emanage startup issue on reds

[MikeLary]

okay the topic may not be very descriptive but basically ive just upgraded to emanage and something slightly weird is happening in the sence that, if i leave the car on reds too long (engine off) - as in 5 minutes or so - then i goto turn the car on it doesnt turn on as if something is holding it back from starting , same sound as imobiliser ??

anyway what i have to do is jump the ecu error code wires and turn car off for a minutre or two then turn it on again and shes on

this happens only if i keep car in reds for 5 mins , then try turn it on, if i just turn car on it works....

any suggestions? i know this is weird so im not expecting it easily solved...

[Benson]

Sounds like the ECU. SAve yourself the hassle and get a hondata or a power FC

[MikeLary]

thanx for advertising dood but id rather fix this.

[TODA AU]

Is it cranking over & not starting or not even cranking?

[Lukezen27]

okay the topic may not be very descriptive but basically ive just upgraded to emanage and something slightly weird is happening in the sence that, if i leave the car on reds too long (engine off) - as in 5 minutes or so - then i goto turn the car on it doesnt turn on as if something is holding it back from starting , same sound as imobiliser ??

anyway what i have to do is jump the ecu error code wires and turn car off for a minutre or two then turn it on again and shes on

this happens only if i keep car in reds for 5 mins , then try turn it on, if i just turn car on it works....

any suggestions? i know this is weird so im not expecting it easily solved...

What error codes are you getting if any?

slow blinks = 10
fast blinks = 1

pulse long and short?
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/install/install_help/error_codes/index.html

[teaseR]

for some reason i cant do ecu check with my emanage.
nothing happens

[Lukezen27]

for some reason i cant do ecu check with my emanage.
nothing happens

Coze you now have a piggy back controlling the stock ECU maybe..

what do you need to do a check anyway?

Whats the problem?

[teaseR]

nothing... i use to run a check now and then just to see whether any sensor has played up

[Lukezen27]

nothing... i use to run a check now and then just to see whether any sensor has played up

Oh I see

Not sure then sorry mate

[MikeLary]

it cranks over like the car is about to start but it wont, as if the imobiliser is holding the car back from starting (just without the alarm noises ringing) this doesnt happen all the time, only if i have the car in reds for a bit then try start the car... which is weird...

no error codes.

[Lukezen27]

it cranks over like the car is about to start but it wont, as if the imobiliser is holding the car back from starting (just without the alarm noises ringing) this doesnt happen all the time, only if i have the car in reds for a bit then try start the car... which is weird...

no error codes.

Did the problem only just start or was it doing it from first install?

[MikeLary]

from first install.... i didnt have this problem with vafc... so im assuming emanage is doing something funny, i bet i wired something wrong, but then why would the car work good once its started :/

is there anything to note when wiring these babies up?

[Lukezen27]

from first install.... i didnt have this problem with vafc... so im assuming emanage is doing something funny, i bet i wired something wrong, but then why would the car work good once its started :/

is there anything to note when wiring these babies up?

Google that shit there's heaps of wires DYI's out there

Have you set all the jumpers and internal dials to suite your car?

Are you using main harness and main harness + ignition harness?

[MikeLary]

D16Y4 engine:

Jumper settings

JP1 -> 2-3
JP2 -> 2-3
JP3 -> 2-3
JP4 -> open
JP5 -> open
JP6 -> 1-2

2) injector wires

Emanage / ECU

INJ1 \
| PIN 1 (which has injectors 1 & 4)
INJ4 /

INJ2\
| PIN2 (which has injectors 2 & 3)
INJ3/

3) ive cut the ignition wire from the ecu and tapped it into two of the ignition wires on the emanage, im not using the ignition return from the civic ecu for anything
The strange thing is this is a D16Y4 engine with no vtec yet i need JP3 in the vtec setting or else it complains about the vtec signal being incorrect :/

[Lukezen27]

