hi im new to this shi****

[iwantvtec]

welll i recently got my lil gli, n was considering a engine swap for either a h22a n b18c, but after going to the wreckers i really realised how much it was gon cost meee. (whaaaaaaaaaa b18c ITR engine fkn 7k) and i looked at my other options:

so what u guys think bout reco'n my d15a7 engine (piston rebuild, cams etc) n getting a custom manifold made up n turboing it? is that a better/cheaper option?

and my other mate told me, just buy a b18a n jus whack a turbo on it with out reco'n it? do u think dats possible or do u still gotta reco it? coz i've got quotes for a b18a engine for round 6-8 bux =D (i know im pov)

[Dy_]

whats a b18a? you prob mean the b16?

[Sydsyd]

what year is ur car? if i remember right, B18A is from the DA integra, which is more likely to be older than ur car...law states that u can't put an older engine into a newer chassis...

imo u can decide on which way to go depending on ur budget...not too sure how much u have to spend to reco and turbo ur car, but i'd estimate around 5-6k for that...maybe more...

if u want, u can get B16A from EG6/EK4/Del Sol or B18C from DC2 VTi-R (not the type R)...they'd cost around 3.5-5k installed (once again, rough estimates)...

my 2c;)

[[ricer]]

I think just sell ur honda and buy a nissan lol

but yeah on your car a b16a swap should probably cost u abt 4k and will be reliable for all day everyday

[Kiz_EG6]

Reality check... mods cost money and a shitload of it!!

Honestly man, you have to set urself a goal and realistically save and save and stick to it... also whatever you think it will cost, add an extra 20% for all the bullshit that goes wrong on the way!

Engine rebuild will cost you more than it's worth on ur motor and depending on the age, it will take a turbo, but it could greatly shorten the lifespan of ur engine!

B16A is the age old swap, tried and tested, it will give you a quck enough car for a start and will be very reliable!!
As others have stated, 5k is probably a realistic amount of money by the time you include parts and labor, but again, budget a little more than that.
Also, making ur car more powerful, you will need to invest a few $K into a break upgrade and focus a little on ur suspension and tyres, so you don't fall off the 1st corner, i would be looking at this before you try to put more power down anyway!!

[EKVTIR-T]

For 5k budget try and get a B18b and boost it.
The motors are cheap,your cars already efi and there is a manifold for sale here for $250,

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78970

[Aza]

doing a b18b swap and boosting it for under 5k? ha i would love for u to try and do that.

[EKVTIR-T]

doing a b18b swap and boosting it for under 5k? ha i would love for u to try and do that.
Lol it might be hard for clueless people but if your in the scene or know the right people its not that unrealistic.:)

[simonnowis]

if your goner turbo might as well just sell up and buy a turbo car..
isnt the whole point of honda to vtec. lol

[iwantvtec]

b16a is the vtir engine yer? vtec? well if dat is i got quoted for jus the engine 1.8

[simonnowis]

b16a2 i think is from EK4(vti-r), eg6 have a b16a to not 100% sure if its the same b16a.
i think u might of gotten quoted for the non-vtec integra engine b18b i think its called.
ud be better off with a b16a which is dohc vtec.

[iwantvtec]

how much would a b16a be u rkn?

[EKVTIR-T]

how much would a b16a be u rkn?

This guys in sydney but gives you some idea http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78380 (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78380)

[VT1-R]

whats a b18a? you prob mean the b16?

LOL at this reply!!HAHA!!

Jus sell ur car and try getting a Integra VTI-R or Type R depending on how much u have. Every1 can say ah.."No worries, whack on turbo etc", reliability will be an issue and with turbo u can have other probs, tuning cost etc.. If we can plan how much we all gonna spend on a car that will be the day. haha..

IMO, sell this car and get a Integra VTI-R and bang in some I/H/E and it will give decent power that can give most cars a run!!.

If u have to work with ur present car, dun get the B18a.. its like WTF? i tink its bout 96kw, lil bit more torque. But the VTI EG(top of range of ur series) does 96kw at 1600cc as well.. By doing an engine conversion and turboing it altogether, cost will explode and with B18a is not smart. If u wanna do engine conversion, unless u do urself, its gonna cost 800-1000+ depending who u know.

Summary of cost:

1.) B18A engine(gd condition)= $1000 thereabouts
2.) TURBO kit(reasonable quality with all parts)=$2500-$3000
3.) Install engine= $1000(saying u cant do it urself)
4.) Install turbo kit + tuning + ECU =$2000
5.) I/H/E =$1500 (Assuming no existing mods)

Total:$8000-$8500

That $8000+ is not including getting some nice lightweight rims, tyres, suspension stuff. Easily burst through $10k mark. Also, with turbo, honda factory reliability is gone.

Therefore, save this $8k++ that u gonna waste, and sell ur car for $5k++
Get the $14k and get a decent VTI-R teggy for $11k and use the $3k get gd mods OR get the JDM SI-R B18C(178hp) over and convert into ur EG

[VT1-R]

Reality check... mods cost money and a shitload of it!!

Honestly man, you have to set urself a goal and realistically save and save and stick to it... also whatever you think it will cost, add an extra 20% for all the bullshit that goes wrong on the way!

Engine rebuild will cost you more than it's worth on ur motor and depending on the age, it will take a turbo, but it could greatly shorten the lifespan of ur engine!

