quad throttle?

[NVD52K]

hey guys i was wandering if anyone has a quad throttle i was thinking about getting a toda sports injection kit with a carbon fibre plenum to adapt onto the stock cold air intake
http://http://todaracingusa.com/product?section=product&omid=3&cid=11&id=613

[vyets]

ITB are horrible for daily!

[Slaz]

Proper tuned quads are no problem daily driven.

Have you done anything else to your motor??

[m0nty ITR]

Plenty of other thing I'd do before spending over $3k on ITBs. How about an ECU and I/H/E? All of these will need to be done before you just throw quads onto the car.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

id love to run itbs on my car. but like monty said plenty of other things you could do first to the car.

[NVD52K]

well i just ordered in aem computer,toda spec c cams,toda exhaust,toda clutch kit, but im thinking of doing a full rebuild and making it a 2.4litre but see how it goes still waiting on parts to come in then i will decide

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ shit. thats a fair bit of stuff already. how much did you pay for the aem ems??

[ludecrs]

X2 on the AEM EMS.

[m0nty ITR]

well i just ordered in aem computer,toda spec c cams,toda exhaust,toda clutch kit, but im thinking of doing a full rebuild and making it a 2.4litre but see how it goes still waiting on parts to come in then i will decide

Order yourself some new valve springs while you're at it. Get them in at the same time.

[NVD52K]

oh yeh i got the whole thing valves,gears,cams as a kit
aem computer i got for $2300

[rayb3na_]

wow money to burn baby!! jealous =[

[CRXONE]

What out happen if you ONLY put quad throttles on a stock set up? Including stock exhaust etc... :confused::confused:

(and have the car tuned)

[aaronng]

You get a loud car?

[Perry]

What out happen if you ONLY put quad throttles on a stock set up? Including stock exhaust etc... :confused::confused:

(and have the car tuned)
I think it will run pretty bad

[NVD52K]

you need a ecu to tune it properly and it wouldn't run the best although if you guys type in pacman s2000 on youtube you can see an s2000 with itbs with exhaust and aem computer thats all he has as he says in the video sounds nice

[fatboyz39]

quads = loud induction.

[WhiteAP1]

well i just ordered in aem computer,toda spec c cams,toda exhaust,toda clutch kit, but im thinking of doing a full rebuild and making it a 2.4litre but see how it goes still waiting on parts to come in then i will decide

Im guessing uve got TODA valve springs coming too with those cams. U should also look into getting F22C retainers to top that package off. The AP1 retainers are a little brittle and a titanium set wont last long for a daily. Check out HardTopGuy's web site. Should be able to get a set for around $200..... well worth it.

[flipstar]

yeah man i was watching this pacman s2k on youtube bloody itbs are bloody LOUD

[CRXONE]

LOUD INDUCTION IS THE BEST! ECU and Quad Throttle bodies and stock exhaust would have the most amazing roar.

[flipstar]

but wouldnt it get annoying after a while is there like filters you can put on them 2 dampen the sound??

[NVD52K]

im not to sure you can get something to cover it though

[NVD52K]

i bought my quad throttle just recently hasnt came in yet usually have to wait about 2 weeks but since chinese new year and stuff people over in japan having a break when it comes in and i get everything put in ill show you the over all production

[shadou]

you can get filters and box to cover ITB's yeah? think I saw it a trader on ozhonda selling something like that, not sure if it dampens or muffles the sound though never played around with ITB's or seen them up close.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

how much did the itbs set you back? btw you live out west dont you?

[xntrik]

Dont get quadies if you have a near stock engine. >_>
even with h/e dont get quads yet til you get internals.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ what makes you say that?

barefootbonzai's ek was running a b18cr with i/h/e + toda a (hardly aggressive cams) + hondata and it was kicking ass....

itbs dont really give much of a power boost but improved throttle response esp mid range. definately makes the car much more fun to drive

[xntrik]

^
+cams & hondata.


where as all i mentioned was
i/h/e.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

obviously if his gona run itbs he would have to get a fully tunable ecu regardless. You dont nessecarily need to run cams to have itbs.

all comes down to what he is trying to achieve with the car.

