How often do you redline? What's your normal shift?

[JunYu]

just like to know your driving style, at what rpm do you usually shift when cruising?

and how often do you redline?

I shift at about 2.5 - 3k when driving normally, and i redline at least once a day :p VTEC!! lol

what about you guys!

[ZamueL]

I live very close to work so it is normally a quick sprint down the road to get my honda medacine for the day, changing around 6-7k.
Will normally change around 3 in town etc.

[tron07]

I have never redline on 4th gear or higher before..... cant risk getting a huge fine or license suspended.

[tony1234]

Normally 2-3 k.Once or twice a week vtec.

[V205]

i like changing around 3000-3500 rpm normally.

VTEC maybe once or twice every few mths.. but that's only when the engine is properly warmed up for at least 10-15 minutes.

4500-5000 rpm maybe once or twice every few weeks. It's good to let the engine experience around it's max torque point once every few weeks I think.

There are too many people who baby their car way too much during break in and it's not good for the engine performance.

[pilotb777_300]

I normally shift at around 3500rPM but ever since I got my K&N typhoon CAI on there its been more like 5000 and I hit redline at least once or twice every trip :( it cant be good for the engine but it sounds soooo good ! ohh and my fuel consumption has gone out the window.

[Illegal]

I shift a 4500 regular shifting, 8-9 when racing, I never hit rev limiter (on this motor :) )

[tron07]

Thats a high rev engine... what is it?

[dc2dc2dc2]

isn't this regarding euro's ?

[tron07]

Could be a K20 CL7

[akina]

Shift around 2000-4000rpm and vtec when ever i have the chance

[Lukey13]

i like changing around 3000-3500 rpm normally.

VTEC maybe once or twice every few mths.. but that's only when the engine is properly warmed up for at least 10-15 minutes.

4500-5000 rpm maybe once or twice every few weeks. It's good to let the engine experience around it's max torque point once every few weeks I think.

There are too many people who baby their car way too much during break in and it's not good for the engine performance.

So true! Once my engine's properly warmed up, I'll just about always shift at no less than 5K. I honestly don't think it's bad for the engine which was clearly designed to rev - Honda is reknowned for overengineering.

I was careful about ensuring some decent revving during the break-in period and ever since it's just so easy and natural to get to redline.

Redline is your friend (of course, revlimiter is not a friend).

[aaronng]

i like changing around 3000-3500 rpm normally.

VTEC maybe once or twice every few mths.. but that's only when the engine is properly warmed up for at least 10-15 minutes.

4500-5000 rpm maybe once or twice every few weeks. It's good to let the engine experience around it's max torque point once every few weeks I think.

There are too many people who baby their car way too much during break in and it's not good for the engine performance.

Once or twice every few months anf 4500rpm once or twice every few weeks? You baby your car more than almost everyone here. Hehe. :)

[aaronng]

I live very close to work so it is normally a quick sprint down the road to get my honda medacine for the day, changing around 6-7k.
Will normally change around 3 in town etc.

If you live close to work, then your engine doesn't have enough time to warm up before you use full throttle.

[BiLL|z0r]

I vtec all the time, usually once each trip :). Change gears if using tiptronic around 4k unless holding it on purpose.

[Sherweeeny]

i have vTAKKKKed is a couple times but i really dont see the need, i mean vtec in 1st gear would have u almost break the speed limit, so its not often needed..

its the fuel consumption in the bloody civics that turns to shit if you rev it out to around 5000

[Merlin086]

ahh.....vtec in second on ramp coming on to the hwy...

...every chance I get....every other day.....

...hit cutout probably once a month....oops!

[Illegal]

Thats a high rev engine... what is it?

jdm type-r, my last motor (built) I shifted normal at 5 grand, racing at 9-9200

[shadou]

its the fuel consumption in the bloody civics that turns to shit if you rev it out to around 5000

... I shift minimum about 5k when warm and my civics fuel comp is pretty great for a 1.6 dohc

[J-TODA]

Could be a K20 CL7

dosnet that have redline 8200 or something...

yer i drive normally shifting at around 2500

when vtecing...shift at 7000

[luxobarge]

4k normal driving.... 2k - 2.5k when the petrol light is on. 7k on highway on ramps. Hit cutout... often (damn first gear).

