DC5 Headers, Which is best?

[EL_DC5]

There are many Headers on the market,
What are the true quality ones that give the most performance???


Please only DC5 there is already a dc2 thread

[Mattski_VTIR]

Toda and Maximworks are a very popular header for DC5, very good quality and good gains! I have toda headers and i'm very happy with them :thumbsup:

[dyljoy]

One more point for Toda! never try Maximworks b4, but it seems a bit overprice.

[JDM.Power]

toda is good, mugen is good also from what ive herd

[EL_DC5]

mugen intakes are shit, so i really dont see there header beeing better than TODA, but if anybody can tell me otherwise, please do it!

[[RSX 03]]

mugen intakes are shit, so i really dont see there header beeing better than TODA, but if anybody can tell me otherwise, please do it!

Well have you tried using the mugen intake with the mugen front bar?

[wuism]

Hytech Headers and Six Sigma Racing(SSR)/Danny Tran Racing(DTR) headers are very good as well.

Hand made in USA.

[maracer]

TODA on my car:thumbsup:

[air23box]

mugen airbox + mugen front bar + mugen header + mugen N1 ECU + Mugen twinloop = Best combination....best balance....
But it doesn't meant the best gain.....
Most output /= best handling
Mugen and M&M come with cat and toda dun....its not road legal......if you compare the price getting toda + good high flow cat + welding + shipping + labour = price of mugen or M&M anyway....Thats what make me to buy mugen.....

[Nepolian]

All depends on budget too. Not everyone wants to spend over 1k for an exhaust let alone a set of extractors. I believe that TODA has very good gains all round, good response.

But if you are going to have a crappy exhaust dont bother with a good header. Budget for what you can afford. You got $ get TODA and Jap cat back.

[Mattski_VTIR]

Mugen and M&M come with cat and toda dun....its not road legal......if you compare the price getting toda + good high flow cat + welding + shipping + labour = price of mugen or M&M anyway....Thats what make me to buy mugen.....

This is true, although Toda AU offer a very reasonable price on there cat/mod. Whats the going rate for a set of Maximworks/Mugen headers just out of curiosity? As they are a quality product and u get what u pay for, i.e xforce v's mugen/maximworks/toda etc, And mugen intakes are NOT sh*t when used in the right combination :thumbsup:

[Nepolian]

Toda sell a street legal version of the headers now I think. i think it's their race header but modified to include a cat.

Yeah, Toda race headers eliminates the cat. You can either cut it down to fit one or Toda supplier can fit one up at extra cost of course.

[kongfu]

TODA header is best bang for bucks 1.5k

Mugen header is about 2.5k

[45SET]

I'll be getting JDM K20a headers fitted shortly

JDM: 4-2-1
AUDM: 4-1

I'll report back once they are all fitted... but from sounds of the reports... for the price i originally paid for them (got them off a friend when he got his K20a front cut) they should be awesome.

[EL_DC5]

Mugen Whore.

The airbox is shit compared to a GruppeM, or even an Injen. Its still a restriction. MUGEN airbox = gay

mugen airbox + mugen front bar + mugen header + mugen N1 ECU + Mugen twinloop = Best combination....best balance....
But it doesn't meant the best gain.....
Most output /= best handling
Mugen and M&M come with cat and toda dun....its not road legal......if you compare the price getting toda + good high flow cat + welding + shipping + labour = price of mugen or M&M anyway....Thats what make me to buy mugen.....

[45SET]

Mugen Whore.

The airbox is shit compared to a GruppeM, or even an Injen. Its still a restriction. MUGEN airbox = gay

far out... if your that pasionate about it make a thread... **** man... get over it.

[[RSX 03]]

far out... if your that pasionate about it make a thread... **** man... get over it.

x2

your a joke EL_DC5

[air23box]

FXXX.......you better make some good common on other ppls post......different have different point of view.....I will also said whatever go on ur car = gay.......you just piss me of.....:mad::thumbdwn:


Mugen Whore.

The airbox is shit compared to a GruppeM, or even an Injen. Its still a restriction. MUGEN airbox = gay

[air23box]

Toda sell a street legal version of the headers now I think. i think it's their race header but modified to include a cat.

yeah...i think I read it some where.....not too sure about the price tho....lol....but apart from mugen.....I also think toda is good too....see it in real person and the finsh is great.....:thumbsup:

[EG5]

mugen intakes are shit, so i really dont see there header beeing better than TODA, but if anybody can tell me otherwise, please do it!

Our customer's (DC5) are running numbers with mugen header + catback
I taught mugen header + catback will not be enough when my customer's car are running some aftermarket cams + kpro . But the results dont lie.

