EP3 Type R

[typercivic]

50 litre tank, whenever i fill up it only takes about 45 max.

Been getting about 400 - 450 per tank

[ekhybrid]

could it possibly be a 50+ litre tank? i filled up wen the light just popped on and i could dump in 47litres.
surely the light not gonna warn me wen ive only got 5-3litres in the tank? lol
last couple of tanks ive been getting just over 500kms

[typercivic]

mmm all the manuals and specs say 50 litres but have heard otherwise from ppl's experiences.

I can usually go another 60 odd k's after fuel light has come on and it still only takes about 45 litres so who knows really.

In terms of per tank.... i drive the car mmm hard should we say lol

[ekhybrid]

hahaha its a lovely car

[Philip Lee]

still on my first full tank so i dunno lol.

[typercivic]

anyone put a different front sway bar on their car yet? i'm looking at neuspeed front and rear at the moment. any feedback?

[kongfu]

anyone put a different front sway bar on their car yet? i'm looking at neuspeed front and rear at the moment. any feedback?

shit parts...CUSCO is the one to go!:thumbsup:

[Chi]

Why is neuspeed shit?


And what makes cusco the one to go for?

I would like to hear your reason rather than blurted out statements like you have made with the majority of your posts.

[EKVTIR-T]

shit parts...CUSCO is the one to go!:thumbsup:


You would have to be the biggest jdm fanboy....

Seriously open your eyes :thumbdwn:

[kongfu]

Why is neuspeed shit?


And what makes cusco the one to go for?

I would like to hear your reason rather than blurted out statements like you have made with the majority of your posts.

If you got problem and always towards me.. Come to melb...we start a fight.:thumbdwn:

[kongfu]

You would have to be the biggest jdm fanboy....

Seriously open your eyes :thumbdwn:

CUSCO is specializing in Suspension and handling kits in Japan for many years.

People buying their products due to their quality as well good R&D.:thumbsup:

For cheaper option, Whiteline is also very good alternative.:thumbsup:

[EKVTIR-T]

Neuspeed have been around for about 50years..
What makes you call them shit?

I like Cusco also but it's ignorant to discard other brands as simply shit with no evidence or reasoning..

Are you looking for fights?

[Chi]

If you got problem and always towards me.. Come to melb...we start a fight.:thumbdwn:


LOL start a fight?

DNT-CRY because you cant reply to my comments.

Im still waiting for you to reply in the DC5 wheels thread to why you think +43 is the best.

Cant answer so you want to start a fight. :thumbdwn:

Go home and cry E-thug.

[kongfu]

Neuspeed have been around for about 50years..
What makes you call them shit?

I like Cusco also but it's ignorant to discard other brands as simply shit with no evidence or reasoning..

Are you looking for fights?


I think you are looking for a fight here.. Different people different view.

I was giving typecivic an idea about CUSCO products and Im not a big fan of Neuspeed parts. Thats all!

In the end, no need to so sensative about other ppl's reply about parts.

[kongfu]

LOL start a fight?

DNT-CRY because you cant reply to my comments.

Im still waiting for you to reply in the DC5 wheels thread to why you think +43 is the best.

Cant answer so you want to start a fight. :thumbdwn:

Go home and cry E-thug.


I dont wanna argue with a boy like you. so I remain silent. Go home and sleep!:thumbdwn:

Good night!;)

[Chi]

I dont wanna argue with a boy like you. so I remain silent. Go home and sleep!:thumbdwn:

Good night!;)


Has nothing to do with arguing, from what I can see you cant provide a proper answer to all your statements.

You should remain silent because you're only making yourself look like a fool with comments & statements you cannot back up.

And me the little boy? lol whos the e thug that wants to start a fight lol.

[kongfu]

Has nothing to do with arguing, from what I can see you cant provide a proper answer to all your statements.

You should remain silent because you're only making yourself look like a fool with comments & statements you cannot back up.

And me the little boy? lol whos the e thug that wants to start a fight lol.

You look like a pacific police man and every single reply and comment from member seems like you are very interested in and would like to give shit on it.

Go to louge and spam as many as you can. keep this EP3 discussion thread clean..

cheers. END OF DISCUSSION! PEACE!:thumbsup:

[Chi]

You look like a pacific police man and every single reply and comment from member seems like you are very interested in and would like to give shit on it.

Go to louge and spam as many as you can. keep this EP3 discussion thread clean..

cheers. END OF DISCUSSION! PEACE!:thumbsup:


Pacific police man? wtf? You're a god damn fob arent you lol.

Can you at least reply to the other thread to why you think +43 is the best offset for track, daily etc and how on earth you think +43 will clear spoon calipers?

Since you replied so much here might as well reply there as well..

here is the link just in case you are too mentally challenged to find it :

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92514

[Nepolian]

Stock sussy FTWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Come on guys keep it to pm!

I have the Civic Type R Hyper Rev and the four different "well known" tuners appear to use four different sussy setups.

Goes to show that not one is better than the other. Just what suits you particular set up....ie Shocks, suspension, brakes etc......

Mr Chi and Kongfu man just kiss and make up. Just agree to disagree :)

[chargeR]

shit parts...CUSCO is the one to go!:thumbsup:


If you got problem and always towards me.. Come to melb...we start a fight.:thumbdwn:

I am fairly certain that Chi does not want to come to Melbourne to have a fight, however if you would prefer to discuss, in person, your ideas regarding the tuning of Honda motor cars I am available at any future clubITR cruise you might care to attend. I think he only asks that you back up your comments with some sort of empirical evidence. If you do not do so you have no cause get butthurt when someone questions them.

Arbitrary comments have no place on a forum so you must present a sufficient argument for us to believe you, something beyond "This brand is mad tyte yo and you should buy it."


CUSCO is specializing in Suspension and handling kits in Japan for many years.

People buying their products due to their quality as well good R&D.:thumbsup:

For cheaper option, Whiteline is also very good alternative.:thumbsup:

Okay guy.

[chargeR]

Also to contribute to the topic at hand any swaybar that fits an AUDM DC5 will fit an EP3R so look for reviews from DC5 owners. I personally like my stock sways, although I have considered removing my front sway bar, but they are only part of a complete suspension package so it is hard to evaluate a sway bar on its own.

[egads]

Stock sussy FTWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW


QFT! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[typercivic]

Also to contribute to the topic at hand any swaybar that fits an AUDM DC5 will fit an EP3R so look for reviews from DC5 owners. I personally like my stock sways, although I have considered removing my front sway bar, but they are only part of a complete suspension package so it is hard to evaluate a sway bar on its own.

is that for front and rear would you know?

[Chi]

Its both.



JDM DC5R is the same as EP3R and AUDM DC5R for the rear.

But front is different.

[typercivic]

Its both.

JDM DC5R is the same as EP3R and AUDM DC5R for the rear.

