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G-Stick
16-11-2007, 01:01 AM
hey guys i was just wondering who has got the fastest non-conversion and N/A dc2 vtir in Australia down the 1/4? :D

thanks :thumbsup:
Duy

ginganggooly
16-11-2007, 07:40 AM
Mine ran a 14.2@97 before it left me...

DUST
16-11-2007, 09:25 AM
Mine ran up against a Corrolla sportivo and i owned the mofo!

HONDA VT@K > TOYOTA VVTI

_FeRiO_
16-11-2007, 09:49 AM
ive actually been wondering about this for a while now. Good thread G-Stick!

14.2! very nice time man! care to share with us the mods done during that run?

z3lda
16-11-2007, 01:41 PM
first time on the 1/4

14.63 @ 98 mph 60' 2.3

a whooping 35 degrees on the day

complete full interior trim

G-Stick
16-11-2007, 03:00 PM
first time on the 1/4

14.63 @ 98 mph 60' 2.3

a whooping 35 degrees on the day

complete full interior trim

was that with the b20 or the b18?

35 degs? shiit

cheers
Duy

_FeRiO_
16-11-2007, 03:47 PM
Whoa. is that type R or Vti-r?
Thats pretty quick for a 2.3 60ft.

I only managed a 14.9 with a 2.1 60ft on a mild 20 something degrees day.

Great effort man

G-Stick
16-11-2007, 10:24 PM
hrmm.. maybe i should wait till the weather cools down... nahh.. lol


hey ginganggooly would u mind sharing the list of mods u had?

because ill be running my car in about 2 weeks and i was just wondering what other vtirs are doing :)

IEVAQ8
16-11-2007, 11:53 PM
gud luck ginganggooly, 14.2 impressive time for vtir
considering i only manage a 14.2 in my dc2r(headers, exhaust, cai, tuned VAFC, coilovers, semi-slicks and 14degree night)
wat mods did u have to get that fast?

Malenic1981
17-11-2007, 12:00 AM
Pretty good to get 14.2 from VTi-R, I did 14.7 with type R (I/H/E plus coilovers), but than again my mate bought the car of me and pulled 14.3 with it, I guess he is better driver when it comes to drags hehe

My other friend has VTi-R he went once for drags and pulled 15.5 (I/H/E) and riding on 17s

G-Stick
18-11-2007, 07:18 PM
anyone else out there that can pull better then 14.2?

thanks for the replies yo

ginganggooly
19-11-2007, 08:22 AM
gud luck ginganggooly, 14.2 impressive time for vtir
considering i only manage a 14.2 in my dc2r(headers, exhaust, cai, tuned VAFC, coilovers, semi-slicks and 14degree night)
wat mods did u have to get that fast?

2.1 60'

goodyear eagle gsd3
jdm 4-1 header
2.5" zorst
home made cai
skunk2 im
hondata

i think the ambient temp was about 30 degrees that day...


You should be running mid-high 13's with those mods... you'd probably get that sort of time if you had a proper ecu + tune.

BlitZ
19-11-2007, 08:32 AM
unconverted? heheheeh an ITR part built b18bc2?

ginganggooly
19-11-2007, 08:57 AM
unconverted? heheheeh an ITR part built b18bc2?

So what did your ITR setup run again danski?? :p
i ran approximately the same times with both setups :wave:
i was about 5/100'ths slower with the oem setup than i was with the itr cams.

I think the extra 50k km between setup runs was the reason.

fatboyz39
19-11-2007, 09:02 AM
ginganggooly car freaky b18c! hahaha...

Benson
19-11-2007, 09:11 AM
Sweet times slim.... this jsut goes to show why b18c cant get into the mid to low 14's with I/H/E + a good tune. Anything is possible ;)

_FeRiO_
19-11-2007, 12:27 PM
what power were you putting out Ginganggooly?

Im planning on getting mine tuned fairly soon, and hopefully be able to break 14.5

ginganggooly
19-11-2007, 12:44 PM
i can't remember the exact figure dude... I think it was about 115kw atw.

_FeRiO_
19-11-2007, 02:17 PM
Very nice!
Looks like you have taken the title so far

BlitZ
19-11-2007, 02:30 PM
So what did your ITR setup run again danski?? :p
i ran approximately the same times with both setups :wave:
i was about 5/100'ths slower with the oem setup than i was with the itr cams.

