K&N Typhoon Intake for FD1

[JaCe]

For those who didn't know (not many i suspect) I was in Singapore recently and bought myself back a K&N Typhoon Intake for the FD1. I'm getting it installed this Saturday but until then thought I would share with the OH community the instruction manual which came with it; along with all the other pamphlets.

One file is the scanned A3 instructions with photos (double sided); the other file is the complete PDF (with the A3 pages shrunk to A4) with all the other bits of paper it came with.

Download A3 Typhoon install Civic 69-1013.pdf (http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~5yumtm)

Download K&N Typhoon Intake 69-1013 2006 Civic L4-1.8L.pdf (http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~86rdvu)

Cheers!

[Shimian]

wouldnt that still be sucking hot air?

[JaCe]

Correct- it's NOT a cold air intake. I figured the risks involved with using a CAI weren't worth it; that... and this was the only one which the shop in Singapore recommended to me for the FD1 automatic. They also had Simota and AEM gear but it was for either FD1 manual or FD2.

[Ivan_Y]

how much for the typhoon in sg?

[JaCe]

how much for the typhoon in sg?

RRP 500sgd
C&C 10% disc.

[amurray]

autobarn here can get them in here for u

[Ivan_Y]

good price there. hows it feel? they said it will gain 5hp in k&n website, is that true?

[JaCe]

good price there. hows it feel? they said it will gain 5hp in k&n website, is that true?

When you consider it's around 350aud after conversion with no shipping costs (since I carried it myself), it's a pretty good price.

The dyno charts in the shop said 5.7hp gain from memory- but I'll wait until I install it this weekend. Shall post soundbytes or something as well.

[cracker]

5.7 hp? i dont wanna sound like a kunt but...thats not much is it?

[markCivicVti]

^ well for a hot air intake.... err... i mean short ram intake... thats more than you can hope for.

[SaBReT00tH]

what risks does CAI have?????

[JaCe]

what risks does CAI have?????

FAQ: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42865

[markCivicVti]

what risks does CAI have?????


You can hydrolock your engine. Basically the Cai is sitting behind your front bumper facing down'ish. If you've got a lowered car your risk is greater. Basically, if you drive through high'ish water or big deep puddles and the filter is 60%+ submerged your air intake will suck in lotsa water (pending on the revs). In short... water doesn't compress like air does.. so things break.


Having said that... if I do end up changing my intake it will be a Injen CAI. Hey JaCe looking forward to seeing the SRI installed. Take lotsa happy snaps.

[JaCe]

Having said that... if I do end up changing my intake it will be a Injen CAI. Hey JaCe looking forward to seeing the SRI installed. Take lotsa happy snaps.

I actually did look at the Injen one but didn't end up going ahead with it because wasn't 100% confident it would work with my car... that, and I also was a bit scared of the CAI risk (even if you get the device to stop the water getting in).

Considering the relatively low price of the Typhoon compared to the Injen CAI, I figured that was the way to go. They also had Simotas on sale but from what I had heard from various ppl both on the forums and in real life, the Taiwanese/Asian intakes are more noise than anything else.

For more info on the Typhoon; visit official page: http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-1013TS


69-1013TS Product Specifications
Product Style: 69 Series Typhoon Kits
Estimated Horsepower Gain: 5.71 HP @ 5750 RPM
Color: Silver
Replacement Filter: RU-4960
CARB Exempt: No
System Type: Short-ram intake system
Weight: 7.4 lb (3.4 kg)
Product Box Length: 19.3 in (490 mm)
Product Box Width: 14.5 in (368 mm)
Product Box Height: 8.4 in (213 mm)


Available Information
Installation Instruction Sheet
Dyno Chart - 2006 Honda Civic 1.8L - 5.71HP Increase
Large Picture
Medium Picture
Small Picture
K&N News Story
K&N News Story
69-1013TS Vehicle Applications

Accessories
RU-4960 - Replacement Filter

Apparently the HP gain is at the wheels so it's not too bad I suppose.

[markCivicVti]

Stupid question - but does it have a air sensor slot so the ECU can use it effectively?

[JaCe]

Stupid question - but does it have a air sensor slot so the ECU can use it effectively?

Yes it does. Refer to Typhoon installation instructions for MAF sensor location.

[SaBReT00tH]

Surely this isn't right or else they wouldn't be selling CAIs?? So the water screws the engine and electronics? Sounds ridiculous.

[markCivicVti]

Surely this isn't right or else they wouldn't be selling CAIs?? So the water screws the engine and electronics? Sounds ridiculous.