But front is different.

ahhh ok yeh the front shape is different, that's why so many people put the ep3r sway on with after market headers.

want to get rid of some of the understeer i have been getting so sourcing a rear dc5 sway will be a lot easier than an ep3 one.

thanks

[dave_L]

Where is a few differnt way to get rid of the understeer,

e.g fitting 17 x 9 Front and 17 x 8 for the rear,

thats a popular mods in U.S for DC5.

btw, Neuspeed is a very good company to me and i belive they know thier stuff better then others company badged as " HONDA SPECIALIST " in the state... but anyway ..... To me Cusco is another decent company who makes alot of decent suspension parts, are they the best? I dont think so... atleast for our EP3R.....what about H&R? as far as I know H&R makes one of the best sway bar in the world....if i have to choose one, I would go for H&R all day long, so its really up to personal perference..

Having wheel to fit the SPOON brakes is not really the offset...is base on the " X-Factor " of the wheels, I got 42+ wheels on my car now it clear my SPOON monoblock by 2mm. So higher offset DOES NOT MEAN IT WONT CLEAR SPOON BRAKES.

I have seen some wheel in lower offset 30+ with a very small xfactor ( deep dish ) it wont even clear the S15 stock small 4 pot.

anyway...just my 2 cents....

[air23box]

Good point......and all depends what you want from ur sway too.....some ppl reckon 25mm is overkill but if you dun run it on track then no point to get a thicker sway anywayz.......but for track its all depends on how you setup ur footwork and different alingment setup as well......thicker sway not equal to better handling......I use cusco both front and rear and I think it matches my mono flex with my alingment setup well....but its just me......

[typercivic]

i run the car on the track so that's why I am wanting to upgrade sway bars. The ep3 comes with a 22mm factory rear sway and H&R make a 22mm one as an upgrade as the u.s civic and ukdm ep3 come with 18mm factory sway so no point to get one. the front is a lot thicker as H&R make a 27mm as opposed to factory 22mm but i want to get rid of understeer.

The other option i am thinking is to get a 27mm front sway from H&R/Cusco/Neuspeed and get a 25mm rear one from cusco(dc5r sway same fitment). Only problem i can think of is if H&R designed their bar on the u.s civic/ukdm ep3 meaning it will have an issue clearing aftermarket headers?

[ekhybrid]

If you got problem and always towards me.. Come to melb...we start a fight.:thumbdwn:

your are tool, fool

[Nepolian]

For anyone who's interested, this Wednesday 2/7 WSID :)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93427

[Chi]

For anyone who's interested, this Wednesday 2/7 WSID :)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93427

You should install stiffer mounts Nep before that day , itll help alot, trust me lol

[Nepolian]

You should install stiffer mounts Nep before that day , itll help alot, trust me lol

Already done, thank mate. I never go back out without improvements :)

[Chi]

Nice , which one did u get?

[EKVTIR-T]

Hey Chi,do you know if it's possible to change the rear engine mount on Dc5 without a hoist?
I've done the left and right but haven't attempted the rear yet.Looks tricky

Thx

[Chi]

You can just jack it up onto jack stands and use the jack to support the engine.

How ever you may ned to remove the Exhaust manifold to access the Rear mount.

[Philip Lee]

what's good stiffer engine mounts to go for?

mugen? Innovative? does engine dampers work well?

my car is mainly for street use and would appreciate to keep NVH to as low as possible.

thanks

[BongStyle]

Anyway guys i think i will be going for the full TODA exhaust system...do you think it will be worthwhile to maybe get an Apexi Neo, then get it tuned at TODA ?

[Nepolian]

Anyway guys i think i will be going for the full TODA exhaust system...do you think it will be worthwhile to maybe get an Apexi Neo, then get it tuned at TODA ?

Good choice with Toda system. Spend a little more and get a Hondata ecu, neo will not net you much power.

[Philip Lee]

Spend a little more and get a Hondata ecu, neo will not net you much power.

i agree.

Neo won't be able to change your VTEC point. you can only A/F with them which is limited.

[Mattski_VTIR]

Good choice with Toda system. Spend a little more and get a Hondata ecu, neo will not net you much power.

I agree, definatley save up for a better tuning option i.e hondata.
I have a full toda system / gruppe-m and kpro on my Type S (different car very similar motor) and they all complement each other very well!! Very tidy sounding exhaust too :thumbsup:

[questera]

Just wondering, does Toda 4-2-1 header manifold come as a 2 pieces or 1 piece system ? thanks

[Nepolian]

Just wondering, does Toda 4-2-1 header manifold come as a 2 pieces or 1 piece system ? thanks

.....1

[questera]

.....1

hmm, does it come with a brand new catalytic converter or we still need to use the stock cat converter?

[BongStyle]

TODA supplies a catalytic converter to match the header

[Nepolian]

hmm, does it come with a brand new catalytic converter or we still need to use the stock cat converter?

:) ...............not headers come with a new cat. Especially the Toda ones!

This was only mentioned a couple of pages back. Here it is in a nut shell!

Toda race header, no cat.

Its a de-cat design.

You have two (2) choices, actually three (3) :)

1) Cut the flex on header and weld you existing cat to it. Ball flange still provides flex.

2) Have Toda install the header with a hi-flow cat for about $1900ish.

3) Get you own hi-flow cat and have it fitted!

[questera]

:) ...............not headers come with a new cat. Especially the Toda ones!

This was only mentioned a couple of pages back. Here it is in a nut shell!

Toda race header, no cat.

Its a de-cat design.

You have two (2) choices, actually three (3) :)

1) Cut the flex on header and weld you existing cat to it. Ball flange still provides flex.

2) Have Toda install the header with a hi-flow cat for about $1900ish.

3) Get you own hi-flow cat and have it fitted!

Thanks for the explanation bro... make much more sense to me now.

To be honest, i have ordered j's racing full system last week but deep inside, i still have some dilemma between the 2 brands, toda n j's.

with j's header, as it come as a 2 piece system, i still have to use the stock 2-1 cat piping and not sure if thats going to compromise the overall performance. finger crossed... the only way is to test it out...

How much KW did you make out of the TODA?

[kongfu]

Thanks for the explanation bro... make much more sense to me now.

To be honest, i have ordered j's racing full system last week but deep inside, i still have some dilemma between the 2 brands, toda n j's.

with j's header, as it come as a 2 piece system, i still have to use the stock 2-1 cat piping and not sure if thats going to compromise the overall performance. finger crossed... the only way is to test it out...

How much KW did you make out of the TODA?

Just custom made CAT for your Js racing header..

becoz TODA header come without CAT as well..You gotta ask TODA AU custom made one for you.

Only Mugen header come with CAT.

My TODA header+RM01A combo dynoed about 122kw at wheel.

[questera]

Just custom made CAT for your Js racing header..

becoz TODA header come without CAT as well..You gotta ask TODA AU custom made one for you.

Only Mugen header come with CAT.

My TODA header+RM01A combo dynoed about 122kw at wheel.

Do you know how much do you gain? did you only dynoed after the product was installed?

Generally from what i know, a stock EP3 would generate around 125KW. Well i might be wrong

[EKVTIR-T]

122kw with Toda seems not very impressive..

Would of expected more

[kongfu]

Do you know how much do you gain? did you only dynoed after the product was installed?

