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ian
09-08-2004, 02:04 PM
What rim brand & size? What tyre brand & size?

Car: 2000 Honda Civic Vtir coupe (stock)
Application: All rounder for best acceleration (straight runs) and manoeuvrability (twisty roads)
Budget: no budget (practical)
Note: emphasis on performance (not necessarily pretty).

Thanks, I'd appreciate your comments.

ps. is the answer stock wheels???

ekslut
09-08-2004, 02:41 PM
Personally for performance I reckon that 15" x 6.5" is the way to go, get anything lightweight, just look around and find a style you like. Stick with the 195/55 tyre, I like bridgestone GIII's and Falken Azenis (But the falkens wear down very quickly).

On my EK4 I have Oz racing rims the same size as mentioned above. Any wider and I would think it might rub if you have your car lowered. I have used both tyres too. I haven't had a problem with them, although the falkens only lasted about 5000km for me and weren't so good in the wet, so now I am using bridgestone GIII's and they have been really good.

[[d a n n y]]
09-08-2004, 03:46 PM
15x7 (Enkei looks nice too and light)
with any decent coilovers damper adjustable and height..

mytoycivic
09-08-2004, 11:24 PM
good all round tyres that are good in wet and dry are Bridgestone G-grids. they have lasted me nearly 20k and not much sign on wear at all

Kit
09-08-2004, 11:48 PM
I would recommend a 16 x 6.5 wheel... any of the lightweight japanese wheels.

with 205 - 16 - 45 tyres. Depending on what you're after, there are a few tyres I recommend. For good grip but not much mileage, and good price, Falken Azenis RT-215.

For a good combination of grip and mileage, Bridgestone S03.

Chris

Muckafutha
10-08-2004, 12:18 AM
my opinion

205/50/15

bennjamin
10-08-2004, 12:42 AM
15x7 and 205x50x15.....is teh winner combo :)

ian
10-08-2004, 08:53 AM
ok. so, around 15-16inch x 6-6.5, maybe 7inch rim (sounds like what i was expecting.........that's good to hear (7" maybe a bit to wide?)) and tyre size to fit..........bridgestones or falkens sound like the way to go with rubber aye?

more comments coming in? please forward your advise................much appreciated.

Psyklops
10-08-2004, 11:04 AM
205/50R 15 Yokohama A539....they are damn good road tyres...just get em

pornstar
10-08-2004, 11:08 AM
i got this mad set of retreads the other day, on my 18 inch chromies yo, handles mad on my cut srpings.

Psyklops
10-08-2004, 11:12 AM
shhheeet that sounds sick andy!!! me come check out your mad setup....retreads are the shit! :roll:

bigteethygrin
10-08-2004, 11:18 AM
ian.. you have pretty large wheels with expensive tyres.. how do you find the grip on them??

Kit
10-08-2004, 12:28 PM
205/50R 15 Yokohama A539....they are damn good road tyres...just get em

I would recommend against the a539.
they don't grip too well, and the sidewalls are pretty soft.
back in those days, the FM901 was heaps better than the a539

Psyklops
10-08-2004, 12:30 PM
each to their own...I am happy with them

ian
10-08-2004, 12:57 PM
ian.. you have pretty large wheels with expensive tyres.. how do you find the grip on them??

yes, currently rolling on 215/35R18..........i've no problems with them regarding with grip. However, my acceleration suffers.........my reason for a possible wheel change.

ian
10-08-2004, 07:43 PM
I would recommend a 16 x 6.5 wheel... any of the lightweight japanese wheels.

with 205 - 16 - 45 tyres. Depending on what you're after, there are a few tyres I recommend. For good grip but not much mileage, and good price, Falken Azenis RT-215.

For a good combination of grip and mileage, Bridgestone S03.

Chris

i can't find any 16x6.5.........they're either 15x6.5 or 16x7........what brand should i look for Chris?

Kit
10-08-2004, 08:21 PM
oh sorry ian, i made a mistake, I meant 16"x7"

with civics, its important to get a lightweight wheel.

what tyres are you thinking of getting?

7th Gen
10-08-2004, 09:53 PM
i have been thinking about this too, currently i run 16x7's
still got 10K left in my goodyear F1's so when they run out i'm thinking of going to 15's

Taxi-R
11-08-2004, 01:49 AM
just a note abt the bridgestone g3's.

if u want 205/50, u may wish to get the 215/50 as the pricks at bridgestone don't mention that the g3 technology uses a thinner tyre to "achieve" a wider tyres gripping performance. if the look of it aint a big deal for u, then fine...

i got 205/40/17 and when i watched them change my 205/50 re711, i thought "what the f*%^?!?!?!?" according to bridgestone, the g3 205 was abt 17mm thinner than the re711. now i got tyres that look real whimpy (thin). i dun push my car hard ard corners so can't really compare whether the grip levels are comparable or not.

ian
11-08-2004, 08:39 AM
Kit: i'm not sure what sort of tyre but maybe semi slicks? Falkens?......i dunno yet.

