Suspension: Bump Stops, Tyres, Cambers, Rubbing

[AutoNoob]

hey yall,
i wasted $1200+600+200 = $2000 for an install on my EK1 featuring: Koni Yellow (maxxed stiffed settings), 1.5inch King Lows, removed guards.

NOW, when i drive alone turning at about 20kmh on roundabouts - it fu#$%#!!!! rubs on the body somewhere...should i take it back to the mechanic and have him bash in this part of the body fibreglass so it doesnt touch.

WHEN i have 4 people in the car, turning corners at 20kmh almost a full lock RUBBBBBBBBBBBS like heck on the same spot.

ALSO, my mechanic says lowered cars will have more tyre wear, well duh cause of the angle stuff. Are cambers really THAT necessary and what exactly do i need in terms of jacking and stands and stuff to do it myself. (no more money to get mechanic to do it).

ALSO, my mechanic didnt install BUMP STOPS cause the koni yellows didnt come with any and my old ones were shattereed - he recons the yellows are made to work without bump stops - are my shocks gonna get fu@((!!! up faster without the stops?

Any help? i dont have tools lol, just a damn screw driver set. - supercheap/repco for jacks and stuff?

[bennjamin]

$2k all up ? IF you paid me or another DIY guy on here you would of saved about....$900 lol.

Anyway if the car is rubbing it is more than likely the tyres rubbing the inner part of the wheel space. Usually on the body of the car or the rear bumper corner.

Lowered cars do have more tyre wear , but not much. Camber kits are needed when you excessively lower a car (say 2 inches or more).

Do not attempt to fix this issue yourself as i think you might stuff something up. Pay someone to fix it for you / check it out.

Also , if those white wheels are yours then they probably are too wide and hence the scrubbing. You can fix this by putting smaller wheels on.

[BiLL|z0r]

Re the bump stops. When lowering I've always used polyuethane (sp) bump stops as they are smaller and better quaility. Might wanna get a 2nd opinion before taking it back to get fixed under wty.
Your wheels may also be too wide or have an incompatible offset which only is a problem when lowered.
Usually rubbing when turning is the tyre rubbing on the front plastic splash guards inside the wheel arch. It is common to have them removed or I once cut a hole in mine (not this car) to allow the tyre not to rub in that spot.
I also think you got riped. You could have got coilovers installed for that price and with that you ride height adjustment, perfect when things rub unexpectedly.

[90LAN]

king springs are too soft thats why

[AutoNoob]

LOL shit,
>________<

so $2000 down the effing drain haha, what the cheapest repair option for this? sell the wheels get smaller width rims?
LIKE absolute cheapest!!!!
>__________________< RAGH!!!!!! curses!!!

[sml-089]

did u pay $1200 for koni yellows?

[AutoNoob]

uh huh.

[teh_mechanic]

your problem is the springs are too soft.i cant remember if you said it rubs when its just you,but if it does then your springs are too low....and if it rubs ridiculously when people are in,then your springs are also too soft,the weight of them pushes down on the soft springs and makes more scrubbing.

get some stiffer,higher springs.smaller rims would help,getting your gaurds rolled can also help,but id start at the springs

[SiReal]

dude u didnt put 2K down the drain. konis are one of the most reputable brands in the world of shocks...i have had konis for the past year almost and have had no issues whatsoever... i also made sure my alloys were decent sized and the correct offset before i actually went out and got tyres.

ur only issue now is getting some bumpstops put on, and getting smaller wheels with higher offset (so it sits in more).

then u'll be laughing.

ur just frustrated atm thats all :)

[55EXX]

where exactly does it rub? that will help us determine what to be done.

in my ek with 18's it scrubbed like crazy till i rolled the guards and cut away the splash guard. it still scrubbed but no where near as much then i got front and rear big sway bars and it never scrubbed cos i had no body roll. it never scubbed after that. i had 18x7.5 with +45 offset.

sorry to say you got jipped $2K but the koni's are great!

bump stop will help stop the shock bottoming out and i would look into getting some. oem would be fine. its only a last resort to stop the shock bottoming out.

[AutoNoob]

ok how about a picture :)
http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/a.jpg
That's my car

and here are pictures of problems
http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/b.jpg
and again..where the rubs are u think i can just take a hammer and dent it inwards?
http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/c.jpg

yeah i love the konis, i think i'll get some stiffer springs (anyone sellin any good ones). I'll contact benjamin or someone so i can save some bucks. The rims are 17x7. So i guess 16x6.5 is better? lol or even more downgrade to 15x6?

