need a new engine!!

[troys2000]

need a new s2000 engine, anyone know where i can get one and how much?
2001 jap import honda s2000. 2nd hand considered:(

[ludecrs]

Expect to pay between $2000 and $6000 dependent on kilometres and how much you're willing to be ripped off.

Or go a Spoon for $10K

Or go a new Honda one for $12K.

[fatboyz39]

Whats wrong with your current one? rebuildable?

Call around for honda wreckers. Call Hontoys, they had 2 s2k engines before.

[m0nty ITR]

SPOON!!!!!

If your engine is cactus they rebuild it using their parts.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

what happend to your motor?

[NVD52K]

yeah whats wrong with it?

[DNTBLO_S2k]

Probally Be Cheaper To Rebuild And And Do Abit Of Work To The Motor While Its Out. Sorry To Hear Man

[troys2000]

I have not had the car long maybe 6 mths. It has a blown headgasket and warped head it can not be repaired. So new engine for me.
They said it been like it for a while (NOT ME!!! I LOOK AFTER MY CARS) and the heads are at least $4500. I am looking ror a replacement found one with 20,000kms for $6000

[DNTBLO_S2k]

how did the car drive before you didnt know about it?

[AKmotorworks]

we have a few, ud be paying about 4k for one

[WhiteAP1]

Put an add in the WTB forum, plenty of traders should be able to help u out.

[troys2000]

it drove ok, but i have had a overheating problem that just got worse and now they have found this! its stuffed the head is too warped and the clinders need to be honed. They say the way you blow one is to go back too many gears and the rev limiter can do nothing!

[.::F[L]Y::.]

hey id be interested in your block if you wanna sell it when u get your new engine.

[NVD52K]

that makes me worry now lol

[ludecrs]

it drove ok, but i have had a overheating problem that just got worse and now they have found this! its stuffed the head is too warped and the clinders need to be honed. They say the way you blow one is to go back too many gears and the rev limiter can do nothing!

Commonly known in the US s2k community as overrev. Best thing to do is regularily have your valves checked and your retainers inspected. I tell this to every other S2K owner here, just to have it checked ANYWAY even if you didn't do it, the previous owner may have.

[amirul]

sorry 2 hear about it man, its the last thing u want something major like that happen to ur pride n joy.

[troys2000]

F[L]Y i will let ya know if i can, cause it will maybe a exchange. PS i love you icon makes me laugh everytime lol
I had a 80,000kms service not long ago and the valves were ok but still got adjusted a little.
Makes me worry as well, like i said dont go back too many gears
Going to sydney on the weekend for a new engine $5200

[.::F[L]Y::.]

best of luck with your new engine.

[WhiteAP1]

that makes me worry now lol

Dont be, if your gonna down gear just make sure u run through the gears sequentialy, and dont down shift while the revs are still too high. Having ure valve clearance checked every so often is a good idead too. Every service if u can afford it.

[AusS2000]

We're talking two different problems here.

A mechanical overrev will cause bent valves and probably catastrophic engine failure.

It will not cause overheating.

Overheating is caused by a failure of the cooling system. If the headgasket goes ignition gas gets into the water jacket and cooks the coolant. Driving like this too long can cause the head to warp and the engine to seize. This is the only situation where you would need to replace/rebuild your engine.

I recently picked up a head for $200.

[datzlr]

if u wanna sell me ur blown motor pm me

[troys2000]

the latest on my car is its still off the road its been 3 weeks now, I have a engine from melbourne with 50000kms on it and when they pulled out the stuffed engine they noticed the clutch needs replacement as well a exta $600 at this stage i am expecting a $2000 bill for labour and i paid $5000 on the engine!!! GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WhiteAP1]

I paid about that much for my rebuild but i got a significant upgrade. At least your car will be back on the road soon, my rebuild took almost a year.

[ludecrs]

You didnt buy the Spoon 2.2L bottom end did you White?

[WhiteAP1]

No got it sleeved and added toda 87.5mm pistons,there was also a bit of head work, repairs and labour

[troys2000]

Hi everyone!
I have had my car back for a week now. It is quieter and sounds more healthy! it must have been stuffed since i got it. ended up being very expensive around $8000 in total, but i am very happy to have it back and running so sweet!!

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ fark!!! $8000? what was done?

[fatboyz39]

fark could of got a 2.4L motor with 8k!

[thebob]

But still have to pay the 2K to install it. Then tune it.

[troys2000]

yes it was 3k in labour. And it was hard enough to find a f20c engine in OZ that is half decent

[S2000kid]

Hi all, threw a con rod in my s2k engine, needs a full replacement, anyone intrested in buying the blown engine or anyone who is selling an s2k engine please contact me asap.

hanni.elsayed@gmail.com

aaronng edit: No selling your car in here

[troys2000]

Sorry to hear that man. I know what it’s like :-(
I think I got my motor off Honwreak in Melbourne around $5000 they seem good, my motor has been great since. I can try and confirm if that you like cause I did look around a lot! Most will still want your old motor so be careful selling if you want to fix it. May also need new clutch if you have not done that yet.

I hear stories of people down shifting too much and not servicing there S2000s Crazy! it revs to 9000K people, look after your baby. I recommend:
Looking at your radiator overflow for black sluge (oil getting into you cooling)
When getting serviced ask for them to check for error codes (computer will tell you of misfires ect)
Oil level and change it often
Keep a eye on the temp (you should not go over 3 lights)

Good luck! I am looking for some drive shafts :-(

[S2000kid]

Thanks for the reply Troy, Im currently looking at an engine from Sydney at a Toda workshop. They are asking for around 4.5k. Do you think its worth changing the engine? or should I just pass on the car?