How about i put my original rims back on and put some good performance tyres?...........original civic vtir rims are 15x6" right?

egSi
11-08-2004, 08:54 AM
hey man get some good tyres and put ur stockos on and save for some sick light 15x6.5s

ive got new yokies and i havent worn them in yet. i hope they are ok..

Kit
11-08-2004, 10:54 AM
Kit: i'm not sure what sort of tyre but maybe semi slicks? Falkens?......i dunno yet.

How about i put my original rims back on and put some good performance tyres?...........original civic vtir rims are 15x6" right?

you're stockers will definately be a lot lighter than your 18s, but for a 15" they are still pretty heavy.

The Falken Azenis RT-215 actually aren't a semi slick, they look like a semi slick, but are actually a very high performance street tyre, and expect to get only about 20,000km out of them.

I would strongly recommend against running semi slicks on the road. While R compound semi slicks are very very grippy, they are very expensive (about $300 for a 15"), and are probably wasted by putting around on the streets with em. You'll only get about 10,000km out of them

you also need to warm them up before getting maximum grip, when cold they can let go rather abruptly, which is quite dangerous actually.

Scandrew
11-08-2004, 11:36 AM
i have been thinking about this too, currently i run 16x7's
still got 10K left in my goodyear F1's so when they run out i'm thinking of going to 15's

Why are you going back to 15"?

I currently have stock 15" on my car and I was planning to go up to 16x7" for a compromise of looks/performance. Though, I don't mind staying on stock 15" or getting lightweight ones if it's quite a noticeable performance decrease when going up to 16"s.

7th Gen
11-08-2004, 09:15 PM
i have been thinking about this too, currently i run 16x7's
still got 10K left in my goodyear F1's so when they run out i'm thinking of going to 15's

Why are you going back to 15"?

I currently have stock 15" on my car and I was planning to go up to 16x7" for a compromise of looks/performance. Though, I don't mind staying on stock 15" or getting lightweight ones if it's quite a noticeable performance decrease when going up to 16"s.

i hate the ride quality on crappy sydney roads
i'm also one of those people who has 'seen the light' when it comes to stock or OEM stuff, there's a reason why it's so expensive

Scandrew
12-08-2004, 01:01 PM
Oh ok, so even 16" are still a bit rough?
I've 17" chromes on my other car and it rides like shit and is like a snail off the mark.

ian
12-08-2004, 01:39 PM
what brand of rims could be lighter than my stock rims (15x6)?

i've looked at O.Z.racing "RECORD" (5 spoke)........apart from that I'm not a fan of much others..........any suggestions?

Muckafutha
12-08-2004, 03:03 PM
just a note abt the bridgestone g3's.

if u want 205/50, u may wish to get the 215/50 as the pricks at bridgestone don't mention that the g3 technology uses a thinner tyre to "achieve" a wider tyres gripping performance. if the look of it aint a big deal for u, then fine...

i got 205/40/17 and when i watched them change my 205/50 re711, i thought "what the f*%^?!?!?!?" according to bridgestone, the g3 205 was abt 17mm thinner than the re711. now i got tyres that look real whimpy (thin). i dun push my car hard ard corners so can't really compare whether the grip levels are comparable or not.

just a question? wat size is ur 711s? 15s or 17s? im sure there is a difference in the tyre wall between 15" and 17" tyres. Also surely between a 40 series and a 50 series tyre there is a difference

gambate
12-08-2004, 04:09 PM
Volk TE37 !!
15x6.5 is 4kg
15x6 is around 3.8kg
16x7 is about 5kg each

vtc
12-08-2004, 10:25 PM
well this may be a stupid question but when you go from different sizes, say 205/50/15 tire to a 195/55/15... is there any weight differential in the tires? everyone is going on about the weight of rims.. are the weight of tires an issue? or am i just an idiot? hehe

bennjamin
12-08-2004, 11:00 PM
well this may be a stupid question but when you go from different sizes, say 205/50/15 tire to a 195/55/15... is there any weight differential in the tires? everyone is going on about the weight of rims.. are the weight of tires an issue? or am i just an idiot? hehe

....the compressed air inside the tyres limits weights more than the rubber....