You can get hydro 'socks' that help minimize the chances of it. Also you can get bypass valves to do the same. These CAIs are aftermarket parts and of course if u need warranty Honda will try and blame it on the CAI (if its related).

But seriously, how often do you drive thru 15-30 cm of water? If in doubt either don't risk it or don't rev through it as it creates more suction. Doesn't screw the electronics.... just the engine. The engine can still function with some water in it. But get too much water and the pressure becomes too much as it tries to compress the air. Short ram intakes are safer... but don't really offer the slight power increase that CAIs do.

[BC8]

autobarn here can get them in here for u

so its avaliable to order from autobarn?

[amurray]

yea man i looked into it.. just take the part number 2 them and they will do it.. although i kno alot the autobarn ppl so maybe it was just special treatment

[JaCe]

omg... i'm really happy with the typhoon intake on the fd1. it's very good =] I will post a proper mini review later but so far, it feels fantastic. suddenly the engine became 10x more responsive. it's really noticeable when overtaking and going up hills- suddenly i don't fall behind so much on a hill? *shrugs*

below 2000rpm, it feels nearly stock.. throttle is more sensitive but not actually going any faster. once u pass the 2500rpm mark though, it makes a huge difference. a very low rumbling sound and acceleration is fantastic compared to before. it's accentuating the engine's natural characteristics.

shall post pics of the install later.

here's a quick pic
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/601/img1355xr6.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1355xr6.jpg)

[Frost_FD]

Good Job Jace! i might have to post up how a injen one sounds above 2.5k

[denot]

JaCe, are you considering to install a "Ghetto" style custom airbox for the Filter?

[destrukshn]

JaCe, are you considering to install a "Ghetto" style custom airbox for the Filter?
it comes with a box already, it practically seals it self with the bonnet.

[denot]

it comes with a box already, it practically seals it self with the bonnet.

nice... so its kinda limit the hot air that got sucked in?

[faction]

So for the Civ Sports will this model be suitable or would I need the 69-1014TS? The Knfilters.com page only lists the 1.8l on the 1013TS and 2.0l US on the 1014TS.

[denot]

So for the Civ Sports will this model be suitable or would I need the 69-1014TS? The Knfilters.com page only lists the 1.8l on the 1013TS and 2.0l US on the 1014TS.

hahahah, u already asked the same question as what I want to ask :p

[JaCe]

Civic Sports has a different model- I'm 99% sure of it. I remember seeing different box for the FD2 in Singapore.

Kudos to BK Automotive for the install.

As for recording the sound- any ideas how to record it? I tried using my phone but I don't think the microphone is good enough- didn't sound very good when playing it back. Also since it's an automatic, am I better off recording in Neutral or Park?

[Mingy]

omg... i'm really happy with the typhoon intake on the fd1. it's very good =] I will post a proper mini review later but so far, it feels fantastic. suddenly the engine became 10x more responsive. it's really noticeable when overtaking and going up hills- suddenly i don't fall behind so much on a hill? *shrugs*

below 2000rpm, it feels nearly stock.. throttle is more sensitive but not actually going any faster. once u pass the 2500rpm mark though, it makes a huge difference. a very low rumbling sound and acceleration is fantastic compared to before. it's accentuating the engine's natural characteristics.

shall post pics of the install later.

here's a quick pic
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/601/img1355xr6.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1355xr6.jpg)

You champion JaCe!! i wanna do the same mod now :D

[JaCe]

Definitely recommend it. I'm planning on doing headers next- there are quite a few components for the R18 now!

[Frost_FD]

How much power do headers add???

[DamienS]

So is it worth doing this mod to an Auto 1.8?

[JaCe]

So is it worth doing this mod to an Auto 1.8?


It makes a worthwhile difference but be warned it blocks the automatic dipstick... might cause issues when doing servicing.

[denot]

but be warned it blocks the automatic dipstick...

how did u get around this problem again, JaCe?

[JaCe]

how did u get around this problem again, JaCe?

I didn't. I got them to check the dipstick before they did the install (the guy is a qualified Honda mechanic) and in future, I'll get my car serviced by him.

[cracker]

ur pro jace ur actually pro ive seen his car guys...he is pro

[JaCe]

After having this in for a while now, I can definitely appreciate the increased power/response. Sure it's not going to set any records, but it's a significant improvement over the stock which I've become accustomed to.