Did Hondwreck give you a warrenty?

I just recently changed the clutch to an exedy heavy duty. for $1500

[JAP-S2K]

Y::.;1530572']hey id be interested in your block if you wanna sell it when u get your new engine.

I've got a bottom end, missing only a few minor bits. Ex-Honda warranty. However "track use" only, as the original numbers got restamped onto new block.

[JAP-S2K]

I seriously would doubt an overrev will blow a head gasket, massive engine failure yes! The one part that usually gets overseen is a thermostat. A $20 part that will destroy your motor through being overheated. A thermostat can either get stuck shut or open. When stuck shut, it would only take a few minutes to overheat it, by then it too late. Best to change it every year IMO. A good idea to change the thermo switch too, S2k's are starting to get on a bit and i'm sure we'll hear of many more failures like this.

[troys2000]

No warranty sorry (most wont) I got my guys to check it 1st and they used my old injectors because there were perfect (use 98Ron and octane booster alot). Try and get a engine with low Kms (got mine with approx 50K). I would fix the car but depends on overall cost ect and you may find it hard to sell a car with a stuffed engine. Mine cost so much because they did spend lots of time looking for the problem 1st. Try all the Jap imports for a engine or smash repair

[aznsiko]

We're talking two different problems here.

A mechanical overrev will cause bent valves and probably catastrophic engine failure.

It will not cause overheating.

Overheating is caused by a failure of the cooling system. If the headgasket goes ignition gas gets into the water jacket and cooks the coolant. Driving like this too long can cause the head to warp and the engine to seize. This is the only situation where you would need to replace/rebuild your engine.

I recently picked up a head for $200.

100% correct.. dont know why these guys are saying over revving will over heat the engine and warp heads... :confused:

[troys2000]

Just to clear my details did not overrev my car.
Mine was overheating due to a blow headgasket, it did not seize but did warp the head too much to repair and I also had damage to the bores. Was cheaper to replace the engine. I have heard stories form the importers ect that most people overrev the engine and have to replace. I also asked what other s2000 parts are in high demand it was clutch and drive shafts.

[F20C]

so when you said "dont down gear passed too many gears".. as an example do you mean driving at 100km/h and then deciding to down gear into second? what if your revs are at roughly 4k in 6th and you drop down to 3rd and your revs are at around 5k?

[AusS2000]

Of course that is ok. As long as your gear change and speed doesn't result in a mechanical overrev you're fine.

But there is no point in changing down to a gear that results in you revving over 8000 because you will have so little powerband before having to change up.

[AusS2000]

Just to clear my details did not overrev my car.
Mine was overheating due to a blow headgasket, it did not seize but did warp the head too much to repair and I also had damage to the bores. Was cheaper to replace the engine. I have heard stories form the importers ect that most people overrev the engine and have to replace. I also asked what other s2000 parts are in high demand it was clutch and drive shafts.

Not sure how overheating damaged the bores unless you kept driving whilst overheating. If you try to keep driving and eventually the engine stops, that's a seize.

[JAP-S2K]

Not sure how overheating damaged the bores unless you kept driving whilst overheating. If you try to keep driving and eventually the engine stops, that's a seize.

Possibly detonation.

[F20C]

detonation sounds scary lol :(

[JAP-S2K]

i'm sure a blown head gasket would be caused by a overheating issue, after all they are a metal gasket yeah?

[AusS2000]

Possibly detonation.

Good point. But you'd still have to be silly enough to keep driving with steam coming out of your bonnet for this to happen.


i'm sure a blown head gasket would be caused by a overheating issue, after all they are a metal gasket yeah?

Not such a good point.

Yes our headgaskets are metal. They used to make headgaskets out of compressed fibre matte with metal rings around the cylinders. The new kind are much more durable.

But over heating is usually a result of a blown head gasket, not the cause of it.

[AusS2000]

detonation sounds scary lol :(

Actually it sounds like marbles rattling in a tin. ;)

You know when you see a granny in her Daihatsu Charade try to move off in second gear and you hear that rattly sound. That's detonation. It's when the fuel/air mix explodes suddenly in the cylinder rather than burning progressively (ok, so this 'progress' only takes a couple of milliseconds but still...).

[JAP-S2K]

Good point. But you'd still have to be silly enough to keep driving with steam coming out of your bonnet for this to happen.



Not such a good point.

Yes our headgaskets are metal. They used to make headgaskets out of compressed fibre matte with metal rings around the cylinders. The new kind are much more durable.

But over heating is usually a result of a blown head gasket, not the cause of it.

Interesting point!

I have seen a faulty thermostat destroy an SR20DET, no blown head gasket there. Just a overheating problem. Which in turn caused detonation. Which caused a cracked piston. :thumbdwn:

[F20C]

i get a rattling sound when i launch at like 1100 rpm lol.. it drops to under 1k.. different thing but same sound maybe?

[AusS2000]

Nope, that is detonation. Try launching a little higher in the rev range. ;)

BTW, that sort of 'pinging' is not advisable but not really harmful either. It's pinging under load and revs that does the damage.

[F20C]

ahh i see lol. will do.

[F20C]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6FFKA6piJU&feature=related

maybe that could of happend to his engine if he down shifted way too far?

[JAP-S2K]

Yeah this is easily capable if you have NO idea of what speeds you should down change at. Also this car in the clip is a 2.2l, so sort of irrelevant, without getting techinal.