Will head out to WSID soon

[mikoZ]

hey ppl
is dcsport header can be a good option... ?

[m0nty ITR]

I've got TODA headers with HF cat and Fujitsubo PG and Injen CAI. The before run was with just the CAI and catback. After run with the headers and cat.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1207996/BeforeHeaders.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1207996/AfterHeaders.JPG

See the gains for yourself.

[ennavoli]

Mugen Whore.

The airbox is shit compared to a GruppeM, or even an Injen. Its still a restriction. MUGEN airbox = gay

:thumbdwn: to your theory.

The mugen airbox is not shit. It utilizes a short ram intake and has proper cover yet for a cool air intake. It is well balanced, minimizing loss at low RPM yet giving gains at high RPMs. It is proper R&D air intake.

The only downside to the mugen airbox is its price, I would not buy one brand new not because it's not good but it's too overpriced for just an air intake mod.

[XP02ED]

Does anyone here have BC headers? or am i like the only one :S

[Amusevtec]

im gonna try and import some stainless dc sports race headers at the end of the year
ill let ya know :)

If you get em let me know!

And the price son

[mikoZ]

im gonna try and import some stainless dc sports race headers at the end of the year
ill let ya know :)

sweet!!!let me know when u get the stuff , with the price plz

[kongfu]

The only downside to the mugen airbox is its price, I would not buy one brand new not because it's not good but it's too overpriced for just an air intake mod.

Thats your own view ONLY!

MUGEN is a well known aftermarket brand for Honda. You get what u paid for.:thumbsup:


I believe lots of forum members bought it new and they have been enjoy it!:thumbsup:

[ennavoli]

Thats your own view ONLY!

MUGEN is a well known aftermarket brand for Honda. You get what u paid for.:thumbsup:


I believe lots of forum members bought it new and they have been enjoy it!:thumbsup:

Which part of my sentence do you not understand? For your info, not every expensive branded item or JDM = good, you need to do more research.

I also never mentioned that new airbox is not enjoyable, I only mentioned I thought it was overpriced.

Read properly & understand first before you go off on your blind walk.

[air23box]

hey guys....claim down.....lets share more info rather then turn it to a fight.....btw...ennavoli......is ur EP3 with the XXX no plate?....I mean 3 words.....in white? wanna to know whether I know you or not??

[kongfu]

hey guys....claim down.....lets share more info rather then turn it to a fight.....btw...ennavoli......is ur EP3 with the XXX no plate?....I mean 3 words.....in white? wanna to know whether I know you or not??

Eddie, Ennavoli 's EP3 is 2002 model not that 3 letters plate one.

xxx 3 letters plate owner is my mate and his EP3 is 2005 model..

[kongfu]

Which part of my sentence do you not understand? For your info, not every expensive branded item or JDM = good, you need to do more research.

I also never mentioned that new airbox is not enjoyable, I only mentioned I thought it was overpriced.

Read properly & understand first before you go off on your blind walk.

Why are you so pushy man?you got problem?every one here knows you own a EP3 type R. But do not try to be smart ass ok?

What I mean is Mugen is a well-known aftermarket brand for Honda, as Airbox mentioned its worth every cent.

You are not just paying for the parts also you are paying for the brand, R&D cost etc.

[ennavoli]

Why are you so pushy man?you got problem?every one here knows you own a EP3 type R. But do not try to be smart ass ok?

What I mean is Mugen is a well-known aftermarket brand for Honda, as Airbox mentioned its worth every cent.

You are not just paying for the parts also you are paying for the brand, R&D cost etc.

I'm not pushy at all, you're the one trying to act like a smart f&%#

PLUS, you're not understanding this conversion AGAIN, owning an EP3 does not mean anything and it does not relate to what we are discussing as well.

Yes I got a problem with your attitude & understanding.

Who does not know mugen is a well known aftermarket brand? Even YOU know. That does not mean EVERY single MUGEN part is worth its dollar, even if they are of high quality. Get out more to see the world "man"

I bet you are the sort of person who has the expensive/JDM = GOD kind of mentality.

If you want to carry on this discussion further pm me. Do not want to drift away from this topic more.

[kongfu]

I'm not pushy at all, you're the one trying to act like a smart f&%#

PLUS, you're not understanding this conversion AGAIN, owning an EP3 does not mean anything and it does not relate to what we are discussing as well.

Yes I got a problem with your attitude & understanding.