[supersamEK]

revving smoothly through your rev range is not thrashing your car. i laugh when i hear people only rev out their engine once a month. the revs are their for a reason and to be used.. the only thing you are probably goin to lose out on is fuel economy and maybe oil consumption.
thrashing the car is bouncing off the rev limiter all the time, dumping the clutch, spinning the wheels..cornering and throttling through corners like an idiot.
there shouldnt be any ill effects of SENSIBLY revving out your motor until redline( more so peak power point)

[aaronng]

Sensibly revving lengthens the rods and shortens engine life.

[Suntzu]

Sensibly revving lengthens the rods and shortens engine life.

That depends on what you mean by life...It might make the difference between a reliable engine at 25 000km and 300 000km. Either of which wont matter to me or most people here in the slightest as ill be trading my car between 80 000 and 130 000km depending.

I hit redline probably once a day or so. I shift at about 4500 to 5500rpm.

[aaronng]

If you are not keeping your car til the end of its life, then rev away. :)

[ginganggooly]

My old b-series basically lived at a bees dick off cutout (hondata set 8800rpm)- it was at around 280k km when i decided to retire it.

If you aren't bouncing the motor off the cutout, i don't see why 7200rpm or whatever you rev it to should represent a problem for this engine... I'd be inclined to think that maintenance has a larger, if not equal impact on longevity, when compared to driving style.

[aaronng]

Each track day uses up about 10,000kms worth of engine life. That's with about 60-90 minute's worth of full throttle high RPM driving. Of course, you can always rebuild the engine when it is close to the end.

[ginganggooly]

Each track day uses up about 10,000kms worth of engine life. That's with about 60-90 minute's worth of full throttle high RPM driving. Of course, you can always rebuild the engine when it is close to the end.

On a track day you have different issues at play - fuel and oil starvation, heat soak, severe driveline stresses etc... it's not really comparable to a straight-line surge up/down a freeway onramp.

[80057]

i dont drag anyone at lights so ignore this if your a boyracer, as this will prob be different for u

i enjoy a spritied drive occassionally on a open winding road, i enjoy downshifting to second pushing through around tight bends in 2nd/3rd then pulling out full metal and hitting vtec onto a straight then easing into a cruise in third/fourth/fifth, i find the front end gets and bit heavy when you push vtec in third around any decent corner as euro do have some wieght, so unless your racing i can only see really a 2rd gear vtec (maybe 3rd if u have a man, i have an auto) and example of this is putty road, going out towards hunter from out west. i dont see the point in bouncing of the rev limiter as you gain nothing from it (unless your trying to do a max speed run or something, but who has done that??) the cut off would slow you more then u gain from keeping within that power band.

[Merlin086]

4k normal driving.... 2k - 2.5k when the petrol light is on. 7k on highway on ramps. Hit cutout... often (damn first gear).

You must use the same on ramps as me....:thumbsup:

Second gear cutout is my prob, first gear VTEC happens too quick to enjoy it, bit like SXX....lol

[aaronng]

On a track day you have different issues at play - fuel and oil starvation, heat soak, severe driveline stresses etc... it's not really comparable to a straight-line surge up/down a freeway onramp.

10,000km is assuming that you don't have fuel and oil starvation. :) If you do, you get a nice leaky engine pretty much after the track day.

If you are just doing freeway onramps, just go for it. The 200-400meters does nothing significant to affect your engine life. :)

[eurofan]

for those driving automatic, what's the speed of the car when VTEC engages in second gear? should be > 100kmh right?

[aaronng]

Remember, cops read the forums too. ;)

[Merlin086]

for those driving automatic, what's the speed of the car when VTEC engages in second gear? should be > 100kmh right?

I am not at liberty to say on the grounds I may incriminate myself.....;)

Oh, I don't have to, I drive a manual...lol....:thumbsup:

[Sherweeeny]

who here ACTUALLY notices vtec????