Generally from what i know, a stock EP3 would generate around 125KW. Well i might be wrong

JDM EP3 is different to AUDM DC5R.

[questera]

JDM EP3 is different to AUDM DC5R.

I thought you are driving EP3 as well. My Bad...:p

[Chi]

JDM EP3 is different to AUDM DC5R.


Why is it different Mr know it all.

[kongfu]

Why is it different Mr know it all.

Same situation as your penis vs Oz penis:eek:

[EKVTIR-T]

Kongfu why can't you just give a reasonable explanation of your various comments and claims?

It's not being smartass or rude,just asking for some explanation.

Is that unfair?

[kongfu]

Kongfu why can't you just give a reasonable explanation of your various comments and claims?

It's not being smartass or rude,just asking for some explanation.

Is that unfair?


Search is your friend AUDM DC5 vs EP3R.

[ennavoli]

Kongfu why can't you just give a reasonable explanation of your various comments and claims?

It's not being smartass or rude,just asking for some explanation.

Is that unfair?

Maybe he doesn't know it, thats why he resorted to getting personal/indecent to Chi.

I noticed from his posts that he only says XXX is good cause he bought it or is using it... which doesn't make much sense.

[EKVTIR-T]

Search is your friend AUDM DC5 vs EP3R.

:D I have no need to search it.

I wasn't only referring to that comment.
I meant all your random claims and opinions

[kongfu]

Maybe he doesn't know it, thats why he resorted to getting personal/indecent to Chi.

I noticed from his posts that he only says XXX is good cause he bought it or is using it... which doesn't make much sense.

Yeah MR EP3...What I said doesnt make sense..You dont need to listen and follow lol.

[Chi]

LOL I dont even know him.

You obviously don't realise how many people think you are stupid.

But keep posting more crap on the forums.

People will just rpely to you as needed.

[fatboyz39]

My TODA header+RM01A combo dynoed about 122kw at wheel.

Thats not to bad. My mate's DC5R with OEM headers, blox filter made 120kw atw.

[EKVTIR-T]

I know you are Chi's accessary:wave:

Wtf?

I don't care about Chi or you mate. ;)

I just think some people have the $$ and buy all the brandnames and suddenly think they know it all lol

When 9 times out of 10 they are clueless :thumbsup:

[kongfu]

Thats not to bad. My mate's DC5R with OEM headers, blox filter made 120kw atw.

so what?different dyno got different results as well.

[fatboyz39]

Search is your friend AUDM DC5 vs EP3R.

well not much info on ozhonda, so might as well explain it.

[Chi]

No matter how stupid you think at least you are most stupiest person in the world:thumbdwn: Thats fair enough:wave:

I'm sorry I dont understand what stupiest is?

care to explain this word?

[typercivic]

have a question about coil overs and don't want to get involved in the the slagging so here goes.

i think coilovers have been covered before but can't find it. after a few issues am able to get any tein coilovers for a much reduced price. I do the odd bit of track work but mainly street driving but don't mind a shuddering ride, was thinking super street at the moment, is it worth extra money for mono flex?

[kongfu]

Wtf?

I don't care about Chi or you mate. ;)

I just think some people have the $$ and buy all the brandnames and suddenly think they know it all lol

When 9 times out of 10 they are clueless :thumbsup:


Hi bro..take it easy...what I have told its just truely based on my personal obsevation and experience. No offence.

[fatboyz39]

Wtf?

I don't care about Chi or you mate. ;)

I just think some people have the $$ and buy all the brandnames and suddenly think they know it all lol

When 9 times out of 10 they are clueless :thumbsup:

Yeap so true. All these big jap brands price up there products wheen it can be achieve with something half the cost.

[ennavoli]

Yeah MR EP3...What I said doesnt make sense..You dont need to listen and follow lol.

I'm not listening or following your recommendations either, I just find it hilarous. lol

I'm reading it btw, if you know the differences between the 3.

LOL at fatboyz's post.

[kongfu]

Yeap so true. All these big jap brands price up there products wheen it can be achieve with something half the cost.

I have to agree with that buddy! Lots of JDM parts are just overpriced.. But we just need to think about it in this way, we pay for the good brand parts at the same time we are actually buying their R&D and patents!:thumbsup:

[kongfu]

So you are saying that to get an extra 2 kw's you need to spend a few more grand?

BARGAIN !!!

KONGFU MODDING ADVICE FTW !






Only people who have no idea about mods would pay that much.

Geez I wonder who aye?!


I was just let the fellow know I got TODA header dynoed for 122kw at wheel. However, different dyno got slightly different results.

what you laughing at?I modify with whatever parts I like or Im comfortable with. As long as Im happy about it.

[Nepolian]

I was just let the fellow know I got TODA header dynoed for 122kw at wheel. However, different dyno got slightly different results.

what you laughing at?I modify with whatever parts I like or Im comfortable with. As long as Im happy about it.

Ok on same Dyno, different days tho!

Stock EP3 (Supersteve) - 120KW

My EP3 with Toda headers, 2.5 exhaust and SRI - 128KW

If thats any indication. Again I stress that headers arent about end power! Its been said over and over again. Most likely gains is response and mid range.

So yes end gain is low, but if you super impose the lower to mid ranges you'll see that there are benefits.

Alot of people only seem to have the opinion that if it dont make power, its crap. Clearly not the case!

[BongStyle]

I dont think i will take my modifications any further then I/H/E so would a hondata really be worthwhile? i cant justify spending another grand on top...

[kongfu]

Ok on same Dyno, different days tho!

Stock EP3 (Supersteve) - 120KW

My EP3 with Toda headers, 2.5 exhaust and SRI - 128KW

If thats any indication. Again I stress that headers arent about end power! Its been said over and over again. Most likely gains is response and mid range.

So yes end gain is low, but if you super impose the lower to mid ranges you'll see that there are benefits.

Alot of people only seem to have the opinion that if it dont make power, its crap. Clearly not the case!

Rep you bro!:thumbsup: You are correct! My mate EP3 Full Toda exhaust 133kw at wheel.:wave:

[SuperSteve]

lol please dont get this thread closed guys this is my life ! !

Ok within next 2 weeks im going to b purchasing just the toda exhaust system which hopefully will just bolt onto my jdm headers and cat. I will provide dyno results asap. (Later on down the track i will b upgrading the headers and the cat just cant afford at the moment)
Original Stock Dyno - 119.3kw at the wheels
Dyno with my Gruppe M - Will be done b4 the exhaust is installed
And then ill give a overall result after exhaust installed aswell as response and yadda dadda ! ! I CANT WAIT FINALLY ! ! !

[egads]

how much is the toda catback? i eagerly await your results/findings professor steve! lol

[kongfu]

how much is the toda catback? i eagerly await your results/findings professor steve! lol

PM Adrian from TODA AU. My friend paid $1.4k I think.

[Nepolian]

Heres a indication of gain from a Hondata ECU.

Pics from Hondatech!

[Philip Lee]

it looks like the Hondata is worth every $$ it cost just on the mid range gain alone.