Who does not know mugen is a well known aftermarket brand? Even YOU know. That does not mean EVERY single MUGEN part is worth its dollar, even if they are of high quality. Get out more to see the world "man"

I bet you are the sort of person who has the expensive/JDM = GOD kind of mentality.

If you want to carry on this discussion further pm me. Do not want to drift away from this topic more.

I dont even wanna have a further discussion with you:cool: Stay away:thumbdwn:please keep this thread as clean as possible. :thumbsup:

[45SET]

Alright kids... I think both of you should grow up a little... everyone one in this world is different, and that’s what makes it interesting. If you can't understand that, become a hermit.

O.T: Just had my JDM DC5r headers fitted (after almost a year and a half in the shed :p) After having the front sway bar swapped (I have gone for the whiteline option) and getting the sensor cable extended, all I can say is that they are awesome. Top end has a noticeable improvement, and lower revs have also improved also... goes very nicely with my MUGEN cat back.

The fact that these headers don’t need an aftermarket ECU, or no aftermarket mounts makes them a very good “budget” modification, and I would recommend them for any other DC5 owner looking for a little bit more, but not wanting to spend close to a 1k on a set of headers.

[45SET]

JDM headers come in a 2 peice

Peice 1: 4-2 section. This is the part that attaches to the head

Peice 2: 2-1 section and cat.

You can not run one without the other... you need both... this includes the cat.

[45SET]

naa. using the JDM cat

[Amusevtec]

How much do DC headers or JDM headers cost?

[45SET]

i dunno how much more the JDM cat flows then a metal cat. I never looked into it to tell you the truth (nor did i really care). I got the headers for cheap so put them on.

As for price, i'm sure alot of the importers can get them cheapish. If your after a set a decent set of headers on the cheap, get the JDM ones.

[45SET]

i dunno... never looked into it.

I have heard that JDMyard (or one of those places) sell then, or can get them.

Have a chat to them and see what they say.

[Amusevtec]

Don't DC sports headers come with a cat?

[EG5]

i dunno... never looked into it.

I have heard that JDMyard (or one of those places) sell then, or can get them.

Have a chat to them and see what they say.

Please PM us about jdm dc5r header

[mikoZ]

as i know abt dcsport, they dont have the cat with the header
for me i ll get the dcsport stainless header with PSI matelcat

[mikoZ]

did u get u stainless header? the dc one

[mikoZ]

no, soon
its either jdm or dc sports

hey dude, any result for the dcsport ss header?

[bartek]

toda all the way

[m0nty ITR]

toda all the way

I have to agree. But I know I'm not the only one that's had a lousy experience with our local supplier.

[EL_DC5]

I have to agree. But I know I'm not the only one that's had a lousy experience with our local supplier.

can u pm me "the details" please

[dc4t]

hey dude, any result for the dcsport ss header?

dc sports 4-2-1 headers apparently give u up to a 9.5hp gain @6700rpm.. n only cost around $260 U.S.

[bartek]

if u want problems with it cracing after a few months than buy dc. its like getting xforce or liverpool exhaust to make 1 for u. 1 word .RUBBISH

[markasia]

which trader sells Toda headers???

[m0nty ITR]

which trader sells Toda headers???

I'd recommend getting them from Nengun. (http://www.nengun.com/toda/exhaust-manifold) They're cheaper than all Australian suppliers and great delivery times for an O.S. supplier.

[Mattski_VTIR]

Adrian at Toda can help you out, as they do the Cat mod. If you buy them seperatley you will have to get someone else to weld a cat on, which can lead to knocking cracking if not dont correctly. TODA AU has a jig set up for the header mod

[m0nty ITR]

Adrian at Toda can help you out, as they do the Cat mod. If you buy them seperatley you will have to get someone else to weld a cat on, which can lead to knocking cracking if not dont correctly. TODA AU has a jig set up for the header mod

Yet my car needs to be repaired for this exact reason. I originally thought the knocking noise was due to the torque damper. When I removed the damper the car still did it. We traced it back to the headers. There's also a bolt bending an exhaust sensor behind the cat. Work done by Toda AU.

Question, my car is being turned into a fully fledged track car. Is it worth getting the flexijoint fitted back on when removing the cat?

[Mattski_VTIR]

Thats strange, as i have never had any trouble / knocking with my headers, for the minimul power in crease do the right thing and just leave the cat on ;)
What catback are u running?

[m0nty ITR]

Thats strange, as i have never had any trouble / knocking with my headers, for the minimul power in crease do the right thing and just leave the cat on ;)
What catback are u running?

Fujitsubo Power Getter. Issues actually arose with the car after the headers were fitted. looking at the installation I'm really not surprised.