Here's a few more pics;
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5369/img1369cw9.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1369cw9.jpg) http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4498/img1371uf8.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1371uf8.jpg) http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3205/img1386wz5.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1386wz5.jpg) http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1517/img1374ns1.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1374ns1.jpg)

[cracker]

man dont touch ur fd1 jace i reckon it looks really really good kinda like a sleeper ive seen that automobile at north sydney

[denot]

JaCe, you dont have any body kit at all rite? dang it looks nice!!

[JaCe]

JaCe, you dont have any body kit at all rite? dang it looks nice!!

Nope stock body with the Mugen wing. Planning to add a replica Mugen kit very soon though.

As for the intake, it's still going well. I want to try driving a stock FD1 again though just so I can really appreciate it.

[denot]

is is that easy to replace back to the stockies?

[JaCe]

is is that easy to replace back to the stockies?

Are you referring to reversing the intake out or reversing back to stock body?

[denot]

Are you referring to reversing the intake out or reversing back to stock body?

sorry i meant the intake :p

[JaCe]

Shouldn't be too hard to reverse out since it was all screwed in and using stock mounting points- but it will still require a bit of time.

[JaCe]

Just thought I'd bump since this is being asked about alot now...

[sam.]

hey dude u mentioned headers for the fd1, do the even make headers for them i thought/and it looks like the manifold is a weird lookin cast item that flows right into the cat which is also in a weird place!, how do these headers fit up do u have any pics or prices as i'm keen on gettin sum after i get typhoon

[JaCe]

i did? *bad memory but tbh i don't know what's available for fd*

[JaCe]

To answer a question posted from the other thread;
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82476



n can i ask how much is the K&N typoon kit you bought ??
where did u buy it ??

As mentioned in this thread I bought it in Singapore for approx $450sgd which equates to roughly $345-$360aud depending on exchange rate of the day. Brought it back by plane myself as check-in luggage (along with my food and various other bits). No issues with customs (item not declared as not required AFAIK). Weight isn't too heavy either but Qantas were generous considering I had 30+kg in economy. Installation approx $50 from BK.

[triode12]

To answer a question posted from the other thread;
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82476



As mentioned in this thread I bought it in Singapore for approx $450sgd which equates to roughly $345-$360aud depending on exchange rate of the day. Brought it back by plane myself as check-in luggage (along with my food and various other bits). No issues with customs (item not declared as not required AFAIK). Weight isn't too heavy either but Qantas were generous considering I had 30+kg in economy. Installation approx $50 from BK.

Hi Jace,

Is there a version for the Civic Sport?

[JaCe]

Not sure about FD2 when it comes to the Typhoon but there are definitely quite a few CAIs available for the FD2 (Sport) model.

May also wanna check out this old thread; http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80923&highlight=intake

[SaBReT00tH]

Hey Jace is the K&N Typhoon CAI better than the Injen one??

How are any of those better than the stock Air intake valve that comes with the Honda Civic? Is it just more free flowing and a little more free flowing than a K&N airfilter?

[JaCe]

1. Wouldn't know about the Injen one. No way to compare.

2. My understanding is that the pod filter, like any kind of aftermarket intake system is considerably more effective at getting air in, but the trade-off is the fact that it becomes hella more noisy in doing so. Unlike the K&N Panel Filter which had close to zero noticeable improvement, the Typhoon is very noticeable. Even the engine noise at idle is slightly different; but it really only kicks in at around 3000rpm++ and you really feel the difference.

[aaronng]

Noisy? It's music! :)

[JaCe]

Noisy? It's music! :)

Music is what you hear if you're inside.

I still remember when we first put it in, brand new, I was standing near it with the hood open, and then suddenly VROOOM!! and wow. It was quite a shocker! Never heard my innocent little Civic scream like that before.

[dannybubu]

yep correct...it only kicks in around the 3k rpm mark but there are also noticeable low end loss...

[denot]

yep correct...it only kicks in around the 3k rpm mark but there are also noticeable low end loss...

does this means if we change gear on 2500 rpm (auto car). its a loss???? :(

[JaCe]

No it just means that it won't do anything unless you are holding the accelerator down in such a way that the auto won't shift. It makes alot more sense when you actually drive with it everyday and learn to use it.

[denot]

I want one for FD2... :(

[JaCe]

There are much more products for FD2- just look around :) CAIs perhaps?

[Frost_FD]

This is a short vid of my injen CAI

Ill try to get a better vid since this was difficult to record driving with one hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKZKPjpXmYs

[xqwzit]

mugen and gruppeM intake for fd2 ftw :P

[triode12]

mugen and gruppeM intake for fd2 ftw :P

Will the gruppeM RAM intake for the FD2 type R fit the Civic Sport?
I read somewhere that the Type R is wider than the normal FDs, since the gruppeM RAM intake for the FD2 Type R comes with a custom window tray, I wonder if there will be a difference in fit.