[J-TODA]

^^ yer...well wif comptech... it aint realli that noticeable...jst a higher pitched tone say around 6k rpm and up...

[aaronng]

who here ACTUALLY notices vtec????

On a stock Euro, it's a bit difficult to notice.

[luxobarge]

who here ACTUALLY notices vtec????
Cant really tell the difference in 1st, 2nd its easily noticable (IMO).

[tron07]

2nd gear in manual is almost 100 already.... I think around 80-90. I havent try 4th or 5th vtec before, racing track not long enough. If you did that in the long straight tracks then should be no prob.... :P

[Merlin086]

Great to watch the tacho hit 6k then do 6-7k in half the time it took from 5-6k
(2nd gear vtec is where all the action is)

[80057]

for those driving automatic, what's the speed of the car when VTEC engages in second gear? should be > 100kmh right?
yeh around there,


who here ACTUALLY notices vtec????

1st gear is over with in a hurry so cant really, second gear, windows down stereo off i think u can.


Cant really tell the difference in 1st, 2nd its easily noticable (IMO).:thumbsup:

tho alot less noticable then in my B16a crx.

[aaronng]

One thing I don't like is that I can do 4000-5000rpm quicker in 3rd gear than 6000-7000rpm in 2nd gear. Was very slow on the wakie straight I tell you. Only hit the end of 3rd gear when I had to turn.

[xiang]

shift at 2.5 k normal driving, vtak when ever im in a tunnel!

[eurofan]

On a stock Euro, it's a bit difficult to notice.

true for 5AT, imo.

for 5AT drivers, do you manually up-shift when in VTEC, or just let the auto box do its thing? given the narrow VTEC band, i tend to just rely on auto - it shifts at around 6800rpm for first gear, which is where peak BHP output is, i think.

[aaronng]

The autobox does a good job. Not much point using tiptronic except to hold it in gear when on twisties or when you are at the drag strip and 95% power is just not enough.

[80057]

true for 5AT, imo.

for 5AT drivers, do you manually up-shift when in VTEC, or just let the auto box do its thing? given the narrow VTEC band, i tend to just rely on auto - it shifts at around 6800rpm for first gear, which is where peak BHP output is, i think.

auto most of the time


The autobox does a good job. Not much point using tiptronic except to hold it in gear when on twisties or when you are at the drag strip and 95% power is just not enough.
:thumbsup: as aaron said, i only use tiptronic on twisties, i like the pull back and then power out of turns, the auto is allitle slow and jerky at time here, only on spirited drives, the auto is quite good IMO

[DLRioM]

Isnt the reason for lack of VTEC kick because the i-VTEC has continuously variable camshaft phasing on the intake cam as opposed to just switching between camshaft phases?

[aaronng]

Isnt the reason for lack of VTEC kick because the i-VTEC has continuously variable camshaft phasing on the intake cam as opposed to just switching between camshaft phases?

No, the reason for it on the Euro is that the highcam is not as aggressive. Lowcam on the other hand is very lumpy, even lumpier than a RSX-S, so the transition is very small.

[DLRioM]

So what are we to expect from the advanced VTEC? A kick when ever we put our foot down or no kick at all?

[aaronng]

So what are we to expect from the advanced VTEC? A kick when ever we put our foot down or no kick at all?

Zero kick. It varies cam profile seamlessly based on RPM and possibly throttle position. Just like a Ferrari F430, which has a system that Advanced VTEC is based on has no kick, I don't expect A-VTEC engines to have a kick.

[Merlin086]

2nd gear in manual is almost 100 already.... I think around 80-90. I havent try 4th or 5th vtec before, racing track not long enough. If you did that in the long straight tracks then should be no prob.... :P

I closely watched the tacho and speedo in 2nd gear and vtec engaged at 6000rpm-85kph up to about 7100rpm at 100 kph.

Stock manual.

[aaronng]

If it says 100 at 7100, then that's 96km/h. At cutout of 7300rpm, it should be a bit higher.