What are u guys lowered on?

[ej20i]

hey guys, thinking of lowering my FD...as it needs to....wondering wad u guys are on and how much

[LD_Mart]

hey guys, thinking of lowering my FD...as it needs to....wondering wad u guys are on and how much

King Springs - 300 Including installation at Jax Tyres Thornleigh

[jckidz]

My FD1 on King springs as well (Nice drop:D).. $350 at suspension City..

[Frost_FD]

Looks like i paid to much to drop mine on kings.... i dont even want to say now..

[ej20i]

LOLZ!!!!how much??i heard that kings sags all the time..
and also...i called up KMAC 2day to get it done...he sed that the front springs on FDs are weird and it cant be replace so it has to be compressed...so thats a lie then eh

[joey99]

Spoon Spring :) $350 ...mates rates though. ..

[ej20i]

Spoon Spring :) $350 ...mates rates though. ..

can u give us that price aswell, gettin 2 sets

[ej20i]

king springs, dun they sags...after a while?how long have u guys got em?

[sKy.xD]

wow these are nice prices ... are any of these places in melb? i got quoted nearly double at 2 diff places ...

[LD_Mart]

i had my king springs on my FD for 25 - 27 thousand ks and never had a prob....but then again every lowered car never feels as smooth thats the only problem but thats just a general problem to any car...

By the way i still got springs left over from mine when i sold it sitting my garage any one want them

[ej20i]

how much u willing to let go?

[BC8]

did you have the springs with the stock shocks? btw how much was it lowered by 2"?
Can you get kings in 1.5"

[LD_Mart]

yeh springs with stock shocks...

i dont know how much it was lowered by i just asked the jax and they ordered them in and did it for me...

heres a pic...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/danny_mart/PA2400621.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/danny_mart/PB260067.jpg

[denot]

off topic: LD_MART, I just saw your car on sale!!! :p
LD_MART Bro's car :p (http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/HONDA/CIVIC/details.aspx?Cr=2&State=New%20South%20Wales&R=5438888&state_id=898&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__N=4294965322+898+4294965250+4294926911+785+1216+ 834+285+258+287&distance=25&RegionID=785&trecs=4&__Nne=20&seot=0&silo=1000&__sid=1165CE00F84B&Model=CIVIC&__Qpb=true&Region=State%20Wide&Make=HONDA)

[LD_Mart]

never seen that before but wow i miss him so much time and effort put into it....hes changed though haha..

are they serious 33,999

u can tell i took the front springs off ay...

[dmx]

never seen that before but wow i miss him so much time and effort put into it....hes changed though haha..

are they serious 33,999

u can tell i took the front springs off ay...
just curious, how much they bought from u ?

[denot]

just curious, how much they bought from u ?

its on diff thread, but its around 29K ish... pretty good deal!!!!

[BC8]

[QUOTE=LD_Mart;1618617]yeh springs with stock shocks...

i dont know how much it was lowered by i just asked the jax and they ordered them in and did it for me...

it looks like the springs are about 2-2.5" drop

I might give other jax outlets a call when the time comes around to getting some lowering springs.
Juggling b/w eibach sportline from the states and the king springs

[rk 86 wa]

coilovers ~1k from overseas

2"

[xiaohung]

eibach 1.4" F/R

[jcpabc]

I put Tein S.Tech lowered by 1.4/1.3
$450 incl installation

[ej20i]

I put Tein S.Tech lowered by 1.4/1.3
$450 incl installation

where did u get that done?

[sKy.xD]

I put Tein S.Tech lowered by 1.4/1.3
$450 incl installation

wow where did you get it done and how does your ride feel against stock?

[nny911]

wad the hek??
i cant even get near those prices even with jax thornleigh giving me 500 bux

[ej20i]

i cant get those prices LD MART...can some1 help me out and connect me to their places...since i get heaps higher prices...the highest so far is 800 bux

[cupu-80]

for fd1 owners in adelaide, how much is it to lowered the car?with what springs do you guys think its good?

[LD_Mart]

i cant get those prices LD MART...can some1 help me out and connect me to their places...since i get heaps higher prices...the highest so far is 800 bux

Jax Quick Fit Tyres

215 Pennant Hills Road,
Thornleigh NSW 2120

Telephone: 02 9875 3266

[mars_panas]

Hi guys... i was lowered on cut springs...

