Importing FD2 and JDM cars

[FD2_MugenRR]

Hi guys, a newbie here from across the ditch. I will be moving over to Melbourne soon in a few months. I was wondering if you guys at Aus are allowed to import FD2 Civic Type-R or CL7 Accord Euro-R (both JDM spec cars)?

I heard one will need to apply for import licence, but is it easy? I heard you guys have EP3 Civic Type-R though.

Cheers :wave:

[qstoria]

pretty sure NZ have far superior import rules than to here because of the nature of the automotive industry within NZ. i would think that you would have more luck at actually looking at importing it into NZ before you move then bring it here with you.

[Philip Lee]

you will need to own the car overseas for 12 months before you can bring the car into Australia by personal import.

own means registered in your name while you are in the same country.

[DreadAngel]

As above, the FD2 and the CL7 isn't on the SEVS listing and no RAWS workshop has (or cbf) applying for it. Only path atm is personal import.

NZ is tightening down slowly on their importing rules as well so not so easy anymore.

[FD2_MugenRR]

Thanks guys, just that I won't be here for another 12+ months. I found that NZers and temporary residents (those who hold NZ passports) aren't entitled to personal import into Australia, unless I am going to take up Aussie citizenship or permanent residency.

By the way, do you think the FD2 Type-R will be allowed to entered into the SEVS list sometime later? What about the CL7?

Is it difficult for joe public like myself to apply for the FD2 to be included in the SEVS list? Cheers :wave:

[FD2_MugenRR]

A teaser... FD2 Civic Type-R in NZ for a whopping $42k

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Honda/auction-124636468.htm?p=1

Have not heard of them tightening up the import rules in NZ though.

[aaronng]

Thanks guys, just that I won't be here for another 12+ months. I found that NZers and temporary residents (those who hold NZ passports) aren't entitled to personal import into Australia, unless I am going to take up Aussie citizenship or permanent residency.

By the way, do you think the FD2 Type-R will be allowed to entered into the SEVS list sometime later? What about the CL7?

Is it difficult for joe public like myself to apply for the FD2 to be included in the SEVS list? Cheers :wave:

No, the CL7 and FD2R will probably never enter SEVS.

[DreadAngel]

As said above by Aaronng FD2_MugenRR, its unlikely that they'll be approved, the CL7 is almost identical to the CL9 offered locally except with different motor and other minor things, not "special" enough to pass the criterias.

As for the FD2R, FN2R already in Australia offering Civic Type-R to the public. If you want to personally apply for SEVS, you'll need to get past at least 2 of the 4 criterias, then have several components tested by Universities and other Authorities/Instutitions because Australia thinks Japan's standard aren't good enough (Funny enough Europe's are) after all that then crash test... Even after all that, they may reject it like they did with a few car, Aristo they rejected a fair few times before accepting =|

[aaronng]

FD2R won't pass because we have the Civic VTi and Sport. The only way to get an FD2R is through personal import or Honda Australia brings it in.

[GReY_CVC]

you will need to own the car overseas for 12 months before you can bring the car into Australia by personal import.

own means registered in your name while you are in the same country.

Hey does anyone have links to website with legal details regarding this... say for personal import from uk to sydney... what are the conditions?

Do the owner needs to be a citizen in the other country or can we be on a working holiday visa etc... I will be going to uk for more than a year on working holiday....

cheers :thumbsup:

[chicken8]

will it be LHD or RHD civic from the UK? if its LHD then i wish you luck.

[aaronng]

will it be LHD or RHD civic from the UK? if its LHD then i wish you luck.

UK is RHD. Rest of Europe is LHD.

[Philip Lee]

Hey does anyone have links to website with legal details regarding this... say for personal import from uk to sydney... what are the conditions?



google is your friend:

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/importing_vehicles/general/index.aspx



Do the owner needs to be a citizen in the other country or can we be on a working holiday visa etc... I will be going to uk for more than a year on working holiday....

you don't need to be citizen of the overseas country but u need to be a citizen/PR of Australia.

[6-SpeedManual]

FD2R won't pass because we have the Civic VTi and Sport. The only way to get an FD2R is through personal import or Honda Australia brings it in.

doesn't the fd2r have a different siloutte and chassis compared to the aussie fds?

[DreadAngel]

It maybe different but to SEVS, its the same...

They look similar even though in reality they're differences...

[Philip Lee]

well same chassis code, very similar exterior etc. won't pass SEVS.