B16A is the age old swap, tried and tested, it will give you a quck enough car for a start and will be very reliable!!
As others have stated, 5k is probably a realistic amount of money by the time you include parts and labor, but again, budget a little more than that.
Also, making ur car more powerful, you will need to invest a few $K into a break upgrade and focus a little on ur suspension and tyres, so you don't fall off the 1st corner, i would be looking at this before you try to put more power down anyway!!

See.. this guy knows what he is toking!! haha. its true. We have all done this bullshit so we noe wats involved. Needless to mention, sleepless nights when ur car is ***ed up in the garage with problems like overheating. haha.

[iwantvtec]

lol i just got my carrrr... like liturally 1 week ago. ********( oh yer i've considered a b16a, or maybe a b18c. depends how much im rocking nxt year right now i've got bout just under 1k saved so for a 18 y/o who just blows every thing, i guess dats kindda good. (lol im proud of my self for saving 800 bux) well thnkx for the advise nikkahs

[jdm_kid]

ok ...

[VT1-R]

i am 18 too. I saved $8k plus borrowed $3k when i was 17 to buy my EK4.

Since u jus bought ur car, jus put in b18c la. get jdm SI-R B18C, cheaper and more value than B16a which struggles for torque. I personally think that turbo is not a gd idea for u as cost usually goes sky-rocketing and as u have said u still young etc, studying or jus started working no much extra $$ so better save for a straight up engine conversion, reliability is still 100%..

[NAY]

Summary of cost:

1.) B18A engine(gd condition)= $1000 thereabouts
2.) TURBO kit(reasonable quality with all parts)=$2500-$3000
3.) Install engine= $1000(saying u cant do it urself)
4.) Install turbo kit + tuning + ECU =$2000
5.) I/H/E =$1500 (Assuming no existing mods)



This bit doesn't make sense, what good is intake and headers when you are fitting a turbo anyway....
That is all going to be replaced by the turbo manifold and associated inlet piping correct?

[tekung89]

hey man , to all goals for ur car, there is always a budget. lets say u have 3grand to play around with.

cheap options
- b18b motor, which is around 1000-1500? then 500 to install ~ total= $1.5-2k. if ya then wanna go faster, get the basic intake, headers, exhaust and ur set. all up i reckon 3grand if u have good connections with the parts u buy

- buy a newer sohc engine, doesnt have to be vtec. eg. D16y4 which u can pick up for dead cheap, maybe around the 500 dollar mark, could be less or could be abit more. 500 to install or maybe cheaper seeing that sohc doenst have to change mounts, gear box or wateva that is invovled. which totals up around 1k, if ur going NA then dont worry about an OBD conversion. jus do the basic bolt ons again and also maybe a mini me vtec conversion later down the track, probably a D16Y8 head =). all up i would say 2 grand maybe abit more. be realistic, if ur a brand whore obviously the I/H/E will vary in cost. but simple CAI maybe a K&n filter, 2 1/4'' exhaust and no brand headers will also get you somewhere.

[iwantvtec]

i alrdy got a full exhaust, K&N filter and a strut bar. yer i realised that turbo causes alot of trouble, n im still young 2 VT1-R yer ill take ur advise, ill prob go in the search for a b18c, and turbo for a P plater is illegal, yer i think ill stick 2 NA... well thnkx for help yo

[VT1-R]

This bit doesn't make sense, what good is intake and headers when you are fitting a turbo anyway....
That is all going to be replaced by the turbo manifold and associated inlet piping correct?

haha. Yeah.4got bout tat. take off the Header part. A Hi-flow cat and catback exhaust and a good intake is still gonna cost about low $1k. If turbo kit comes with pod filter u can use it if u wan but i reckon get a better one like K&N, AEM etc.

[NAY]

Turbo cars dont seem to care about intakes quite as much as their N/A breatheren so you can kinda cheap out there a bit.

You right though, a locally made 2.5 or 3" mandrel bent exhaust with cat will get towards 700-1000, let alone something 'off the shelf'.

[VT1-R]

Turbo cars dont seem to care about intakes quite as much as their N/A breatheren so you can kinda cheap out there a bit.

You right though, a locally made 2.5 or 3" mandrel bent exhaust with cat will get towards 700-1000, let alone something 'off the shelf'.

Yeah intakes are not as important for turbo. But its just for bling if u wan. For my car being N/A my intake is a shitass one. I dun care. haha. Intake is just intake. Even the best intake will probably give mi a few hp gain over my exisiting one. Not worth it la.

Just get a good exhaust. Also, if u get it off the shelf, its not that bad. Get budget ones like Xforce... Catback for $600+ Cat for $180... Pretty gd price...Usually i heard that custom made is more expensive as u noe its done to fit this particular car, thus the higher price.

Anyway, just get that B18C, or minimum b16a... Dun go B18A/B, waste the $$$ of a conversion and dun get much out of it.

[isami]

i wanvtec.. did u go glenny before?

[iwantvtec]

Yer..... i break dance every friday at wendon

[Kiki]

Haha found you

Its alex

see you at the cruise tomorrow

defiantly go a b18c, or b16a both good reliable engine (bullet proof if you look after them) stay N/A for sure!!

[rawr]

b18a bottom b16 head...

LS vtec ftw


(not to expensive either ;)

[chunky]

sup
sound alo0t like iamvtec
:P

[Kiki]

sup
sound alo0t like iamvtec
:P

Haha this guy far from iamvtec

Soo lets try not a and associate him with him

iwantvtec:thumbsup:

iamvtec:thumbdwn: