P-plater and DC5r

[bjornzzz]

Hey guys, me and my bro are looking at buying a dc5r and was wondering if it's legal for a p-plater. I'm in victoria btw..

[dyljoy]

I think should be alright, I'm in QLD btw.

Hey guys, me and my bro are looking at buying a dc5r and was wondering if it's legal for a p-plater. I'm in victoria btw..

[[RSX 03]]

i think it's illegal in VIC, Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[MMike]

i think it's illegal in VIC, Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You're correct. In VIC, it's illegal for a P-Plater to drive an AU DC5R due to the power to weight ratio law.

The DC5R weighs 1160KG and has 147kW, therefore has 127kw p/ tonne, whereas the legal limit (in VIC) is 125kW/tonne.

And you can't add things to your DC5R to weight it down to reduce the power-to-weight as the police go by the figures of it coming out of the factory, which is 1160KG =(

(Source: http://webapps.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrcalc.nsf/pwcalc?OpenForm)

[bjornzzz]

but isnt the new law no turbocharged, no supercharged, no v8s or above or high power v6s?

[johnprocter]

i think thats in NSW

[omgitsmatt]

http://arrivealive.vic.gov.au/node/197

basically there just an add on to the existing law..

[azn_k3nt]

uh o_O" no wonder i havent seen any dc5r wif p-plate damn these power to weight ratio ><"

[omgitsmatt]

ive seen a few fair.. i actually think cops rather pull over a car with a body kit and rims then a car thats illegal to drive

[curik]

I swear to god, do police even bother checking the cars P Platers drive? When I go around Melb uni sometimes I see a P plated boxter and e46 m3. Yes you heard that right, e46 m3 with a p plate sticker on the window. WTF?

[omgitsmatt]

yeah a friend of mine drives a porsche cayenne never been pulled over :S

[bjornzzz]

Guys i found the answer.. THx omgitsmatt for that web.. i shall copypaste the quote from there..

However, if a probationary driver with a pre-July 2007 licence has a car that does not meet the power to weight restrictions, but it does comply with the new high powered vehicle restrictions effective from July 2007, then the probationary driver may drive the car..

So in other words, the power to weight ratio is totally SCRAPPED, just for victoria though..

@ curik, i think the police just aims for people with jap cars p-platers as it's often easier to mod the car and therefore easier to go over the limit..

[FD1]

yeh under the new rules and regulations, P-platers can legally drive the s2000 coz its not turbocharged :)

[omgitsmatt]

and hummers

[se7en]

well it u following the new rule u can drive a dc5r but u cant mod it at all

[bjornzzz]

I'm happy keeping it stock, maybe some minor mods..

[dyljoy]

Great, hope u buy a nice Dc5R later, it is really a nice car which worth to own~

[Sypherg]

Good luck , hope you find a decent one... im selling mine if your interested travelling down here in Sydney :)

Have all stock parts plus light mods.. check car for sale section.

[se7en]

dc5r a nice car man..considering I drive one XP

[Dr.k20z1]

if your in brisbane/qld u are fine.. just try and find insurance haha

[air23box]

you should be fine......except you mod it to the max and drive like a bloody hoon.....but isn't that law shits you some time...you can't even drive a Daihatsu Coopen....coz its turbo......but its like 110hp or sth?? what a joke...

[geeang]

you should be fine......except you mod it to the max and drive like a bloody hoon.....but isn't that law shits you some time...you can't even drive a Daihatsu Coopen....coz its turbo......but its like 110hp or sth?? what a joke...

Actually, you can drive the daihatsu copen, if you looked on the website then you would see the copen is exempt from the laws. I think it's a good law to stop inexperienced drivers from getting overpowered cars and driving like idiots.....killing themselves and other people :thumbdwn:

[kiet88]

r you sure bjornzzz???

"The current power to weight restrictions will continue to apply for drivers who obtain their probationary licences before 1 July 2007." thats the direct quote from http://arrivealive.vic.gov.au/node/199.

thats why i opted out of getting a type R. didnt wanna risk paying $1100 and losing 3 demerit points.

ill just wait will i get my full license - that way insurance will be a bit cheaper as well.

[TeMp]

P platers in VIC can not drive DC5Rs as it is over the power to weight ratio allowed for them.

My friend who was on P plates was fined for this in his DC5R.

End of story. Close thread thanks.

[nick_sixx]

is the type s legal? and in qld, i dont think it possible to get defected, ive never even heard of anyone i know getting their car defected or anything.

[Dr.k20z1]

nar up ere.. nothings too strict yet aye...

type r type s is all legal.. anything that isnt turbo, supercharged, >v8 is all good aye

:D

[bjornzzz]

@ kiet88
hmmm weird.. as it states, However, if a probationary driver with a pre-July 2007 licence has a car that does not meet the power to weight restrictions, but it does comply with the new high powered vehicle restrictions effective from July 2007, then the probationary driver may drive the car.

@ temp
the new law states:
An engine of eight or more cylinders;
a turbocharged or supercharged engine (except diesel powered vehicles);
an engine that has been modified to increase its performance

And the type R meets all these conditions.. The cop who fined your friend is an idiot, so get your friend to write in..

[kiet88]

bjornzzz
Ok Found it - its on http://arrivealive.vic.gov.au/node/196 , not 196 or 199

Only if i know they before i bought my dc4 - oh well - insurance would have been a pain anyway

[bjornzzz]

damn.. badluck man..

[Mr_will]

P platers in VIC can not drive DC5Rs as it is over the power to weight ratio allowed for them.

My friend who was on P plates was fined for this in his DC5R.

End of story. Close thread thanks.

lol fail. its open for discussion dude :)

[azn_k3nt]

ja i had this tread in the noob section XD but its all cool =]

so im going 2 settle down wif a dc5r :D

[bjornzzz]

lucky you guys.. not getting the type R anymore.. T.T or integra in this case, getting an accord euro instead.. Shoot me please

[azn_k3nt]

accord euro isnt a bad car for a vtec...just slightly more chubby but u can comfort zone 4 the other passengers/girls ;) xD

[Integra89]

but isnt the new law no turbocharged, no supercharged, no v8s or above or high power v6s?

the new law that will be comming in is no turbo or supercharged cars, no v8's and all v6's have the power to weight ratio so yea, cant even drive a vn com on yours P's

[geeang]

eehhh what do you mean "the new law that will be coming in"?

That law's been in effect for quite some time now :P

[Integra89]

eehhh what do you mean "the new law that will be coming in"?

That law's been in effect for quite some time now :P

yea i just found that one is i was thinking of the only one person between 16-21 in the car at one time, thats coming in july 2008, so yea

[bjornzzz]

the one passenger rule is coming in July 2008.. so sucks if you get your Ps after July 2008. Plus longer Ps test, 40 minutes instead of 20, longer Ps in terms of years..

[Exezed]

Im a P plater in Vic and i drive a DC5R. I've driven along side police heaps of times and i've never being pulled over + i've seen other dc5R and FN2R P platers down at glen waverly. It's up to you i guess

[Double R]

if daddy can buy you one i'm sure daddy can pay the fines.

Just drive it.

[_paybk]

u can drive it.. power to weight dosent apply to p - platers anymore just no turbo v8 and super charged.

[_paybk]

but the people that can drive turbos and v8's watever on their p's they have the power to weight ratio law.