I think the extra 50k km between setup runs was the reason.

im talking about my motor... b18c2:thumbsup:

im running teg vtir motor la..

ginganggooly
19-11-2007, 02:56 PM
im talking about my motor... b18c2:thumbsup:

im running teg vtir motor la..


ah huh... i gets ya now lol

z3lda
19-11-2007, 04:46 PM
interior stripped or full trim

todaek9
20-11-2007, 04:03 AM
before that, i know its a lil out of topic, is there a possibility a B16a NA runs a 11's? No nos...std chasis, just lighten...??

EG5
20-11-2007, 07:15 AM
before that, i know its a lil out of topic, is there a possibility a B16a NA runs a 11's? No nos...std chasis, just lighten...??

You kept on asking this questions millions of times LMAO.
This guy claim he got b16a allmotor crx doin 11s :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CzLQ3EGIEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ba_LUUzx4

martin
20-11-2007, 11:27 AM
14.879 bone stock vtir not even stripped interior.

ginganggooly
20-11-2007, 12:25 PM
interior stripped or full trim

missing the back seats

16CTEG
20-11-2007, 03:50 PM
anyone else out there that can pull better then 14.2?

thanks for the replies yo

i find out fridya night im on my way there! i last ran a 14.9 3 years ago with no mods except for a untuned vafc n a muffler that wouyld probably only make sound! now i have sussy, lsd, short ratio box, mugen headers, exhaust 2 1/4 inch. and intake in stock box and RE55s... we'll seee how i go, will keep you's posted! and i agreee great thread!!!!! hands down! anything lower than a 14.5 ill be happy! but just quietly confident 14.5 shouldnt be a hard task for all my mods!!

BE good if u boys can come down n girls for that matter!!!

EG5
20-11-2007, 09:53 PM
i find out fridya night im on my way there! i last ran a 14.9 3 years ago with no mods except for a untuned vafc n a muffler that wouyld probably only make sound! now i have sussy, lsd, short ratio box, mugen headers, exhaust 2 1/4 inch. and intake in stock box and RE55s... we'll seee how i go, will keep you's posted! and i agreee great thread!!!!! hands down! anything lower than a 14.5 ill be happy! but just quietly confident 14.5 shouldnt be a hard task for all my mods!!

BE good if u boys can come down n girls for that matter!!!

try to run some drag radial tyres if its possible
RE55s is for circuit racing tyres.

set the car up properly and anything will be possible to achieve

16CTEG
20-11-2007, 10:15 PM
try to run some drag radial tyres if its possible
RE55s is for circuit racing tyres.

set the car up properly and anything will be possible to achieve

well in your opinion what do u think my potential is???with my m0ds! i can say im a decent driver.

todaek9
20-11-2007, 10:57 PM
the B16a can do 11's...why not yours?

G-Stick
20-11-2007, 11:11 PM
wtf...

ginganggooly
21-11-2007, 08:01 AM
He's a losty. Even when he's being serious, he makes little or no sense...

Moving along- I don't think circuit semis are necessary. I was pulling consistant 2.10-2.16 60' times on street tyres (both goodyear eagles and yoko c-drives). It's more in the way you have the shocks dialled in, and how ham fisted you are with the clutch off the line.

Fatboyz39 and benson were getting 2.0's and 1.9's with semis i believe, although they did have an LSD thrown into the mix. All else being equal, there should be little difference; soft compound with stiff sidewall vs hard compound with soft sidewall.

todaek9
21-11-2007, 10:49 AM
Drag Radial is the way to go...
but u need lil bit more power to see the full potential of the drag radial..make quite abit of diff while launch...alot of factor does come to play when u wanna drag..every lil thing that u do to your car can either gain or lost time..

Ginganggooly...
u just don't know me thats all..thinking i'm a losty...don't even say a thing when u like to judge others...

<E240 Edit: We're all proud Honda owners..I think the above is enough...VTECC Yaay>

So what if i say much bout B16a...i'm curious, so, any fault in that? <E240 Edit:Rainbows and lollipops>


He's a losty. Even when he's being serious, he makes little or no sense...

Moving along- I don't think circuit semis are necessary. I was pulling consistant 2.10-2.16 60' times on street tyres (both goodyear eagles and yoko c-drives). It's more in the way you have the shocks dialled in, and how ham fisted you are with the clutch off the line.