Jumper settings

JP1 -> 2-3
JP2 -> 2-3
JP3 -> 2-3
JP4 -> open
JP5 -> open
JP6 -> 1-2

2) injector wires

Emanage / ECU

INJ1 \
| PIN 1 (which has injectors 1 & 4)
INJ4 /

INJ2\
| PIN2 (which has injectors 2 & 3)
INJ3/

3) ignition harness is just using 2 wires tapped into the IG wire on the ecu, im assuming the IG return from the ecu is not necessary for this
The strange thing is this is a D16Y4 engine with no vtec yet i need JP3 in the vtec setting or else it complains about the vtec signal being incorrect :/

It dose sound like your wiring is wrong somewhere..

Mixed up with the VTec wire.. if you don't have VTec then the wires should not be connected from the e-mange at all

[MikeLary]

ahh maybe i need to pull that wire out , sh*t ill do that now (its not connected to ecu but prolly is still sitting on emanage)
brb im running down the street in a singlet and my half finished vb in my hand :/

[Lukezen27]

ahh maybe i need to pull that wire out , sh*t ill do that now (its not connected to ecu but prolly is still sitting on emanage)
brb im running down the street in a singlet and my half finished vb in my hand :/
I mean it can be connected to the e-mange but not plugged into anything at the other end lol

[MikeLary]

lol fair enough then theres no point removing it then :P

its not connected to anything on the other end... but i might be safe and go dc it from emanage anyway

[Lukezen27]

lol fair enough then theres no point removing it then :P

its not connected to anything on the other end... but i might be safe and go dc it from emanage anyway

There's two wires from memory the control VTec

[MikeLary]

yeah ill remove them both but the weird thing is why is this silly thing looking for a vtec signal :/ what

[Lukezen27]

yeah ill remove them both but the weird thing is why is this silly thing looking for a vtec signal :/ what

Do the opposite of this I guess?
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/289/emngjumpers9hy.png

Oh and Jumper 1 & 2 are incorrectly set on the above pic if your using the ignition harness

[MikeLary]

yeah thats pretty much what ive done except that jp3 on my car has to be 2-3 which is a vtec setting and if i have it 1-2 it says cant get vtec signal :/

[Lukezen27]

yeah thats pretty much what ive done except that jp3 on my car has to be 2-3 which is a vtec setting and if i have it 1-2 it says cant get vtec signal :/

Are wires 2,1 & 9 on the main harness plugged in?

[MikeLary]

ill go pull them out of emanage now, btw while im there ill check the dial settings which ones are you using ive got 2-8-A

[Lukezen27]

ill go pull them out of emanage now, btw while im there ill check the dial settings which ones are you using?

I don't have a clue as mine were pre-set for my motor

I guess I can take a pic and upload from my phone :)

[MikeLary]

yeah or u could just note it down from the front of the emanage by removing the front face plate

im reading alot of forums saying to do 4-8-C :/

are you vtec?

[Lukezen27]

yeah or u could just note it down from the front of the emanage by removing the front face plate

im reading alot of forums saying to do 4-8-C :/

are you vtec?

Nope mines a EG4 kit and its 2-8-B :o

Yes VTec but I've got problems getting to work right through E-mange and right now we've bypassed it and the stock ECU is controlling it

[MikeLary]

ahh ok have u tried 4-8-C or 4-8-E its said to solve alot of vtec engagement issues

[Lukezen27]

ahh ok have u tried 4-8-C or 4-8-E its said to solve alot of vtec engagement issues

No but next time I go I'll give it a shot :)

Got a link to this info?

[MikeLary]

theres heaps on it type this in google

"e-manage civic 4-8-c"

[MikeLary]

i just dont remember which specific articles to point out :)

[Lukezen27]

theres heaps on it type this in google

"e-manage civic 4-8-c"

I get errors on all those setting

Going by the GReedy web site

Rotary 1. Number of Cylinders
Rotary 2. Air Type Selector
Rotary 3. Air Type Selector



So mines set to 2 Cylinders WTF?