[Mattski_VTIR]

The instalation? Really, well i fitted mine with no problems, sway bar and all! I take it you had the sway bar fitted?

[m0nty ITR]

Yeah, the JDM EP3 sway bar. I'm gonna have them refitted in the next week or so.

[Mattski_VTIR]

Yeah, the JDM EP3 sway bar. I'm gonna have them refitted in the next week or so.

Same as what i'm running, although i have a Toda Cat back as well! Sorry to hear about your drama's, hope u get it all sorted :thumbsup:

[TODA AU]

Yet my car needs to be repaired for this exact reason. I originally thought the knocking noise was due to the torque damper. When I removed the damper the car still did it. We traced it back to the headers. There's also a bolt bending an exhaust sensor behind the cat. Work done by Toda AU.

Question, my car is being turned into a fully fledged track car. Is it worth getting the flexijoint fitted back on when removing the cat?

Sam, why are you carrying on like you were deliberately f@cked over?
Normal people contact the workshop, vendor or supplier when they have an issue…
Yet, to date you have failed to phone, email, pm or even drop in to express any of your concerns…
Just this bitch session online & a variety of other snide remarks

In any case, If you’d actually let us know you had a problem,
You’d then know that we would be more than happy to resolve it for you & you’d probably be a lot less angry.

As for your test pipe (to remove the cat) to fit your header
It’s been sitting here for months waiting for you to come & collect it.
& it includes a flex…

[m0nty ITR]

You carry your business online like that? Real professional Adrian.

What about your comments about Dyno Dave? I'd never bag anyone from my industry yet you felt the need to have a shot at him.

You've overeacted to comments that only arose due to poor customer service. A good supplier would've called me rather than openly flaming his customers online.

[mugsee]

Yet my car needs to be repaired for this exact reason. I originally thought the knocking noise was due to the torque damper. When I removed the damper the car still did it. We traced it back to the headers. There's also a bolt bending an exhaust sensor behind the cat. Work done by Toda AU.

Question, my car is being turned into a fully fledged track car. Is it worth getting the flexijoint fitted back on when removing the cat?

Flex joint definitely, unless if you run extremely solid engine mounts that produce no flex on the engine. Last thing you want is your headers to crack. :thumbsup:

[Mattski_VTIR]

Flex joint definitely, unless if you run extremely solid engine mounts that produce no flex on the engine. Last thing you want is your headers to crack. :thumbsup:

Would cry if my headers cracked :( I need some engine mount inserts to help prevent this :thumbsup:

[TODA AU]

You carry your business online like that? Real professional Adrian.

You've overeacted to comments that only arose due to poor customer service. A good supplier would've called me rather than openly flaming his customers online.

Sam, is it really an overreaction to simply point out to you that there is an easier way to solve your problems?
Considering you had warranty on products supplied & fitted at a good price,
together with the use of a loan car whilst the work was being completed.
Quite frankly it’s difficult to understand exactly where you’re coming from.
& I fail to see how this is in any way unprofessional or flaming you.

The offer is there for a fix, it's up to you if you take it or leave it.

[aaronng]

You carry your business online like that? Real professional Adrian.

What about your comments about Dyno Dave? I'd never bag anyone from my industry yet you felt the need to have a shot at him.

You've overeacted to comments that only arose due to poor customer service. A good supplier would've called me rather than openly flaming his customers online.

From Adrian's post, I don't see any overreaction. He's telling you that you have warranty and that Toda Au can fix it for you under warranty. Seems that instead of contacting them about your problem, your first reaction was to blame them up here on Ozhonda.

[e240]

Yet my car needs to be repaired for this exact reason. I originally thought the knocking noise was due to the torque damper. When I removed the damper the car still did it. We traced it back to the headers. There's also a bolt bending an exhaust sensor behind the cat. Work done by Toda AU.

Question, my car is being turned into a fully fledged track car. Is it worth getting the flexijoint fitted back on when removing the cat?

I have to agree with Aaronng here.

You've have come online and questioned someone's rep publicly (Telling only one side o the story), they are definately entitled to come online to clarify as well.

How do you expect a trader to know you've had a problem when you don't tell them directly? They certainly cannot afford to follow up with each individual. Hope you understand.

Anyway, the problem is easily solved - a offer is on the table to get it fixed, you should go down and see the trader, I'm sure they're not that petty as to hold a grudge. One big mis-communication here..thats all.

