replace in a year because its poor quality youll end up spending more then what you could of if you got the right thing first. DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!

[aaronng]

If you want pics, looks here. The turbine housing cracked into half within 30 miles. Seems that it was held together using epoxy glue!!!

http://www.bblgroup.us/ssautochrome.htm

http://www.bblgroup.us/ssautochrome_files/image002.jpg

[1996ek1]

http://www.bblgroup.us/ssautochrome_files/image002.jpg

Perhaps its just easy access to the compressor side airway ?

[xenonkuraz]

There's a good article in the latest issue of Hot 4's...I'll briefly run through it with those of you who have not had the time to check it out yet:

It seems that branded or not, a lot of turbo's these days are being built in China. It's up to you to decide whether it is worth buying or not; don't blame the market.

Fact: every big turbo brand has a manufacturing plant in China.

Check for:

* VSR (Vibration Sorting Rig)
* A no-leakage guarantee (at a certain supply level)
* Have they ever tested/dyno'd their turbo kits? Ask for a compressor map
* Don't judge the quality of the turbo on its bearing type

[Couper_Trooper]

i dont wanna say i told you so but i did, at least it has a brand name lol better then something completly unknown

i bought the kit b4 getting any advice.. so my fault there..

i'd rather it not have a brand, than typing it up on google n finding out all the shit about it... hehehe (what u dont know, cant hurt u)

that pic of the turbo has the xspower stamp on it...
mine doesn't have it.. looks totally diff.. it was also taken about 2yrs ago...
hopefully the quality is a bit better now.. lol

[dudeling7]

man if i was u, as FstFwd said. Kep it as a starter kit and start replacing stuff as you go alonng. you can always send the turbo to get garrett internals, or jsut buy a new turbo.

you can get the manifold rienforced etc. this is you will be using double you money lol.

i have been researching parts for months now and am building a custom kit to suit what i want cost and power wise. good luck though :)

[b18c_crx]

so have u even tired installin this turbo kit yet?

[Couper_Trooper]

so have u even tired installin this turbo kit yet?


yeh, my friend & i installed it last week..
car still hasn't been tuned,
but will be this wednesday coming up..
been hitting boost daily though n everything seems fine for now.. hehehe

i jumped straight to conclusions when i found out all the negative comments about the turbo kit but its actually holding up alright... so, my bad..:D
the manifold is reinforced better than they were 2 yrs ago...

so far so good..

but for how long?

[hondavti25]

yeah mate good luck with it let us all know how it goes who knows it could be hit and miss and you come out on the lucky end.
What ecu you using

[Couper_Trooper]

was going to go with hondata.. almost certain of it..
in the end got a power fc.. hehehe
things never go as planned for me.. lol

[hondavti25]

how much you get it all for? tune plus the unit

[Couper_Trooper]

how much you get it all for? tune plus the unit

$800 + $600 tune...

i'll prob end up spending close $3500...
so many lil bits n pieces.. all adds up.. *sigh*

starting budget - $2000... budgets never work out do they?.. lol

[aimre]

May aswell use it, Qball used one, sure he didnt make as much power as other turbo b18's and sure he lost a turbo on the dyno, but it still worked

[xenonkuraz]

Lost a turbo on the dyno. Lmao

[Couper_Trooper]

hey

mate im wanting to go on the turbo route though i have limited funds.! and i want to noe how ur turbo kit off ebay is running now? are they worth it to buy so i can hit like 5psi of boost.. just an extra bit more power is all i need. and from there on i can swap the parts??

im wondering how much u have spent on it so far? and what does ur turbo kit inlcude and what else is needed to complete the conversion

cheers

hey buddy,

turbo kit is holding up fine.. not sure how my motor is though.. been driving around for 2 weeks now untuned hitting boost daily..
apparently i've heard its not good 4 my engine.. :plmao

turbo kit is complete with everything u need to get it running.. had to get dump pipe cut n welded d right way cos it didnt fit properly but was a small issue..

here are my costs so far -

turbo kit - $1200 (850 for kit & 350 for welding)
310cc injectors - $100
power fc - $800
tuning - $600
miscellaneous - $300 (dont know what i bought but d money aint in my pocket)
total to date - $3000+

as u can see so far.. its not really cheap as i thought it would be.. more costs keeps adding on.. its crazy dude.. lol

but its been fun driving around..
running 6psi atm
i have 2 wait 4 my injectors 2 come before tuning..

its been stressful, but im hoping it'll be worth it in d end..

prob need a new d16 motor soon as well.. hehehe
-$400 :(

all the stuff i bought is credit card friendly
-2 months interest free- hehehe

hope dat helps

[b18c_crx]

any pic man?

[dc2dc2dc2]

hittin boost daily untuned ! your crazy kid ! crazy i tellz ya

[Lukezen27]

any pic man?


Yeah some pic's would be nice...

[Couper_Trooper]

any pic man?
here are some pics
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165920pslfile8.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27105)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014171758pslfile1.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27107)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165919pslfile7.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27104)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165912pslfile1.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27098)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165914pslfile3.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27100)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165918pslfile6.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27103)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165917pslfile5.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27102)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/members/files/couper_trooper20071014165916pslfile4.jpg (http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/members/showimage.php?dbpic=27101)
why does this site make it hard 2 upload pics? too much hassles...

[Lukezen27]

here are some pics

why does this site make it hard 2 upload pics?

They don't have the space..
You must host them somewhere ells :eek:

How the cheap kit holding up anyway?

[Couper_Trooper]

all good atm.. though, time will tell..

[Lukezen27]

all good atm.. though, time will tell..

Yeah nice one

I guess so..