[aaronng]

it looks like the Hondata is worth every $$ it cost just on the mid range gain alone.

Hondata doesn't give you power. Your tuner does....

[Philip Lee]

Hondata doesn't give you power. Your tuner does....

err can my tuner gives me more power from the OEM ECU alone??

[aaronng]

err can my tuner gives me more power from the OEM ECU alone??

Nope, but neither can a Hondata'd ECU without a tuner. ;)

[Chi]

Nope, but neither can a Hondata'd ECU without a tuner. ;)

Am I counted as a tuner if I put tuned maps onto the ecu?

I mean I aint technically tuning anything on a dyno or road, just chucking on a map onto the ecu.

So in relation to your comment, you don't need a tuner to get power out of the kpro.

Obviously though it won't be as much power compared to a proper tune lol

[aaronng]

Am I counted as a tuner if I put tuned maps onto the ecu?

I mean I aint technically tuning anything on a dyno or road, just chucking on a map onto the ecu.

So in relation to your comment, you don't need a tuner to get power out of the kpro.

Obviously though it won't be as much power compared to a proper tune lol

Pray that the tuned map that you are using does not have any lean spots throughout the rev range. :)

[Chi]

Whos aid I was using a tuned map on my car? lol

I was just using it as a reference.

[aaronng]

Whos aid I was using a tuned map on my car? lol

I was just using it as a reference.

Someone had to have made that tuned map in the first place. So that guy is the tuner. ;)

[Philip Lee]

i guess it's fair to say you need both (tuner + ECU) to do the trick?

rest the case lol

[Chi]

no, you need a good tuner lol.

[typercivic]

it's down to super streets or mono flex for me at the moment. Looking like super streets though unless can justify the extra...what you guys think?

[kongfu]

it's down to super streets or mono flex for me at the moment. Looking like super streets though unless can justify the extra...what you guys think?

SS good for daily +mild track work also cheaper price.

Mono Flex spring rate higher, thus firmer than SS capable more track works.

What you really after?

[EKVTIR-T]

Yeah depends what you really want from them.

SS if you not interested in circuit.

Monoflex if you planning on tracking the car.

Also SS is single perch height adjust.

At least with the monoflex you get dual adjust..
Also mono got microspeedvalve

[typercivic]

i do light track atm but will do more later on but don't want to spend and get SS then realise should have gotten mono.

What do you mean by single perch height adjust compared to dual? mono only allows a max of 15mm drop at rear compared to SS which is like 25mm, that's not an issue though for me as not looking to really lower it or anything.

[EKVTIR-T]

See how the height is adjusted with the SS.There is only one set of locking perches

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3298/superstreetmf1.jpg

Now see with the mono the height adjustment is independent of the spring perch

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4563/teinep3monoflexeq4.jpg

[typercivic]

ahhh i follow now. might have to have a think then and weigh up benefits v cost etc. would you think mono flex is a marked improvement over SS?

thanks for help

[EKVTIR-T]

Since you said you track already and maybe more later on then the Mono would be the better option.
SS are marketed as the name suggests,being great for daily driving with height adjustment and not too harsh.
Most people say the SS spring rates are too soft for track work.

See if you can ride in a car with each coilover and see which you prefer.

Also hopefully someone on here has first hand experience with them to give more feedback.

[kongfu]

ahhh i follow now. might have to have a think then and weigh up benefits v cost etc. would you think mono flex is a marked improvement over SS?

thanks for help

If $$ is not the main issue for you atm, go for mono flex you will benefit later on:thumbsup:

[Malenic1981]

I had ss on my DC2R, I was very happy with them, car was mainly street driven, couple of times I went to track and I think they performed well (much better than my driving skills hehe), I found them very good for my needs so yeah.

[kongfu]

I had ss on my DC2R, I was very happy with them, car was mainly street driven, couple of times I went to track and I think they performed well (much better than my driving skills hehe), I found them very good for my needs so yeah.

Im happy with my SS as well suit my needs. Mild track work is fine.

[Malenic1981]

Anyway how much for SS for EP3??

[kongfu]

Anyway how much for SS for EP3??

PM EDW.

[Malenic1981]

I don't have EP3 yet but should very soon, so was just wondering

[kongfu]

I don't have EP3 yet but should very soon, so was just wondering

Its cheaper now.. $1500 maximum

[Malenic1981]

Fark thats pretty cheap when compared to few years ago

[kongfu]

Fark thats pretty cheap when compared to few years ago

I bought mine for $1900 back in 2005.

[Malenic1981]

Same here but in 06

[kongfu]

Same here but in 06
:( PM edw when u after SS.

[Malenic1981]

I will definitly

[Philip Lee]

I don't have EP3 yet but should very soon, so was just wondering

what year and what colour? :wave:

[danjoy25]

Anyone here knows where you can get EP3R centre caps locally?

[Malenic1981]

tomorow I got meeting with my broker, I hope it wan't take too long to find one, I prefer white or black but will see, year prob 02-03

[typercivic]

i got my rm-01a fitted today, yet to take it for a good drive but car sounds great and feels better from what i could tell.

[kongfu]

i got my rm-01a fitted today, yet to take it for a good drive but car sounds great and feels better from what i could tell.

You wont go wrong with RM01A! One of the quietest catback on the market:thumbsup: Congrats

[SuperSteve]

typercivic get some dyno charts if u can :D:D so we can compare when i get my toda installed. because we both go gruppe m's b good to see what different power we both get
i got a feeling mayb the fujitsubo might give more gains then the toda

[typercivic]

kongfu - thanks, will give a better review when drive it more.

Steve, will do, hoping for this saturday if not sometime during next week. I was thinking the toda might have but went with rm due to wanting a quiet one etc

[kongfu]

So kongfool, you are saying the best exhaust to get is a quiet one?

Why is that, please explain?


hi Chip im not interested to your reply:wave:

[kongfu]

kongfu - thanks, will give a better review when drive it more.

Steve, will do, hoping for this saturday if not sometime during next week. I was thinking the toda might have but went with rm due to wanting a quiet one etc

No worries mate.. Glad to know you are happy about RM01A:wave: Whats next mod by the way?TODA header coming soon?:D

[typercivic]

No worries mate.. Glad to know you are happy about RM01A:wave: Whats next mod by the way?TODA header coming soon?:D

yeh and the quality of the welds etc is second to none. Not sure yet, looking like a set of tein SS next, then i will worry about header and hondata down the track once i decide what i want to do with the car(track or street).

[SuperSteve]

hey typercivic are u just going to bolt ur rm01a straight to ur jdm cat ?? or u gonna get a hi flow cat installed ??

[typercivic]

Steve, was done today, just bolted to jdm cat. Will get a high flow cat done later on by itself or probs just with header at the same time.

[SuperSteve]

yeah thats what im gonna do aswell typercivic, ill get the hi flow cat the same time i upgrade my headers :D

but yeah i hope ur happy with ur exhaust hehe another mod done to ur car whats next mate ?