[m0nty ITR]

:confused:

I didn't realize the customer is the one that has to make all the effort to make sure everything is OK. I waited 8 weeks after paying in full within 10 minutes of speaking to Adrian on the phone. I was given stories on 4 different occasions as to why the headers weren't available. Each time the phone calls were instigated by me. Never did TODA AU contact me for an update. Not once in 8 weeks.

Then when I was booked in to get the headers fitted I was told the person that booked me in shouldn't have done that. To be honest, I didn't give a toss. They were the ones that booked me in. I took the day off work and traveled from Hornsby to Wetherill Park first thing in the morning to be told I had to go away again.

I didn't cop that after being bounced so many times already. Only after causing a scene was I offered a loan car. The gesture was appreciated albeit a bitter sweet compensation. I then had to travel all the way back to Wetherill Park to pick up the car at 6:30pm.

The straight pipe wasn't in stock when I had the headers fitted and was told I'd get a call when they arrived. yet again, no contact was instigated by TODA AU. This time I wasn't going to give them business. That was my decision and my right.

To now be chastised for voicing my experience is a little disheartening. A customer should not be questioned by their supplier for not being happy. The supplier should go out of their way to make sure the customer is satisfied. I would've thought fellow OH members would be a little more receptive to words of someone who had a bad experience rather than blaming me for not coming to a suitable solution.

If traders put themselves on these forums, they should expect that they put themselves in front of an audience that will not always be happy. After all, the internet is just another medium for speaking one's voice. Would it be any different if I said so out on the street?

[e240]

:To now be chastised for voicing my experience is a little disheartening. A customer should not be questioned by their supplier for not being happy. The supplier should go out of their way to make sure the customer is satisfied.

Oh, don't be mistaken - we're having a conversation and you are not being chastised for voicing your experience, just that you should expect to have a reponse as well especially when it involves another party.

You have PM.

[Bludger]

:confused:

I didn't realize the customer is the one that has to make all the effort to make sure everything is OK.
Its a shared responsibility of trader and client
I waited 8 weeks after paying in full within 10 minutes of speaking to Adrian on the phone. I was given stories on 4 different occasions as to why the headers weren't available. Each time the phone calls were instigated by me. Never did TODA AU contact me for an update. Not once in 8 weeks.
from what i understand, they are a very busy workshop and probably your things hadn't arrived yet.

Then when I was booked in to get the headers fitted I was told the person that booked me in shouldn't have done that. To be honest, I didn't give a toss. They were the ones that booked me in. I took the day off work and traveled from Hornsby to Wetherill Park first thing in the morning to be told I had to go away again.nothing here sounds out of the ordinary, you don't expect them to come to you?

I didn't cop that after being bounced so many times already. Only after causing a scene was I offered a loan car. you caused a scene?
The gesture was appreciated albeit a bitter sweet compensation. I then had to travel all the way back to Wetherill Park to pick up the car at 6:30pm.

The straight pipe wasn't in stock when I had the headers fitted and was told I'd get a call when they arrived. yet again, no contact was instigated by TODA AU. This time I wasn't going to give them business. That was my decision and my right.

To now be chastised for voicing my experience is a little disheartening.
sounds like more than voicing, more like insulting
A customer should not be questioned by their supplier for not being happy.
why not? how else would they be able to improve?
The supplier should go out of their way to make sure the customer is satisfied.
i run a business, and i try my best to look after customers, but if the customer wants me to kiss their feet, i'll tell them to **** off.
there are limits
I would've thought fellow OH members would be a little more receptive to words of someone who had a bad experience rather than blaming me for not coming to a suitable solution.
we are receptive, but not everyone will agree with you
If traders put themselves on these forums, they should expect that they put themselves in front of an audience that will not always be happy. After all, the internet is just another medium for speaking one's voice. Would it be any different if I said so out on the street?rant?

[mikoZ]

if u want problems with it cracing after a few months than buy dc. its like getting xforce or liverpool exhaust to make 1 for u. 1 word .RUBBISH

how come u say that?

[mikoZ]

I'd recommend getting them from Nengun. (http://www.nengun.com/toda/exhaust-manifold) They're cheaper than all Australian suppliers and great delivery times for an O.S. supplier.

nengun is good , truly
but need a long time waitting recently... dunno y...

[m0nty ITR]

nengun is good , truly
but need a long time waitting recently... dunno y...

Big warehouse maybe? Or perhaps they don't actually carry the stock. They order as needed to keep stock levels as low as possible. I'll be ordering the majority of my stuff from them because I'm never really in a rush to get the parts.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

shit sorry to hear about your misfortune monty.

will you be taking the car back to toda au though?

