View Full Version : most powerful B16A in australia/NZ?
tinkerbell
20-08-2004, 06:49 PM
anyone know what it is?
oh - i am talking NA!
i cant afford to chase the 310kW plus that James puts out...
anyone know about any super hi-po NZ B16A's??
needs to be under 1600cc
thanks!
PS - anyone know of any from the states too? have been searching but they worship B18C's too much - "why bother - just get a B18C, LOL!"
SIKCVC
21-08-2004, 12:30 AM
theres a Guy in NZ with an SiRII whos putting out 179kw@FrontWheels with an 80shot of NOS.
NOS is still NA, its a fuel. So garn!!!
that sir II might get his engiene blown up tmr...
SIKCVC
21-08-2004, 01:01 AM
are you saying that from experience/you know the guy?
From what I've read honda's take to NOS like a duck to water.
is this the red eg sedan with skrema plates ur talking about?
n2o is not a fuel, it is forced induction.
-2ds
carbine
21-08-2004, 11:50 AM
It is a fuel, because oxygen is a fuel. But I reckon its forced induction.
Anyway who cares. Its cheating.
since when has "air" been considered a fuel ?
last time i checked you don't worry about your fuel/fuel ratio... =p
and n2o is forcred induction because it forces more "air" into the cylinder
-2ds
tinkerbell
21-08-2004, 06:46 PM
not sure why i even bothered really...
not sure why i even bothered really...
lmao..
joneblaze
21-08-2004, 07:18 PM
not sure why i even bothered really...
ROFL....*pat on back*
crx_16x
22-08-2004, 12:36 AM
I remember a blue EK Vti-r that Hybrid Vision built a few years ago.
Will try to find the article on it.
All bottom end replaced, worked head, quad throttle bodies.
Used to see it round the north shore every now and then it has a carbon bonnet with "Merwede" suspension stickers on the side.
OLM-02R
22-08-2004, 03:04 PM
not sure why i even bothered really...
Hahahahahahahhahahaha :D :D :D
carbine
22-08-2004, 06:35 PM
since when has "air" been considered a fuel ?
last time i checked you don't worry about your fuel/fuel ratio... =p
and n2o is forcred induction because it forces more "air" into the cylinder
-2ds
Its not "air" its oxygen. As the n2o is heated its spilts into nitrogen and oxygen.
The reaction that occurs when n2o is used in conjunction with normal operation is
2N2O --->(heat) 4N + O2
2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O
The fuels(reactants) involved in this reaction are N20(NawZ), O2 (Oxygen) and C8H18 (octane- petrol). In this case I used C8H18 as the molecules contained in the petrol, petrol actually contains many different alkanes. I use one for simplicity.
Fuel isn't just the term used for petrol
fu·el ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fyl)
n.
1.Something consumed to produce energy.
tinkerbell
22-08-2004, 07:19 PM
I remember a blue EK Vti-r that Hybrid Vision built a few years ago.
Will try to find the article on it.
All bottom end replaced, worked head, quad throttle bodies.
sweet - that is the info i am after - particular quad TB's!
if you can find the article - i would be interested in a bit more info ;)
(NZ) workshopX -Corey- b16a2 jdm da6 integra
his personal best was 13.1sec ( allmotor )
i cant remember what does he pull on a dyno.
bumography
23-08-2004, 01:00 AM
N20, Superchargers and Turbo's are all forms of forced induction. nuff said
Okay arsehole! The reason I used "air" to describe it is because, as you said, it's not air. I was simplifying it because it's not really ****ing important in anyway what n2o is, just that it is FI because it puts more "air" into the cylinder.
Now, onto technology specific terminology. last time I checked, when talking about cars (which is exactly what we are doing in this forum I seem to remember) and internal combustion engines, the generally accepted terms for the stuff which is burnt in the cylinder are (yes, that's right, you ****ing guessed it!) "air" and "fuel".
Seeing as n2o can't be "fuel" (it isn't stored in the "fuel" tank, it doesn't travel down the "fuel" lines, it doesn't end up in the cylinder via the "fuel" injection system(lets not split hairs over direct port injection at this time seeing as it's totally irrelevant)). This leaves only one other thing, "air", which is what n2o must be.
Have you noticed that when using n2o you have to actually inject more "fuel" to keep the "fuel" / "air" ratio correct.
Now, next time before you run off on some bullshit crusade with your dictionary(which contains _incorrect_ definitions of terminonlogy for this context) and your F&F internet chemistry set go and actually figure out what you are talking about. Or even better, post something helpfull instead of picking fights with people about shit that doesn't matter and posting things that only serve to confuse others.
Then again, why not just spend you time on theforum.com instead. you'd like it there.
Uh, sorry tinkerbell :D
-2ds
Its not "air" its oxygen. As the n2o is heated its spilts into nitrogen and oxygen.