[typercivic]

yeh i am really happy with it from what i have driven so far but can't see that changing. the welds on it are spot on, everything about it is great. the resonator in the middle isn't like some cheap brands where they just put a flap in it which reduces the effective piping of it by a lot to make it quieter either.

mmm thinking it will be superstreet coilovers next, then the plan is to leave the car for awhile, that's the plan anyway ha ha. how about you? when you thinking the exhaust is going to happen?

[SuperSteve]

nice man :D well good to hear ur happy with the exhaust. Yeah ill get the exhaust done within hopefully next couple of weeks i just gotta get some free time so busy lol but yeah ill put up details of outcome when it all gets done to compare :D

[Nepolian]

Hey guys, I have a Cusco front strut brace and a M&M rear strut brace for sale, pm if interested....pls note Cusco wont clear GruppeM!

Re: Sussy, the SS should be ok for the occasional track....eg...a few time a year. I had the SS in my GTR and mate had the next Spec up from that in his, dont know if it was a mono or not?. He'd always say that my car was a little better riding than his and it was just a good all round shock.

[Philip Lee]

if you don't intend to drop the car too low, SS will be perfect for mainly street + occasional track.

if you want to slam it, MF might be a bigger idea becos you can change your ride height independently from the spring/shock travel.

[Malenic1981]

Boys from today my broker should start hunt for my EP3 hehe, me very happy hehe

[kongfu]

Boys from today my broker should start hunt for my EP3 hehe, me very happy hehe

pre face or facelifted?:p

[Malenic1981]

pre face, it's gonna be 02-03 model prob in white with around 50000km, same broker that imported ep3 for typercivic

[kongfu]

pre face, it's gonna be 02-03 model prob in white with around 50000km, same broker that imported ep3 for typercivic

should be value for money!:thumbsup:

[Philip Lee]

it won't be hard to find your spec Malenic. Good luck.

[Malenic1981]

I'm pretty happy with the way this broker works and value for money should be pretty good, for the price of aus DC5R with close to 100000km i should have JDM EP3 with half of kms plus better performance

[Philip Lee]

^ exactly why i got mine and more practical too lol

[Nepolian]

Theres one on carsales....heap cheap IMO!

[Malenic1981]

how much??

[Philip Lee]

cheapest is $23.5k (http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HONDA/CIVIC/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=ep3&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=6&state_id=0&keywords=ep3&R=5938884&__N=4294965322+0+834+285+257+4294965250&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=ep3&trecs=14&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=117B0E2A5ED6&Model=CIVIC&seot=0&Make=HONDA)...........

[EKVTIR-T]

He's in perth mate :)

[Malenic1981]

pretty cheap, my should be around that price as well, and yeah im in perth

[Philip Lee]

He's in perth mate :)

so it is unusual to buy interstate? Japan is overseas too. lol

[Nepolian]

so it is unusual to buy interstate? Japan is overseas too. lol

I was about to say that too :)

Alot of positives from buying within Aus! One is you can see before you buy and no freting on if you bought a lemon. Its complied and no wait.

Costs nothing to fly over inspect and transport it over. Especially if it is what you want! Why wait and pay the same price for one in Japan??

[typercivic]

i fitted a j's racing engine damper today....thought i would give that a shot. I must say i was doubtful about it but it does work. On it's softest setting it's as if it isn't there but anywhere from 50% stiffness and higher it works, you do get more vibration when taking off with it but it's something you have to deal with by having one.

I have it on about 80% now but will try turning it right up to see how that is then a bit of trial and error is in order for what i can deal with day to day.

[Malenic1981]

Well my may be a bit cheaper plus the guy that's importing has good record and also a mehanical shop set up in japan where they check every car they import (they make shure it's all good), also car should be grade 4+ which is hard to find with lots of car dealships, there is one in perth for sale and they are asking $29900 for same specs I want and it's prob grade 3 by the way it looks (lots of dents, scraches and dameged interior plastic), i don't care about wait period because I'll be away for next 5 weeks (going to europe) and than probably another 4 weeks away for work so yeah, makes no difference if i get it now or in two months

[Philip Lee]

^ fair enough mate. it's not hard to find grade 4 B or better at japan auctions.

[Philip Lee]

i fitted a j's racing engine damper today....thought i would give that a shot. I must say i was doubtful about it but it does work. On it's softest setting it's as if it isn't there but anywhere from 50% stiffness and higher it works, you do get more vibration when taking off with it but it's something you have to deal with by having one.

I have it on about 80% now but will try turning it right up to see how that is then a bit of trial and error is in order for what i can deal with day to day.

interesting. i wonder if Spoon's adjustable.

[SuperSteve]

sorry for noob question boys and girls but installing a engine damper help besides the fact it helps put less stress on ur engine mounts ??

[sai_ANN]

sorry for noob question boys and girls but installing a engine damper help besides the fact it helps put less stress on ur engine mounts ??

apart from absorbing some engine vibrations, it's just engine bay bling... :p

[Chi]

Putting an engine torque damper will increase more stress to one of the mounts as it focuses on the corner.

If you want to have less engien movement then stiffer engine mounts or inserts will do a better job.

Stock mounts are terrible

[EKVTIR-T]

Putting an engine torque damper will increase more stress to one of the mounts as it focuses on the corner.

If you want to have less engien movement then stiffer engine mounts or inserts will do a better job.

Stock mounts are terrible

Agreed :thumbsup:

I have actually seen an engine damper that mounts to the firewall and the centre of the valve cover which helps centralise the load.

[Chi]

I've only seen it for DC5R from 5Zigen.

Haven't seen one for EP3.

But as I said, the aftermarket mounts will do a better job.

[egads]

what are some reputable brands when it comes to mounts/inserts.

and which are better? taking price into consideration and the mostly street factor.

[SuperSteve]

ooo so engine dampers would work well with some good innovative mounts ??

thanks for feedback aswell guys

[Chi]

If you get stiffer mounts you dont need the ETD.

I ditched mine as soon as i got stiffer mounts.

[typercivic]

i got the ETD as a stop gap till i get stiffer mounts. Just came back from a drive with it on stiffest setting and the whole car was vibrating, even the roof light was cruising along at 60 in 5th. Just turned it back to about 80% or so but will have to mess around with it to see what is best.

[sai_ANN]

what are some reputable brands when it comes to mounts/inserts.

and which are better? taking price into consideration and the mostly street factor.

i got Energy Suspension engine mount inserts...relatively cheap...but can't remember how much exactly...around $100 i think

[egads]

how do they feel?

are they these?
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60642

[sai_ANN]

how do they feel?

are they these?
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60642

yep...that's it...but i didn't get it from them...

in terms of feel...you gotta be prepared to deal with the vibrations...it was pretty bad when i first got them fitted, but i think over time it has settled a little...

[SuperSteve]

dam are them inserts worth getting ?? is the vibration really that bad di ?? i might purchase them aswell as the dohc shifter bushes to see how they go.

also how much engine mounts on the k20a ?? if i get these inserts will they b for all the mounts ??


also here is some cool info on these mounts
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/About%20-%20Energy%20Suspension%20Motor%20Mount%20Inserts.a sp

[Type R Positive]

Malenic1981, what broker you going through? Fabcar?