[fatboyz39]

Poor fitment? wouldn't think it would be the header itself? or it could be? or could it be the installer?

Could you take a pic please.

[Nepolian]

Poor fitment? wouldn't think it would be the header itself? or it could be? or could it be the installer?

Could you take a pic please.


x 2 :thumbsup:

I know this isnt a rep post. But I have also bought a Toda header for myself and have fitted one to a DC5 with a EP3 bar.

All I can say is that I rate Adrian's professionalism very high.

The DC5 with a EP3 bar has tons of clearance, dont know how the header or bar can cause a knock?? They can be only fitted one way??

Maybe the front or rear engine mount are shagged. Seen it on heaps and makes a big knock when changing gears.

[destrukshn]

Toda is offering a fix under warranty
they gave you a loan car, because there was a misunderstanding
parts sometimes takes time to come here, and there maybe complications, someone waited for 4 months for a muffler, because it was lost through the courier, that is not todas fault for that case.
toda have called me, when something of mine has arrived.
they are offering a solution, take it, there's no fee to you, i just don't understand why your complaining so much about it.

[bartek]

sam. get a life u f......t!!!

[bartek]

or buy a commodore, than ull be able 2 get ur parts from repco straight away.

[m0nty ITR]

This site and some of it's members are certainly living up to it's reputation. I'm actually embarrased for you bartek.
As a car dealer if my service department did this we would be buried in complaints and bad word of mouth. Because TODA AU are sponsors of this site they get a bunch of fanboys jumping to their defence.

If anyone here was getting their car serviced by a Honda service department and they didn't have the parts in stock after booking you in you'd flip out. The exact same thing happened to me twice with TODA yet it's all good because he's one of you guys. Face it, the hypocracy isn't fair and either are the comments from people like bartek.

[fatboyz39]

There are other people out there waiting for there group buy toda headers. I know of someone who have waited since the group buy in the west coast.

[Bludger]

This site and some of it's members are certainly living up to it's reputation. I'm actually embarrased for you bartek.
As a car dealer if my service department did this we would be buried in complaints and bad word of mouth. Because TODA AU are sponsors of this site they get a bunch of fanboys jumping to their defence.

If anyone here was getting their car serviced by a Honda service department and they didn't have the parts in stock after booking you in you'd flip out. The exact same thing happened to me twice with TODA yet it's all good because he's one of you guys. Face it, the hypocracy isn't fair and either are the comments from people like bartek.

i wasn't jumping to their sefence, i was having a go at you cos you were crying.

DNT-CRY

[Mattski_VTIR]

sometimes its hard to believe comments on the internet, especially after dealing with adrian numerous times
nothing but praise from me, always willing to chat on the phone to help work things out

:thumbsup:

[XP02ED]

This site and some of it's members are certainly living up to it's reputation. I'm actually embarrased for you bartek.
As a car dealer if my service department did this we would be buried in complaints and bad word of mouth. Because TODA AU are sponsors of this site they get a bunch of fanboys jumping to their defence.

If anyone here was getting their car serviced by a Honda service department and they didn't have the parts in stock after booking you in you'd flip out. The exact same thing happened to me twice with TODA yet it's all good because he's one of you guys. Face it, the hypocracy isn't fair and either are the comments from people like bartek.

agreed.. although agreeing in general... people defend on there experience... not on yours.. at the end of it.. your at the current situation and not people here..

[buzz]

yep ive heard toda is the best around

:thumbsup: :angel:

[Benson]

or buy a commodore, than ull be able 2 get ur parts from repco straight away.

i think you should stop there:thumbdwn:, a member on this forum has express his experience with a workshop and has voice opinion. If you have nothing constructive to say i think you should stfu!

Goodluck monty_ITR hope things work out for the best for you

[jdmTYPE R]

leave the poor guy along his just sharing his thoughts on the service he recieved, anybody who pays good money should get the treatment they payed for.

[Samo]

not a fan of toda products or services but i think if u had problems with the parts fitted to ur car u should call them and say "hey man, something doesnt seem right here", as u sed there was suppose to be a str8 pipe on the way meaning its not a finished product?

its like if u buy a new honda, and something failed, say g/box making grinding noises and crunches ...
do u
1: keep driving and whinge like a lil boy going everywhere telling everyone dat honda is sh!t, and not go into honda a report it?
2: go in honda and report it ? a short it out

like they do know if something fail unless u tell them, if u dont tell them they just assume everything is ok

my 2 cents

[bartek]

mate u sound like ur one of those mormans. wake up to urself, the world doesnt revolve around u n ur car. n dnt even comment on car dealers, next to lawyers they the biggest bunch of lying crooks. i wonder if u guys ring up every client that u have changed oil for or a nappy in ur case.