Fatboyz39 and benson were getting 2.0's and 1.9's with semis i believe, although they did have an LSD thrown into the mix. All else being equal, there should be little difference; soft compound with stiff sidewall vs hard compound with soft sidewall.

e240
21-11-2007, 01:37 PM
Guys, just take it to PM or Lounge - Not interested in squabbles.

BTW, a little off topic on the same genre is quite acceptable. If you have nothing to contribute just ignore it, no need to be so Nazi about the topic.

martin
21-11-2007, 02:25 PM
mate ran 14.4 in a dc2r with mugen air intake and buddyclub coilovers

fatboyz39
21-11-2007, 06:25 PM
not an vti-r, our type R dc2r 13.6 @100MPH on advan 048.

todaek9
21-11-2007, 09:15 PM
std or moded?
if it's std, it's very quick...and i doubt i've seen any...



not an vti-r, our type R dc2r 13.6 @100MPH on advan 048.

.::F[L]Y::.
22-11-2007, 12:20 PM
<E240: Don't really care about that>

back on the topic of dc2 vtir- bone stock i seen them do 14.8 and thats about it.

16CTEG
22-11-2007, 12:37 PM
lets all stop talking n head down to the track! im going calder tomorrow night! hope to see some of you guys down there. stop talking urselves up and bagging each other n prove it on the strip!!

.::F[L]Y::.
22-11-2007, 12:46 PM
lets all stop talking n head down to the track! im going calder tomorrow night! hope to see some of you guys down there. stop talking urselves up and bagging each other n prove it on the strip!!

some of us already have proof of what we can do (just do a search). Which is why we get abit fired up when the likes of todaek9 with no proof starts posting his bs in these threads

fatboyz39
22-11-2007, 01:12 PM
std or moded?
if it's std, it's very quick...and i doubt i've seen any...

yes standard motor with bolt on. I.e headers intake and exhaust and a gooood tune with hondata s200.

BlitZ
22-11-2007, 01:29 PM
yes standard motor with bolt on. I.e headers intake and exhaust and a gooood tune with hondata s200.
+ hoon behind the wheel

bennjamin
22-11-2007, 05:15 PM
+ hoon behind the wheel

Makes the difference between any car :) Mods dont mean shit if u cant drive for crap lol.

Newcivic
22-11-2007, 06:10 PM
dc2r ran 14.03 with I/H/E - no tune - on some family tyres

16CTEG
22-11-2007, 10:28 PM
just been doing some practice launches on the factories at at night in preparation for calder tomorrow night and all i can say is they are much much much better than launching with the potenza RE001's!!! may not be as good as a drag radial but oh well. if you come down to calder dont forget to come and say hi!

.::F[L]Y::.
22-11-2007, 11:11 PM
just been doing some practice launches on the factories at at night in preparation for calder tomorrow night and all i can say is they are much much much better than launching with the potenza RE001's!!! may not be as good as a drag radial but oh well. if you come down to calder dont forget to come and say hi!

launching on the street is different to launching at the actual track.

different conditions. It just takes practise. make note of what you do on each launch and try to alternate the technique between each run/launch till you find the sweet spot for your car :thumbsup:

also shifting is an important aspect in nailing a good 1/4 time.

EG5
22-11-2007, 11:14 PM
agreed with what FLY said
street and drag strip way of launching the car is so different.

pornstar
24-11-2007, 12:02 PM
14.1 here bolt on i/h/e and vafc, tyre pressure at 18psi

_FeRiO_
24-11-2007, 09:37 PM
14.1 VTiR or Type R??

pornstar
26-11-2007, 10:40 AM
Its a vtir, hence thread title :)

_FeRiO_
26-11-2007, 10:59 AM
Just checkin. People posting all sorts of stuff in here.
Very quick time man :thumbsup:. Stripped interior and on what tires??