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7402/img1248cg4rn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

But just bought myself new springs Tein H-Tech drops f35mm r30mm

[markCivicVti]

Why do some not like Kings springs? Whats their reputation like?

[mars_panas]

Kings and Pedders... they attend to Sag after a while.. and the ride is pretty rough... i got told from OTR someone had king springs on there Honda and it snapped so he got himself Tein s-tech...

But everyone have different opinion...

[ej20i]

LD MART, i can even get it at that price...can u please hook me up man?

[joey99]

spend the money .. the spoon springs are well worth the money ... very comfortable ... and when you go hard, they go hard too :)

[ej20i]

So I just got my car lowered on kings for 250 bux...if any1 wans arnd the same price just pm me.its firmer than stock, but hey that's wad u get for a shorter spring and the handling is the instant notice.but its not so stiff that its unbareble.im satisfied with it...will post some pics once im home and taken some pics.

[warwick108]

how much is tein springs in melb? where is the best place to shop for a bargain? im asian, im going to bring my old ladie along to bargain.. lol

[mars_panas]

OTR - http://www.ontherunmotorsports.com/

ask Crazy Ray in this forum he might be able to give you discount on Tein Springs @ OTR :p

[sKy.xD]

how much is tein springs in melb? where is the best place to shop for a bargain? im asian, im going to bring my old ladie along to bargain.. lol

let me bring my mum soo double the bargaining :D 2 asian ladies haha

[ej20i]

here we go guys, have been lazy for a while
got this done on thursdae and here are the pics.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_3254.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_3255.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_3257.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_3256.jpg

for comparison
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_3143.jpg
stock

Review:What i found difference straight away is the handling capability when taking roundabout, it feels stuck on the road and also the ride stiffnes...its really firm but thats how i like it.and the ride height. well at first my thoughts were "they rip me off, its whats the difference???" but after a while seeing it and comparing to my brothers car which has the same set up as me as in the wheels (215/45/17) den i can tell the diff. the ride height on the pic is after 5 days of install and its how i like it...Perfect...
im using Kings...

[denot]

hey EJ, thats 17"? looks small eh... :confused: but the ride height is nice!!

[ej20i]

yea tis a 17, ppl always ask...is that 16s??:-(
it does look small, thinking of upgrading 2 18s but dun relly wanna pae to lower bak 2 this height again
thanks man

[denot]

no EJ, I thank you! Now I decided to go 18" instead of 17" (when I have the budget that is...) hope I can get a good price from trade in my 16" Sports rim (5 of them!!! :p)

[cracker]

EJ ur car looks so good...its simple but its really good u know...ur not overdoing it...it looks very nice...hows the handling?

[DC4Integra98]

Wow you guys are getting crazy prices. From the quotes i've gotten, it is nothing close to $250 for kings installed here in melb.

Anyone know a place in melb at this ($250-350) price point?

[LD_Mart]

EJ, give it a review in about 3 months it is alot different to when you first have it....



Anyone know a place in melb at this ($250-350) price point?


we got our prices from jaxx quick fit tyres... well pretty sure thats where EJ got his from after i recommended him there so have a try there

[DC4Integra98]

EJ, give it a review in about 3 months it is alot different to when you first have it....


Better or worse?



we got our prices from jaxx quick fit tyres... well pretty sure thats where EJ got his from after i recommended him there so have a try there
Cheers! thank you very much

[ej20i]

o relly?
wads the diff?atm the handling.i love it...will it change?
i got it from a guy at castle hill, jax tyres told me 2 wait 2 weeks...so meh
thanks tho ld mart

[denot]

o relly?
wads the diff?

hopefully the ride height didnt get lower in 3 months :p

[DC4Integra98]

sounds like kings sag bad?

[LD_Mart]

The springs take a while to settle in.
once weight is placed on the springs over a certain time period the springs will settle in and be at the lowered height.
such as the front will drop quicker then the back due to the engine weighing it down.
Also the ride tends to get worse the lower the car gets.
Personally i found the handling too be better the lower the car get and could take corners alot tighter but there wasnt to much difference from the stock.
this is just my experience from putting king springs on my FD2.