[SaBReT00tH]

do you guys know the best priced place for someone in Oz to source the Typhoon SRI? I was thinking US ebay or something but I hate buying stuff on there.

[denot]

do you guys know the best priced place for someone in Oz to source the Typhoon SRI? I was thinking US ebay or something but I hate buying stuff on there.

think JaCe might know...

[xiaohung]

do you guys know the best priced place for someone in Oz to source the Typhoon SRI? I was thinking US ebay or something but I hate buying stuff on there.

You can get them from Autobarn or Repco, but they'll charge you around $200 extra compared to Ebay.

I just bought off ebay last week, now it's under the hood.

Cheers!

[JaCe]

Sorry I don't know much about buying in Aus as I got mine from Singapore.


You can get them from Autobarn or Repco, but they'll charge you around $200 extra compared to Ebay.

I just bought off ebay last week, now it's under the hood.

Cheers!

Haha how'd it go? Feels alot nicer right? Try using PULP too :)

[xiaohung]

I don't know, I couldn't tell the difference except it makes a lot nicer noise LOL..

I've been using V power since I bought the car.

[SaBReT00tH]

did you have to cut any holes at all whilst installing the Typhoon intake? I think there are 2 different ones on ebay, one with description R18 and then another one for 1.8litres. Which one is the correct one for the Honda Civic JDM 1.8L FD?

[xiaohung]

I didn't cut any holes when installed mine.
here's the product code

K&N Applications for 69-1013TS

[JaCe]

everything is essentially bolt on. no holes or anything required.

[parraboi]

hi jace, i got my simota pod filter installed yesterday but after driving for a while the check engine light came on!? im wondering wats happening there? should i take it to a dealer and ask them to turn the light off? i know it probably has something to do with the increased air density from the new filter. what should i do?

[rk 86 wa]

ur check engine light is on because its a different sort of airflow to stock intake lol... i has simota charger, just disconnect battery and reconnect, should fix problem easy.

as to gruppe m intake for fd2, would it be wise? wouldnt the throttle body be different sizes, hence different intake piping diametre?

if its different size, you will:

1) not even fit it lol

2) probably get a massivly turbulant air flow due to change in diametre, eddy currents etc and prob be worse for the car imo lol

[JaCe]

Is the Simota charger any good? The shop which sold me the Typhoon also had those for sale.

As mentioned above, it's probably just due to your MAF picking up funky signals and needs a reset.

[parraboi]

i used the simota intake system for a day, the light came on after 50km so i took it off and put on the factory air box and thought about going to the dealer today and ask them why is this happening. but this morning when i turned on the engine the light is gone lol. but thanks for the info if it comes on again ill just unplug the bat. alos today i replaced the simota filter with a k&n one for 40 bucks extra, tbh i thought the simota filter gave me better response at lower ends and sounded lounder.

[aaronng]

i used the simota intake system for a day, the light came on after 50km so i took it off and put on the factory air box and thought about going to the dealer today and ask them why is this happening. but this morning when i turned on the engine the light is gone lol. but thanks for the info if it comes on again ill just unplug the bat. alos today i replaced the simota filter with a k&n one for 40 bucks extra, tbh i thought the simota filter gave me better response at lower ends and sounded lounder.

Because of the air flow meter on the FD1, you might get a CEL with any aftermarket pod.

[parraboi]

hmm guys i need some help, the cel came on agian and after i disconnected the negative of the battery, the light went away then came on again after roughly 10kms. i think the computer need to be adjusted to tolerate the new airflow figures or something? i cant go to the dealers coz i think they will void my warranty. do u guys know anyone can help me with that?

[kazam]

just get SRI with box.... thats FTW CAI sux ass

[SaBReT00tH]

Hey Jace,
I read about a few people in the US who fitted the same SRI to their automatic civics and cut a hole out of the heat guard to allow the dipstick to be accessed. Have you thought about this or would this prevent the shield from working properly?

Does anyone know much about the Complete Cold Air Intakess that K&N offer? They allow you to convert from SRI to CAI. As it's quite dry here in summer I was thinking of getting one and converting it to CAI in summer and then to SRI in winter (when it rains), thus preventing risk of hydrolock and allowing cooler air for the summer heat when winter isn't there to cool the engine.

I actually haven't seen much info on the CCAIs on the net or forums.

[JaCe]

Hey Jace,
I read about a few people in the US who fitted the same SRI to their automatic civics and cut a hole out of the heat guard to allow the dipstick to be accessed. Have you thought about this or would this prevent the shield from working properly?