I went with the more costly strongly built GReddy kit just to be on the save side lol

[b18c_crx]

looks pretty good for $850 kit

[qpe]

looks pretty good for $850 kit

yeh it sure does.. good job dude..
very tempted now.. hehehe

untuned? u got ballz.. lol
let us know when u get it tuned n running right..

btw.. ur car needs more dumpage imo.. it'll look hot few inches more 2 d ground =)

[Couper_Trooper]

dumpage = $$$$
pockets are dry atm... =)

[Lukezen27]

yeh it sure does.. good job dude..
very tempted now.. hehehe

untuned? u got ballz.. lol
let us know when u get it tuned n running right..

btw.. ur car needs more dumpage imo.. it'll look hot few inches more 2 d ground =)

Nothing wrong with the 4W drive look heheh

[tekung89]

yeh some stuff are jus overrated, the kit looks good. tell us how ur kit goes, my bet will be it'll work fine for a few months before anything (hopefully not) will actually happen. looking good

[RedVTi]

all good atm.. though, time will tell..

My XS power turbokit has just arrived and I will install the kit next week. To tell you the truth the pacakge looks impressive and better than expectation. It looks different to yours as my turbo has the XS logo on the housing.

Will keep you all posted with a different thread.

You have done well with your budget mate.

I think mine will end up spending $8-$10K once i added the injectors,forged items and $$$ for a spare turbo in case this crappy XS one flies off and need to replace it with a Garrett.

But I think it is all worth it because our Civics will go F&F ..... on a straight at least..:p

[SirEk1]

850.. looks pretty GOOD.. tell us how it goes once its tuned. i'll get one if it runs good..

[FastFwd]

Guys I bought this exact kit off ebay for my B series almost 2 yrs ago and its been running on my car since then. But i can tell you now anyone even thinking about buying this kit it will not be a Permanent thing. This kit will only help you start a turbo conversion along the way over the next two yrs you will need to replace parts. Finally after two yrs I have replaced everything, the only thing left i needed to change was Exhaust manifold and turbo which i will most probably complete This afternoon (gt28rs here we come)

If i was to do it all again. I would have bought this kit, sold the turbo online Brand new. straight away would have bought a GT28/GT28RS/GR2871R got a Exhaust shop to re weld + reinforce the xs manifold and it would have lasted 2 yrs without any problems.

Also few other things are... This inter cooler that comes with the kit in the pictures is too small, you think it will do the job but it wont.I had this cooler on my car and Intake air on this cooler gave me about 49 degree's average. i got my new one on now which u can see in the Avatar and it dropped it to 29 degree's average. Which is a Huge fekin drop...

Another thing the Blue Silicone Cooler connectors aren't as strong as they look when u first buy them. they deteriorate very easily.

As i have told people on here before i think this kit is great and isnt as bad as people think it is. When i bought my kit for 1300 delivered the only thing that didn't work straight off was the BOV as it was leaking otherwise everything worked great for almost 6 months. Deffinatly taught me heaps about turboin cars i can tell u that. But i think for reliability reasons and now that i have the cash i most probably would have gone for a Greddy kit or i would have put together a kit from scratch. Back then i had a few spare dollars and thought it was fun to put a turbo kit on my car but really over the last few yrs ive had alot of times the car has come off the road because of the STUPID EXHAUST MANIFOLD FAILING!! FFS sorry bit of a vent.

anyways if you need any help on this kit. PM me

[RedVTi]

Guys I bought this exact kit off ebay for my B series almost 2 yrs ago and its been running on my car since then. But i can tell you now anyone even thinking about buying this kit it will not be a Permanent thing. This kit will only help you start a turbo conversion along the way over the next two yrs you will need to replace parts. Finally after two yrs I have replaced everything, the only thing left i needed to change was Exhaust manifold and turbo which i will most probably complete This afternoon (gt28rs here we come)

If i was to do it all again. I would have bought this kit, sold the turbo online Brand new. straight away would have bought a GT28/GT28RS/GR2871R got a Exhaust shop to re weld + reinforce the xs manifold and it would have lasted 2 yrs without any problems.

Also few other things are... This inter cooler that comes with the kit in the pictures is too small, you think it will do the job but it wont.I had this cooler on my car and Intake air on this cooler gave me about 49 degree's average. i got my new one on now which u can see in the Avatar and it dropped it to 29 degree's average. Which is a Huge fekin drop...

Another thing the Blue Silicone Cooler connectors aren't as strong as they look when u first buy them. they deteriorate very easily.

As i have told people on here before i think this kit is great and isnt as bad as people think it is. When i bought my kit for 1300 delivered the only thing that didn't work straight off was the BOV as it was leaking otherwise everything worked great for almost 6 months. Deffinatly taught me heaps about turboin cars i can tell u that. But i think for reliability reasons and now that i have the cash i most probably would have gone for a Greddy kit or i would have put together a kit from scratch. Back then i had a few spare dollars and thought it was fun to put a turbo kit on my car but really over the last few yrs ive had alot of times the car has come off the road because of the STUPID EXHAUST MANIFOLD FAILING!! FFS sorry bit of a vent.

anyways if you need any help on this kit. PM me

Judging from what I can see, i agree that eventually most of the stuff will needed to be replaced eventually.

The Bov looks ridiculous and the T3/T4 turbo 0.40 spec may be too laggy.

Anyway I will use what come with the kit and replace them when they fall apart. As long as there is no safety issue.

I will definitely use branded piggy back computer and fuel regulator, and also constuct a mounting bracket to hold up the turbo and dump pipe to reduce stress on the manifold.

so far i have spent $1800 on this experimmental kit, the piggy back Apex AFC Neo and a Xforce high flow cat.

I expect to spend another $8K over time to get the power level up and keep it reliable. Not sure if this budget enough?