[FD2R]

for fd1 owners in adelaide, how much is it to lowered the car?with what springs do you guys think its good?

Push :)
Push :D

[Frost_FD]

The springs take a while to settle in.
once weight is placed on the springs over a certain time period the springs will settle in and be at the lowered height.
such as the front will drop quicker then the back due to the engine weighing it down.
Also the ride tends to get worse the lower the car gets.
Personally i found the handling too be better the lower the car get and could take corners alot tighter but there wasnt to much difference from the stock.
this is just my experience from putting king springs on my FD2.

Agreed!

[xiaohung]

I got eibach sportline on my fd1

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9137/eibach1wx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3248/eibach2cc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[markCivicVti]

For you guys who have springs other than Kings, did any of you get them from the US? I'm wondering if the springs they have for the LX/DX USDM civics (also with the R18a engine) have the same springs as ours... anyone know?

[xiaohung]

i got mine from US. Its sharing the same spring as US sedan 1.8L

[civ04]

Supp,i Gots Skunk 2 On My 04 Civic Sedan,had Kings But It Only Lowerd One Inch,so I Got Some Skunks And It Droped 2.25.i Gots To Get Camber Correction Kit Front And Rear Though.but I Am Happy With The Ride.not As Harsh As The Kings.

[wilzee]

I got eibach sportline on my fd1

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9137/eibach1wx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3248/eibach2cc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Love your car. Sex on wheels...

[xiaohung]

Love your car. Sex on wheels...

Thanks

[denot]

Love your car. Sex on wheels...

yup me too! so "Thin" :p

[ks_b]

I got eibach sportline on my fd1

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9137/eibach1wx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3248/eibach2cc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

really nice. is that 17" or 18" or 19" wheel? how much you lowered by?

[denot]

really nice. is that 17" or 18" or 19" wheel? how much you lowered by?

I think its from Accord Euro Lux?

[sKy.xD]

I think its from Accord Euro Lux?

yeh im pretty sure there from the accord euros 17s?

[xiaohung]

it's 17" from Euro Lux, drop 1.4" front and rear

the offset from euro is 35, we should get 45 for our civic.

I did use spacer before, however it causes wheels vibration then decide to take it off.

[DC4Integra98]

it's 17" from Euro Lux, drop 1.4" front and rear

the offset from euro is 35, we should get 45 for our civic.

I did use spacer before, however it causes wheels vibration then decide to take it off.

Is that about a 2 finger gap from a 1.4" drop?

[xiaohung]

I'd say 1 finger gap.

[warwick108]

nice rims mate.. ive always wanted to put those rims on my fd.. and now i can see how it looks. =).. do u have pics before lowering?

[xiaohung]

here it is.
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/193/civluxkw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[warwick108]

since the fd has a 45 offset..and the rims are 35... what problems do u have?

[xiaohung]

absolutely nothing! I might sell the wheels and eibach springs in the next 2 months if u're interested.

[cupu-80]

I FOUND TEIN S TECH on ebay for $330 if not mistaken. including shipment.

[mars_panas]

I FOUND TEIN S TECH on ebay for $330 if not mistaken. including shipment.

make sure they aren't replicas.... always double check before you buy :thumbsup:

[cupu-80]

well how to check?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300228174468&rd=1

it says 100% authentic...so i guess its not a replica

[mars_panas]

well how to check?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300228174468&rd=1

it says 100% authentic...so i guess its not a replica

Not really sure to tell u the truth... i only buy small things from ebay that is not expensive... but yeah reading the description and feedbacks from others looks like its genuine :thumbsup:

[cupu-80]

alright then....ebay it is ^_^. will post pic once installed. cheers

[danjoy25]

Can anyone here confirm if springs below would fit FD Civics?

Honda 2006 Civic Si (Si, FG2, 2Dr Coupe/4Dr Sedan) Tein H-Tech Springs (SKB14-BUB00)

[ej20i]

well if it fits the FG2 it shud fit the FD since they have the same shape

[danjoy25]

Thanks for that. Im doing abit more research so I found the link below about resetting springs.

http://autospeed.com/cms/A_3082/article.html

Anyone here experience first hand if ride quality is still the same? Im after a maximum 1 inch drop.