Does anyone know much about the Complete Cold Air Intakess that K&N offer? They allow you to convert from SRI to CAI. As it's quite dry here in summer I was thinking of getting one and converting it to CAI in summer and then to SRI in winter (when it rains), thus preventing risk of hydrolock and allowing cooler air for the summer heat when winter isn't there to cool the engine.

I actually haven't seen much info on the CCAIs on the net or forums.

1. Heard of it but not game enough to do it. Maybe I should since it's probably important to check the transmission!
2. It shouldn't impact the performance of the intake but I'll let an expert answer this.
3. Never heard of- but it sounds promising.

[SaBReT00tH]

Does anyone else have any advice? I wanna get one and install it right now but I'm trying to figure out whether I should leave the heat shield in tact or somehow cut a hole in it for the dipstick. My main concern is that a hole in the heat shield will make it ineffective at helping cool the engine bay air and cause damage to the effectiveness of the SRI.

[kazam]

y would u cut a whole in the head shield? heat shields are useful for SRI and they help u sometimes skip a potential defect if the copper cant directly see the pod he'll think nothing of it, u have an automatic civic, u have no real power as it is, and only advanatge of CAI as oppose to SRI is its SLIGHT SLIGHT power increase, i reckn no point, just get a normal SRI (which'll sound MUCH better aswell) and leave the heat shield on, no point cutting a hole which will only be effective once in a blue moon...

[aaronng]

Does anyone else have any advice? I wanna get one and install it right now but I'm trying to figure out whether I should leave the heat shield in tact or somehow cut a hole in it for the dipstick. My main concern is that a hole in the heat shield will make it ineffective at helping cool the engine bay air and cause damage to the effectiveness of the SRI.

If this is for the auto trans fluid dipstick, no, don't cut a hole. You don't check your ATF level as often as engine oil. If you do have to check, just take the heat shield off.

[SaBReT00tH]

ok thanks Aaron, I think I'll leave it in tact then. Hopefully the heat shield won't be too hard to remove when it comes time to check the dipstick.

[aaronng]

ok thanks Aaron, I think I'll leave it in tact then. Hopefully the heat shield won't be too hard to remove when it comes time to check the dipstick.
It shouldn't be, because you will have to remove it when it is time to clean the pod. So it should be designed to be removed reasonably easily.

[SaBReT00tH]

I've noticed since I installed my Typhoon my petrol usage has increased!!! I haven't even been flooring the accelerator. Has anyone noticed the same thing?

[Frost_FD]

I get 30 KMs more with my injen CAI =D

[SaBReT00tH]

Hmm, anyone else had increase fuel consumption with the typhoon?

[dannybubu]

yeh i think i have slightly less milage as well...and some low end loss...not sure for you guys but that's what i found...i drive manual fd1...

[JaCe]

I've noticed since I installed my Typhoon my petrol usage has increased!!! I haven't even been flooring the accelerator. Has anyone noticed the same thing?

I'm getting that too... maybe we are addicted to the higher-rpm sound? *shrugs*

[aaronng]

For normal driving at low RPM, you are probably having to apply more throttle to get the same amount of acceleration since CAI usually causes a little bit of torque lost at low RPM due to the long piping.

[SaBReT00tH]

it's killing me with the combination or the high price of petrol, especially since I use premium unleaded and have lots of hills and 80km speed zones that I go through. I agree Jase, I was thinking that I was doing more RPMs to get that sound and maybe doing 6000 RPM per gear change is injecting that engine through the free flowing filter with a little too much petrol.

[markCivicVti]

Amazon have the fd1 k&N sri (typhoon) for US$166 .. but they won't ship to australia :(

I'm looking at getting one if I can find it cheap... if not I'll have to chose between a exhaust system and mugen replica kit.

[kongfu]

K&N is pretty much useless...

[Frost_FD]

Amazon have the fd1 k&N sri (typhoon) for US$166 .. but they won't ship to australia :(

I'm looking at getting one if I can find it cheap... if not I'll have to chose between a exhaust system and mugen replica kit.

Why dont you get the AEM or Injen? SRI or CAI?

If you need help PM me

[JaCe]

Just thought I'd bump this thread since so many people have been PM'ing and posting threads about this lately.

[JOhnnyFD]

i know this is a noob question but... what is diff btw CAI and SRI??

[JOhnnyFD]

dont worry abt it http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42865 my bad

[JaCe]

Has anyone seen these kits for sale anywhere? Trying to figure out what the going rate is for one of these.