[denot]

so why cant we just bring it here unregistered and register it as Civic Sports? :p

[Philip Lee]

so why cant we just bring it here unregistered and register it as Civic Sports? :p

because you need to get an import approval before you can bring a (whole) car in or risk fine + having your car sent back (according to the law/rule).

without an approval, you can't clear customs.

[denot]

hohoho bring it here as a thousands pieces and built it back alltogether :p hohoho

[SlobberGoat]

... and if you smuggle one in without the proper paper trail, and customs find out.
The car will be crushed.

[Slash]

What is the difference between the sports and the type r?

I know there is a cosmetic difference, but chassis is the same.. type r has a strenghtened chasis and the obvious performance differences. Is there anything else?

[DreadAngel]

Safe to say, the entire thing is different, probably down to the thickness of the paint...

[Philip Lee]

i'd say at least 40% different. maybe even more.

[denot]

K20Z and K20A is a BIG different isnt it?

[Slash]

From all I have read..
Bonet, front fender, and front bar are different..

engine being different, but mountings are the same? (assumption since its a K20 engine)

[dmx]

if u want list, it will be 2 pages !!! ..lol
ie. fd2r have under door light,LED 3rd brake lamp with white cover, thicker arb, 3 pcs under carriage cover (+3optional), brake cooling slate,dark color gear base and handbrake, even steering wheel trim is different too.
and too many to list (small + big parts) ..lol

[Kidnkorner]

What if you import the vehicle and the drive train seperate? People in the states do this often.

[Philip Lee]

won't work. u need to cut the chassis in half at the very least.

[Slash]

To bring in a complete chassis it would only be for race use, which requires a CAMS licence and results I think.

[Kidnkorner]

Well that sucks! Here in the states there are several methods for importation of vehicles.

There is one where a vehicle can be imported for race and off road purposes. Many companies do this to promote their business' at show and race events. After 12 months the car must be destroyed or returned to country of origin.

There is another where the car can be imported and legally driven for up to 12 months as a visiting owner vehicle. Luckily the US is bordered by Canada and Mexico and a briefe trip across and return can renew this 12 month period. I know if several people who have freinds and relatives of Mexico where some hot European cars are sold, such as the Renault Clio V6, and the Seat Leon Cupra R. They have Mexican plates but are driven here in the states. After 12 months the car goes back for a short time then bounces over the boarder for a frsh 12 months.

One could probably import the FD2R for the 1st method I mentioned above if it's permissable, strip the car and report the parts as stolen. Not very ethical but may very well work.

[6-SpeedManual]

Well that sucks! Here in the states there are several methods for importation of vehicles.

There is one where a vehicle can be imported for race and off road purposes. Many companies do this to promote their business' at show and race events. After 12 months the car must be destroyed or returned to country of origin.

There is another where the car can be imported and legally driven for up to 12 months as a visiting owner vehicle. Luckily the US is bordered by Canada and Mexico and a briefe trip across and return can renew this 12 month period. I know if several people who have freinds and relatives of Mexico where some hot European cars are sold, such as the Renault Clio V6, and the Seat Leon Cupra R. They have Mexican plates but are driven here in the states. After 12 months the car goes back for a short time then bounces over the boarder for a frsh 12 months.

One could probably import the FD2R for the 1st method I mentioned above if it's permissable, strip the car and report the parts as stolen. Not very ethical but may very well work.

sounds like you guys are having fun :p

[filip5]

missing out on so many awesome cars here :(

[DreadAngel]

Get use to it, its Australia, more crap coming soon from the Authorites...

[Nairda]

Heres an analogy you probably havent heard in awhile....Difference between FD2's K20Z2 and the FD2R's K20A is like chocolate and shit. FD2Rs have currently the most powerful K20A at about 225 hp Kudos to initial D. The K20Z2 is truly weaksauce..if only they put in the Z1 i would be happy to have that and not bother with trying to import the FD2R

[ITRDC2]

well actually my fd's got a fd who got his s2000 written off, and then he imported a JDM s2000 whole car and did something to get that registered, but not quite sure how it works......but sounds like illegal thou, hope no cops watching this ,touch wood haha

[butter]

I'd say to OP, bring in your CD6. I think you'd be the one of the very rare few in Australia. Haven't yet to see one, so i'd even say the only one in Australia? For sure in Melbourne at least.

[amuson]

how do they get JDM S15s inported if it's so similar to the one sold here?
r all the ones u see at dealers imported after they stopped selling it here?

[damoqupak]

I heard that its impossible to import a FD2. I tried my best but like Philip said you'll need to own it overseas for about a year before you can bring it over.. the FD2 looks awesome... such a shame we can't get it here..