Right now i am very excited and can't wait to turbo my civic. Wish me luck.

Below are what are included in the kit. Have fun viewing.

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[FastFwd]

RedVTI the mounting bracket your talking about doing wont work. Spoken to my welder and its actually not the stress of the turbo hanging of the manifold. its actually the size of the metal where all four ram horn pipes meet in the middle. The thickness is only 1.5mm where it should be 3.0mm. The ram horn pipes are 2mm and ive never had problems with them. the problems occur toward the bottom near the turbo flange either in the welding or in the actual metal. I made a chassis reenforcement in the beginning and it didnt make any difference. the best thing to do will be to buy a new 4 to 1 exhaust pipe (same as the one on there atm) but in 3.0mm cut the old turbo flange plate of the old one weld it onto the new one and weld the new 4 to 1 pipe onto the meeting joint of all four pipes. Soo pretty much just replace the 4 into 1 pipe from the 1.5mm to the 3mm. also where the waste gate comes out of the manifold that little pipe will need to be reinforced as the hang weight of the Gate will cause the 1.5mm pipe to crack.

Also make sure you dont use the Gaskets they give you...they only lasted me bout 3 months.

But honestly guys i don't know how much PSI these kits can take...i was only running 7psi and i had problems, my internals could run up to 24psi but i never took it that far because i was afraid of other things braking on the turbo kit..

[RedVTi]

RedVTI the mounting bracket your talking about doing wont work. Spoken to my welder and its actually not the stress of the turbo hanging of the manifold. its actually the size of the metal where all four ram horn pipes meet in the middle. The thickness is only 1.5mm where it should be 3.0mm. The ram horn pipes are 2mm and ive never had problems with them. the problems occur toward the bottom near the turbo flange either in the welding or in the actual metal. I made a chassis reenforcement in the beginning and it didnt make any difference. the best thing to do will be to buy a new 4 to 1 exhaust pipe (same as the one on there atm) but in 3.0mm cut the old turbo flange plate of the old one weld it onto the new one and weld the new 4 to 1 pipe onto the meeting joint of all four pipes. Soo pretty much just replace the 4 into 1 pipe from the 1.5mm to the 3mm. also where the waste gate comes out of the manifold that little pipe will need to be reinforced as the hang weight of the Gate will cause the 1.5mm pipe to crack.

Also make sure you dont use the Gaskets they give you...they only lasted me bout 3 months.

But honestly guys i don't know how much PSI these kits can take...i was only running 7psi and i had problems, my internals could run up to 24psi but i never took it that far because i was afraid of other things braking on the turbo kit..

Thanks for the advise buddy. At this stage I haven't put my hopes up yet so i am just going along so see what happens.

It seems all the kits which we received in OZ have different bits and pieces and we all need to make different adjustments. The problems which i am about to face will probably be different to yours.

I am glad to know we can share the experiences here.

Did you see how cheap it is to buy a turbo-ready civic in US? I make me want to cry. The money we spent doing it here will be enough to buy a 10sec civic/crx over there. Ahh........

[FastFwd]

i know its bullshit hey...but then again its like people over here with silvia's Dime a dosen and soo much cheap stuff for them to make them low 12's without internals - just bolt on. I got an s15 aswell...cooler, turbo back, manifold, bb turbo boost controller low 12's

[RedVTi]

i know its bullshit hey...but then again its like people over here with silvia's Dime a dosen and soo much cheap stuff for them to make them low 12's without internals - just bolt on. I got an s15 aswell...cooler, turbo back, manifold, bb turbo boost controller low 12's

Funny you said that. I have sold my s15 and bought a S13( i like 5 spd) and it is sitting in my garage. I just thought i would be more satisfying to do up a honda since there are already so many Nissan turbos in this country. If i put the budget on the S13 instead of the civic then it will reach 12sec with all the bolt-on available. But then where is the satisfication?? Isn't it why you still keep your honda?

[Lukezen27]

Just got my kit installed on only 5psi coze I was missing one reducer :thumbdwn:

But at only 5psi it ****ing boots :thumbsup: I'm in love

[RedVTi]

Just got my kit installed on only 5psi coze I was missing one reducer :thumbdwn:

But at only 5psi it ****ing boots :thumbsup: I'm in love

Pics and spec info would help. I have been told 6-7psi is still good with stock injectors and pump.

Good for mate:cool: I am not in love yet because the parts are still sitting around:(

[Lukezen27]

Pics and spec info would help. I have been told 6-7psi is still good with stock injectors and pump.

Good for mate:cool: I am not in love yet because the parts are still sitting around:(

D16Y1 (SOHC VTec) + GReddy Stock kit (no intercooler on injectors or pump)

5psi stock Stock GReddy setup = huge difference IMO but can't wait for 7psi though once my intercooler missing bits arrive..

You don't need injectors or pump for 7psi so I'm told.. I know the stock pump is rated to something like 250HP anyway

[FastFwd]

Funny you said that. I have sold my s15 and bought a S13( i like 5 spd) and it is sitting in my garage. I just thought i would be more satisfying to do up a honda since there are already so many Nissan turbos in this country. If i put the budget on the S13 instead of the civic then it will reach 12sec with all the bolt-on available. But then where is the satisfication?? Isn't it why you still keep your honda?

Firstly i love honda's. Used to be sponsored by Honda Racing Australia when i did Motocross. so i bought a Honda car but now i keep it because i love having Turbo Vtec....soo awesome....!

[FastFwd]

D16Y1 (SOHC VTec) + GReddy Stock kit (no intercooler on injectors or pump)

5psi stock Stock GReddy setup = huge difference IMO but can't wait for 7psi though once my intercooler missing bits arrive..