[xntrik]

Y::.;1533882']obviously if his gona run itbs he would have to get a fully tunable ecu regardless. You dont nessecarily need to run cams to have itbs.

all comes down to what he is trying to achieve with the car.

but the effort with itbs wouldnt run as great compared to internals being built as well no?

rather just cai, if its just h/e + ecu

[.::F[L]Y::.]

of course it would all run better if you have everything done. but in your orginal post you were indicating that its not worthwhile to get itbs on a stock motor which bolt ons which isnt true....

if you have actually been in a car with itbs then you will see what i mean.

[xntrik]

Y::.;1533895']of course it would all run better if you have everything done. but in your orginal post you were indicating that its not worthwhile to get itbs on a stock motor which bolt ons which isnt true....

if you have actually been in a car with itbs then you will see what i mean.

i just think its a waste of money getting itbs on stock motor.
even if the response is better (which is expected as your running itbs)
it wont be at its full potential. for 2-4k you can get things that'll increase power and response. possibly more than itb on its own.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

haha i agree with what you have said.

but if you have the money to do so why not ay?

[xntrik]

Y::.;1533900']haha i agree with what you have said.

but if you have the money to do so why not ay?

damn rich people. T_T;

[NVD52K]

yeh i do live out west..just got my car recently.. i bought heaps of parts already just waiting for them to come in gona get (is motor racing) a guy called indy to install everything

[NVD52K]

$3200

[eriktufa]

Someone has installed ITB on stock s2k and it's awesome.

It's much faster than s2k with i/h/e by far but you need ecu to control ITB so the cost will be around 5000 ish plus ecu + tune plus labour, you also need tune or winter and summer as the air temp will be completely different.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ can you get some clips or pictures of it? do you know which itb setup the guy is running??

[eriktufa]

No Clips but search for wildcardtbd I think, his running 52mm Jenvey ITBs.

[NVD52K]

i know a guy who did jenvey there good uk brand although you have to change the some sensors from the uk

[barefootbonzai]

don't listen to some of the guys on here that have no first hand experience.

Fly knows, his seen and heard my car in action. I had quads on my car, with a pretty much stock motor setup just with I(quads)/H/E and Ecu tune. And it was AWSOME! I'd do it all again if i had the chance.

As for drivability on the road, that comes down to the quality of your quads and tuner. I ran A-sport quads with DynoDave tuning and my car drove just like a stock car, just with more punch through out the rev range.

We have tried other quad such as TWM with no such luck. The sticky throttle issue with that brand makes them very hard to drive on the road.

[NVD52K]

did u try toda? and a cover for it?

[Chi]

BMW M3s run ITB, they seem fine for daily to me.

[CRXONE]

Fuk it Vortex Supercharger kit for $6000 ~ Bring it on! 230kw! rather than 180kw!

But you dont get the quad sound :-(

I wish i knew all the bloody abbreviations what on earth is h/e/ itb etc... its fkn annoying i feel like im in Japan and dont know your language.

[Chi]

I/H/E = Intake Headers Exhaust

ITB = Individual Throttle Bodies.

[grumpy rooster]

We have tried other quad such as TWM with no such luck. The sticky throttle issue with that brand makes them very hard to drive on the road.

That is tuning related with standard or near standard cams. The throttles do NOT stick. We have just done this and know first hand what we are talking about here. It is not an issue. Yes I sell them. If it was an issue I wouldn't sell them. :)

FYI, this tuning related issue is not uncommon on many different quad setups.

[ludecrs]

Fuk it Vortex Supercharger kit for $6000 ~ Bring it on! 230kw! rather than 180kw!

But you dont get the quad sound :-(

I wish i knew all the bloody abbreviations what on earth is h/e/ itb etc... its fkn annoying i feel like im in Japan and dont know your language.

lol, I'll sell you my Comptech one for $4K :p