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ef-civic
24-03-2008, 11:43 AM
hey i was just wondering if anyone has any pics of the quad carby setup ??

LaZaZaL89
25-03-2008, 07:56 AM
like this?

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7749/bydonedp7.jpg

I think thats a d16a or a ZC browntop

cristian
25-03-2008, 11:56 AM
plenty of links on this stick aswell if u want...
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23877

minhkore
25-03-2008, 12:03 PM
what is ample torque?

trism
25-03-2008, 12:27 PM
ample: of great quantity

torque: well we all know what torque is

FastFwd
25-03-2008, 12:33 PM
wtf? is that thing custom or they come that way?

cristian
25-03-2008, 01:42 PM
wtf? is that thing custom or they come that way?

custom...ish...

from what i understand there's a few companies in the US that makes bolt on packages for quad carb conversions...

kawasaki carbies are quite popular with the UK chaps...

FastFwd
26-03-2008, 07:10 AM
ahh cool...Nice

Is that someone you know, or your car?

or just a pic off the net?

SeverAMV
26-03-2008, 02:26 PM
a pair of dual sidedraught webers is normally the setup that youll be able to find the most support for conversion-wise. its not quite quad carburetor, but it is quad barrel and will be easier to tune than 4 kawasaki or yamaha carbs. you could also do quad keihin carbs if you want.

www.bisimoto.com can make manifolds for webers, or if you want something cheaper, head to http://www.manifolds.co.za/acces.htm for rowland manifold. i bought the manifold for my pair of dcoe40 skracing carburetors from rowland manifold, and its not too bad, could do with a bit of sanding, but the roughness helps with the atomisation of fuel.

but note that just getting quad carburetors on their own wont give you much difference unless the rest of your car can match it. head to www.onecamonly.com or www.fjdistributors.com for engine build kits. theyre fairly cheap and it will be worth it in the long run (a b-series beat down kinda worth it)

95civic
26-03-2008, 06:10 PM
^^^ Do you know where you can buy a full Carby set-up here in Australia?

SeverAMV
26-03-2008, 06:53 PM
for a weber setup, youll have to import. i happen to come upon my skracing carbs by luck. theyre a hybrid between the mikuni and weber designs, with slightly less tapered throats, so i thought they would be more expensive, but i found them on ebay for $350AU. check out gempartsaustralia or gemparts on ebay, he's a queenslander who has a wide supply of carburetor products and know-how as well.

but webers are expensive, and you have to look around a fair bit for quad carbs. a pair of dual sidedraught webers could set you back anywhere up to $1500 if theyre a matched pair. but if you look around like what i did a month ago, you can stumble upon a set of quad yamaha r1 carburetors with linkages and manifold for $150US. snipe around on ebay, you'd be suprised what you can find.

SeverAMV
26-03-2008, 11:01 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CARBURETORS-CARBS-yamaha-FZX-700-FZX700-FAZER-1986_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35597QQihZ019QQite mZ290215354769QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
theres a cheap setup. only good for response tho, not sure if its big enough for power gains. they look like 32/36. you'll want at least 38 inside diameter for any power gains with a d.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/YAMAHA-FJ1200-CARBS-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ110235480512QQihZ001QQcategoryZ 10490QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
these ones look pretty good.

95civic
26-03-2008, 11:10 PM
Where is the best place to find out wat carbs fit wat engine?? Im looking for carbs for my D15 and dont know where to start.

SeverAMV
26-03-2008, 11:14 PM
head to www.onecamonly.com, more american physics professors there that focus on d series motors, they can point you to a whole entire build if you want, plus theyre mostly americans, and americans know way more about carbs.

i think for a d15 (like ours), you shouldnt go any smaller than an internal diameter of 36mm if you want more power and response throughout your entire rev range. 40mm are good for streetable power and insane response, which is why i chose 40mm. but choose 45mm if you plan on going for balls out power down the track. remember if your carbs are too big, you can always choke it down, but if theyre small, you cant bore them up.

cristian
26-03-2008, 11:37 PM
SeverAMV...ur a sick c*nt bro...hehehe...i wish u were in nsw and give us a hand with our quad carb mod...

SeverAMV
26-03-2008, 11:47 PM
haha, i wish i was in nsw too, more tuners there know what theyre doing than in sa.

i think webers are the easiest to get into because pretty much any carby tuner will know how to work a weber. but for yamaha, i'd recommend finding a manual and trying it yourself, or getting a tuner to help out. apparently motorbike carbs are more finicky to tune initially, but they never max out (cos hey, theyre designed for 1200cc bikes at up to 13krpm) and they respond much much better. but it may be costly because you'll need either custom manifold, or bike manifold with adapter plates.

im still learning about mine. skracing died in its butt late 80s early 90s so i dont have much support for mine, but it helps that its a hybrid between weber and mikuni.

at the moment, im running in my freshly built motor with factory carbs. once everything's good, in go the new skracing carbs. im not expecting too much, but bisimoto, an american tuner specialising in d15b motors, he thinks i can get 170whp out of it easily (i'll be happy if i break that 100fwkw barrier). i kinda believe him, he's got a d15b motor with a similar setup that managed to run a pb of 9.510 seconds down the quarter in a honda insight.

cristian
26-03-2008, 11:54 PM
fark me dead...

aye mate, i heard u can use the zc sohc cams on the d15b...do u know of any other oem cams we can use...i know bisimoto has a few already built but i was hoping maybe something more accessible rather than constantly shipping from the US

SeverAMV
27-03-2008, 12:07 AM
not too sure about cams, apparently people like the cams from the d16a6.

im using a bisi stage 2 cam with kms complete titanium valvetrain atm, and with an untuned motor, power flies from 4.5k to 8k, even with factory keihin carbs, it was enough to keep up with a 4g93t fwd. im hoping with a bit of tuning, maybe a degree more advanced cam timing, more ignition timing, and leaning it out a bit, might get the powerband from 4k-8k. my limiting factor is my $17 ebay 4-2-1 extractors.

check out www.onecamonly.com for more info, guys there know much much more than me. im just learning from them. plus fjdistributors is a sponsor there, which means yay for cheap rebuild kits. like p29 nitride coated pistons with slim 3 layer metal head gasket plus water pump, entire engine gasket kit for $300 + $50 shipping (USD). kms titanium valvetrain is good for 10krpm, and will set you back $600 + shipping (pricey, but you dont want to cheapen out valvetrain). stage 2 cam was like 225 + 100 for cam core + 100 shipping. but bisimoto is really nice, and if you tell him what kinda setup you want and what you're building, he can do custom cams for same price as a regrind (to a certain extent). he can also give you a rough idea of how to tune the motor for best performance as well.

you could also choose the other route and get one of fjt's turbo rebuild kits, with their custom rods. i think he was one of the first to run turbo with vitara pistons, and he managed 240whp with a stocko block (aside from vitara pistons obviously).

SeverAMV
27-03-2008, 04:10 PM
here's a link to a page with a vid of bisi's quad carburetor honda insight doing a 9.52 pass, i think he's using an F22 engine in this model. his 1.5L in a crx clocked up a pb of 10.77, i wish i had that motor.