You don't need injectors or pump for 7psi so I'm told.. I know the stock pump is rated to something like 250HP anyway

Not runnin a intercooler? risky...!!

[aaronng]

D16Y1 (SOHC VTec) + GReddy Stock kit (no intercooler on injectors or pump)

5psi stock Stock GReddy setup = huge difference IMO but can't wait for 7psi though once my intercooler missing bits arrive..

You don't need injectors or pump for 7psi so I'm told.. I know the stock pump is rated to something like 250HP anyway

So what are your A/F ratios like now?

[Couper_Trooper]

so much F@#%#$ headaches... arrgghhh..

my car was suppose to be tuned 3 weeks ago!!!!
every week there seems to be a problem with my car..
yesterday i had to take my whole manifold + turbo out to stop an oil leak..
i worked on it from 9-5pm.. after everything was put back together
the oil feed line got twisted somehow n oil was spilling out everywhere!!!
i fix one problem sumfin else pops up... f@#$!!
had 2 spend another $80 when i didnt even need 2..wtf!!

everything is fine now.. sorry, i too needed to vent..

Turboing a honda is not a walk in the park from what im experiencing...
i've had it up 2 my neck wit all d probs i've came across..
& whats more frightening is dat dis is only the begining!!

at least im learning in the process like 'FSTFWD' said..

the kit i bought off ebay didnt come wit d right fittings so i had 2 get some new one.. found a place in seven hills 'motorsportconnections' dat hooked me up wit d right ones.. if u need turbo fittings, they will have them..

anyways, i booked my car in 4 tuning on sat... hopefully i can pay my $600 bux & get on wit my life..:p

[Lukezen27]

Not runnin a intercooler? risky...!!

Why?

that kit was disigned to run 5 pis without intercooler..


So what are your A/F ratios like now?

whatever e-management set to, all seems good, not smoke or anything and the motor sounds smooth…

Its under tuned anyway coze of the Yanks bad GAS 89Oc or something like that.

[FastFwd]

Why?

that kit was disigned to run 5 pis without intercooler..



whatever e-management set to, all seems good, not smoke or anything and the motor sounds smooth…

Its under tuned anyway coze of the Yanks bad GAS 89Oc or something like that.

well its possible and it can be done that way but i wouldnt really trust it...honda's are hot engine in general. i dont think pushing an originally NA car with a turbo and not giving it that extra cool will be good. Sometimes its better to be safe than sorry i guess.

[JasonGilholme]

I also doubt that the kit was "designed" to be ran without an intercooler.

Someone probably just said that it would be "ok" without one so they decided to knock em off cheaper without the cooler. lol

IMO, do it right the first time. :thumbsup:

[FastFwd]

so much F@#%#$ headaches... arrgghhh..

my car was suppose to be tuned 3 weeks ago!!!!
every week there seems to be a problem with my car..
yesterday i had to take my whole manifold + turbo out to stop an oil leak..
i worked on it from 9-5pm.. after everything was put back together
the oil feed line got twisted somehow n oil was spilling out everywhere!!!
i fix one problem sumfin else pops up... f@#$!!
had 2 spend another $80 when i didnt even need 2..wtf!!

everything is fine now.. sorry, i too needed to vent..

Turboing a honda is not a walk in the park from what im experiencing...
i've had it up 2 my neck wit all d probs i've came across..
& whats more frightening is dat dis is only the begining!!

at least im learning in the process like 'FSTFWD' said..

the kit i bought off ebay didnt come wit d right fittings so i had 2 get some new one.. found a place in seven hills 'motorsportconnections' dat hooked me up wit d right ones.. if u need turbo fittings, they will have them..

anyways, i booked my car in 4 tuning on sat... hopefully i can pay my $600 bux & get on wit my life..:p

sorry to sound so negative bro but you will run into alot more problems...i think that was the first problem i had...oil leek!! when i got the kit for some reason they gave me like 5 million oil line fittings which i have seriously a bucket at home half full with left overs. dont rest the braided oil line up against heat btw...yeh looks like a braided line but its not internal Teflon like normal braided oil lines. its just rubber. so it will easily melt.....

anyways i have a feeling the next thing that will need replacing is one of the gaskets. on either the turbo, wastegate or dump. that was my next thing....then the welds on the turbo manifold.

i think those kits are just an overall kit for all cars and makes...but if you request for a CIVIC they will give you the manifold and intercooler piping just to change the kit specific for your car...otherwise for Nissan or toyota they seem very similar....thats why they give u like Every single connection so it makes it easier for them to not have complaints for missing parts. Mind you i had my screamer pipe missing. but its not like im going to Call US and be like Hey u didnt send me the screamer pipe...

dont worry tho dude once u got all the problems sorted u will be happy u only spent $800 to start with...but in 2 yrs time u will think to urself...why didnt i just wait and spend $2000...

[Lukezen27]

sorry to sound so negative bro but you will run into alot more problems...i think that was the first problem i had...oil leek!! when i got the kit for some reason they gave me like 5 million oil line fittings which i have seriously a bucket at home half full with left overs. dont rest the braided oil line up against heat btw...yeh looks like a braided line but its not internal Teflon like normal braided oil lines. its just rubber. so it will easily melt.....

anyways i have a feeling the next thing that will need replacing is one of the gaskets. on either the turbo, wastegate or dump. that was my next thing....then the welds on the turbo manifold.

i think those kits are just an overall kit for all cars and makes...but if you request for a CIVIC they will give you the manifold and intercooler piping just to change the kit specific for your car...otherwise for Nissan or toyota they seem very similar....thats why they give u like Every single connection so it makes it easier for them to not have complaints for missing parts. Mind you i had my screamer pipe missing. but its not like im going to Call US and be like Hey u didnt send me the screamer pipe...

dont worry tho dude once u got all the problems sorted u will be happy u only spent $800 to start with...but in 2 yrs time u will think to urself...why didnt i just wait and spend $2000...

