What Break Pads

[ArSe]

hey guys,

i just want to know what are good break pads and approx what price for a DC2R. and where to get em.....

i always hear people raving about enless but are they really that good?? anyone tried em? how about spoon? are there much diff from standard type r ones?

thanks guys

[SPEEDCORE]

Yes my G/F and I use Endless pads on her EK4 and also Endless brake fluid..... we will never go back to any other pad after what we have experienced with them.... NA-R on the front NA-S on the rear.... on the street they do not show their true potential, (not enough heat generated.... unless we go for a run to Mt. Cootha :) ), but at QR they are very good!

However it all depends on what you do with your DC2R..... do you just drive on the street or do you also do a bit of track work? Alot of people can not justify the price of such pads on a car they drive everyday and never take to a circuit, which is fair enough.

In saying this, Endless do carry a range of pads which are replacements for your OEM pads and are said to have good initial bite (good for street, don't need alot of heat), great braking capabilities and good durability and also a bit easier on the wallet.

I can not comment on these types of street pads from endless as I have never used them so I can not give any feedback on them. If the quality and performance of the more "track orientated" pads are anything to go by........ then they are definately worth a try.

[vtir22]

I've tried the NA-S on my prelude before and I must say they were awesome! However they dust really badly and eat up discs much faster.. but that's to be expected for a higher friction pads I guess.

For street I'm using Project-Mu type NS on my dc2r... decent pads without too much dust. :)

[wynode]

I've also heard good stuff about the Racebreaks RB74s. There is a nice long thread on CRSX so you might wanna check that out.
Do a search for that link :)

[Setanta]

While were at it - I have to replace my front rotors - I was going to go with DBA rotors - good move or not? It's a daily driver, not a racer.

[wynode]

Just get the slotted, not the cross drilled. Let me know the best price you get them for Pete :)

Last time I checked they were around $110 each?

[mytoycivic]

my brother had green stuff pads and they were awesome stopping power...not much left in ur wallet at the end though...especially if you go for 4!!! maybe get some real good ones for the front and average for the rear...as most of your braking is done on the front...60/40???correct? pls vouch

[Setanta]

I prolly wont go with the greens etc as I've had people report that they warp rotors. If it was just one person saying it I wouldn't worry... but a fair few have mentioned it. 110 sounds like what I was quoted a while back Win - I might just go blanks rather than slotted - just to retain the original look :)

[monstaR]

Honestly go with endless and you would not regret it....... have not tried spoon but once I started using endless, just did not feel like using other brands. :D

[mytoycivic]

ok thanks for the info setanta...*looks at green stuff pads sitting on the desk and shakes his head...then looks in his wallet to find nothing but a pizza hit coupon and a drivers license*

[SPEEDCORE]

As for the comment on just getting good pads on the front and skimp on the rear...... I somewhat disagree with the whole idea of this "oh the fronts do most of the work so don't bother about good rears".

I'll try to explain......

Lets base it on a circuit scenario because that is where I am more familiar with driving a car hard as opposed to driving on the street hard

Ok.... lets say that with these better pads (just on the front) you have good braking force on the front wheels.... but the rear pads you have chosen are not as good, what you can possibly experience is the car pitching forward excessively due to the fronts doing more work than what they are supposed to be doing.

If you think about it this can dramatically unsettle a cars balance into a turn as the car is pitching forward thus making the rear of the car raise more than what it should and lighten up making for very unpredicatiable cornering.

Futhermore.... if this continues (the fronts taking more of a percentage of work than what they are supposed to be taking) then the braking efficency of the front brakes will deteriorate quicker..... think brake fade can start to occur much sooner than anticipated.

So if you have a rear pad that is well matched to the front pads.... you will get a car that will,

A. Brake alot easier and in shorter distances, not just becuase of quality of pads but because of the forward pitching of the car creating extra work for the front brakes, inertia that is moving to the front of the car.

B. Better stability during high speed braking, which in turn can effect the speed which you carry through the turn as you have a car that is sitting flatter as you approach the turn under brakes.

C. More resistance to fade, less tyre wear (think less frequent lockups if you have no ABS or choose to disable it at the track).

I could keep going but I am sure you are getting the picture by now and its late and I don't want to write a novel on brake pads over working on ideas for a screenplay.

Goodnight!! :wave:

[tinkerbell]

hey guys,

i just want to know what are good break pads and approx what price for a DC2R. and where to get em.....

i always hear people raving about enless but are they really that good?? anyone tried em? how about spoon? are there much diff from standard type r ones?

thanks guys

brakes, they are called brakes :!:

[SPEEDCORE]

Man give him a ............... break!! :D

[Setanta]

Speedcore: agreed, brakes are about balance - proportioned pressure applied to each rotor for a specific purpose; to stop the car in the most efficient manner possible. Brakes and suspension are the two areas which are most neglected on aging cars and even on a lot of modified cars. BHP always seems to come before the ability to stop and handle - often to the detriment of the driver due to the changing dynamics.

tinkerbell: STFU speeling and gramma nazi :D

[mytoycivic]

i agree with setanta...most people will go for speed before safety!!! if you are going to upgrade hp, it is vital to upgrade suspension and brakes for safety's sake!

SPEEDCORE thanks for the in depth (late night) explanation!!! i know that all four brakes matter, but for the street, simply cruising, i would rather get really good brakes for the front rather than average ones for the four

[tinkerbell]

SPEEDCORE thanks for the in depth (late night) explanation!!! i know that all four brakes matter, but for the street, simply cruising, i would rather get really good brakes for the front rather than average ones for the four

but your braking ability is reduced if you *ONLY* get really good front pads?!?! :thumbdwn:

get the best you can afford on all four corners!!!

[mytoycivic]

yeh true...ok thanks...

[type one]

project mu for street... endless range for street is a bit overkill and mu is cheaper but still has good heat ranges.