[Malenic1981]

Blacksun Imports, brokers name is Nigel

[Type R Positive]

Cheers!

[egads]

steve i did some research on them, seem to be all the rage. vibration is real noticable upon install but dies down, or perhaps you get used to it. mainly at idle. and it only inserts to the front and rear engine mounts. so just the two.


dam are them inserts worth getting ?? is the vibration really that bad di ?? i might purchase them aswell as the dohc shifter bushes to see how they go.

also how much engine mounts on the k20a ?? if i get these inserts will they b for all the mounts ??


also here is some cool info on these mounts
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/About%20-%20Energy%20Suspension%20Motor%20Mount%20Inserts.a sp

[Nepolian]

dam are them inserts worth getting ?? is the vibration really that bad di ?? i might purchase them aswell as the dohc shifter bushes to see how they go.

also how much engine mounts on the k20a ?? if i get these inserts will they b for all the mounts ??

Mounts from spoon an innovative are over $500 new. The energy suspension inserts are good and come for the front and rear mounts only from memory.

About the Torque dampners, they complement aftermarket mounts as they still absorb alot of the twist so that the engine mounts dont cop it all.

[egads]

also steve, i dont think they have dohc shifter bushings for the ep3

[Nepolian]

Anyone going to the monthly meet?

[sai_ANN]

steve i did some research on them, seem to be all the rage. vibration is real noticable upon install but dies down, or perhaps you get used to it. mainly at idle. and it only inserts to the front and rear engine mounts. so just the two.

ditto...

you only really notice it when you're idle...and by now i'm so used to it i don't notice it anymore...

here are some pics of them installed:

front:
http://www.felixalim.com/dianne/after-front.jpg

rear:
http://www.felixalim.com/dianne/after-rear.jpg

[Chi]

Mounts from spoon an innovative are over $500 new. The energy suspension inserts are good and come for the front and rear mounts only from memory.

About the Torque dampners, they complement aftermarket mounts as they still absorb alot of the twist so that the engine mounts dont cop it all.

Depends which Innovative mounts you go for.

the Steel replacement ones are around teh $400 odd mark.

Where as the Aluminium CNC'd Billet ones are around teh $500.

Inserts are good, but Some people say they lose their firmness quicker compared to mount replacements.

vibrations for the mounts depends on which stiffness you get, it ranges from 60-90a I think.

I have 75a and its like a massive vibrator.

But I dont get wheel hops as much the car chirps rather than hops on the road to get grip.

Also giving it gas around the corners is alot better, it doesnt jerk as much now.

[Philip Lee]

Spoon doesn't do mounts for EP3.

is Mugen engine mounts good?

do we need all 4 mounts or 3 will do?

thanks

[Nepolian]

Spoon doesn't do mounts for EP3.

is Mugen engine mounts good?

do we need all 4 mounts or 3 will do?

thanks

The mugen ones still give decent movements and probably not good enough for drag racing! But will offer better day to day driving and less vibrations.

Go innovative if you are considering hard launches!

[typercivic]

Nepolian, that's the thing i am not sure about, some one said to me once that Mugen mounts are more so OEM replacement as opposed to upgrade. Having said that i use the car as a daily with the odd bit of track work so im thinking Mugen mounts with ETD should be good middle ground, sounds reasonable?

[Chi]

Mugen mounts is pretty much stock mounts with more silicon in it to fill it up.

Alot of people I know who have used it found it to not be as stiff as they wanted.

You are better off for a similar price getting the Innovative Street mounts or Avid racing ones.

As they are a whole new mount replacement design and not just stock filled up with some silicon.

[Nepolian]

You may as well put some urethane in you stock ones and give that a go. Mugen ones have something like different angles or some sh#t. Im sure it would be better than stock though.

Innovative for my money. Having said that, light track work you may get away with the ETD.

Just give it a go, everyones different!

[typercivic]

the only thing is that i don't want a lot of vibrations with the stiffer mounts, i guess one of the innovative mounts more so for the street than the really stiff ones, the 60A or the 75A i guess.

I know been covered before but will all k-series ones fit ep3 or which one do i go for? Is it worth going for 60A or is it only worth going for the 75A if upgrading? I saw a huge thread all about engine mounts for k20 a couple of days ago but can't find it now.

thanks for the help

[SuperSteve]

just purchased the toda exhaust system 2day so once it arrives it will be put straight onto my car and ill provide the gains :D i cant wait ! ! !

[egads]

full or catback?

[Nepolian]

full or catback?

I pretty sure he said a few posts back that he was getting cat back :)

[ekhybrid]

sai_ANN
how long did it take to install the inserts?

[sai_ANN]

took a while actually...mainly coz you have to take off the header to get to the rear mount...maybe 1 hour or so? (i didn't do it though... :p)

[ekhybrid]

take off the header?!?!
lol fcuk

[egads]

apparently the fronts even harder. i heard the best way is to drop the subframe.

[Skyline_man]

I see a black EP3 in Fairfield, Sydney everyday at around 3 PM (on sackville street)

is it anyone on the forum?

[Nepolian]

No guys, no!...You do not need to take the manifold or the sub frame out!

Only need to do some fancy fiddling to get the rear out. The front one will require a little patience and drivers side mount to be unbolted.

[SuperSteve]

I see a black EP3 in Fairfield, Sydney everyday at around 3 PM (on sackville street)

is it anyone on the forum?

dam i drive through fairfield almost everyday and never seen this black ep3 yet. Ive actually seen quiet a few on the roads lately seems like everyone is buying :D hehe i also saw ur car di on the weekend on sunday :D

[egads]

time for a meet!

[SuperSteve]

time for a meet!

indeed !

lol we all been waiting to meet for ages.

Its uni holidays now and hopefully everyone is free, lets all decide on a date

[sai_ANN]

No guys, no!...You do not need to take the manifold or the sub frame out!

Only need to do some fancy fiddling to get the rear out. The front one will require a little patience and drivers side mount to be unbolted.

*shrugs*

no idea...my mechanic had to take apart the header to get at it... :p but yes...the front one is a bit of a tight fit...


dam i drive through fairfield almost everyday and never seen this black ep3 yet. Ive actually seen quiet a few on the roads lately seems like everyone is buying :D hehe i also saw ur car di on the weekend on sunday :D

hmm...i saw a white 02 ep3 when i was passing through an intersection (not gonna say where)....was that you?


time for a meet!

i'm keen...just need a bit of notice... :) my weekends are pretty busy...

[SuperSteve]

yeah di that was most probably me. I actually parked right beside u at this place and then had to shoot off because i forgot something then when i came back u were gone. Ur cars pretty nice by the way the facelift front bumper and grill looks heaps better then the pre facelift not to mention ur headlights aswell >_< dam i want some facelift headlights

[ekhybrid]

some 1 organise a meet!!!