.::F[L]Y::.
26-11-2007, 11:48 AM
Its a vtir, hence thread title :)

thats pretty good for a vtir. What was the 60ft and MPH? is there a time slip for us to look at?:thumbsup:

pornstar
26-11-2007, 05:03 PM
The owner is on here so he will post it if he wants, from memory, 2.0flat 60foot, trapped something like 108mph.

tyres were Toyo Ra-1 and just the usual boot stuff like spare wheel etc

SLOWEGG
26-11-2007, 05:18 PM
108mph..

fatboyz39
26-11-2007, 05:41 PM
The owner is on here so he will post it if he wants, from memory, 2.0flat 60foot, trapped something like 108mph.

tyres were Toyo Ra-1 and just the usual boot stuff like spare wheel etc

108mph for a stock motor with bolt-ons is abit suspicous.

barefootbonzai
26-11-2007, 06:19 PM
you need to check your stats Andy. 108mph is way off for a stock VTiR... that's k20 and 12 sec pass territory.

pornstar
26-11-2007, 06:29 PM
yeah well i said from mem :P

addition: after talking to the owner, its a f-up from the track, that 108mph was what it actually showed on the day too.

The whacked thing is, from the same day, a 12.3 on a turbo integra did 112mph, go figure.

_FeRiO_
29-11-2007, 12:24 PM
16CTEG. Did you end up running your car down calder?

EG5
29-11-2007, 01:26 PM
The owner is on here so he will post it if he wants, from memory, 2.0flat 60foot, trapped something like 108mph.

tyres were Toyo Ra-1 and just the usual boot stuff like spare wheel etc

wow 108mph!!!!!!!!

pornstar
02-12-2007, 12:19 AM
apparently in melbourne there is a b16a civic that does 11's probably 140mph or something :)

EG5
02-12-2007, 12:47 PM
apparently in melbourne there is a b16a civic that does 11's probably 140mph or something :)

but no time slip right

pornstar
02-12-2007, 02:05 PM
lol its for sale in the sale section :)

bennjamin
02-12-2007, 08:38 PM
come on guys , this thread is about DC2's ....not EG's with b16as with dreamer drivers :)

barefootbonzai
02-12-2007, 10:07 PM
come on guys , this thread is about DC2's ....not EG's with b16as with dreamer drivers :)

no way man, this guy has pm'd me with threats. his for REAL! hahahahah

want's to race me for pink slips yo!

_FeRiO_
02-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Personally, i would love to see this happen :)

16CTEG
02-12-2007, 10:19 PM
my best 60 foot on fridayt ngiht was 2.166! my 1/4 was disappoointing, the timing was too retarded! had it adjusted the follwoing sarudya n it spun up when i slammed it from 1st to 2nd on semi slicks, maybe would of shaved off 2 tenths of a second

_FeRiO_
02-12-2007, 10:54 PM
so what was your best time of the night?

16CTEG
03-12-2007, 09:30 AM
14.822.... wasnt the greatest. but at least i beat a S15 on that run, i beat him by .33 of a second, if i can remember correctly. was happy didnt expect to beat him

_FeRiO_
03-12-2007, 10:50 AM
Good work man!!
The mugen headers help?
What other mods have you done to your car during that run, including tires and weight reduction?

IZY-10
04-12-2007, 09:57 AM
14.822.... wasnt the greatest. but at least i beat a S15 on that run, i beat him by .33 of a second, if i can remember correctly. was happy didnt expect to beat him

thats because most s15 drivers don't know how to drive their car correctly. They are not exactly an easy car to drive

16CTEG
04-12-2007, 09:32 PM
Good work man!!
The mugen headers help?
What other mods have you done to your car during that run, including tires and weight reduction?


headers, 2 1/4 inch press bent exhaust. standard cat, itr box n lsd, homemade CAI, n K&N, RE55's with abotu 18 PSI, and decent sussy, stripped out rear seats sound system etc. but liek i said wasnt running well, we changed the timing on the dizzy n it was running much much better!!! but i guess ill wait till i get more mods n head down n try n break into the 13's once i get cams n a stroker kit.. mmm i liek to think the headers helped but i dunno man! last time i went i got a 14.996 almost stock car (had vafc untuned, wasnt even stripped) but it was driven by my mate. this time he drove too n only got a 15.1,sooo it really doesnt make much sense. thats why i was hopnig to pull a mid to low 14...............

_FeRiO_
05-12-2007, 11:08 AM
Still, very good effort man! Would love to see it hit low 14's or better

16CTEG
05-12-2007, 10:52 PM
Ill get there oneday! im very undesided, a motor bike or my car running 13's or a holiday? all this before uni starts again! misses is gone lol soo i got more cash flow!

