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redinteg
20-02-2008, 06:41 PM
Hey,
Just had Toda spec B's installed and an Emanage and i know i have to set the antistall thing up for it to idle properly but i cant get it to work.
I have support tool and the cable and so far have configured the throttle sensor part and had a fiddle with the antistall graph but cant get it working.
Once the car is fully warmed up (where idle was about 800 before cam install) it barely idles at about 200 rpm and then dies.
Does anyone know roughly what settings i should have it on just so i can get it running well enough to drive it to be tuned?

destrukshn
20-02-2008, 06:42 PM
just tow it to get tuned, most cars are have different tunes with different mods, and conditions.
don't risk doing anything stupid, and blowing your motor up.

TODA AU
20-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Hey,
Just had Toda spec B's installed and an Emanage and i know i have to set the antistall thing up for it to idle properly but i cant get it to work.
I have support tool and the cable and so far have configured the throttle sensor part and had a fiddle with the antistall graph but cant get it working.
Once the car is fully warmed up (where idle was about 800 before cam install) it barely idles at about 200 rpm and then dies.
Does anyone know roughly what settings i should have it on just so i can get it running well enough to drive it to be tuned?

Ok, assuming the cams are installed correctly & set at the correct angle...
Low cam 105deg LCA or 1.0mm lift @ TDC both intake & exhaust.
What you'll need to do is as follows:

Wind idle bleed bypass screw in throttle out to increase the volume of air passing the throttle to increase the minimum rpm.
(200rpm is way too low)
Once you've got the revs to wobble around 1000rpm give or take.
Aim for an idle mixture of 14.4~14.7:1 (A/F)
Once you've got that sorted,
Bring the idle speed down using the idle bleed bypass screw to 900rpm.
It should be relativly stable here once ignition timing is @ 16deg (Red mark on the crank pulley)
Rule of thumb... Usually with Spec B's, if the cam timing is right, the dissy ends up pretty much in the middle when the ignition timing is right.
Now, if the idle is still hunting (that is cycling on the E-manage support tool map when veiwed in real time with map trace on)
And you've done your best to stablise it with the IBB screw, you will need to set the anti stall voltage clamp to suit.
It'll all work pretty easily once you've got the timing & the mixtures sorted.
With the symptoms you've got, you won't get t to work wthout bringing the minimum rpm up.
The anti stall function prevents the ECU responding to rapid changes in manifold pressure, but it can't bring the idle as it has no effect on idle speed.
Hope that helps.
Cheers

Adrian

redinteg
23-02-2008, 03:00 PM
Problem solved, Thanks TODA
Turns out it was running way to rich