I must say the $2080 GReddy Kits very well built :thumbsup:

I'm happy with the extra cash I paid for pice of mind..

Not one leak as yet..


well its possible and it can be done that way but i wouldnt really trust it...honda's are hot engine in general. i dont think pushing an originally NA car with a turbo and not giving it that extra cool will be good. Sometimes its better to be safe than sorry i guess.

One week only then she's be installed :)


I also doubt that the kit was "designed" to be ran without an intercooler.

Someone probably just said that it would be "ok" without one so they decided to knock em off cheaper without the cooler. lol

IMO, do it right the first time. :thumbsup:

Yeah it is!!

Intercooler is an upgrade option offered by GReeddy but not included in there stock kit but still states there safe.. should only be a week or two till she's installed anyway

[RedVTi]

Stay postive dude. Once you can beat those Nissan Skylines off the mark. Those pain and $$$ will be forgotten.

At least until the next visa bill arrives and shown all the PAYPAL purchases ......:p

Anyway, I think this is still more fun than buying the new Civic Type-R with $40K+.

[Couper_Trooper]

sorry to sound so negative bro but you will run into alot more problems...


yeh i know.. :(
i've learnt so much in the process though which is good
because a few months ago if sum1 asked me anything to do wit my car..
i'd be like "huh? wtf? what are u talkin abt" hehehe
now i can install a turbo kit by myself..

its not really hard installing a turbo as i thought..
jst alot of fiddling around & sourcing out all parts u need..

when i run into more trouble n get stuck..
i'll pm u 4 some help.. i still have much 2 learn..

[qpe]

I must say the $2080 GReddy Kits very well built :thumbsup:

I'm happy with the extra cash I paid for pice of mind..
Not one leak as yet..

One week only then she's be installed :)
Yeah it is!!

Intercooler is an upgrade option offered by GReeddy but not included in there stock kit but still states there safe.. should only be a week or two till she's installed anyway

ok ok, we all know u love ur greddy kit..

but u jst gotta take the advice from ppl who've had more experience than u..
try n be more open minded about things.. everyone here's just trying to help..:p

[Lukezen27]

ok ok, we all know u love ur greddy kit..

but u jst gotta take the advice from ppl who've had more experience than u..
try n be more open minded about things.. everyone here's just trying to help..:p

lol no problems but I have the intercooler just not the right size reducer dam it lol

I'll be out this weekend looking for one, 2.5" to 2"

[Couper_Trooper]

Stay postive dude. Once you can beat those Nissan Skylines off the mark. Those pain and $$$ will be forgotten.

At least until the next visa bill arrives and shown all the PAYPAL purchases ......:p

Anyway, I think this is still more fun than buying the new Civic Type-R with $40K+.

lol...
more frustration than anything else..

not quite sure how much i've spent so far but its well n truly over d 3g mark
only owe i think abt $1200? now..
want to cut back on spending but so much things i wanna get..
rims, coilover, struts... on & on & on lol

anyways goodluck with ur turbokit..
u installing urself?..

[Lukezen27]

lol...
more frustration than anything else..

not quite sure how much i've spent so far but its well n truly over d 3g mark
only owe i think abt $1200? now..
want to cut back on spending but so much things i wanna get..
rims, coilover, struts... on & on & on lol

anyways goodluck with ur turbokit..
u installing urself?..

lol I know the feeling..

3k was my cup to stop myself from going out of control :p

$2080 Kit
$650 install
$192 FMIC piping
$150 FMIC
$50 Extra Silicone Turbo Hose and I missed the most important one :(

$3122

$122 over and I still want injectors and pump (Maybe)

You turn round and BAM saving gone :eek:

[aimre]

ok ok, we all know u love ur greddy kit..

but u jst gotta take the advice from ppl who've had more experience than u..
try n be more open minded about things.. everyone here's just trying to help..:p


Ok, take sum advice from people who HAVE had experiences.

No cooler, 5psi is sweet.

Last time OH tried to tell someone they must used a cooler, they got skooled by me and weq. But no one seems to learn......

Thats why this site is so useless for anything other than a b16.



So what are your A/F ratios like now?


They run pretty rich with factory settings

[FastFwd]

ahh guys chillax.....

its all good couper trooper...soon enough all the bills will be gone and u will stand next to your car and think I DID THAT.....

i mean i did the same and i only had basic car knowledge, now i change my own clutches, suspension, ENGINE's, turbo's pretty much everything...i don't even think about going to a performance shop unless its for parts of tuning because i wouldnt want to touch that... ohh btw dude check out my conversion from the XS power turbo to my new gt28rs...

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/DSC03071.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/DSC03069.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/DSC03067.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/DSC03061.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/DSC03060.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/DSC03057.jpg

and a quick vid of some DI DI DOOO noise...love bb turbo's

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/th_MOV03064.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/?action=view&current=MOV03064.flv)

[Lukezen27]

ahh guys chillax.....

its all good couper trooper...soon enough all the bills will be gone and u will stand next to your car and think I DID THAT.....

i mean i did the same and i only had basic car knowledge, now i change my own clutches, suspension, ENGINE's, turbo's pretty much everything...i don't even think about going to a performance shop unless its for parts of tuning because i wouldnt want to touch that... ohh btw dude check out my conversion from the XS power turbo to my new gt28rs...





and a quick vid of some DI DI DOOO noise...love bb turbo's



Nice apart from it being a DOHC :p

[FastFwd]

Nice apart from it being a DOHC :p


dont be a hater!! honda's a honda i got love for all honda's :)

[Lukezen27]

dont be a hater!! honda's a honda i got love for all honda's :)

Yeah I know but I love f++king with you DOHCers lol

[FastFwd]

ahh its all good i know u playin i got turbo internal setup anyways soo no high comp for me....plus my gf lets me drive her supercharged sohc vtec most of the time

[Lukezen27]

ahh its all good i know u playin i got turbo internal setup anyways soo no high comp for me....plus my gf lets me drive her supercharged sohc vtec most of the time

WTF supercharged sohc vtec

Elec supercharger?