[bennjamin]

your rims are too wide. Get smaller wheels dude.

pm me in future for suspension work lol.

[AutoNoob]

LOL, yeah hmm. how small is enough? i dont wanna downgrade back to 14 inch tho rofl....

[bennjamin]

its your offset/width that is the issue. Try some 15 inch wheels if you can borrow/use and see if that gets the same effect.

[AutoNoob]

hmm iC, well then i'll consult my mechi again ask him for 15 inch wheels to try on. you know anyone/places that sell some dirt cheap alloy 15 or 16 inch wheels.
I cant afford anything more atm lol, supercheap friggin 15 inch alloys with tyres, used maybe. At least those will give me a less rough ride. 17 inch low profile quite noisy on bumpier roads.

ONCE everything is sorted out i can really enjoy the car. ATM it is all "!@$@@!!!!! RAHHHHHHH RAGE"

[SiReal]

keep an eye out on the FS section - there are plenty of 15 and 16" wheels FS.

car has a nice ride height btw.

[AutoNoob]

um since im nooby lol, 15 inch wheels wont be low profile tyres and thus still have the same total diameter as 17 inch with low profiles right? hehe. i cant imagine 15 inch with low profiles haha, that wud be funny.

[bennjamin]

Slightly less overall circumference.

they will be larger profile ( 50 or 55) but they will be narrower , and better offset. So chances are they will not scrub.

[Nepolian]

What size are your tyres? Might fix the problem by putting smaller tyres on too?

[JohnL]

uh huh.

I paid $850 for my Koni yellows (for a CB7 Accord, the 'asking price' was $950). Not to worry, they're worth $1200 in handling, so if you look at it the right way (with a squint through rose coloured glasses) you didn't get ripped off!

If your mechanic doesn't think bump stops are necessary he's obviously a fool, find another mechanic.

[EKVTIR-T]

http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/b.jpg


Red King Lows?I thought they are yellow.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

did u pay $1200 for koni yellows?


uh huh.

Decent price for the best :thumbsup:

Id sell my first unborn child for a set of original koni's atm :o

As the above poster said if your mechanic thinks bumpstops arent necessary leave him....

Believe me the bump stops will make a huge difference...

[JohnL]

Believe me the bump stops will make a huge difference...

They'll stop the dampers being destroyed for starters.

[Sir_vtec]

if your after 15's get some oem 15". like they all said you wheels are the biggest problem.

btw have u still got the splash guards? you should cut the splash guard up and cover the empty part where the door hinges are visible, to stop dirt and rust man.

[teh_mechanic]

Believe me the bump stops will make a huge difference...

bumpstops dont make an actual difference,but yes you are an absolute fool not to use them,especially with expensive koni yellows.

the bumpstop stops the shock absorber from bottoming out when you go over huge bumps,so every time the shock would of bottomed out it smashes a little bit of the bumpstop away

[AutoNoob]

kool kool, i'll PM benjamin about the bump stops and find some 15 inch rims somewhere cheap. Absolute cheapest new is $650 from jax, so i'll be looking for some used ones maybe - $400 bucks ifs possible or less even, hmmm maybe not lol. how about these on the http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84115 thread.

[55EXX]

this is dodgy but you can add an extra bit of bump stop to the bump stop by cutting up another one and put it above your one to decrease a inch or so of wheel travel. it will make the ride rougher but will decrease wheel travel hopefully stopping it scrubbing. man you need some tools. easy to do yourself with guidance/instructions.

[BiLL|z0r]

Looking at the pics it looks as though getting higher, stiffer springs would help. Kings are crap and sag heaps so the problem will get worse. I remember having Kings on my Lancer and you could see the difference in just putting fuel in it. The Koni's are good.
If money is tight maybe just get higher springs for the front now and rear later.
Make sure you get the bump stops still though.

[ricki_kalsi]

dude u didnt put 2K down the drain. konis are one of the most reputable brands in the world of shocks...


ROFLcopter!!!!

Should have got some more decent coilovers for that price... something along the lines of BuddyClub N+ Dampers.

IMO sell your set up and buy some decent coilovers.

Also, get some smaller wheels.

[AutoNoob]

lol, my mechanic should have recommended coil overs instead of ripping me off for labour work.

