All About Headlights + Where to Buy Cheap!!!

[dsp26]

Probably both a repost but thought i'd share again anyway:

A really good guide on lights + why blue lights suck donkey balls:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html

A really good source to purchase from that provides free international shipping:
http://www.powerbulbs.com/index.asp

Current top products are:
Philips Xtreme + 80%
Osram Night Breaker +90% +10% Whiter

Search Keywords: Headlights, Light bulbs, H1, H2, H3, H4, H5, H6, H7, H8, H9, H10, H11, HB3, HB4, Light intensity, Light range, Light colour

[dsp26]

Comparison of Philips vs Osram taken from www.hond-atech.com
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2139371&page=1

All pics:
Left = Osram Night Breaker
Right = Philips Xtreme

Bulb
http://i10.tinypic.com/4yezjhi.jpg

Low Beam
http://i3.tinypic.com/4vdi61w.jpg

High Beam
http://i7.tinypic.com/53q0lqe.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4z00xky.jpg

[Samo]

i thought i was abt christmas lights for the house lol

the one on the left is brighter but too glary = less vision?

[Samo]

oh ronald check out the 75cm 8.5 pound snapper
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[dsp26]

i thought i was abt christmas lights for the house lol

the one on the left is brighter but too glary = less vision?
lol nah bro, would've been the wrong section :p

as per your comment, yes it is, but i researched the net and their overall low beam light pattern is generally the same according to the lighting graphs, but because the Osrams are whiter it sacrifices a bit of very up close to mid range low beam lighting.

If i had a decent camera i can prove that Daniel fellows statements too... i currently have a 6000K + blue filtered light in my left headlight and a standard yellow bulb in the left.... it is clearly evident especially on wet roads how crap blue filtered white halogens are. HID are obviously an exception as they are true pure white unfiltered.

I personally ordered the Xtremes for around AU$50 shipped from that site.... didn't wanna risk the blue-ish Osram tinge as I already have an appointment for noise/emissions test this friday :(



oh ronald check out the 75cm 8.5 pound snapper
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yeah i was gonna ask coz i saw you post in another thread and noticed your avatar (your flathead was farking huge too!!).... and don't you dare tell me you caught that in NSW!!! i was up in QLD all of last week and man you were right, the fish are abundant there... like 100:1 compared to NSW. Although crab trapping at Newcastle/Stockton was fun and cheap too!!! you gotta tell me bout your fishing adventures sometime....

[Samo]

the flattie was my 1st flathead abt 2 years ago in Logon river on south of brisbane.. it was 77cm .. but did wieigh it cos i didtnt have one then lol
and i was using a $50 pens reel combo from k-mart .. but i was was so yummy .. had it on the bbq dat night .. also i caught my biggest whiting dat day ... just under 40cm ,..,, was thick as my forearm

the snapper we caught out in mud island a few km's outside of brisbane river
was so excited dat day !! :)

back to topic ... i have stock yellow crappy globes cos they work fine for me
and the blue holegons in my bro's dc2r arent much better .. just looks abit better than dull yellow :P

heres a pic for u
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2054/snapperineskipr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2054/snapperineskipr7.ae2afb8bc3.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=528&i=snapperineskipr7.jpg)

[dsp26]

^^^ZOMG!!! thought it was a pissy esky till i saw your feet... thats huge... thats like deep sea size mulloway!!! when we goin fishin?? i need to learn from a pro... and i wanna learn how you catch your live bait!!

oh and um.. to keep things on topic lol... try the powerbulbs site.. you'll be surprised how cheap all their bulbs are compared to buying here...... for the $50 i paid i even got the free philips parkers...

[Samo]

havent fished for almost a whole year ... need to get back into it ..
the gears getting rusty lol

got any spots we can got??

[Ry_]

Thanks for the comparison! :D

ps. Nice snapper!

[dsp26]

I've tried both now and these are my conclusions (however I have aftermarket headlight housing, it also affects light pattern):

Philips X-Treme
- Good Colour, very close to stock, still A TAD yellowish but noticably whiter
- Exceptional Throw and Flood especially High Beam. This is a must have for country road drivers or wet+night blind people

OSRAM Nightbreakers
- These are unbelievably white with no blue tinge at the bulb when on.
- Better than any other so called HID Halogen white light available here in Aus, these don't actually diminish the shortrange light quality (anywhere near as much as the blue tinted ones)
- These babies excel the most at highbeam, throws so far and sooo white!!
- Definitely for those who like the bright white light look, except these are actually functional.


My Overall choice
I am admittedly bordering on night blind when the roads are wet therefore cannot use white lights and prefer the yellower tinge. The Philips gave me the best all-round performance for what I needed, it has better short-range (low beam) lighting than the OSRAMS, however this may be a result of my night-blindness.

These are cheap both costing around AU$50 delivered from www.powerbulbs.com (http://www.powerbulbs.com) and arrived well packaged and undamaged within 5 Aussie working days. Even the other Philips range available from Autobarn/Supercheap for AU$100+ can be had here for around AU$40 delivered + you get the Philips white parkers FOR FREE with any purchase anyway!!!

[Ry_]

Thanks so much your info's heaps useful- rep +1!

I'm going to put them in angel eye housings, so probably won't need the parker bulbs. Was wondering what bulbs EK1 foggies are.. perhaps they'd be worth changing too. Will definitely come in handy cos I do a fair bit of country roads.. the stock bulbs are pretty dim. I think I'm most likely going to get the Phillips offering from powerbulbs.. thanks for the site link too! You're a legend. :)

[neo_phase]

Here it is as requested by dsp26, to compare Phillips BlueVision and Xtreme Power:

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv308/neo_phase/P1010889.jpg

Phillips BlueVision on the left and Phillips Xtreme Power on the right. You can see that Xtreme Power is definitely heaps brighter, but yellow compared to the BlueVision.