[FastFwd]

WTF supercharged sohc vtec

Elec supercharger?

dunno to be honest..she bought it like that few months back...havent had a chance to work on it yet to find out....doin a oil change next week, gonna inspect. needs a tune bad...

[aimre]

http://www.superchargeronline.com/product_detail.asp?partnumber=JAC-989-000&tabactive=1

[Lukezen27]

dunno to be honest..she bought it like that few months back...havent had a chance to work on it yet to find out....doin a oil change next week, gonna inspect. needs a tune bad...

Would not be anywhere near as efficient as a turbo?

Steels power from the crank, that’s why smaller engine’s don’t use them much?


http://www.superchargeronline.com/product_detail.asp?partnumber=JAC-989-000&tabactive=1


Oh IC

Thanks Alex

[FastFwd]

Yeh it looks exactly like that...not jackson racing though. Yeh holds no where near the punch but it would chop a NA DOHC with some mods. Decent daily driver tho, the power is always equal in the Rev range - nice n smooth.

[Couper_Trooper]

ahh guys chillax.....

its all good couper trooper...soon enough all the bills will be gone and u will stand next to your car and think I DID THAT.....

i mean i did the same and i only had basic car knowledge, now i change my own clutches, suspension, ENGINE's, turbo's pretty much everything...i don't even think about going to a performance shop unless its for parts of tuning because i wouldnt want to touch that... ohh btw dude check out my conversion from the XS power turbo to my new gt28rs...

and a quick vid of some DI DI DOOO noise...love bb turbo's

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/th_MOV03064.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/?action=view&current=MOV03064.flv)

dammn nice looking setup:thumbsup:.. how much u pulling atw?

[tekung89]

gotta love the trouble u run into :P its jus good fun coz once u solve it , thats some real experience u can share. loving the d-series turbo'd. but i have a slight oil leak atm that i gotta fix from the sump and the part of the block where i tapped my feed line. after thats fixed, its time to up the boost to 7psi =D

[Lukezen27]

gotta love the trouble u run into :P its jus good fun coz once u solve it , thats some real experience u can share. loving the d-series turbo'd. but i have a slight oil leak atm that i gotta fix from the sump and the part of the block where i tapped my feed line. after thats fixed, its time to up the boost to 7psi =D

Man I'm so hanging to hit 7psi :thumbsup:

what are you on now?

[tekung89]

first i started running 4psi, then i went to 5, now 6psi for 3months? and now i jus wanna run 7psi which is what i would get if i connected the hose from the actuator to the turbo after my oil leak is fix that is. i tell ya these lil d-series-t are fast.
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[FastFwd]

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tekung89
gotta love the trouble u run into :P its jus good fun coz once u solve it , thats some real experience u can share. loving the d-series turbo'd. but i have a slight oil leak atm that i gotta fix from the sump and the part of the block where i tapped my feed line. after thats fixed, its time to up the boost to 7psi =D

btw dude i had exactly the same problem and the leek persisted so what i did was got a welder to weld the copper oil line fitting into the sump and now its soo solid and hasnt leeked once. most exhaust joints will do it for around 10-20 dollars if you take it off and give it to them. but they have to have an oxy welder of coarse for the copper.

[tekung89]

=D hehe woops i mean that my oil sump is leaking from the seals. im not sure if the seals are worn out? if that possible or if the old man jus ddnt use enough of that black sealant silicon thing. he only put a tiny bit and spreaded it along the seal as though he was spreading butter lol there was hardly any of it. he said the seals do the job from keeping the oil in, not the silicon. but heck i mean more silicon wouldnt hurt?. im gona unbolt my sump and re-silicon it =)

[Killa From Manila]

dont quote me on this but it mite be better to get a new sump gasket as some of the silicon sealants may melt from the heat of ur turbo n manifold

[eg_h22a]

when you gonna race me NAM lol guess who LOL gl with the car not blowing up on yah shoulda went B18CR like we told yah and got a bys

[Couper_Trooper]

when you gonna race me NAM lol guess who LOL gl with the car not blowing up on yah shoulda went B18CR like we told yah and got a bys

hey son...
lol... dont think i can make it up 2 bris yet..

man.. i left my car to get tuned yesterday... n today they told me they couldnt get the software!! wtf! im getting tired with all this crap.. i jst want 2 tune my car already!! :confused:

[Lukezen27]

hey son...
lol... dont think i can make it up 2 bris yet..

man.. i left my car to get tuned yesterday... n today they told me they couldnt get the software!! wtf! im getting tired with all this crap.. i jst want 2 tune my car already!! :confused:

what software do you need?

what brand ECU?

[eg_h22a]

even if you get it tuned it will only keep up to b16a lol just kiddin TOLD YAH now u gotta buy a BYS it will make you feel better lol
lucky coz you would prolly die from the heat up here anyways LOL

[Lukezen27]

even if you get it tuned it will only keep up to b16a lol just kiddin TOLD YAH now u gotta buy a BYS it will make you feel better lol
lucky coz you would prolly die from the heat up here anyways LOL

lol yeah good luck to ya :p

I'm only on 5psi and the pull's awesome compared :wave:

Went out Boosting all day todays and was so much fun

Wait till 10pis and VTec is working :thumbsup:

[1996ek1]

lol yeah good luck to ya :p

I'm only on 5psi and the pull's awesome compared :wave:

Went out Boosting all day todays and was so much fun

Wait till 10pis and VTec is working :thumbsup:

10psi? shit last time it was 6, then it was 7, now 10. Lol....