[y4ris_gRl]

one problem I found was that a lot of springs tend to lower the back more then the front... which I don't think is a look many are attempting to achieve.

[ej20i]

the place i did it at, he suggest not to reset springs..the ride will be tougher than lowerd springs

[sKy.xD]

the place i did it at, he suggest not to reset springs..the ride will be tougher than lowerd springs

suposidly it meant to be the same lol. Wouldnt reccommend it.

So hows your springs now ej20i? has the springs adjusted and all? There is no place i can find that will drop anymore then 1.5 in melbourne other than using king springs ... so i might have to go kings afterall.

[ej20i]

okae...it relly depends on how u drive...since, for the las few weeks ive been doing some mountain driving..i have to say...im disapointed..the spring became realy soft after 2 laps...and it started to sink the car in the driver side causing scratches on the front spoiler...look into importing mate...i think its a much better investments..like bilstein or tein...look into japanparts.com

[HT06CIV]

hey mate, question.. can i ask where u got yours lowered at and how for that price?
i got an FD1 on 18" and im thinking of lowering it about an inch to an inch and a half... can u help us out? cheers man...


So I just got my car lowered on kings for 250 bux...if any1 wans arnd the same price just pm me.its firmer than stock, but hey that's wad u get for a shorter spring and the handling is the instant notice.but its not so stiff that its unbareble.im satisfied with it...will post some pics once im home and taken some pics.

[cuongn]

amyone tryed LOVELLS springs, i heard they are better then king springs?

[HT06CIV]

How much are they? and where can u get them from?


amyone tryed LOVELLS springs, i heard they are better then king springs?

[cuongn]

u can get them basically anywhere, just go in and ask, i'm sure that they can get LOVELLS springs

[Shimian]

super noob at this topic. This is my first time upgrading my wheels therefore also first time at lowering.

Currently on 16" and upgrading to 18". Looking at Tein S.Tech or H.Tech to lower the ride. What im after is decent comfortability and not scraping my fender. Am i looking at the right thing?

In this thread, most are on King Springs. Are they the same as the Tein S/H.Tech? Looking to spend around $500 max to lower my car with some comfort.

cheers all

[danjoy25]

I posted pics of mine on H-tech if you search. Drop is less than an inch and ride is very OEM like so still comfortable and the wife hasn't complain yet. I got it from an Ebay seller shipped for AUS$350.00 a few months ago when our dollar was strong.

[I heart the SSS]

Koni yellow with Koni springs...

[ShAwNeX]

Is the S-TECH meant to be more sportier than the H-TECH?

[dannybubu]

anyone got tein SS on their ride?

[BC8]

i got a set of skunk2's springs ordered and arriving soon.

its about a 2" drop front and rear according to specs.. will post pics when i get it installed and aligned.

[ekdez]

looking to lower my car on 19's
only want the arches to sit above the tires.
any suggestions..?

[buzz]

i did have king springs which are for sale btw for $200 sits nicely where the tyre meets the arches probably a 2" drop not fully sure tho

now on fully adjustable pedder coilovers loving it :)

[LD_Mart]

Why would anyone pay 200bucks for 2nd hand king springs good lucky getting that price...
u can pick them up whole sale for $220

[ekdez]

any other options.. not looking for coilovers.. just springs

[buzz]

looking for that price cause i only have had them for a month and only driven on them for about 2000kms but i am willing to cut a deal of course :thumbsup: :D

[SHU-ES1]

how much did you pick up the coilovers for buzz? worth the change over from king springs? i'm sitting on chopped super low kings and i feel they are too bouncy! :(

[FallenAngel]

Rofl one of the worse things is to be running on chopped springs...

Definately worth the investment..

[SHU-ES1]

i know! any suggestions for decent brands of ES coilovers? and an estimated price range? and if possible, where in melbourne i can get them done? thanks!

