Built B16A vs B18C7(itr)

[EGJOE]

Hi guys,

I have a decision to make i got two choices either

B16A Built with

CTR pistons
Block brace
buddy club 0.5 head gasket
Type r intake manifold
Obx 68mm throttle
Toda A cams with adjustable cam gears
Crower Valve springs

Or

B18c7
Toda A Cams with adjustable cam gears
Standard Itr Valve springs

Both will be tuned with hondata and i think will both cost about the same, I have most the parts to build the b16a. Im after which one is going to take a beating better

Thanks people
EGJOE

[DLO01]

Like I said before. B18C7 always, and get rid of the block brace. :thumbsup::p

[kayot1k]

b18 cus its near standard.

b16 cus its cheap as chips.

[Benson]

Nothing beats the extra torque of the B18c7

[Q_ball]

B18c > B16a

[barefootbonzai]

Hi guys,

I have a decision to make i got two choices either

B16A Built with

CTR pistons
Block brace
buddy club 0.5 head gasket
Type r intake manifold
Obx 68mm throttle
Toda A cams with adjustable cam gears
Crower Valve springs

Or

B18c7
Toda A Cams with adjustable cam gears
Standard Itr Valve springs

Both will be tuned with hondata and i think will both cost about the same, I have most the parts to build the b16a. Im after which one is going to take a beating better

Thanks people
EGJOE

option 2 will be better. I use to have exactly that setup in my EK, it performed very well.

[Limbo]

comes down to how much cash you got and what you wanna do in the end.

End of the day a b18 will be better, but will also cost more

[90LAN]

i would go a k20 hahahahahhaah

[aaronng]

Like I said before. B18C7 always, and get rid of the block brace. :thumbsup::p

What's wrong with the block brace?

[Mr_will]

What's wrong with the block brace?

how about the fact that they contribute to overheating and distortion of the cylinder so that it may become oval instead of round

[ECU-MAN]

no replacement for displacement

[aaronng]

how about the fact that they contribute to overheating and distortion of the cylinder so that it may become oval instead of round

If the engine is overheating, then there are other problems. If it doesn't overheat, then you are less likely to get distortion.
AFAIK, S2k has a block brace from factory.

[gambate]

Toda A2 > Toda A

[DLO01]

I don' know about the S2K. But that was designed from factory. So you would trust that.

There is never any need to use a brace in a B series if you need to, get some nice sleaves installed. They inhibit water flow and interfere with expansion rates. They will cause more harm than good.

[fatboyz39]

b18c7 all the way... might change my view on the b16a after this weekend.

[string]

Definately the B18C7. No block guard. Stock is very good upper cylinder cooling and plenty strong.

[EGJOE]

Gday guys
Looks like the decisions been made clear, B18 will be better.
The motor should be here soon so as long as it looks clean enough its going in.

Not too sure about the toda A cams though.

Thanks fellas
EGJOE

[barefootbonzai]

didn't know it was you joe. just get the b18 and wack the cams in if it's not costing you anything. difference between ITR and Toda A is very minimal.

[90LAN]

how much u paying for one ?
im keen to do the same mate

[EGJOE]

G'day 6OLAN

Pretty exy mate, not sure as yet. I can do the conversion for ya though mates rates:p LOL
You back in Brissy yet?

Cheers BE DE
EDJOE

[mr180sx]

i heard they retail for 5k.

I think its out of your price range Joe

[EGJOE]

hey buddy
Yeh retail is about that price but if you hunt around and know the rite people can get for alot less than 5
Motor should be here tuesday cant wait yipee;)

Cheers
EGJOE

[EGJOE]

Motor has arrived in Brissy yipeee, should be picking it up this weekend if its good.:cool:

EGJOE

[barefootbonzai]

all you guys are fags! hahahah

[Limbo]

mate do the poor man's ITR
use the b16 head if its still ok and get the b18c block.
Will be cheaper, with pretty much the same result.