The reaction that occurs when n2o is used in conjunction with normal operation is
2N2O --->(heat) 4N + O2
2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O
The fuels(reactants) involved in this reaction are N20(NawZ), O2 (Oxygen) and C8H18 (octane- petrol). In this case I used C8H18 as the molecules contained in the petrol, petrol actually contains many different alkanes. I use one for simplicity.
Fuel isn't just the term used for petrol
fu·el ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fyl)
n.
1.Something consumed to produce energy.
tinkerbell
23-08-2004, 10:42 AM
please keep it on topic 2ds,
if i am capable of ignoring the n2o trolls - so can you!
everyone should *know* n2o is NOT "forced induction" but everyone should ALSO *know* that it is not "NORMAL ASPIRATION".
simple eh?
EG5 - was that B16A internally stock?
tinkerbell:
from what i heard he is running stock internal with bolt on's
and massive weight reduction.
no dash , no interior etc..
tinkerbell, i respectfully dispute what you say =)
good luck with your quest, lol, i might even have some information for you eventually, when i actually get time and money to work on my car =)
-2ds
carbine
23-08-2004, 04:50 PM
Sorry sunshine im correcting you because you were wrong and still are.
Sorry sunshine im correcting you because you were wrong and still are.
prove it or shut up
-2ds
pornstar
23-08-2004, 06:09 PM
prove it or shut up
-2ds
what he said
Setanta
23-08-2004, 06:58 PM
lol... man tinkerbell, you really thought this wouldn't become a bitchfest that has nothing to do with the topic?? :D
Setanta
23-08-2004, 06:59 PM
This is kind of appropriate:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~setanta/misc/domesticthug.jpg
^^^bwahahah :D
anyways, back to the topic... do B16B's count? or r u after B16As particularly? cos i remember seeing sum quad throttle bodies on sum civics... let me c if i can dig the pics up for ya.
The Rodrez shoot of an EG had quad tb... check it out here. Sorry i dun have any more info for ya... not sure if it's B16 or B18 either
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=957195
Here's one of the pics (reduced quality)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/ek9/Honda/rodrezegquadtb.jpg
OLM-02R
23-08-2004, 07:47 PM
tinkerbell:
from what i heard he is running stock internal with bolt on's
and massive weight reduction.
no dash , no interior etc..
yeah thats wat everyone said...stock internals... :D :D :D until u open it u see all these stuff hehehehehhehehe :D :D then it wont be stock n e more...offcourse no one wants to say their mods...thats their secrets...
tinkerbell
23-08-2004, 07:54 PM
^^^bwahahah :D
anyways, back to the topic... do B16B's count? or r u after B16As particularly? cos i remember seeing sum quad throttle bodies on sum civics... let me c if i can dig the pics up for ya.
nah - not pics - i want SPECS
ie what internals, what cams, what EMS, what headwork, waht size TB/s...
then hopefully some numbers...
but hey - not everyone wants to share their mods right ;)
EK9: Chad's EG is a show car only... i dont think he dare to race it.
ok then... last pic :) located this on sum japanese site... pretty sure it's a B16A from and EK4.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/ek9/Honda/yoshioka002.jpg
i'm trying hard to find the page again for u... it's not in my history, so i'm sorting thru all these japanese sites looking for ya! LOL! i'll get back to u wen i find it (hopefully) ;)
if ur thinking i can read japanese, i can't... just trying to use memory work here :D
EK9: Chad's EG is a show car only... i dont think he dare to race it.
yeah, prob not... wouldn't wanna chip that paint work! nah, i couldn't be bothered looking thru the thread on 56k... *sigh* i need broadband...
anyways, still searching for ya tinkerbell... i ain't giving up yet! :cool:
fueltank
23-08-2004, 08:20 PM
damn I reckon carbine and 2ds could argue over a piece of paper until the cows come home.
wynode
23-08-2004, 08:28 PM
damn I reckon carbine and 2ds could argue over a piece of paper until the cows come home.
They can do that elsewhere in their own thread. 2cds, and carbine do not reply here off topic again.
tinkerbell
23-08-2004, 08:49 PM
ok then... last pic :) located this on sum japanese site... pretty sure it's a B16A from and EK4.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/ek9/Honda/yoshioka002.jpg
i'm trying hard to find the page again for u... it's not in my history, so i'm sorting thru all these japanese sites looking for ya! LOL! i'll get back to u wen i find it (hopefully) ;)
if ur thinking i can read japanese, i can't... just trying to use memory work here :D
mmmmm, tasty ITB's - those ones look custom made...
i would love to know if anyone in Australia has done ITB's for a street car and how it turned out?
BAM! Found it!!!! WOOHOO!!!
Sum appetisers...
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/4suro01.jpg
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/4suro04.jpg
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/4suro19.jpg
Yes, i'm a pic freak... Check it out
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/tune56.html
Ok, this is a CRAZY EK9 buildup site but i can't translate anything, so sumone else hasta translate this page for ya... sorry!
