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EGBOY
22-02-2008, 09:12 AM
as titles asks, who has k-pro here, wanna get some feedback on these ecu's,
thinking of using it in my ep3

Benson
22-02-2008, 09:22 AM
One of the best ECU for a K-series engine. Easy to tune...
Im sure it will be an good upgrade for you!

qstoria
22-02-2008, 09:31 AM
i tried K100 with my K20A and the difference was huge. that was untuned as well.. i use a mugen N1 ecu and its better than the K100 IMO.

But a tuned K-pro and im pretty sure you have one of the best upgrades for a K-series motor you can buy

Nepolian
24-02-2008, 07:44 PM
i tried K100 with my K20A and the difference was huge. that was untuned as well.. i use a mugen N1 ecu and its better than the K100 IMO.
But a tuned K-pro and im pretty sure you have one of the best upgrades for a K-series motor you can buy

WTF :confused: What are you talking about.? Who the hell buys a K100/Pro and runs it untuned, unless it has been flashed with some kind of base program.

The mugen N1 is specifically tuned to mugen products. K100/Pro units are designed to be used to tune and optimise what modification you have! Obviously untuned would be next to useless! IMO

Cost wise, Im sure that a K100 tuned costs less than the price of a N1 and the K100/PRO are completely tunable!

K100 and PRO are the same product, except that the PRO has an external USB port and software for user to use and muckaround with. Not recommended if you dont know what you are doing! The 100 is only tunable by dealer.

Correct me if I am wrong!

Oh yes, to the original question, theres usually a good fat increase in power in the mid range bringing the K20 to life.:)

qstoria
24-02-2008, 10:28 PM
i didnt buy it. I ran it untuned for my exact setup but it had been tuned for one quite similar. should have specified that but does that make sense now?

as for the price. cost of ecu plus tuning and there isnt much in it between the two. i went with the mugen as i was offered it at a very reasonable price.

riceball
25-02-2008, 11:56 AM
I ran kpro with my K setup. Must be the easiet ecu I've played around with. Even if you don't get a tuner to fine tune it asap then you have base maps to run which are included in the program. I ran a base map for a K20 with intake headers and exhaust and it was pretty awesome. You notice the difference straight away and even a bigger difference when you get it tuned properly.

EG5
25-02-2008, 01:06 PM
I got Kpro on all our K swap cars.
the results speaks for it self.



From hondata.com

Main features:

Fits inside the ECU
Made in USA
USB connection for speed and compatibility
KManager (http://hondata.com./kmanager.html) Windows based software for parameter & table editing, calibration uploading and datalogging.
Many built in calibrations for common engine combinations
Built in datalogging to a laptop
On board datalogging memory (2 MB memory, 10-110 minutes datalogging)
Adjustment for different sized injectors, with overall fuel trim.
Configurable for any MAP sensor (to 5 Bar and above)
TPS based table lookup for ITBs
Engine protection from over boost and lean protection.
Expanded fuel and ignition tables, both in rpm and load, to 60 lbs boost and 11,000 rpm (these are not the upper limits)
Launch control with anti-lag
Three multi purpose outputs for nitrous control or similar
Supports lambda tracing from the stock wideband o2
PWM output for boost control (http://hondata.com./s300boostcontrol.html) KManager (http://hondata.com./kmanager.html) editing software features:

High and low speed 16 x 20 ignition and fuel tables for correct VTEC tuning
Injector size fuel trim
Fuel trim for starting, throttle tip in and individual cylinder trim
Rev limiter with fuel cut
Launch control with anti-lag
Adjustable VTEC window with load and throttle control
Adjustable idle speed
MAP sensor type and calibration
Adjustable boost cut with hot and cold settings
Closed loop control
Air temperature compensation
Fuel and ignition correction based on gear
Closed loop
Three general purpose outputs for nitrous control, quad boost control or similar
On board datalogging trigger conditions

EK4R
05-03-2008, 02:32 PM
can any one tell me the price difference between the k100 and kpro? not talking bout tune. just the product. just want to see how much more $$ for the USB capability

jimmeh
05-03-2008, 06:15 PM
$400 difference in price between k100 and k-pro, same features minus the fact the k-pro has USB the k100 doesn’t.

Prices are here

http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=3072#post3072

if your on a tight budget get the k100

Nepolian
05-03-2008, 06:32 PM
It all comes down to what you want to do with your car!

If you are modding it constantly and changing things the KPRO would be the go! and ofcourse, mucking around with the tune yourself!

Otherwise if you want a ECU to tune with what you have and dont care about playing with the ECU, then the K100 is all you need.

IMO, if you are paying someone to tune your car on the dyno, you should be mucking around with the tune yourself. Unless you race or track your car and are using the datalogging features.

Sum it up.......if you wanna set and forget, save your money and get K100.

If you want to playing around with the tune get the KPRO! :)

EG5
05-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Kpro enabled to do you data logging + ability to check what problems you got with your engine sensors

riceball
05-03-2008, 08:14 PM
Kpro enabled to do you data logging + ability to check what problems you got with your engine sensors

Thats right. In the long run, KPRO might actually save you time and money if you ever run into any problems. It's alot more convenient to have if you want to do some minor or major changes urself instead of calling in a pro which costs $$$

EK4R
05-03-2008, 10:08 PM
yeah true. but i know nothing about tuning. dont want to wreck anything in the process. i wouldnt mind the data loggin and maybe adjusting the launch control from time to time though. but duno if i can justify 400 for those features atm

EG5
05-03-2008, 10:11 PM
yeah true. but i know nothing about tuning. dont want to wreck anything in the process. i wouldnt mind the data loggin and maybe adjusting the launch control from time to time though. but duno if i can justify 400 for those features atm

Kpro worth every single cents. Been using it since 2004.

jimmeh
06-03-2008, 06:33 AM
K100 has launch Control, it has all the features of a kpro mins datalogging.

fish
06-03-2008, 07:09 AM
just wondering if a K100 put onto a Stock AUDM DC5R will make much difference at all?

Nepolian
06-03-2008, 07:14 AM
just wondering if a K100 put onto a Stock AUDM DC5R will make much difference at all?

http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/index.php

Theres dyno charts for many mod done on Aus DC5's.

fish
06-03-2008, 07:20 AM
Found the info i was looking for Nepolian
Cheers :)

EK4R
06-03-2008, 03:52 PM
K100 has launch Control, it has all the features of a kpro mins datalogging.

yeah but i wont be able to adjust it . that was my point

all good. i've already decided on which 2 get

hooyn
14-03-2008, 12:56 AM
wondering which one would i be looking at if i were to get it for my euro.
all i have is an intake, looking to buy some new headers in future and wont be looking at any engine mods for a while after that.

i was talking with a friend and he said since i have a k series.. and since its a 2.4L, tuning it will give me a noticeable difference and give me a less 'laggy' feel.

go for a kpro ecu upgrade ?

EK4R
14-03-2008, 02:50 AM
i would recommend save it for everything then tune it. get your header first. install that then Kpro or K100 it.

i would go K100 , cos by the sound of things you wont be tuning it much yourself and leaving it stock

Benson
14-03-2008, 06:37 AM
Get the k-pro so you can hook up your own laptop and check the settings of the car. Its good to see what the car is doing...

timofytit
02-04-2008, 06:09 PM
as titles asks, who has k-pro here, wanna get some feedback on these ecu's,
thinking of using it in my ep3


K-Pro is great, big improvement. So many variables, so many options. I'm very happy with mine, with a little help to get started, then some practice, and tune yourself is possible. It does have all the videos online to teach you how to tune the car yourself also.