This is how stuff was done:
1. lower car via springs - he didnt tell me my shocks were gone. $200 labour
2. i asked him for new shocks - he didnt put in bump stops $200 labour
3. Now i need bump stops/stiffer springs & smaller wheels

$400 in labour!!! ARGHHH

LOL, shit!!!!! >___<. Well ben is gonna do the bump stops for me, but still need smaller wheels.

[teh_mechanic]

lol, my mechanic should have recommended coil overs instead of ripping me off for labour work.

This is how stuff was done:
1. lower car via springs - he didnt tell me my shocks were gone. $200 labour
2. i asked him for new shocks - he didnt put in bump stops $200 labour
3. Now i need bump stops/stiffer springs & smaller wheels

$400 in labour!!! ARGHHH

LOL, shit!!!!! >___<. Well ben is gonna do the bump stops for me, but still need smaller wheels.

$200 to do new springs on a civic isnt too unreasonable.i do it for $100 backyard.its just that hes done it twice and you paid for it twice.unless he did the springs and shocks at the same time and charged you $400,thats dodgy,putting the new springs on new shocks takes as much effort as putting the new springs on old shocks so he shouldn't of doubled labour.
meh,its all hindsight now

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

bumpstops dont make an actual difference

Imho they do/will

Atm ive got screwed up bumpstops and the cars handling has gone down the public toilet to the sewer system :thumbdwn:

[teh_mechanic]

Imho they do/will

Atm ive got screwed up bumpstops and the cars handling has gone down the public toilet to the sewer system :thumbdwn:

your car must be quite low and you are very close and sitting on bumpstops,like sexxx's thread in suspension/handling.
the bumpstop is not supposed to hit or be in contact with the enclosed part of the shock,the bumpstop is there as a precautionary thing to stop the shock fully bottoming out.if it changes handling then you are hitting the bumpstop,something that should be avoided really

[55EXX]

or enjoyed as i am now experiencing. riding on bump stops severly limits your suspension travel and if you want a smooth ride should be avoided! if your car is lowered and are very close to the bumpstops and want more free suspension travel the bumps stops can be trimmed. i wouldn't sugest cutting any more than 2 of the little knobs off the smaller end but for this make sure that you have shortened stroke shocks and that the wheel has clearance in the arches/guard etc

auto noob you car doesn't look that low this is my old ek with 18's that just went under the guard.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436055_57_full.jpg
it never srcubbed thats what makes me think your wheels offset is definatley too big and there is little you can do besides changing the wheels to stop this. i had king springs kyb shocks and rolled guards and scrubbing wasn't bad big sways got rid of it totally.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

your car must be quite low and you are very close and sitting on bumpstops,like sexxx's thread in suspension/handling.
the bumpstop is not supposed to hit or be in contact with the enclosed part of the shock,the bumpstop is there as a precautionary thing to stop the shock fully bottoming out.if it changes handling then you are hitting the bumpstop,something that should be avoided really

Car isnt lowered yet....my shocks are just blown atm :( (hehehehe)

[55EXX]

Imho they do/will

Atm ive got screwed up bumpstops and the cars handling has gone down the public toilet to the sewer system :thumbdwn:

you don't make sense. you say here bump stops make a difference cos you have screwed up bumpstops your cars handling is worse. then now you say shocks are gone and you car isn't even lowered so you'd be no where near the bump stops in the first place. and i would rekon that your car would hadle like a boat with shocks gone and stock springs. bumps stops would be the last of your worries.

[V73C]

are u sure those are king springs ??? they look like skunk2 springs mang

[55EXX]

yeah i totally missed that. king springs are yellow. pedders are red too.

[krogoth]

Looking at the pics it looks as though getting higher, stiffer springs would help. Kings are crap and sag heaps so the problem will get worse. I remember having Kings on my Lancer and you could see the difference in just putting fuel in it. The Koni's are good.
If money is tight maybe just get higher springs for the front now and rear later.
Make sure you get the bump stops still though.

u had kings on ur lancer? and they sagged heaps?

wat shocks wer u running with ur kings?

and wat kings wer they? lows or superlows?

its funny, because with the right shock, kings are excellent springs, so i cant wait to here wat ur lancer was setup was like

and they are not too soft, ull be hard pressed finding normal springs that are stiffer

only coilovers springs are much stiffer

and for the thread starter

I SERIOUSLY dought all this scrubbing has anything to do with ur springs or shocks, its most likely ur wheels offset

width shouldnt be a problem at all, 17x7 is fine with the RIGHT OFFSET

[AutoNoob]

hmm yeah i always thought kings were yellow, lol, they better not be pedder reds ROFL...
I'll ask him next time...im in a bit of a WTF mood today. Doin boring work and OH-ing.