[buzz]

actually ive consulted a professional sports racing guy which only worked on racing car suspension and said that its most of the time better to chop your original springs cause of the compression rate of the spring will still stay the same which is better for the car and the ride comfort would be the same as you got it... yes the shock is lower and doesnt have far to travel cause your car is lower but yer youd get the same thing with a change of springs

i love the coils... pedders are nice and the make of the coil is great, with damper adjustable, height adjustable and it just looks really well made. I got it all done for $2000.

[rk 86 wa]

chopping springs is retarded and who every said chopping springs is good, has no idea what he is talking about,

if you chop a spring you completely f*ck up hookes law, which is what models characteristics of springs.

F= -kx where:

f = force exerted
k = spting constant
x = displacement of spring

if you chop the spring, your x value changes dramatically and for what your car is designed for (ie stock spring length) everything is put out of wack

also if you chop a spring, you are exposing the metal surface (with no forum of corrosion resistance) and can later on you can have rusty springs which i assume you can imagine will lose all structural integrity and be more likely to f*ck up

if you chop springs and use your stock shocks then you now have shocks which will not work with the chopped springs due to changes in spring length vs shock stroke etc, so that wont be very good either

just spend the extra money and buy proper springs rather than hack up your oem springs because:

1: you can reuse oem springs later to return car to stock height if selling
2: if you chop springs, you are the same as every single vl sump drifter out there
3: spring wont even sit in spring perch evenly. if you chop a spring then you are now resting the spring on a point rather than the sides and could do damage to the spring perch
4:

rah rah rah rah

could go on forever

DONT CHOP SPRINGS! >.<

[fitvpower]

chopping springs is retarded and who every said chopping springs is good, has no idea what he is talking about,

if you chop a spring you completely f*ck up hookes law, which is what models characteristics of springs.

F= -kx where:

f = force exerted
k = spting constant
x = displacement of spring

if you chop the spring, your x value changes dramatically and for what your car is designed for (ie stock spring length) everything is put out of wack

also if you chop a spring, you are exposing the metal surface (with no forum of corrosion resistance) and can later on you can have rusty springs which i assume you can imagine will lose all structural integrity and be more likely to f*ck up

if you chop springs and use your stock shocks then you now have shocks which will not work with the chopped springs due to changes in spring length vs shock stroke etc, so that wont be very good either

just spend the extra money and buy proper springs rather than hack up your oem springs because:

1: you can reuse oem springs later to return car to stock height if selling
2: if you chop springs, you are the same as every single vl sump drifter out there
3: spring wont even sit in spring perch evenly. if you chop a spring then you are now resting the spring on a point rather than the sides and could do damage to the spring perch
4:

rah rah rah rah

could go on forever

DONT CHOP SPRINGS! >.<

don't take this the rong way, but your a tru nerd lol. The one who puts his knowledge into practice. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[SHU-ES1]

thanks for the info rk. i didn't realise how much damage could be done by doing something so simple, and i didn't know much - and still don't know much - about suspension. thanks again, ill look into getting a decent set of coilovers. i've seen really cheap ones on ebay for say ~$50, but i'm just going to assume those would snap if too much pressure was placed on them hence the super cheap price, in comparison to some other brands which range from $800-1400 in price. ill head down to my local pedders outlet and see what those folks got to say. they'd probably say the same thing you just posted. thanks again!

[buzz]

i have to agree with you that ill definitely buy new springs for my car, im still sus about the chopping of springs as well as i can put them back when i sell the car.

but i have to disagree with what rk says "if you chop the spring, your x value changes dramatically and for what your car is designed for (ie stock spring length) everything is put out of wack" the only thing that changes is the length of the coil... not the compression rate of the actual spring. Most springs for lowering basically do the same thing as chopping your springs, just that you can buy a variaty of springs which can vary your compression rate.

ive talked to a few suspension experts about this and they all agree on this.

but again rk i would rather buy clean new springs :)

good chatting :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[rk 86 wa]

that isnt entirely true, compression rate is also dependant on the number of active coils in a spring and if you chop a spring you are effectively removing n number of coils and causing a change :P

btw what springs are you looking at?