[Benson]

Back to the topic,

OEM JDM headers are tops :thumbsup:

OEM FTW!

[mikoZ]

i think you should stop there:thumbdwn:, a member on this forum has express his experience with a workshop and has voice opinion. If you have nothing constructive to say i think you should stfu!


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[fatboyz39]

leave the poor guy along his just sharing his thoughts on the service he recieved, anybody who pays good money should get the treatment they payed for.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::honda:

[Ray_mon]

I've only heard good things about the toda headers. I was going to get mine but saving for my dream car instead.

[45SET]

Back to the topic,

OEM JDM headers are tops :thumbsup:

OEM FTW!

yep... 1k km and still loving them.

to monty... grow up... what do you expect, for a company to ring you every few months to make sure the product is ok... they would have A LOT more customers then yourself... and i'm sure they don't sit by the phone waiting for your call to make sure your happy with the product. If there is something wrong, tell the people who are going to do something about it... not some random group of people on the internet who couldn't care less.

Toda AU have offered to fix the problem (after you bad mouthed them publicly), yet your still cry about it, either take there fix, or get over it. If you go through life having a winge about everything, you'll become one of those annoying people you see in a shopping centre going rank at the 17 year old shop assistant. I have actually dealt with Adrian first hand (phone call) and I was actually supprised i got a phone call from him telling me all the information about what i bought... if anything i was quiet happy with his service.

But at the end of the day... this thread is about which header is best for the AUDM DC5r (not who can winge the best)... and I rate the JDM DC5r headers.

[XP02ED]

I have actually dealt with Adrian first hand (phone call) and I was actually supprised i got a phone call from him telling me all the information about what i bought... if anything i was quiet happy with his service.

HE has a problem.. and its HIS experience.. your talking about your experience not his.. so put your shoes in his position.. reality is.. any person here who had the same experience.. would be pissed..

[EL_DC5]

Man, the hole point of forums is to share experiences and knowledge. I don't understand why people are so sensitive to this guys experience, he sounds passionate and fed up. Let him bitch.

Not everybodys experiences will be the same with any vendor or workshop.

Anyways who knows where to source some OEM JDM headers

[45SET]

Last I heard Yonas has one set left... but i dunno if another member of the forum snapped those up just yet... best PM him.

Yes true, this is a public forum, and he can have a winge... but the fact he is complaining about it, and he hasn't even gone back to them yet is not good.

I had a simular thing happen to me recently, I told the workshop in question what i thought of there service and rate of pay, and had the car towed to another workshop. CENTRAX (my current workshop) have done a fair bit of the work to my car, and every time i take it away, they tell me, "if you have any problems with the work, or something dosn't feel right, either call us or bring the car back in and we'll look at it stright away". And i'm sure every workshop that does performance modifications would say the same thing. The fact Monty didn't even go back to Toda before having a go at them online was not only low, but didn't even give TODA AU a chance to fix the problem. Sure if Toda didn't want a bar of it when he went back to them, and wouldn't own up to it he would have something to winge about... but everyone saw Adrians post, and everyone clearly saw that it was even news to him that Monty wasn't happy with the product.

[EL_DC5]

and my I ask who you are in relation to Monty or Toda????

Because i would hate having a difference in opinion to you. you mite talk shit about me for expressing my opinion....

[45SET]

Monty: never met him before
Toda: purchased one product off them

Reason for comments: I don't see why he has had a winge before even going back to the company. Its a forum, and i can say what i want (like monty has done)

[XP02ED]

how bout we stop winging and flaming.. toda said they will provide warranty.. so go get it fixed with them..

and stick to the subject..

[Nepolian]

Last I heard Yonas has one set left... but i dunno if another member of the forum snapped those up just yet... best PM him.

Yes true, this is a public forum, and he can have a winge... but the fact he is complaining about it, and he hasn't even gone back to them yet is sad. I had a simular thing happen to me recently, i told the workshop in question what i thought of there service and rate of pay, and had the car towed to another workshop. CENTRAX (my current workshop) have done a fair bit of the work to my car, and every time i take it away, they tell me, "if you have any problems with the work, or something dosn't right, either call us or bring the car back in and we'll look at it stright away". And i'm sure every workshop that does performance modifications would say the same thing. The fat Monty didn't even go back to Toda before having a go at them online was not only low, but didn't even give TODA AU a chance to fix the problem. Sure if Toda didn't want a bar of it when he went back to them, and wouldn't own up to it he would have something to winge about... but everyone saw Adrians post, and everyone clearly saw that it was even news to him that Monty wasn't happy with the product.


