1999 accord v6 gearbox problem

[martin]

hey my friends got a honda accord 1999 model v6, and apparantly the gearbox on these things are poorly built and tend to slip after a long period of use?

is there anything you could do to stop the problem for now or would anyone know how much it would roughly cost to recondition/replace?

thanks

[JAC]

martin,

I am just starting to post in this forum , but I heard about the V6 trans problem for 1999 - 2000 accord. unfortunately this is common in v6 transmission, and had been discussed somewhere in this forum.
I drive 99 accord V6 and at some stage I could feel some thumping when braking to slow speed and accelerate again (not sure if this is the same symptoms to your friend ) and immediately seviced the car. Honda sevice could not do much about that and they advised that the transmission on V6 had been having dramas for 6th gen accord and this could end by replacing the whole gearbox and could cost up to $4k that is way too much.
One of my colleague relative had the same issues in the past and one of their family mechanics (non honda) diagnosed their car (after honda mechanics told the same thing about V6 transmission dramas) and found out the engine mount was lose. They tighted this engine this and appears to fix the problems at least until now. The mechanics puzzled that the mounting for V6 engine (havier engine) was the same as the normal 2.3lt and that could be the cause of the problem again after few years - fingers crossed
It appears that Honda made safer choice by replacing transmission that include tighted the mounting in the process as the thumping could damage the auto tranmission as well
I followed their 2 cents:
- warm up the car between 30 second to 1 minutes in the morning (better when the rev down to below 2000 before the temperature gauge increase)
- drive slowly while keeping the engine to warm temp (we are driving old car now so we need to be more gentle :) )
- avoid shifting to "N" when stopping at traffic light for short period
- avoid changing RON on your petrol too often on this model (could upset the ECU and car could had some thumping/hickups) --> if the thump did not come from transmission.

I had been doing this after the last service and the problem appears to dissapeared on mine in 2-3 weeks and hopefully it's for good
Hope this helps

[ig2001accord]

I drive a 2000 accord V6. The auto trani has been a bit clunky on the 1-2 change since about 60,000km. Honda can only suggest changing the transmission fluid - which fixes it until you get out of the workshop. Now at 265,000km and no worse, get the occasional thump when accelerating from slow speed as it tries to work out which gear it should be in!

Recently started servicing the car myself but am having trouble removing the ATF drain and the fill plugs. Which way should the plugs turn to remove, CW or ACW - I had assumed ACW but wasn't sure enough to push it too hard, just in case?

[Rattlehead]

Has anyone (with a 6th Gen) got their auto rebuilt? How much did it cost.

I got quoted $4400 from Courtney & Patterson which is a reco'd replacement?
Just wondering if anyone has taken theirs to an auto place.

They think the clutch packs are worn (causing the odd thud and shudder) but won't know until they take it out.
Thing is though, it shifts smooth ... like 1-2-3-4, only thuds somethings when down gearing. Most noticeable at roundabouts or give way sections when slowing down to 20ks and then accelerating.

Also jolts at 70ks when you're in 4th and you floor it. Revs creep to 5500rpm and then quickly drops to 4500rpm and then picks up at 5500rpm causing the jolting sensation.

My friends car '00 V6 doesn't have these symptoms ... so I guess my auto is screwed :(

[ig2001accord]

Haven't had to rebuild yet but I'm sure I'll get there, so would also be interested in the cost. As above my V6 '00 has had similar symptoms (particularly the low speed stuff, but only on the upshift) from about 60,000k's, but not much worse at 267,000k's. It certainly behaves worse if you give it a caning but I drive fairly conservatively most of the time.

One thing that improves it a bit is sorting out the sticky throttle cable, which seems to be a problem on this model. I haven't yet got a permanent fix, but lubricating the cable drum parts at the engine end seems to help.

[SiReal]

You should all refer to this thread to see that this is a widespread problem.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63785


This is good FAQ as well

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9664

[Rattlehead]

Thanks SiReal - the v6performance site has a lot of good info.

But I haven't found what the going rate is from auto shops in Australia for a rebuild. Just know what the dealer is going to charge :(

[adnohdrocca]

I have a 99 V6 with 267000k's and at last service my mechanic said that the auto is definatley on its way out. I have to accellerate like a Grandma or the car makes a loud bang going from 1st to 2nd and as soon as its in 2nd it goes straigt into 3rd but with no problems from 3rd to 4th. It doesnt like stop start changing in traffic and jerks and shudders.
Spoke to Honda tec at Thomastown Vic quoted me $2500 for a recon auto. Have now moved to Qld and if anyone could recommend a good Honda specialist, it would be greatly appreciated.

[6Tech]

hey hows it goin ive got a Honda accord 1998 automatic v6 . i can feel the transmission takes long to engage in to gear. was just wonderin when the time comes to replace the transmission is it possible to put in another type of transmission for e.g Integra, prelude etc.

