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dc2sparks
29-12-2007, 12:07 AM
hi guys jsut wondering if 12k hid's would burn my lens for an ek4?
please help me cheers :)
xntrik
29-12-2007, 12:14 AM
12,000ks.
isnt that a bit too bright.
wait not a bit.
WAY TOO BRIGHT?!
xntrik
29-12-2007, 12:16 AM
That'll give off a purple tinge,
and im guessing you need a really good projector headlight to cover that range.
dc2sparks
29-12-2007, 12:21 AM
oh ok thanks, damm was looking forward to get them lol
xntrik
29-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Order from manufactorer?
Ask em for it in action.
im sure it flares out a shitload.
Mtec ones are purple tinge.
Are you running projector headlights? Or standard?
dc2sparks
29-12-2007, 12:28 AM
standards
xntrik
29-12-2007, 12:33 AM
HB4? or H4?
dc2sparks
29-12-2007, 12:34 AM
H4, but thanks anyway found out what i was after Lol
Color Temperature: 12000K
12000K has an approximately 2100lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. This color temperature puts out a deep bluish violet light and is deeper colored than the 10000K. It is for customer who is looking for the most extreme and most exotic looking light output. Please note: most customers have a common misconception that the higher the K (Kelvin temperature) the brighter it gets, but in fact, it is the opposite. The K rating is inversely proportional to the light output, therefore the lower the K the brighter the light output. Also, Xenon runs cooler and than your traditional halogen, therefore it will not melt your housing.
xntrik
29-12-2007, 12:36 AM
I should've just read my HID box.
But yeah, I hope it doesnt flare out for ya.
Most EK with HID's flare out like hell like the DC5's
dc2sparks
29-12-2007, 12:38 AM
oh ok lol
thanks for the help man :)
anything above 6000k and you won't be able to see anything.. especially when it is raining. If you want best visibility 4500k, if you want visibility/looks 6000k is as far as you should go.
ekdez
29-12-2007, 01:55 AM
8000k is the legal limit.. or as i have been told.. do these give off decent visibility in the rain?? ive been considering getting some H4 hi/lo 8000k HID kit.. or is the 6000k option a better one??
jeffske
29-12-2007, 07:49 AM
8000k is the legal limit.. or as i have been told.. do these give off decent visibility in the rain?? ive been considering getting some H4 hi/lo 8000k HID kit.. or is the 6000k option a better one??
HID's are all defect if they aren't standard from the factory
ekdez
29-12-2007, 08:03 AM
derrr.... ;)
but my question was which is better for driveability.. does the 8000k still drive well in the rain? or just stick with the 6000k ones?
i never thought that far into the HID's, with eh different weather conditions
Boost
29-12-2007, 08:16 AM
Anything above 6000k is too much.
dudeling7
29-12-2007, 10:50 AM
12000k will be pretty muhc like purple violet colour and you will see jack shit haha not to mention getting defected everywhere you go with the lights on.
6000k prob best compromise of looks and light output
i got 8000k and i think its a big upgrade over halogen and the colour is pretty blue, no probs from cops at all yet *knock on wood*
ekdez
29-12-2007, 02:04 PM
i got 8000k and i think its a big upgrade over halogen and the colour is pretty blue, no probs from cops at all yet *knock on wood*
where did u get yours from??
jerry quoted me $350 for h4 hi/lo
haven't really looked n e where else besides internet..
andiiso
29-12-2007, 02:16 PM
i got 8000k in mine but cos of aftermarket headlights it flares out more then it should on normal standard headlights and im still fine with them, can drive in mountains etc at night with no probs on low beam and also remember to readjust your headlights when you put them in cos mine were way too high when i first put them in .. but yea i gotta readjust again cos now its a bit too low lolz
xntrik
29-12-2007, 02:34 PM
8000k is decent visibility during the rain, (depends on how good ur projectors are)
otherwise im guessing its horrible.
Limbo
29-12-2007, 03:08 PM
cool i'm going to install me 8k ones also soon
dudeling7
01-01-2008, 05:45 PM
where did u get yours from??
jerry quoted me $350 for h4 hi/lo
haven't really looked n e where else besides internet..
i got mine off ebay man for a pretty god price like $200 its only low beam though. had them in the car about 6mths now and no problems since i installed them. hardest thing is deciding where you want to place your ballasts.
lol 350 from jerry, are they project mu ones? thats a decent price for hi/low setup, jsut gotta watch out and re adjust your headlights because they use a reflector rather than a projector so the light scatters much more.
jamchen
02-01-2008, 12:28 PM
DC2R comes with projectors which are design to accompany halogen bulbs... by doing a HID conversion, yes it will give you a bettter output range compare to halogen bulbs but there will be no comparison when you do a proper HID retrofit using D2S bulbs...
if you only want the looks.. go for 12,000k which is pure purple.. as you someone already suggested that you are putting yourself in higher chances to be defected by the police.
OEM HID is rated around 4,350K... and i'd say 4,500K ~ 5000K will give you the best output with white lights...
Just my 2Cs..
tekung89
02-01-2008, 12:41 PM
dunno if this helps but im running 8000k on my eg headlights and they work fine =) i noticed a big difference when driving at night with the HIDs compared to the normal halogen bulbs. as for the rain i havnt had any trouble seeing the road while driving, a great mod. + i think u can still get booked for them depending on the cop.
Limbo
03-01-2008, 04:07 PM
tekung89 - you look as bored as me sifting thru. LOL (and i'm at work!)
Wonder if you can engineer HIDs
Kazaf
03-01-2008, 05:17 PM
12,000ks.
isnt that a bit too bright.
wait not a bit.
WAY TOO BRIGHT?!
Because of the colour that the H.I.D emits does not necessarily mean it is 'brighter'.
4300K will be much clearer and in some cases 'brighter' than a 8000k let alone a 12000k. The visibility is much clearer, especially in the rain, hence IS 'brighter'.
I wouldn't be using 12000K to determine the brightness of the light, rather it should be used to determine the colour of the light.
You would think that a 6000K is very bright in some cases, that is because the headlight have reflectors, which is designed to reflect the light form a normal bulb not an aftermarket HID kit.
andiiso
03-01-2008, 10:54 PM
Because of the colour that the H.I.D emits does not necessarily mean it is 'brighter'.
4300K will be much clearer and in some cases 'brighter' than a 8000k let alone a 12000k. The visibility is much clearer, especially in the rain, hence IS 'brighter'.
I wouldn't be using 12000K to determine the brightness of the light, rather it should be used to determine the colour of the light.
You would think that a 6000K is very bright in some cases, that is because the headlight have reflectors, which is designed to reflect the light form a normal bulb not an aftermarket HID kit.
you could say they are bright, because they are extremely bright and blinding to the opposte cars (12000K), but the LIGHT OUTPUT is lower then the lower kelvins for example a 6000K. You are also right not saying ur wrong i think we just playing with the words n definitions, but yea u could say it is bright since it blinds the hell outta opposite cars when higher kelvin.
Limbo
04-01-2008, 08:51 AM
That's right the k rating is the frequency of the colour of the light not the actual output of light. Most HIDs are 35w with some 55w, so they should be putting out the same amount of light across the range but, some colours do appear more bright also
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