[buzz]

no more springs bro... coils...

well ive had pedder springs to start off with on my first car... then went to kings then went to kmac (which is crap) then went to einbach which is awesome i love... then to kings which i do like and is cheap... and now on pedder coils which are awesome and love.

but its cool... :D

[ekdez]

can anyone be bothered to list out some decent lowered springs for fd's, as well as where we could get some from. im sure most people are wondering about this.

[jeromerae]

just a list i quickly kame up with:

king springs
teins
lovells
kmac
pedders
einbach
skunk2 maybe?

welcome to correct me or add to list

[HWIROL]

SHU-ES1 there is a place in Moorrabbin called Advantage Suspension, they will prob be able to help you out with what you are after, these guys know their sh*t....call them on 95552633


i got my car lowered 3.5" all round still drives well except speed humps are a b!tch!

[dmx]

DONT CHOP SPRINGS! >.<


compression rate is also dependant on the number of active coils in a spring and if you chop a spring you are effectively removing n number of coils and causing a change :P



:thumbsup:

chopping the spring will reduce the flexibility of spring.
and esp. for Honda civic (tried ED -EG and EK), always cause negative chamber, why ? don't know. and can't be fix.
so assume ES and FD will be the same effect.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ngupil.gif

[rk 86 wa]

negative camber from lowering our cars is normal, as you lower the car, the lower control arms on our fds sit more horizontal and therefore the hub gets angled out a bit.

of course you can fix that with a camber kit :)

[SHU-ES1]

thanks so much hwirol! ill let you know how it turns out! yeh, i got that problem of my rear tyres bending outwards.. the front wheels are ok though.

[black8thgen]

uhm whats the recommended drop on an fd with a mugen kit on? as in rear [?] and front [?] like.. without being too low that every driveway you go up is like a mission impossible.

cheers

[black8thgen]

so after reading the whole thread, still havn't come to a conclusion of what springs to get =/.. Tein's sound the go though.. just don't know the difference between S-tech and H-tech and SS etc etc.. anyone had experience with this?

and does anyone know where we can get skunk2 or tein springs here in sydney? i've looked all over ebay and the shipping costs are 100US+.. conversion rate is too poor for that right now..

[amurray]

Im lowered on Cusco Zero GT coilovers.

[black8thgen]

tein s-tech.. anyone using it? and what about skunk2s?

[denot]

^^^ hey black8thgen, andy review on the s-tech? thinking of getting one... :p

[black8thgen]

yeah i was thinking of getting em too, but damn its too expensive on ebay.. 500+ cos of crappy conversion rate with US.

hmm nah havnt found any real first hand reviews, but like from what i hear people say here.. sounds the go over kings in the long run.

have you found a place to get them from?

[denot]

^^^yeah, might get them from indo for around $250ish :p

[black8thgen]

SHIT? really? when are u going back? im going back late January next year.. where you getting them from? or are u gonna order them in? if ur ordering in i wouldnt mind combine shipping =]. but yeah if u could tell me the store in indo please =]

[denot]

well a friend of my cousin selling his one coz his car got tottaled... so only 1 set atm... :(

[black8thgen]

ahh damnnnn. need to go around indo for some cheap parts lol

[BC8]

tein s-tech.. anyone using it? and what about skunk2s?

ive got skunk2 lowering springs on my fd1 installed at the moment

its stiff and cornering/handling is improved defintely. Defintely, wont be as comfortable ride with oen springs. Depends if your use to it and sacrifice the comfort for a lowered ride.

got them from 999 automotive!.

nevertheless, great springs :)

[denot]

^^^ hmmm so how to lower ride but still not sacrificing any comfort?

[black8thgen]

ahh sweet, how low did they drop ur FD?

[BC8]

ahh sweet, how low did they drop ur FD?


Specs is 2.25" front and 2.0" rear but after the fitment onto my FD1.

Seems like about 1 1/4", you will see the difference though especially if you have a set of aftermarket 17"s

[black8thgen]

Specs is 2.25" front and 2.0" rear but after the fitment onto my FD1.

Seems like about 1 1/4", you will see the difference though especially if you have a set of aftermarket 17"s

Ah alright. thats sweet. cheers

[black8thgen]

alright well, whats a set of springs that will give a good 2-3" drop?

and BC8 - how long have you had ur springs on for?