[ricki_kalsi]

AutoNoob... WTF mang?!? You paid all this money and didn't even know what you were buying?

If I were you i'd sell the current setup - if you want to call it a setup - and buy something decent.

[55EXX]

you could do that but you can get great handling out of your current setup by adding swaybars. soft springs and big swaybars FTW in my experience and there is alot of evidence that backs this. hard springs is only for the smoothest fast tracks with great tyres or semi slicks. not street.

as said earlier your wheel offset is wrong. do you have anypics of how deep it sits in the guard

[krogoth]

AutoNoob... WTF mang?!? You paid all this money and didn't even know what you were buying?

If I were you i'd sell the current setup - if you want to call it a setup - and buy something decent.

?????????????????????????????????????????????????

koni are rubbish?

kings are rubbish?

wer did u get that from?

and if his current setup is so shit, then wtf u recomend?

[SiReal]

he drives a DC2-R, so anything with the words Tein, or Mugen, or Spoon, or JDM obviously....

Keep your current setup - you have a great setup. Contrary to what everyone has been saying, 99&#37; of them would probably have never driven on Konis or Pedders ever, and hence their opinons are nothing. As ZeForce likes to call it, e-mechanic.

[krogoth]

Omg Bro

Kings Make Ma Commo Sag Coz I Put Super Super Super Lows On Stock Shox

[AutoNoob]

AutoNoob... WTF mang?!? You paid all this money and didn't even know what you were buying?

If I were you i'd sell the current setup - if you want to call it a setup - and buy something decent.

um my name says 'auto..."NOOB"' u do realise.

the wheels are this
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=448

it is scrubbing against the body work not the guards, i ripped the guards out AS can bee seen in the photo.

i read KONI is tops, im gonna keep my set up, Benjamins gonna install me some bump stops - hope to learn from him how to self install other stuff like swaybars etc.

my tyres are bald, 4 new 17 inch tyres ~ $500. 4 alloy 15 inch wheels are like $650 from jax, i'll get that instead and sell my white 17's which are too big >___<, tho i really like em.

I recon i'll go with the 15x6.5 or 16x6.5 inch small rims, whichevers scrubbin less - i dont like low profile that much anymore. Too much friggin road noise on rough roads.

im at uni, class starts in 30 mins, im sitting in UTS mega lab, anyone else? lol!!!

[krogoth]

Find the offset of ur current wheels plz

[SiReal]

sticking to something like 15x6.5 at +40 ish should be alright. thats what most of the guys on the forums are running.

[EKVTIR-T]

he drives a DC2-R, so anything with the words Tein, or Mugen, or Spoon, or JDM obviously....

Haha so true....:D

[dahon]

dood, its just your wheels. ride height looks perfect, just get those bump stops done and smaller wheels. 17x7 seems a little wide on a lowered setup. try oem wheels, 15". There are heaps in the FS thread, some come with tyres for about 400-500ish man. looks clean aswell.
good luck with the stuff man =)
what im wondering is if i end up lowering my car by say an inch-1.5inch, if my 205/50R15 tyres will scrub? i doubt it aye?

[AutoNoob]

OEM as in Original Honda Wheels?

[dahon]

yeah, i dont know its up to you i guess, but i reckon OEM wheels look hawt, or buddy clubs, but theyre a little pricey.
good thing bout 15" rims are, the tyres wont cost you a bundle and you can get decent rubber for it.
atm ive got integra blades on my civic, looks alright. hehehe well i think so anyway. ill hit u up with a pm/pic later.. time to sleep.. hehehe

[AutoNoob]

sleep? pfft lol, use coffee

[55EXX]

yeah i agree that race look white 15's or 16's would look great on your car. i am one who is not such a fan on oem wheels but each to there own.

[AutoNoob]

the rims are 17 inch starcorp concept 9, +40 offset
the springs are Pedders!
now i think i got ripped off...cause i remember i just said 'get my car lowered, with the cheapest springs LOL. so yeah
pedders it is. 550 bucks for springs installed, car wheels aligned.

1200 bucks for konis installed

so u guys think 15x6.5 wheels and higher springs maybe??