[MikeLary]

what error are you getting? what are you exact jumper settings ill compare it to mine and mates

[Lukezen27]

what error are you getting? what are you exact jumper settings ill compare it to mine and mates

Same as the VTec pic

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/289/emngjumpers9hy.png

But
Jumpers 1 is 2-3
Jumpers 2 is 2-3

[MikeLary]

what errors are you getting, seriously you should try my dial settings 2-8-A and if that dont work (dont do this unless 2-8-A doesnt work) then set jumper 4 to open

[Lukezen27]

what errors are you getting, seriously you should try my dial settings 2-8-A and if that dont work (dont do this unless 2-8-A doesnt work) then set jumper 4 to open

Everything works perfectly without errors with 2-8-B but I just can't get VTec to work

Changing to yours won't help me I don't think

[MikeLary]

ah okay i think it may help only because emanage have admitted that jumper 4 open is VTEC not NON VTEC, which is a typo, give it a go mate

I have jumper 4 set to 1-2 as i have non vtec

[Lukezen27]

ah okay i think it may help only because emanage have admitted that jumper 4 open is VTEC not NON VTEC, which is a typo, give it a go mate

I have jumper 4 set to 1-2 as i have non vtec

Oh snap

Done

I'll go for drive and see if my VTec light kicks in :thumbsup:

[Lukezen27]

ah okay i think it may help only because emanage have admitted that jumper 4 open is VTEC not NON VTEC, which is a typo, give it a go mate

I have jumper 4 set to 1-2 as i have non vtec

didn't work but give me an engine check light

where did you read this?

[MikeLary]

i think this was the post i read this plus i know this jumper thing is true because when i have it the other way it asks for vtec signal...

http://www.emanageforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1112&page=2&highlight=vtec+jumper

[Lukezen27]

i think this was the post i read this plus i know this jumper thing is true because when i have it the other way it asks for vtec signal...

http://www.emanageforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1112&page=2&highlight=vtec+jumper
Well I get a check light if I change it

[MikeLary]

whats the error code?

[Lukezen27]

whats the error code?

No error code when i change to open on jumper 4 just an motor check light

wounder if you have set enable VTec via the software after setng jumper 4?

[MikeLary]

yeah i know motor light comes on, but when u jump the engine check jumper ( i dont know the proper term for it ) to see engine error codes what do u get?

[Lukezen27]

yeah i know motor light comes on, but when u jump the engine check jumper ( i dont know the proper term for it ) to see engine error codes what do u get?

I don't have any way of checking the the engine error is..

How did you?

[MikeLary]

theres a few posts here on how to check engine error codes, i can try dig em up for u but using search function will bring them up, if u want u can bring ur beast past my place this weekend ill have a quick look, i wont fix anything lol but i may be able to share info with u

[Lukezen27]

theres a few posts here on how to check engine error codes, i can try dig em up for u but using search function will bring them up, if u want u can bring ur beast past my place this weekend ill have a quick look, i wont fix anything lol but i may be able to share info with u

Yeah man
PM me your number and will check em out

[Lukezen27]

VTec is working with jumper 4 switched round :thumbsup:

But I get this motor check light witch worries me..

I'll have to look for that DYI engine check codse post tonight :)


Code 21 VTS - VTEC Spool Solenoid

http://b16a2.kicks-ass.net/diy/pgmfi...fi-code-21.gif (http://b16a2.kicks-ass.net/diy/pgmfi/mil/pgmfi-code-21.gif)

[MikeLary]

try opening a new thread with that query, we've gone 4 pages into this post no one will reply...

im sure people here know more about vtecs then i do (as i dont have one) i just knew how to help u with emanage :)

[Lukezen27]

The jumper setting on the GReddy web site are correct
http://www.greddy.com/img/PHP/products/pdf/1286.pdf

Its the rotary switch's that need setting up... Page 13
http://www.greddy.com/img/PHP/products/pdf/1246.pdf

For all Civics 92-00 they should be set to 2-8-A