No one is saying that monty does not have the right to have a bitch. He has a right to!

But, Adrian and all other vendors cant fix what they dont know. The fact that Monty carried on when Adrian offered a solution is what made some people irate.

Complaints like the one stated should be kept via 'PM'. Maybe made public as a last resort.

Back to the point. I researched heaps and eneded with TODA. Probably cost more that they should. But the quality is next to none and the gains are proven and thats a big reason why I got it aswell. Remember that no one makes you buy anything.

Hope it works out for ya Monty :)

[EL_DC5]

So can i get some info on who would stock new OEM JDM DC5R headers??

I want Toda Exhaust and Adrien said that its better if i get them. cause you need to modify the cat if i want to put the exhaust on my STD Type S , I dont have the money to get the header aswell

[45SET]

When i posted up that i got the JDM headers on my car a few people where keen on them. I PM'D Yonas from JDM Yard to inform him that a few people where interested in them (I heard they had some) and to check out this thread. He said that he had 1 left at the time. Other then that, ask anyone that has done a K20a swap into there Civic or Teg, as they normally come with the headers. See if they still have them.

[TODA AU]

So can i get some info on who would stock new OEM JDM DC5R headers??


Toda Exhaust and Adrien said that it better if i get them. cause you need to modify the cat if i want to put the exhaust on my Type S

If this is what you want to use, defiantly try Yonas (EG5) @ JDMYard :thumbsup:
Re: OEM JDM DC5 Type R headers.
For both DC5 Type R & Type S they are a straight bolt-on, but you’ll still need to sort out the sway bar.
Std cay back or JDM cat back will attach without issue.
For Type S, JDM DC5 Type R lower arms & swaybar are a direct bolt-on.
(Cannot be used on AUDM Type R without stub axle change also due to incorrect ball joints)
Cheaper alternative is to use the EP3 bar.

The cat needs to be modified (rear of cat) when fitting std JDM header to base model integra with std cat back.
If aftermarket JDM cat back is used, no changes are required to JDM header (regardless of DC5 model)
Hope that helps…

[mikoZ]

any one here got experience of using mugen 4-2-1 header?
any one recommend to use mugen 4-2-1 header?

[EL_DC5]

Adrien, What is the difference between the AU DC5R Headers and CAT to the AU DC5S????

If I change to AU DC5R headers and Cat is it a down grade?And will it solve my problem about "straight bolt-on Toda Exhaust"





If this is what you want to use, defiantly try Yonas (EG5) @ JDMYard :thumbsup:
Re: OEM JDM DC5 Type R headers.
For both DC5 Type R & Type S they are a straight bolt-on, but you’ll still need to sort out the sway bar.
Std cay back or JDM cat back will attach without issue.
For Type S, JDM DC5 Type R lower arms & swaybar are a direct bolt-on.
(Cannot be used on AUDM Type R without stub axle change also due to incorrect ball joints)
Cheaper alternative is to use the EP3 bar.

The cat needs to be modified (rear of cat) when fitting std JDM header to base model integra with std cat back.
If aftermarket JDM cat back is used, no changes are required to JDM header (regardless of DC5 model)
Hope that helps…

[air23box]

DC5S is same as JDM DC5R

[TODA AU]

Adrien, What is the difference between the AU DC5R Headers and CAT to the AU DC5S????

If I change to AU DC5R headers and Cat is it a down grade?And will it solve my problem about "straight bolt-on Toda Exhaust"

The TODA exhaust system is a direct bolt on to the AUDM DC5 Type S.
There are no changes required at all.

Regarding differences between AU DC5 Type R & AU DC5 Type S,
The difference is in the cat back system. The DC5 Type S has slightly larger piping & a larger rear muffler.
The header is pretty much identical.
You wouldn't need to change your standard header to use a TODA cat back system. It will bolt on without issue.
For DC5 Type R, there is an extension on the rear hanger & this needs to be trimed on some cars to prevent knocking.
It's just a tail from the std hanger & not important or stuctural.

Regarding problem with being a straight bolt-on,
Did someone tell you, you would have a problem?
It's odd as I haven't come accross any problems to date.
Cheers

Adrian

[45SET]

For AUDM DC5r: I had an exhuast leak from header to catback back when i put my Mugen catback on. Since putting the JDM Headers on no leak :D

[mikoZ]

how many hp will be gained from mugen 4-2-1 manifold...for dc5,
and is toda better than mugen?