I'm thinking of getting a pair of Osrams and when I do I'll compare that with the BlueVision as well and repost.

[dsp26]

just thought i'd let you guys know, 10&#37; discount with the below voucher code on checkout:

ZXRCX111

[mocchi]

just thought i'd let you guys know, 10&#37; discount with the below voucher code on checkout:

ZXRCX111

you saved me abt $5. :p
damn youre a god bless.

total of 20.03GBP = 39.30AUD
(Free delivery worldwide + A free pair of Philips Blue Vision w5w)

thanks dsp26.

[sexy_shazam]

Hi

Im in the market for new lights to replace my civics current oem ones.

My research has led me to choose between.

Philipis X treme power

Osram Breaker

Philips Blue vision.

Which do you think is the better of the 3? Im also concerned about how they perform in the rain as i know this is an issue with other Halogen lights.

thanks.

[curtis265]

Top effort for searching!

I'm not experienced with the bulbs like dsp26, but what i can say is that if you're concerned about rain performance, it's commonly believed that the bluer spectrum tends to reflect back in rain, so essentailly if you wanted perfect night vision, you'd use pure yellow (much like street lighting)

[mocchi]

used xtreme power. def. alot brighter than what i used to have.
i think it might be oem bulb.

[NightKids]

Out of all those lights you mentioned, the Philips XTreme are the best...

I found that the ones that really make a difference are the Osram Rallye 65W. You can buy them from the candlepower store.

If you want something really bright you have the option to upgrade your wiring harness and put some Osram 100W bulbs in and they are just crazy!

[sexy_shazam]

Thank you everyone for the advice I really appreciate it.

My civic is a 96 cxi and I do occasional night driving just basic things so I'm not looking for the top range ones just best bang for buck.

I was hoping to buy either the osram night breaker plus or x treme vision ATM since they seem better value but another issue I can't find out is life span. The price difference is almost double so I'm lost as to which to pick.

Thanks.

[mocchi]

Thank you everyone for the advice I really appreciate it.

My civic is a 96 cxi and I do occasional night driving just basic things so I'm not looking for the top range ones just best bang for buck.

I was hoping to buy either the osram night breaker plus or x treme vision ATM since they seem better value but another issue I can't find out is life span. The price difference is almost double so I'm lost as to which to pick.

Thanks.

used xtreme for abt 2 yrs now? i think it was pretty good.
plus you get 2 extra small bulbs

[sexy_shazam]

used xtreme for abt 2 yrs now? i think it was pretty good.
plus you get 2 extra small bulbs

How long did the globes last?

btw im also considering getting angel lights would they fit with these globes?

[NightKids]

XTremes last longer than the NightBreakers.

Don't bother with angel lights, they are crap...

Powerbulbs uk give free shipping

[sexy_shazam]

XTremes last longer than the NightBreakers.

Don't bother with angel lights, they are crap...

Powerbulbs uk give free shipping

OK looks like im going to buy a set of philips xtremes for my normal driving lights

and philips blue vision 5w for my parkers.

What do you mean angel lights are crap ? do they not improve lighting? i do like the look of them though.

Also Just to clarify the civics low beam lights are H4 correct?

[IANP]

Yes EK civics use H4 for low/high beam.
Just be careful of which wattage you select.
A 55w globe at 12v will draw 4.58A.
A 65w globe at 12v will draw 5.41A
A 100w globe at 12v will draw 8.33A
Where most wiring in a car is not rated above 7.5 amp for continuous operation.
If you exceed this the wiring will literally melt and cause some very serious issues.
Also remember the higher wattage the more light but also the more heat generated.....which leads to more melted wiring, plugs and plastic headlights.....

[sexy_shazam]

Yes EK civics use H4 for low/high beam.
Just be careful of which wattage you select.
A 55w globe at 12v will draw 4.58A.
A 65w globe at 12v will draw 5.41A
A 100w globe at 12v will draw 8.33A
Where most wiring in a car is not rated above 7.5 amp for continuous operation.
If you exceed this the wiring will literally melt and cause some very serious issues.
Also remember the higher wattage the more light but also the more heat generated.....which leads to more melted wiring, plugs and plastic headlights.....

I read my car manual and it says 55w 60w for Low beam so im going to get the bulbs in 55wwhich should be alright yes?

As for the parkers ( I have no clue what the point of these lights are) it didnt say but i assume there rated at 5W.

I dont trust myself installing these lights so now i have to find someone to do it.

[mocchi]

i got my parkers for free when i bought from powerbulbs.

[curtis265]

parkers are just the term given to the bulbs that light up when u turn the knob once. Low beams switch on afteward

[dsp26]

I researched the purpose of parkers a while ago.

Its low drain, apparently its good practice to leave it on for when you park your car for short periods, primarily for night time visibility where hazard lights arent entirely appropriate

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[mocchi]

just bought another set of bulbs - Philips X-treme Vision H4. prices gone up though.
i missed out on 20% voucher: http://twitter.com/#!/powerbulbs/
10% voucher code is RLKHQ1883

[nguyenimproved]

Hi, just got an EK1 and the headlights suck. Are these (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-h4-car-headlight-bulbs) the ones that you guys are recommending in this thread? And I can just chuck them in replacing the ones currently in there without worrying about anything else?

Or should I go for the Osrams?



Cheers