[jbjb]

Just bought AV6 this month and found the gearbox shifting is so slow, then open bonnet and check the fluid...it is crap...coz the oil color is yellow not red (ATF-Z1), after spending AU$52 to get ATF-Z1 from Honda dealer and changed it straight away, i found it is much smoother and good response. Thus, i thought most AV6 might not use right auto fluid. Honda car's tranny is so unique, and only ATF-Z1 could have best performance, even equivalent DEXON-III could not do the job right!

[Euro_CU2]

I had the same problem with the 98 V6 and it kept slipping from 1st to 2nd.... then after a while it wouldn't change from 2nd to 3rd..... Took it to Honda and they said they needed to dismantle the auto trans and to see what was wrong.... Next thing i ended up getting a new Auto tranny for it.... ahhhhh!

[bennjamin]

i changed my gfs dads v6 fluid recently with OEM , didnt fix the issue so he traded it in.

That fixed the issue.


btw you are looking at around 3k for a gearbox rebuild , that will come back afterthe same amount of ks anyway.

[trex101]

Just bought AV6 this month and found the gearbox shifting is so slow, then open bonnet and check the fluid...it is crap...coz the oil color is yellow not red (ATF-Z1), after spending AU$52 to get ATF-Z1 from Honda dealer and changed it straight away, i found it is much smoother and good response. Thus, i thought most AV6 might not use right auto fluid. Honda car's tranny is so unique, and only ATF-Z1 could have best performance, even equivalent DEXON-III could not do the job right!

Not really, most after market ATF are multi-vehicle(example Redline D4 & nulon) now. I heard good results with multi-vehicle ATF, i personally use RL High Temp atf on my Ford which call for TQ95 and it's fantastic, less slippage, more torque and better transmission response.

[ravi]

HI
im facing issues with my Honda Accord 1999 V6 transmission, went to the mechanic they advised AU$3000 expense. Can anyone please advise a cheaper alternative, i want to get rid of the car or a cheaper mechanic in Sydney.

[SiReal]

go to wreckers and source another v6 transmission with low k's and put that in.

otherwise sell the car as-is for cheap.

[ravi]

thanks, do you know of any wrecker which will have second hand transmission or is there any other solution so i can get it working temporarily..

[RiceMeister]

Honda World in Clayton mate. good guys over there, should have a gearbox solution for you.

I had a faulty throttle body in my 2000 v6 and was quoted $1800 plus labour new from eastern honda...absoloute joke!

so i headed to honda world and they ripped one out of a 99 V6 which had only travelled 60,000 km and installed it for me all for $165. runs like new and haven't had a problem since.

they should be able to fix you up with a new gearbox, their factory is full of halfcut accords and alike so shouldn't be too difficult mate.

[ravi]

Thanks mate but i want someone in Sydney, Honda dealer quoted me $3000 whihc is indeed a joke. thanks for your guidance anyways i will look for someone cheaper here in Sydney..

ANYONE KNOWS MECHANICS IN SYDNEY WHO WOULD FIX ACCORD GEAR BOX

[grifty]

our 1998 accord had trans problems aswell, it wouldnt shift into first untill the car warmed up abit, and it also slipped between 1st and 2nd, so we got sick of it and sold the car for $6k with 212000kms, i wouldnt reccomend fixing it, just sell the car and save yourself the headace of a new trans

[ravi]

our 1998 accord had trans problems aswell, it wouldnt shift into first untill the car warmed up abit, and it also slipped between 1st and 2nd, so we got sick of it and sold the car for $6k with 212000kms, i wouldnt reccomend fixing it, just sell the car and save yourself the headace of a new trans

Im facing exactly same issues, I tried selling it but it needs to be in working condition and still after that im getting only 4000 with 160000kms on it...now atleast i need to get in working condition first only then can i sell it...

[grifty]

Im facing exactly same issues, I tried selling it but it needs to be in working condition and still after that im getting only 4000 with 160000kms on it...now atleast i need to get in working condition first only then can i sell it...

what needs to be in working condition, the car or the tranny?

[ravi]

what needs to be in working condition, the car or the tranny?

tranny, once it works will the car work...

[grifty]

i was able 10 sell our 1998 accord with the tranny problem which was quiet obvious when you drove it, odd thing is that the buyer never said anything about the tranny the whole time, just happy that i dont have it anymore because problems started to come up.

[intk20A]

The problem with the auto trans is 2nd clutch pack clearance being out of spec.

A simple test to see if it needs rebuilding is to start your car and push the selector all the way down to first then with foot on brake select up to second gear if the auto needs rebuilding the car will jolt forward.

Obviously the harder the car jolts the worse condition your auto is in......

[Euro_CU2]

4 Years ago i paid $7K for a new transmission from HA. A reconditioned one from melbourne was about $3600... Car is still running fine and hope it stays that way..