DC5TYPER
05-12-2007, 11:30 PM
headers, 2 1/4 inch press bent exhaust. standard cat, itr box n lsd, homemade CAI, n K&N, RE55's with abotu 18 PSI, and decent sussy, stripped out rear seats sound system etc. but liek i said wasnt running well, we changed the timing on the dizzy n it was running much much better!!! but i guess ill wait till i get more mods n head down n try n break into the 13's once i get cams n a stroker kit.. mmm i liek to think the headers helped but i dunno man! last time i went i got a 14.996 almost stock car (had vafc untuned, wasnt even stripped) but it was driven by my mate. this time he drove too n only got a 15.1,sooo it really doesnt make much sense. thats why i was hopnig to pull a mid to low 14...............

Dude, your car has a MILLION KM's on the dial (250,000 i think). Thats whats maybe keeping your times back.

Did you adjust your coil overs when you raced? Adjusting the shocks and ride height can help your times.

EG5
06-12-2007, 07:33 PM
headers, 2 1/4 inch press bent exhaust. standard cat, itr box n lsd, homemade CAI, n K&N, RE55's with abotu 18 PSI, and decent sussy, stripped out rear seats sound system etc. but liek i said wasnt running well, we changed the timing on the dizzy n it was running much much better!!! but i guess ill wait till i get more mods n head down n try n break into the 13's once i get cams n a stroker kit.. mmm i liek to think the headers helped but i dunno man! last time i went i got a 14.996 almost stock car (had vafc untuned, wasnt even stripped) but it was driven by my mate. this time he drove too n only got a 15.1,sooo it really doesnt make much sense. thats why i was hopnig to pull a mid to low 14...............

better off to run with re001
re55 is for circuit tyres

16CTEG
06-12-2007, 10:24 PM
better off to run with re001
re55 is for circuit tyres

you could be right when i ran 3 years ago with shitty street tires n car was almost stock i pulled a 14.996.....

16CTEG
06-12-2007, 10:25 PM
Dude, your car has a MILLION KM's on the dial (250,000 i think). Thats whats maybe keeping your times back.

Did you adjust your coil overs when you raced? Adjusting the shocks and ride height can help your times.

YES CEVAPI VELIBOR your post just killed this thread!!!

G-Stick
16-12-2007, 07:55 PM
just went today got a 14.6 with a 2.3 60ft :(

_FeRiO_
16-12-2007, 09:31 PM
Nice time man!
Lower 60ft is definately achievable
What mods you done for that run?

G-Stick
16-12-2007, 11:07 PM
yea it was my first time.
just got i/h/e

z3lda
17-12-2007, 01:23 PM
any weight reduction?

G-Stick
17-12-2007, 05:17 PM
yea just the spare wheel/jack and the parcel. didnt take the rear seats and amp becoz i cbs disconnecting the wires.

VTI-RRR
17-12-2007, 07:08 PM
is ur car tuned koz thas a realy good time and what tyres???? if it is tuned by who and what u got vafc or other???

G-Stick
17-12-2007, 10:29 PM
running toyo T1R's. yea its got a vafc. tune by akmotorworks, did the 14.6 with a crappy launch was hopping 1st gear :( into 2nd.

_FeRiO_
17-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Really good effort man for minimal mods and weight reduction! Easy low 14's with good launch
What mph did you get out of curiosity?

G-Stick
18-12-2007, 07:44 AM
my mph was 94.66, but then again that day the mph was reading funny because wen i was on the left lane it was in the 90s but wen i was in the right lane it was reading 110+.

yea i really need to learn to launch it properly, kept on hopping :(

_FeRiO_
18-12-2007, 08:01 AM
Where did you run at?
I remember last time at Heathcote, the right lane was producing rediculously high mph runs.

G-Stick
18-12-2007, 08:12 AM
yea heathcote, was full of tanked holdens/fords and a few bikes

94dc2tegz
01-01-2008, 12:48 PM
hey G-Stick

whats ur thoughts on ur vafc? helped much?
i got one but i've been reading around and on a couple of other forums and i find no love for them. I'm in doubt now. Anyways to makes things worse i kinda know that there is basically not much difference b/w vafc and the vafc2 in capabilities besides a finer tune for the vafc. but which one are u running?