[SuperSteve]

some 1 organise a meet!!!

yeah ekhybrid organise the meet :D:D:D

[sai_ANN]

yeah di that was most probably me. I actually parked right beside u at this place and then had to shoot off because i forgot something then when i came back u were gone. Ur cars pretty nice by the way the facelift front bumper and grill looks heaps better then the pre facelift not to mention ur headlights aswell >_< dam i want some facelift headlights

hmmm...don't think it was me...coz the intersection was no where near where i parked...but thanks for the compliments! :)

[egads]

so which weekend is everyone free? ive seen this facelift ep3 with mugen front spoiler around, very nice. but i still say preface mugen spoiler is nicer (bias)

[icecrm]

just catching up on aloooot ofep3 talk just read majority of the thread. was there ever an ep3 meet in syd? will there be another??? count me in if so

[Mugen_B16B]

just curious if theres any red ones in aus?

[Skyline_man]

dam i drive through fairfield almost everyday and never seen this black ep3 yet. Ive actually seen quiet a few on the roads lately seems like everyone is buying :D hehe i also saw ur car di on the weekend on sunday :D

I think ive seen ur EP3 couple of times a while back ;)

[egads]

just curious if theres any red ones in aus?

yes, i believe bongstyle has a red one

[icecrm]

i've only seen white ones as mine is also white

[sai_ANN]

just curious if theres any red ones in aus?

my friend also has the red one that was at the AAI stand at autosalon final battle in sydney last year... :)

[icecrm]

come on fellow sydney siders

EP3 meet up!!!!

[BongStyle]

just curious if theres any red ones in aus?

Hi :p

Just put the order in for my TODA exhaust today! i'll let everyone know how it goes.

[SuperSteve]

Hi :p

Just put the order in for my TODA exhaust today! i'll let everyone know how it goes.

hahaha nice mate :D i purchased mine the other day im just waiting for it to arrive and then *drools* its show time baby ! ! !

[Philip Lee]

^^ i hate these kind of posts. lol

particular when home loan interest rates rised again. cry

[icecrm]

im picking up fujitsubo rm01 on sat so lets see how that goes aye???!!!

[typercivic]

icecrm - great choice, had mine on the car for about 1 week now and it's awesome.

[Mugen_B16B]

trying to find a red one but so rare, black also is another alternative, anyone no a red ep3 lemme no

[egads]

theres a black one here in syd for sale

check out http://www.internationalmotorgroup.com.au/stocklist.html

[Nepolian]

No one ever turns up on the meets

[icecrm]

i just wanna perv on the other ep3's out there

does any one know where i can get a carbon fibre bonnet for ep3 besides the mugen one???

[Philip Lee]

does any one know where i can get a carbon fibre bonnet for ep3 besides the mugen one???

J's Racing (http://www.jsracing.co.jp/js3/index.asp?xMODE=SHOP&xSW=2&xBUNRUI=21&xPARENT=17&xSHASHU=27) or M & M Honda (http://www.mandm-honda.com/ep3_bonnet.html)

[Nepolian]

AutoEconcept a trader on this forum can get them. Cheap too but longish wait.!

[sai_ANN]

No one ever turns up on the meets

not too keen on the general OH ones...but if there's an EP3 meet i'll come along... :)

[icecrm]

who stocks the M&M honda

[Nepolian]

who stocks the M&M honda

Im sure no one in Oz do it. Have to order it from nengun or perfect run. Im sure it'll cost a pretty dollar too :(


not too keen on the general OH ones...but if there's an EP3 meet i'll come along... :)

The general meets are good for newbies to meet the regulars. Always good to put face to names.

With my experience, less than half the people show up for forum meets. Therfore making an EP3 a 2-3 cars at best given that theres about 8 of us.

Hate to sound like a wet blanket all the time as I would too love to meet up with fellow owners.

I'll make the first suggestion of Saturday the 16th of August! Plenty of notice for everyone. See how we go from there and if its worthwhile, I'll attempt to organise a proper thread.

My suggestion would be a nice short half day drive?

[sai_ANN]

The general meets are good for newbies to meet the regulars. Always good to put face to names.

With my experience, less than half the people show up for forum meets. Therfore making an EP3 a 2-3 cars at best given that theres about 8 of us.

Hate to sound like a wet blanket all the time as I would too love to meet up with fellow owners.

I'll make the first suggestion of Saturday the 16th of August! Plenty of notice for everyone. See how we go from there and if its worthwhile, I'll attempt to organise a proper thread.

My suggestion would be a nice short half day drive?

haha fair enough...busy lifestyle makes it hard to fit meets in...but in saying that...16th looks clear for me so far... :p

[typercivic]

you Sydney guys are complaining....if i organise a meet in Perth i will be the only one who turns up, well there are only 2 in W.A and some random owns the other ha ha

[Philip Lee]

y not just tag along to the JDMST EOMMs.

always a few EP3 there.

[Nepolian]

haha fair enough...busy lifestyle makes it hard to fit meets in...but in saying that...16th looks clear for me so far... :p

What sets us apart from say Japan and the US is that they have a very strong car community.... ie they'll work and live around cars where for us it is a secondary thing. We bitch a moan about how we never have a drag day, a dyno day and when its organised, everyone has something else they have to do.

Aussie laid back mentality I suppose :)

[SuperSteve]

hmm 16th looks alright so far for me aswell i just gotta wait for my next roster and see if im rostered to work. I will keep ya posted for i think we have been long needing a ep3 meet up ! ! ! EP3 MEET UP FTW ! !

[icecrm]

count me in for 16th
just for number i can get some other dudes to bring there honda's (non ep3r)

[Chi]

I have a EP3 coupe can I come lol

BTW This is for someone with an EP3 , posting here in case I forget to tell em.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/3186/bremboontypes0mr.jpg

[sai_ANN]

y not just tag along to the JDMST EOMMs.

always a few EP3 there.

yeah...me...LOL...and this other guy... :p

edit: ^LOL...thanks chi... :)

[Chi]

Di I've read into it and you will need to do a few custom tweaks here and there.

Lke drilling the spacer and getting longer bolts for the rotors, and extended studs.

[sai_ANN]

Di I've read into it and you will need to do a few custom tweaks here and there.

Lke drilling the spacer and getting longer bolts for the rotors, and extended studs.

o.O

bugger...

question is whether i wanna be over ambitious now huh?

thanks anyway... :)

[Chi]

Individuality comes at a price.

[EG5]

I have a EP3 coupe can I come lol



I have 1992 EP3 hatch LOL
Can I tag along too ?

[SuperSteve]

anyone here with ep3 that has installed a engine damper and notice some rattle/ cluck noises while changing gears ?
does the engine damper make a noise when it absorbs the pressure from the engine ??
could it b my engine mounts ?? hahaha u all can call me mr paranoia

[egads]

is it tight? properly installed?

[ekhybrid]

im down for the 16th
EP3Rs ONLY i say
chi is an exception lol

[Philip Lee]

anyone here with ep3 that has installed a engine damper and notice some rattle/ cluck noises while changing gears ?
does the engine damper make a noise when it absorbs the pressure from the engine ??
could it b my engine mounts ?? hahaha u all can call me mr paranoia

i can't offer you answer but i'm planning to get an engine damper too, what brand do you have?

also what engine mounts do you have now?

thanks in advance.