[Lukezen27]

10psi? shit last time it was 6, then it was 7, now 10. Lol....

Its called greed lol

It will be more than likely be 8ish but will see.

I had a good talk to Adrian for TODA the other day so will see heheh

The rods start breaking at about 15psi so 10psi is doable with good tune no problems.. but then I have to fork out for bigger injectors $$$$$$$$$$$$

Got my boost gauge going and I'm only running about 4.5ish never saw it hit 5psi all day unless my gauge is a bit off...

[1996ek1]

Its called greed lol

It will be more than likely be 8ish but will see.

I had a good talk to Adrian for TODA the other day so will see heheh

The rods start breaking at about 15psi so 10psi is doable with good tune no problems.. but then I have to fork out for bigger injectors $$$$$$$$$$$$

Got my boost gauge going and I'm only running about 4.5ish never saw it hit 5psi all day unless my gauge is a bit off...



Oh i just remembered you have a greddy kit, i was thinking you had the XS power, and i just thought i wouldnt push that junk to 10psi.... =) (altho its a good starter kit)

[Lukezen27]

Oh i just remembered you have a greddy kit, i was thinking you had the XS power, and i just thought i wouldnt push that junk to 10psi.... =) (altho its a good starter kit)

lol the GReddy kit will do way passed what my motor can do :p

[Couper_Trooper]

Car is FINALLY...!! tuned...!!!

adrenalin still pumpin..
smile is still on my face while typing this..
i think im in love again!! lmao.. hehehe

[Lukezen27]

Car is FINALLY...!! tuned...!!!

adrenalin still pumpin..
smile is still on my face while typing this..
i think im in love again!! lmao.. hehehe

Dude

I LOVE BOOST

Never going back to the light side again!!! :D

What psi you on and what's she making at the wheels?

[Couper_Trooper]

running 6psi.. i was pleasantly surprised :eek::thumbsup:
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd316/coupertrooper/Dynograph-1.jpg

[Lukezen27]

very nice :thumbsup:

[Couper_Trooper]

thanx..
still hav so much to do though..
but in the meantime..
im gonna hav as much fun as i can til i run into more probs..

[Sexc86]

WTF !! 132 WKW?? man what engine you got again.... d16y8? fark thats impressive...

[tekung89]

wow .1 of a litre more then me in engine wise, and running the same psi as me. and ur pulling 132kw atws? thats very impresssive to see what a tune can do. then again that cost almost as much as ur turbo kit :P good job buddy now ur able to race them k20 civics

wasnt there a B series turbo setup that ran jus a tad bit more kw's than this? once again man , great numbers

[teg94]

shit, thats some good numbers u got there...are u using apexi power fc??? and who tuned the car for u?? sry if already mentioned.

[hondavti25]

Far out man considering how cheap your kits been these numbers look awesome. Congrats!

[Couper_Trooper]

shit, thats some good numbers u got there...are u using apexi power fc??? and who tuned the car for u?? sry if already mentioned.

yeh im running power fc... pm me for tuners detail..

could've got more power if i got a few more necessary parts.. but i couldnt wait any longer.. more than happy with the end result..

im sure everyones keen on knowing how long this setup will last..
dont worry if anything happens, u guys will be the 1st to know.. hehehe :D

[SirEk1]

WOW! congrats on the numbers mate! im gonna get one soon HAHA =]]

[FastFwd]

shit dude...i got b16a2 with many dollars spent on the motor and im running like 230hp at the front wheels on 6.5-7psi i don't know what that is converted to KW but that isn't that far off man.

Wait is that at the Flywheel? or fronts?

either way dude very impressed. awesome good work!!!

[Lukezen27]

shit dude...i got b16a2 with many dollars spent on the motor and im running like 230hp at the front wheels on 6.5-7psi i don't know what that is converted to KW but that isn't that far off man.

Wait is that at the Flywheel? or fronts?

either way dude very impressed. awesome good work!!!

FastFwd
171.511 Kw

Its about 170 at the fly for Couper_Trooper (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?u=15539)

So that means FastFwd has about only 25% more power then Couper_Trooper (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?u=15539)

Now thats amazing IMO

[Couper_Trooper]

anyways i have a feeling the next thing that will need replacing is one of the gaskets. on either the turbo, wastegate or dump. that was my next thing....then the welds on the turbo manifold.


Also make sure you dont use the Gaskets they give you...they only lasted me bout 3 months

bloody psychic.. predicted my future..., lol hehehe

yep.. another gasket gooone on d turbo...
fark:eek:... 1 day after tune n problems have begun...

if ur gonna buy an ebay kit.. REPLACE GASKETS!!! as FastFwd says!!:thumbsup:

are u predicting my manifolds gonna crack next?

coz i had a funny dream last nite (yep abt my car) i was looking at d manifold n there was a small hole opening up... lol

should i be worried?:confused:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

good to see someone testing the cheap stuff. Mind due some things from ebay are great!

props to you. but things like turbo setups id wanna spend abit more for the better stuff so less hassles down the track.