Altavista babel doesn't do it either... i'm trying to get a friend to translate it atm, so i'm waiting on that.
Cheers. :D
carbine
24-08-2004, 10:01 PM
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/tune42.html
WOW.
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/shiftlamp11.jpg
bizee_1
25-08-2004, 04:25 AM
I remember a blue EK Vti-r that Hybrid Vision built a few years ago.
Will try to find the article on it.
All bottom end replaced, worked head, quad throttle bodies.
Used to see it round the north shore every now and then it has a carbon bonnet with "Merwede" suspension stickers on the side.
Tinkerbell, i think this is the article crx_16x is talking about.
Hot4s October 2000.
1998 EK VtiR
B16A, Spoon Crankshaft, Crower rods, Spoon valves/retainers, Vision 288in, 275ex camshafts, Spoon adj. vernier gears, 11.4:1 c/r, Spoon high-volume oil pump, ERM quad t/b, Trust 330cc injectors, GT-R fuel pump, Microtech MT8 programmable ECU, Spoon 2.5" exhaust w/ matching Spoon 4-2-1 header, Type-R radiator, Spoon flywheel, Type-R clutch, Cusco 2way LSD, 4.9 fd ratio, Hybrid quickshifter.
Z Speed front rotors & Trust brake pads, Merwede 24 way adj. custom sussy. [F]10kg/mm springs, [R]8kg/mm springs, Mugen suspension bushes, Spoon upper & lower strut braces.....
running avgas C12..estimated 210(155kw) ponies @9200rpm street rev limit. [not specified at flywheel or wheels...] initial testing showed 0-100km/h 6.3-6.5 secs.
bizee_1
25-08-2004, 04:35 AM
as quoted from a magazine, Hot 4s Nov '99,
Croydon have seen 260hp (194kW) from a worked B16A.
And can also supply & fit a ready built B16A crate engine with guaranteed 260hp for around $12,500.00
(i like reading magazines if anyone has noticed)
Setanta
25-08-2004, 07:35 AM
12,500 for a motor????? You could buy a real car with an equally powerful motor for that money!!! And it'd have torque where needed :D:D:D
tinkerbell
25-08-2004, 09:56 AM
as quoted from a magazine, Hot 4s Nov '99,
Croydon have seen 260hp (194kW) from a worked B16A.
And can also supply & fit a ready built B16A crate engine with guaranteed 260hp for around $12,500.00
(i like reading magazines if anyone has noticed)
hmmm, 260hp at the flywheel i hope!
that is about 130kw atw...
bit pricey, but includes installation.
you woudl need ECU and lots of other upgrades to match the high power output...
Haha, $12,500!
Well got that info for bout that ITB from a very nice American friend of mine... it's here, down the bottom...
http://www.oer.co.jp/sportsinjection/index.html
Um, yeah... good luck translatin the japanese :D
tinkerbell
25-08-2004, 10:00 AM
BAM! Found it!!!! WOOHOO!!!
Sum appetisers...
Yes, i'm a pic freak... Check it out
http://ek9.web.infoseek.co.jp/tune56.html
Ok, this is a CRAZY EK9 buildup site but i can't translate anything, so sumone else hasta translate this page for ya... sorry!
Altavista babel doesn't do it either... i'm trying to get a friend to translate it atm, so i'm waiting on that.
Cheers. :D
that site goes for sooooooo many pages - that guy has fully replaced everything he can remove!
thanks for the link :)
oops... actually http://babelfish.altavista.com/ can translate for u, but u don't get much spec info on that page, just pricing
MRJDM
25-08-2004, 02:48 PM
if you gonna spent 12500 on a motor it'll have to be a k20. i know charlie has one just waiting to be installed
crx_16x
26-08-2004, 12:06 AM
Tinkerbell, i think this is the article crx_16x is talking about.
Hot4s October 2000.
1998 EK VtiR
B16A, Spoon Crankshaft, Crower rods, Spoon valves/retainers, Vision 288in, 275ex camshafts, Spoon adj. vernier gears, 11.4:1 c/r, Spoon high-volume oil pump, ERM quad t/b, Trust 330cc injectors, GT-R fuel pump, Microtech MT8 programmable ECU, Spoon 2.5" exhaust w/ matching Spoon 4-2-1 header, Type-R radiator, Spoon flywheel, Type-R clutch, Cusco 2way LSD, 4.9 fd ratio, Hybrid quickshifter.
Z Speed front rotors & Trust brake pads, Merwede 24 way adj. custom sussy. [F]10kg/mm springs, [R]8kg/mm springs, Mugen suspension bushes, Spoon upper & lower strut braces.....
running avgas C12..estimated 210(155kw) ponies @9200rpm street rev limit. [not specified at flywheel or wheels...] initial testing showed 0-100km/h 6.3-6.5 secs.
That's the car I was thinking of bizee_1 Thanks!
Would be quite a weapon.
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