[krogoth]

wtf

40 offset?

werd u get that from?

and find out the width of the wheel, is it 17x7? or wat?

[AutoNoob]

well actually i cudnt find the friggin wheels statistics on the wheel itsself, so i asked tempetyres and they set +40.

yeah 17x7

[BiLL|z0r]

Just 15" rims should make all the difference. Try that first. 15x6.5 or 15x6, either way. 6" wide will be lighter.

[AutoNoob]

um sorry for being nooby lol, but lighter doesnt mean its gonna scrape is it

[bodaas]

prolly your spring too soft (but looks like it doestnt)
to avoid wear, i usually re-wheel balance after lowering my car
you car doesnt look lower yet, i reckon you need bump stop for that height
prolly the bump stop

[dahon]

nah lighter means less rolling weight = better for fuel? i assume..
bloody pedders! lolz
nah i think your springs should be alright, just your wheels are a little wide i guess? what tyre size u running with those 7s?

[bodaas]

lol pedders, here is my story
when my first time came to australia in 1993, i still in year 12 High School, my dad bought me a car, and i was thinking want to lower my car (it was mitsubishi lancer)
i went around2 look at yellow pages, visit some of mechanic shop that can do lowering, actually NONE of them want to do this job, some of them didnt even know what the fak i was talking about

So that time i ended up stop at pedders shop, they said that they can do it. i was so happy, and i wait while they were doing it
i saw that they chopped my spring without taking the wheel off with grinder LOL

the worse is that they didnt chop the spring evenly, prolly like 1cm drop on the left, 2 cm drop on the right, different height at the back too LOL
and what piss me off is that when i looked at the car (it looked the same height as before but worse) and they said i should wait couple days and your car will lower soon.

faking pedders,so everytime i saw pedders i never even want to step my foot on their shop.

lucky, i got friend just lower their car very nicely and low at that time
so thats the only shop call "K-mac", i was so happy. up until now i still visit them they know what i always want, they make custom spring while you wait. King spring i guess better made, but kmac more experience with lowering, i still their customer since 1993. :thumbsup:

[AutoNoob]

lol thats dodgy hahah!!!
yeah the cars ok AS LONG as i dont have passengers and dont turn on roundabouts rofl.
tyres are 205/40/17 thats what it says on the tyre.

Ben is teaching me to put on bumpstops on sunday, should be good :), after that i can buy myself some quality ultra****ing stiff springs and some sway bars and fit em.

[dahon]

ahh kz
cos i got 205/50r15s on mine, fits perfect, i dont know whatll happen if i lower mine though... hrmmm
yeah get sways, they make a really nice handling diff, but you should already have a front one anyway, but make sure if you get a thicker rear sway to buy asr reinforcement brace aswell for your subframe.

[krogoth]

um sorry for being nooby lol, but lighter doesnt mean its gonna scrape is it

please

can u check exactly wat kind of springs u have on now

and find out exactly how much u have lowered

because with 40offset on 17x7 with kings lows on koni yellows with the correct tyre profile, shood not scrub

im guessing, u have something equivalent to kings super lows, i think u have lowered at least 2.5 to 3 inches

if it was just lows, 1.5inches, then i HIGHLY dought ther will be scrubbing

[AutoNoob]

PEDDERS, i called my mechanic today
Lowered to legal limit of 1.5 inches, theres about 1 finger space gap wen i park the car and no one is in it.
Im not sure if they did something dodgy and lowered it more than that. How can i possibly tell? All i can think of is that the pedders are sh!t LOL....

[krogoth]

i think im just gona assume with evry1 else that its ur bumpstops

too much shock travel

u shoodnt need stiffer springs

just try putting in bumpstops, then tell us how it feels

[AutoNoob]

yeah, hope so hope so!!! if it is the case, im gonna blast my mechanic, who happens to be a 'FINALIST' in some mechanics competition - wat a rip!!! lol

[bennjamin]

just an update

van came over for a chat and DIY fun today. Gosh it was a muck up of a job

suspension was installed , without bumpstops.
Missing washers
2 main washers in the shock were swapped , leading to premature shock failure
the front suspension forks were installed back to front (?!?)
Spring perch seating washer used to hold the fork inplace

These guys for such a big "finalist" are shocking.

Oh and he is getting smaller wheels :)

[SiReal]

holy moly thats pretty bad...

soemtimes it pays to do it yourself with several guides off the net or with mates.