G-Stick
01-01-2008, 03:12 PM
ive got a vafc2, i heard they are pretty much the same. got mine for dirty cheap. yer i can feel the difference wen it got tuned by akmotorworks. got a 5 kw atw gain.

94dc2tegz
01-01-2008, 04:02 PM
yea besides being better looking i hope i don't lose out on power which is the important thing (vafc)

anyways, after reading this thread for a while u guys have inspired me to attempt my own track time maybe too although i have no idea what so ever lol
but i'd like to get my car there too one day. guna get the basic i/h/e + vafc tuned by akmotorworks too once he comes back from holiday. can't wait! and perhaps looking at cams in the future.

so i hope u guys can help me out along the way with all ya experience and perhaps one day i can say i drive a 14.xxx vtir too =D

AKmotorworks
30-01-2008, 01:55 PM
Your going to have to go head to head with him soon Ivan ;)

Zilli
30-01-2008, 02:19 PM
not an vti-r, our type R dc2r 13.6 @100MPH on advan 048.

whats that a B18c or a B20 vtec?

.::F[L]Y::.
30-01-2008, 02:45 PM
^ b18cr

Zilli
30-01-2008, 03:03 PM
wow, great time... it's probably been mentioned, perhaps there is a link somewhere where i can see the mods?

fatboyz39
30-01-2008, 03:22 PM
wow, great time... it's probably been mentioned, perhaps there is a link somewhere where i can see the mods?

Simple and has work great on both 2x b18c7, b20/vtec

Intake, headers, exhaust + ECU and GOOD tune.

Zilli
30-01-2008, 05:10 PM
wow fellas, that sort of work has been done on a number of R's out there and you dont hear about such great times, you must be kick ass drivers

bennjamin
31-01-2008, 08:08 PM
Simple and has work great on both 2x b18c7, b20/vtec

Intake, headers, exhaust + ECU and GOOD tune.

Dont forget tyres lol. Semi slick or slicks make a big difference in times !

fatboyz39
31-01-2008, 08:10 PM
All done in Adavn 048R...not much of a drag tyre. Just used it cause it was bald.

.::F[L]Y::.
31-01-2008, 09:17 PM
Dont forget tyres lol. Semi slick or slicks make a big difference in times !

i dont see how they can, considering a semi slick tyre is designed for track/circuit use so it would take much more than a burn out to get them up to heat. Well thats what i thought anyways on those runs i did. Unless we are talking about those BF Goodrich drag semis which are real soft and can get warmed up easily.

bennjamin
31-01-2008, 09:28 PM
compared to any normal street tyre...actual "circuit" semi slicks are apparently worse for straight line dragging. Anyway tyres do make a big effort in putting the power down and reducing those 60ft and ET.

gheybo
17-03-2008, 08:20 PM
Dont forget tyres lol. Semi slick or slicks make a big difference in times !

Just a noob question, why does semi slicks make a big difference? more grip?

bennjamin
20-03-2008, 08:06 AM
Just a noob question, why does semi slicks make a big difference? more grip?

alot softer compound and more tread on the ground = alot more grip than "road tyres" could ever have.
If you hear anyone saying they did X time , make sure you ask if on road tyres or on semi slicks or slicks because its quite a difference :)

gheybo
20-03-2008, 09:39 AM
What should a stock dc2r run with street tyres? 14.8?

and what should a stock dc2r run with semi slicks?

Just want to compare the differences

ginganggooly
20-03-2008, 11:58 AM
alot softer compound and more tread on the ground = alot more grip than "road tyres" could ever have.
If you hear anyone saying they did X time , make sure you ask if on road tyres or on semi slicks or slicks because its quite a difference :)

Super stiff sidewalls though...

I remember running on fresh semis and getting the same 60' time as i did on my fresh streeties.

fatboyz39
21-03-2008, 07:17 AM
Super stiff sidewalls though...

I remember running on fresh semis and getting the same 60' time as i did on my fresh streeties.

correct.

EG5
21-03-2008, 12:21 PM
What should a stock dc2r run with street tyres? 14.8?

and what should a stock dc2r run with semi slicks?

Just want to compare the differences

Run DOT Drag Radial if you wanna race it with semi slicks , try not to use circuit semi slicks

fatboyz39
21-03-2008, 01:19 PM
...double post...