[FastFwd]

bloody psycic.. predicted my future..., lol hehehe

yep.. another gasket gooone on d turbo...
fark:eek:... 1 day after tune n problems have begun...

if ur gonna buy an ebay kit.. REPLACE GASKETS!!! as FastFwd says!!:thumbsup:

are u predicting my manifolds gonna crack next?

coz i had a funny dream last nite (yep abt my car) i was looking at d manifold n there was a small hole opening up... lol

should i be worried?:confused:


bro remember i said it already

1st: oil leek
2nd: Gaskets (thats why i said don't use theres)
3rd: manifold...
4th Manfold
5th: manifold
6th:manifold
7th: wastegate sticking
8th: manifold.

all those times i had the manifold rewelded and fixed...god i felt like throwing it against the wall...In the end i ended up getting the exhaust flange cut off and the turbo flange cut off the manifold, got them machined and then got my mate to remake the ramhorn manifold into the same style as the last but using 3mm stainless tubing not like that shit crap which i think was 1.5mm or something.

Its been on the car for a week now and no probs but i think i might be getting a slight leek out my turbo flange, one of the bolts ****ed up soo i think in a week or so im taking the manifold off again and welding bolts to the manifold so i just have to put anti-loose nuts on the turbo side so these things dont come loose again. 3 times ive had this problem, its cos the turbo and all the assembly hangs off that turbo flange soo over bumps and crap all the time it comes loose no matter how tight you do it.

Ahh bro trust me you will know soo much about these ebay kits when u get to my point...from ur point right now you will have alot of fun with it for like 6 months or maybe little more then u start deciding to swap this part for a namebrander...and slowely slowely you will get to where im at where i dont have anything from the original kit.

I think i told you, i made a Ebay kit Install manual guide. bout 25 pages with pictures and what to do and what not do to n stuff.

[Couper_Trooper]

Fixed the leak...

found out it wasnt the gasket but from the fitting after closer inpection...
went n got another fitting all good...

4 all ur turbo fiiting needs motorsportconnections

i did hav 2 replace the gasket on the turbo before my tune coz they jst seem 2 disintegrate...

anyways been pushin my car like crazy... trying 2 empty my tank which was filled wit 96premium petrol from a no-name petrol station.. had 2 refill urgently coz was on empty after tune...
dont know why i filled a full tank for.. lol
cant wait 2 fill her up wit bp ultimate..:thumbsup:
270km & still half tank left.. now thats crazy...:D

[Couper_Trooper]

I think i told you, i made a Ebay kit Install manual guide. bout 25 pages with pictures and what to do and what not do to n stuff.

nope 1st time i've heard of it.. would've of been useful though...
oh wells all good for now..

would be helpful for those thinkin abt getting one of these kit.. should put it up somwhere if u hav the time..

[Lukezen27]

270km & still half tank left.. now thats crazy...:D

I'm in da middle of doing that same test with a full tank of BP 98 Oc...

[Couper_Trooper]

I'm in da middle of doing that same test with a full tank of BP 98 Oc...

nah... not testing which petrol is more efficient or anything.. im just trying 2 waste d shitty petrol in d tank atm, but its taking forever..

my preferred choice BP Ultimate:thumbsup:

[Sexc86]

awsome stuff man!! can you get some vids up soon? of some 1st and 2nd pulls / launches?

[Lukezen27]

nah... not testing which petrol is more efficient or anything.. im just trying 2 waste d shitty petrol in d tank atm, but its taking forever..

my preferred choice BP Ultimate:thumbsup:

Na I'm testing how many k's I get per tank now I'm boosted :thumbsup:

[aimre]

Na I'm testing how many k's I get per tank now I'm boosted :thumbsup:

~9-12 L/100

[FastFwd]

dude get one of these up...see the diff between the dohc to sohc would be decent to view

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/th_FastfwdDampStart.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/?action=view&current=FastfwdDampStart.flv)

[Couper_Trooper]

havnt tried launching this thing yet...
need 2 upgrade clutch.. but i'll giv it a go anyways..

[Sexc86]

do it do it! shoot a few gear pulls and show us :D

[Lukezen27]

havnt tried launching this thing yet...
need 2 upgrade clutch.. but i'll giv it a go anyways..

I got the brand Xextreme clutch rated to 250KW great one if you looking to upgrade...

Feels like stock to push but bites like hell when you need it :thumbsup:

Your stock clutch won't last long at 132WKW lol

[FastFwd]

i bought a fidanza 330hp rated clutch and 3.7kg flywheel and my clutch slips like a bitch sometimes. cant just slam it..

[Lukezen27]

i bought a fidanza 330hp rated clutch and 3.7kg flywheel and my clutch slips like a bitch sometimes. cant just slam it..

Same rating 330HP = 250KW and yeah I've got a 3.8kg Flywheel :thumbsup:

Ouch slips, is that normal for that brand?

[destrukshn]

got a carbon kevlar competition clutch rated at 300hp at the treads.
with a 3.9kg lightened flywheel, after i demolished a exedy heavy duty organic clutch.
never skipped a beat, abosolutly love it.
lol.

[FastFwd]

Lukezen27
Same rating 330HP = 250KW and yeah I've got a 3.8kg Flywheel

Ouch slips, is that normal for that brand?

Nahh good brad but it only really does from the change from 2nd to 3rd when pushing it. and sometimes when slamming it otherwise its ok.


destrukshn
got a carbon kevlar competition clutch rated at 300hp at the treads.
with a 3.9kg lightened flywheel, after i demolished a exedy heavy duty organic clutch.
never skipped a beat, abosolutly love it.

lol.
How much the clutch set you back?

[Couper_Trooper]

got a carbon kevlar competition clutch rated at 300hp at the treads.
with a 3.9kg lightened flywheel, after i demolished a exedy heavy duty organic clutch.
never skipped a beat, abosolutly love it.
lol.

yeh.. price would be good..
looks like next upgrade will be clutch...
dont hav d money 4 it now tho...
so i'll have 2 be good 2 my standard clutch 4 now.. heheh

went 4 a drive b4 n man... wheel spinning to d max.. lol
cant get any traction in dis wet weather...
fun tho... hahaha