[dahon]

nice.
want an update when he gets 15"s. lolz so i kno whats a cheap way to lower my car... hehehe

[AutoNoob]

yes, looking on FS for 15 inch rims!!! ^__^

then after all thats done id say: buy used coilovers off someone get used 15 inch rims OEM honda, get everything second hand - cheaper, get front/rear sways. Get Ben to install it - he's chuck norris, he does everything.

AND dont trust any dodgy "**** ******* *****" mechanics.
The Asterisks * are for your own imagination.

after the 15 inch rims, im gonna have a chat with my so called 'trusty' mechanic hehe.

[BiLL|z0r]

Good to see you got to the bottom of it.
Did Ben put bump stops in for the time being?

I'd make a big song and dance to the mechanics about this and try to get your install money back (or at least part of it).

[AutoNoob]

yeah he put in bump stops, flupping a lot better!!! :), turn hard ass tight corners no rub, BUT full lock round abouts still scrubs - so 15 inch rims wen i can find some.

[dudeling7]

man thats so bad, thats why its good to be able to do stuff on your own (if you have the time and tools) so you have that piece of mind!

[string]

If bump stops ever make your car handle better, or change how it handles normally, then you need to get serious about the safety of your suspension. Bump stops are a safety feature for your damper to avoid internal bottoming out. If you're hitting them regularly then raise your car up, it's not safe, and creates serious non linearity in suspension stiffness.

[AutoNoob]

um, did u read the whole thread??!!!
obviously it was better since there were no bump stops before that!!!

[string]

I'm saying that if it DID make it better, then you were originally operating in a dangerous zone of the suspension. Now that it is better, you are obviously hitting the bump stops, which isn't a good thing!!! Get stiffer springs, more shocks travel, or raise the car up. Bump stops aren't part of the suspension formula of handling, they save your shock towers and shocks.

[AutoNoob]

hmm well since the suspension was installed incorrectly in the first place without bump stops! hmm. It is only lowered 1.5 inches tho...i'll call my mechanic now!!! maybe he gave me lower than what i asked for. >__<.

[bennjamin]

not just lack of bump stops , there was major load washers that were swapped around , which would of failed within a short amount of time. This would of no doubt affected handling too ( and characteristics of bound/rebound)

[krogoth]

ben, how much lower than stock do u think vans car is?

it doesnt look like a 1.5 inch drop to me

looks more

IMO, if evrything was setup properly, and the springs wer kings, lows, working with yellows on +40 offset 17x7, then ther shoodnt be any scrubbing

van, wats ur tyre profile? or have u mentioned that already?

i think it could be rong tyre profile or springs are too low

wheel width and offset isnt an issue IMO for a 1.5inch drop with kings lows and koni yellows set on a high enough stiffness

[dahon]

didnt he get pedders springs?
yeah from the pics i thought it was little lower than what i would expect from just a 1.5inch drop.

[FAT VTI]

Mate i got rubbing on the inner wells of my car due to my 18in rims and my lowered height.
Its not a big deal, only at full lock.
Honestly mate I reckon your worrying a little too much, its scrubbing the inside wells, If its only on full lock just do more 3point turns, I wouldnt sell my rims because of it.

Unless you are constantly carrying alot of ppl, and having to fullllock alot, its not going to cause too many MAJOR problems.

[55EXX]

riding on your bumpstops is not a entirely bad thing. the bump stop is made of a soft foam and by it resting on this foam it adds its rate to the springs rate there fore increasing the overall rate of your suspension. i'm riding on my bump stops have been for a few months now. its fine.

it may shorten your suspension travel which increases ride harshness and can lead to your car getting air born over ripple strips etc. it is an effective way of decreasing excessive wheel travel like in your situation.

[AutoNoob]

hey guys,
recent improvements, dilemas, cry at wallet size!!!

1. bought som hectic rims off Ben as can be seen below
http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/a13.jpg
http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/a14.jpg
2. New tyres as can see above.
3. Positive Outcome:

smooth ride
better on bloody pot holes/rough roads - parra/victoria

4. Dilemas:

still some rub on roundabouts BUT alot less - full lock at 25-30kmh.
poor wallet

5. Total spendage 08 on suspension: 2768

KONI yellow+install cost=$1200
Pedder Red+install cost=$550
Wheels=$400
Kenda tyres+nitrogen fill+alignment=$520
Ben's awesome install of bump stops=$100

6. Things to get rid of:
http://users.tpg.com.au/mcaoxuan/a2.jpg

So happy meter rating at 95% id say ^___^.