[SuperSteve]

i got m and m honda engine damper aswell as the front top strut i installed it 2day.

im still using stock engine mounts

After the damper installed the car felt better taking off and changing gears. car doesnt hop as much aswell

[ekhybrid]

how much for the damper steve

[Chi]

anyone here with ep3 that has installed a engine damper and notice some rattle/ cluck noises while changing gears ?
does the engine damper make a noise when it absorbs the pressure from the engine ??
could it b my engine mounts ?? hahaha u all can call me mr paranoia

Well on my DC5 i had Js racing and I didnt have this clunk noise.

I think something is installed wrong, or the ETD has put strain on ur mount causing it to stuff up.

But i cant say till i see it in person.

[SuperSteve]

Well on my DC5 i had Js racing and I didnt have this clunk noise.

I think something is installed wrong, or the ETD has put strain on ur mount causing it to stuff up.

But i cant say till i see it in person.

busy 2night ?? lol

[Chi]

busy 2night ?? lol

I am, tomorrow night i might be able to meet up. lol

[SuperSteve]

all good now chi im gonna get a mate to take a look thanks though mate :)

[SuperSteve]

i just uninstalled the m and m honda engine damper and still left my front strut on and the noise rattling problem has dissappeared :| is there a certain way u have to setup the engine damper correctly ?? isnt it just the case of installing it in and tightening it up ??

[egads]

it didnt come with instructions?

well heres a guide for an ingalls damper install
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=81573

[Elwood]

For my own curiosity, the EP3 runs Mcpherson/Double Wishbone like the DC5 correct?

[SuperSteve]

Putting an engine torque damper will increase more stress to one of the mounts as it focuses on the corner.

If you want to have less engien movement then stiffer engine mounts or inserts will do a better job.

Stock mounts are terrible

mate i think what u said is right because b4 when i was driving with the engine damper on i could hear weird noises when cornering

haha i think it may have upset the engine mount. Guess there is no need for it now for ill probably just get some innovative mounts sometime in the really near future

[SuperSteve]

For my own curiosity, the EP3 runs Mcpherson/Double Wishbone like the DC5 correct?

yes someone correct me im wrong but im pretty sure yes


Thanks egads for ur link :D ill install it again and see what happens

[icecrm]

eg5's civic can come on 16th i been in it before

CRAZZZZYY!!!!

[Chi]

mate i think what u said is right because b4 when i was driving with the engine damper on i could hear weird noises when cornering

haha i think it may have upset the engine mount. Guess there is no need for it now for ill probably just get some innovative mounts sometime in the really near future

Well if Kongfu thinks this :


Ask Chi from Sydney and Mugsee from Melb..They are DC5R Professionals!

They got plenty of experience and their opinions are super reliable!

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93501



Then sure I'm right lol.

[mugsee]

*mugsee high-five's Chi*

Just confirming that EP3R's also use mcpherson struts at the front and double wishbone at the the back like DC5's. :thumbsup:

[Chi]

Yep they are MacPherson struts, but I think the EP3 has a shorter wheel base.

Some people say the EP3 over steers more easily than the DC5R because of this.


So Mugsee I heard Tom was the b1tch for your Syd visit in a few weeks time lol lol lol.

[chargeR]

anyone here with ep3 that has installed a engine damper and notice some rattle/ cluck noises while changing gears ?
does the engine damper make a noise when it absorbs the pressure from the engine ??
could it b my engine mounts ?? hahaha u all can call me mr paranoia

My J's torque damper rattled like no tomorrow between shifts and sometimes at idle. It definitely did something however because without it my gruppe M had a tendency to jump out of its allotted slot in the windscreen cowl with engine movement. And then I just got ES motor mount inserts and turfed the j's damper.




So Mugsee I heard Tom was the b1tch for your Syd visit in a few weeks time lol lol lol.

Whatever guy. Think you can sledge me in the EP3 thread and I won't find out. I am everywhere at once :p.

Mugsee will be crying like a baby after 8 hours on 24kg/mm :D.

[Philip Lee]

Yep they are MacPherson struts, but I think the EP3 has a shorter wheel base.

Some people say the EP3 over steers more easily than the DC5R because of this.


So Mugsee I heard Tom was the b1tch for your Syd visit in a few weeks time lol lol lol.

iirc EP3 has same wheelbase as DC5R.

when people comment EP3 being oversteery. do they compare with AUDM DC5R?

[Chi]

Whatever guy. Think you can sledge me in the EP3 thread and I won't find out. I am everywhere at once :p.

Mugsee will be crying like a baby after 8 hours on 24kg/mm :D.

Bwuahaha.

Stiffy goodness.



iirc EP3 has same wheelbase as DC5R.

when people comment EP3 being oversteery. do they compare with AUDM DC5R?


I stand corrected.

These are the guys in Aust and UK and USA.

[mugsee]

Whatever guy. Think you can sledge me in the EP3 thread and I won't find out. I am everywhere at once :p.

Mugsee will be crying like a baby after 8 hours on 24kg/mm :D.

HA! My kidneys are in the best shape they've ever been in and by the time we're through with the 7hour workout, they'll be better than ever before!

According to these two websites, the EP3R and DC5R wheel bases are exactly the same at 2570mm:

http://www.type-r-owners.co.uk/specs.php?specID=4
http://www.lancer-evo.net/community/automotive-archives/7838-honda-integra-type-r-dc5.html

[Philip Lee]

I stand corrected.

These are the guys in Aust and UK and USA.

From Honda Jp factbook, both are 2570mm: EP3 (http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/civic-r/200110/10.html) and DC5 (http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/INTEGRA/200107/14.html)

so wheelbase doesn't make the difference. however tracks are different with DC5R on 1490mm while EP3 is 1470mm.

maybe weight distribution as well.

[Chi]

The AUDM DC5R should be similar to the EP3R due to not having the JDM hub set up which sits out further.

[chargeR]

The AUDM DC5R should be similar to the EP3R due to not having the JDM hub set up which sits out further.

Sorry guy but track takes into account wheel offset as it is measured from tyre centre-line to tyre centre-line. Thus if the track of the EP3R is narrower than the JDM dc5r it is also narrower than the AUDM dc5r.

[Philip Lee]

but it's kinda strange that FL EP3 has front sussy mod to reduce under steer.

so i'd assume EP3 is more understeery than DC5, pre FL at least.

[aaronng]

but it's kinda strange that FL EP3 has front sussy mod to reduce under steer.

so i'd assume EP3 is more understeery than DC5, pre FL at least.
But you don't know how much more or less understeer the DC5 has over the pre or post-FL EP3. From the EP3 reviews, at least from the UK, it seems to have a similar tail-happy characteristic like the DC2 but too a lesser extent.

[Nepolian]

Guys, Ill start a thread in the up coming events soon, keep you eyes peeled :)

[egads]

cheers nepolian!