Lacking torque at low-mid rpm

[Euro76]

I'm satisfied with experience driving the Euro 6MT. The gear change is just very superb and nicely balanced. However the car don't have serious urge from standing start...feel so lack in torque low-mid range but mid-high feels strong. I feel that every Euro owners can see my point

I need to somewhat improve the low-mid range torque, is any CAI system or plug-in K&N filter in Euro standard airbox would improve the low-mid range? I don't want to change exhaust or headers or even putting any forced induction. Any suggestions? Thanks again :cool:

[snYpz]

i think the comptech icebox improves low to mid torque if memory serves correctly. I think mugen airbox or anything along those lines should improve low end torque slightly.

[Merlin086]

If you're serious go for the jtune extreme.
...or at least the mild flash with a good cai.

The problem with off the line it's a big gap with a low 1st gear and a high 2nd.
I find you lose momentum and by the time your in 2nd the revs are too low to have any urge. Try doing a straight shift from 1st to 2nd and you will notice a big difference in acceleration off the line.
Granny changes make less difference to other gear changes.

[tron07]

what car are you comparing it to?

[EuroDude]

Be careful which intake you get, some increase power at high revs but decrease power at low revs. But then again, you probably wont notice any difference. The stock intake is tuned quite well..

[tony1234]

Anyone have any experience with a K&N filter,the one that drops into the standard airbox?Is it worthwhile getting?Can get one on ebay for $89.

[Merlin086]

what car are you comparing it to?

I've been used to driving 6's and V8's with more torque.

[Lukey13]

I understand where you're coming from given my previous car (forced induction 6 cylinder) was churning out some 400nm of torque at around the 2000rpm mark. I agree the Euro only begins to pull with a bit of force in the mid-high end range. But of course it drives beautifully anyway.

I too don't want to go down the path of headers and exhaust as I just love the quietness of the Euro. My solution to improve the Euro's low-mid range torque is:

A. Comptech Icebox (quietest intake which provides the most low down torque)
B. Hondata mild reflash

Good luck getting your hands on an Icebox though...

[enkay]

u can get comptech parts now easily again, well in the american forums they got it back in stock, so i assume it will start to show up in ebay again now hehe

[Euro76]

Thanks...I would look into Comptech Icebox first. How much does it cost? Where can I get it from?

[aaronng]

It's an NA engine. You can't expect it to have full torque at low RPM. If you want to free up more torque, get a lightweight flywheel. An intake is not going to do much.

[tony1234]

I understand where you're coming from given my previous car (forced induction 6 cylinder) was churning out some 400nm of torque at around the 2000rpm mark. I agree the Euro only begins to pull with a bit of force in the mid-high end range. But of course it drives beautifully anyway.

I too don't want to go down the path of headers and exhaust as I just love the quietness of the Euro. My solution to improve the Euro's low-mid range torque is:

A. Comptech Icebox (quietest intake which provides the most low down torque)
B. Hondata mild reflash

Good luck getting your hands on an Icebox though...
Agreed.I also like how quiet the Euro is.I'll also get the Jtune reflash and instead of the icebox i'll probably get a drop in K&N filter.

[BiLL|z0r]

Anyone have any experience with a K&N filter,the one that drops into the standard airbox?Is it worthwhile getting?Can get one on ebay for $89.

I have 1 and didn't notice any difference to be honest. Maybe some but that's more likely to having a clean filter vs a dirty OEM 1.

[Miz_II_Die_IV]

wat is a resonator... ive got a auto... any pics of how to remove it.. also wat is it for.. sorry... im a girl...

[Merlin086]

wat is a resonator... ive got a auto... any pics of how to remove it.. also wat is it for.. sorry... im a girl...

Don't apologise for being a girl, as long as u luv Hondas.......:thumbsup:

Description of a resonator....

http://www.innerauto.com/Automotive_Systems/Exhaust_System/Resonator/

[Lukey13]

I've just obtained a quote from Comptech (directly) for the Icebox. $169 USD doesn't sound too bad at all. However you might want to prepare yourself for the cost of shipping..... $178.58 USD :eek:

There must be another place to get the Icebox from without such a shipping expense...

[Suntzu]

I reckon my 05 6sp manual euro with Fujita Intake and topspeed header has a bit more torque in the 3000-5500 rpm range. Based on my scientific buttoscope readings. :)

When i get my mild reflash ill be sweet as!

[tony1234]

I've just obtained a quote from Comptech (directly) for the Icebox. $169 USD doesn't sound too bad at all. However you might want to prepare yourself for the cost of shipping..... $178.58 USD :eek:

There must be another place to get the Icebox from without such a shipping expense...
They're kidding on the shipping:eek:More than the Icebox.WTF!BTW i'm also interested in one.

[yfin]

try Acura of Escondido - they are on ebay

[EUR003act]

Anyone have any experience with a K&N filter,the one that drops into the standard airbox?Is it worthwhile getting?Can get one on ebay for $89.

yeah i had one before i got the CAI - you couldnt notice any difference i dont think... i only used it for 2 months, ill sell you mine for $60 if your keen?

[Pumped]

try Acura of Escondido - they are on ebay

im pretty sure there ebay shop closed :(

[enkay]

u could try http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Comptech-Ice-Box-Cold-Air-Box-04-TSX-330-155-pr-45315.html
dunno how much shippin would b from them but u could try haha