[dahon]

looking nice man!
so whats the plans next aye? hahaha

[AutoNoob]

WHAT TO DO NEXT

Money Spending List for 2008

1. get my 'Type ROFL' sticker for $10
2. Get some bright HID bulbs...what size in terms of H1...H9 is the EK1 anyway. $35
3. Get a front strut $100 cheap
4. Spray those black rims gunmetal maybe $50 for paints
5. paint my bonnet black - it's a ricer after all LOL - stuff carbon fibre - that stuff is brittle. Paint probably expensive for so much of it. $100
6. im looking for a cheap Brace thing to go with rear sway bar. ASR Brace is 300 bucks, thats massive dollars for a block of metal LOL. But yeah thats next!!! This should set me back maybe $500 and probably another $150 for LCA's
7. Front Sways - looks too complicated, i'll get Ben to do that, maybe another $500
8. Short Shifter ~ $500 - someone to install
9. Heavy Duty Clutch ~ $500 - someone to install


Total 2008 planned costs: 2445
This should make my absolute 08 spendage equal to $5213

07 spendage:
exhaust $600

06 spendage:
tempetyres wheels $1200
autobarn audio setup $1400

05 spendage:
EK1 20000kms cxi $12500

By the end of this year i would have spend $8413+12500 = $21000
Of the 8413 dollars, i think probably 3000 bucks is labour rip off from those shops.

*out of all this, performance wise this little type Rofl stays stock. Someone can recommend me some engine mods WHICH DOES NOT involve engine conversion - im poor. ^___^

[dahon]

make sure u get projectors with those HIDs man....
everyone hates people who blinds oncoming traffic with their lights.
goodluck with the plans dood, hehehe
ive had enough of spending on my car, ill finish up my current plans and save for another carrrrr!

[AutoNoob]

what have u done to ur car sofar?

[dahon]

projector headlights
about to get fog lights, coming in a wk
front lips on its way, buying one off a member here..
cars already got front sway anyway so ill leave that.
ek4 rear sway will be up soon; as soon as i find one endlink! gah
(i was thinking asr + ctr rear sway, but it costs quite a bit and that can go on my later car hehehe)
chassis brace/strut tower bar
15" integra blades
mesh front grille

kinda holding off the lowering thing, ill jus do that to my next car.. hehehe

[55EXX]

get the whiteline rear 22mm adjustable bar with reinforcement brace.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436055_114_full.jpg
worth every dollar. match it up with the 24mm whiteline front and you have a gun combo!

[AutoNoob]

how much would that exact setup in the picture cost?
im pretty sure a whiteline brace it cheaper than ASR one.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

How much were the wheels from ben?

(read 400 somewhere involving wheels but just wanted to confirm :p)

Btw car is looking nice man just needs a little more dumpage :)

[AutoNoob]

its low enough :)
that;s wat was causing problems in the first place. besides i took the photo close up on the side its higher on (slopey driveway)
1.5 inches but i think its actually like 2.5 inches.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

its low enough :)
that;s wat was causing problems in the first place. besides i took the photo close up on the side its higher on (slopey driveway)
1.5 inches but i think its actually like 2.5 inches.

Ahh lol

Well go do a photoshoot soon :p

[55EXX]

its alot cheaper than the asr combo and can be had for 320 delivered to you by courier in NSW

[FAT VTI]

please don't paint your bonnet. Give the Honda some respect.

[bennjamin]

cars looking good Van.

[AutoNoob]

driving hectic corners today :) love it all!!! BIG roundabouts only no little annoying ones hhaha.
im gonna invest in that recommended whiteline sway/brace kit. Whiteline dont sell em direct anymore, anyone know where i can get them? repco or autobahn possibly?

Also, why not paint black bonnet. Type Rice after mate hehe.

[BiLL|z0r]

Good going d00d.

The rear antisway kit should really help handling. IMHO I'd then sell your old big wheels before doing anything else and just enjoy the car. It will also let everything settle in so if you have any issues you'll know what mod is likely to be causing it. If you mod too much in a short period and things go wrong you spend way too much time/money hunting it down.

[genkimashi]

sorr to jack ur thread... but where can i get bump stop ?? n gd luck with the car... nice combo suspension u got there... get a rear sway bar will help a lot with the handling...