[Brian FD2R]

You could always buy my champ white FD2R

[damoqupak]

hah dude how did you import one?

[Philip Lee]

how do they get JDM S15s inported if it's so similar to the one sold here?
r all the ones u see at dealers imported after they stopped selling it here?

there was a certain year S15 which could be import. the principle was similar to R35 GTR but slightly less harsh.


hah dude how did you import one?

brian had his car in UK over 12 months and brought it in with him when he moved over here.

[damoqupak]

there was a certain year S15 which could be import. the principle was similar to R35 GTR but slightly less harsh.



brian had his car in UK over 12 months and brought it in with him when he moved over here.

Nice... I'd love to drive one and feel the difference between the EP and Fd2..

[Brian FD2R]

two totally differant cars to drive as ive owned 2 EP3s before buying the FD2R,the EP3 was a great car but things have moved on, a EP3 wouldnt stand a chance of keeping with the FD2R on track or back road.

[damoqupak]

two totally differant cars to drive as ive owned 2 EP3s before buying the FD2R,the EP3 was a great car but things have moved on, a EP3 wouldn't stand a chance of keeping with the FD2R on track or back road.

yeah I thought so.. I've seen clips of the FD2R racing s2000, integra and even skylines and it beat all of them on the track while the FD2R was all stock and the others had mods.. farkin awesome..

[acurabot]

as some have mentioned above, you cannot. Reason being that even though its a type R and different seats etc, the chassis they consider to be similar and thus allowing import of a FD2 would put australian honda companies at risk of bankruptcy. To successfully bring it over, you have to prove you owned the car for a year, lived there for that time and with address where the car was parked. Also, i think there's a limit as to how much cars you can import over during a certain time period. Or, i believe in sydney or melbourne, you can rebuild it from chassis up and it can be deemed legal. Not sure on that so dont quote me on it. Maybe someone who lives locally there can give a heads up.

[Brian FD2R]

yeah I thought so.. I've seen clips of the FD2R racing s2000, integra and even skylines and it beat all of them on the track while the FD2R was all stock and the others had mods.. farkin awesome..

Yeah i took the FD to a sprintday back in the UK organised by my local car club and beat the EP3 and FN2 by some margin,



I am only going to post up the fastest lap time that everyone did but if anyone wants to know all of their lap times or anything, pm me. :)

1. 1:05.67 - Rog EVO VII 550 BHP
2. 1:08.82 - Jamie EXIGE II
3. 1:10.09 - Kenny EXIGE II
4. 1:11.45 - Shocker EVO VI 400 BHP
5. 1:11.68 - Brian (FD2)
6. 1:11.97 - Duncan SCOOBIE 480 BHP
7. 1:12.61 - Hambo
8. 1:12.80 - Keevster JDM DC2
9. 1:13.72 - Rossi
10. 1:14.00 - Tommy ATR
11. 1:14.30 - JJ
12. 1:14.37 - G-Man
13. 1:14.54 - Brian (bri_jnr) EP3R
14. 1:15.36 - Lazy DonkeyR
15. 1:15.78 - Corbie DC5R
16. 1:15.98 - Lorne ST (XR5)
17. 1:16.09 - Jules FN2
18. 1:16.68 - Craig FN2
19. 1:16.70 - Cat EP3
20. 1:16.75 - Lee DC5R
21. 1:16.87 - Donald (in a Passat)
22. 1:16.91 - Chris EP3
23. 1:17.81 - Marty FN2R
24. 1:18.16 - Martin (Fife Flyer) FN2R
25. 1:18.24 - Fi FN2
26. 1:19.70 - VXJon
27. 1:28.52 - Woody[/quote]
Some good times put in by everyone today :thumbup:
Pleasantly suprised to see where the FD2 ended up in the final standings

[Philip Lee]

either you are a very good driver, or FD2R is very fast (or both lol).

btw the EP3s are UK spec i'd assume?

[Brian FD2R]

Yes Philip they are Uk spec and most are modded to some degree, We need to organise a trackday for all us Honda boys someday

[Philip Lee]

i'm planning to go the QR sprints on Oct 30. it will be my first track day and QR is probably an easier track for me noob.

come along and have some fun?!

[Brian FD2R]

Yeah that sounds good mate where exactly is QR raceway is it out by ipswich

[Philip Lee]

Yes Ipswich.

http://www.qldraceways.com.au/events/Saturday_Arvo_Sprints/sat_arvo_index.html