[BC8]

alright well, whats a set of springs that will give a good 2-3" drop?

and BC8 - how long have you had ur springs on for?

2-3" drop, you'll be looking at king springs super low" from 2" onwards drop, low is about 1.5"

I've had my skunk2 springs for about 2 weeks now. Notice more of the drop now then the frist few days after it got installed.

Comparing the both, on my old car I had king springs and I prefer skunk2 over the king springs.

[FallenAngel]

Just got my D2 Coilovers in! No more sluggish sussy now!!!!

[black8thgen]

oh ok. nice ill be getting skunk2s then. cheers

[FD2R]

hi guy, i'm thinking of lowerin my sport with tein SS coilover, but when i search around i found there are different types of TEINSS for the 8Gen civic, like FD1, FD2, FA1, FA5, FG1, FG2 and their price are varies..... just wondering what are their differences except the spring rate and ride height?
besides can any1 confirm civic FD1,FA1, FA5, FG1 and FG2, coilover can fit our civic sport?
http://www.tein.co.jp/products_search/all_products_search.cgi
thanks heaps.

[laju]

So I just got my car lowered on kings for 250 bux...if any1 wans arnd the same price just pm me.its firmer than stock, but hey that's wad u get for a shorter spring and the handling is the instant notice.but its not so stiff that its unbareble.im satisfied with it...will post some pics once im home and taken some pics.

Hey, was your car lowered with Kings lows or super-lows? cause i was told you couldn't get super-lows for FD.....can anyone confirm this??

[FallenAngel]

I wouldn't get springs full stop but thats just IMO... Coilovers FTW..

Anyawys i don't see why not to get the super-lows for the FD. I haven't heard anything wrong / bad that happened with them... I'd say to get the lows since super-lows it'll eventually sag and will cause scrubbing...

[markCivicVti]

I was wanting to lower my fd. But I found out on the weekend that when i have 2 ppl in the back it can scrub when taking corners. And thats not even going that fast. I'm at stock height :(

I guess thats what you get for running +35 offset rims without rolling the guards. Who has rolled their guards? Should i be worried about the paint if i wanted to roll the guards? What sort of places can do that? Rough ball park figure?

[denot]

HAhahaha I'm using 45 but still scrubbing wihtout any1 sitting @ the back (especially when I do 90 degree turn in 30-40km/h speed)

[ekdez]

@ mark,

the fd stock sus is fat and thick in diameter, if u get a coilover setup it wont be as thick so therefore you can slam it and not have to worry about the wheel hitting the shock.

get me?

@ denot,

what sized wheel you got?

im running 19x8 on +42 and i have no problems

either way scrubbing isnt cool. so gl with it all

[markCivicVti]

@ mark,

the fd stock sus is fat and thick in diameter, if u get a coilover setup it wont be as thick so therefore you can slam it and not have to worry about the wheel hitting the shock.

get me?


Yep I understand. But I think my problem isn't the rubber hitting the shocks, but hitting the thin guard. the rims are flush with the guards, and then when the shocks/springs compress enough it can rub (be it cornering with extra weight in the back or when i go over a hump fast enough).

Over humps the front can scrape/rub (has to be pretty bad humps in the road). When cornering with ppl in the back then the rear wheels can scrub.

But interesting to know that the stock suspension is fat. I'm guessing my options are either rolling the guards, or super stiff coilovers lol.

[denot]

@ denot,

what sized wheel you got?

im running 19x8 on +42 and i have no problems

either way scrubbing isnt cool. so gl with it all

mine is 18x7.5 +45/+40 (i think...) dunno what is scrubbing onto but its making sound like the rubber hit/roled onto something

[bodaas]

here is mine,,,

front
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/745/p1901091830ur6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/p1901091830ur6.jpg/1/w850.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img93/p1901091830ur6.jpg/1/)

rear
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5971/p1901091831dx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/p1901091831dx0.jpg/1/w709.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img93/p1901091831dx0.jpg/1/)

[buzz]

dude.... what shocks, springs or coils do you have?

[denot]

boddass that kinda... bad? :s

[black8thgen]

wow.. thats.. yeah bad lol =/..

and denot how are yours scrubbing? 7.5 with +40/45 should be CLEAN as... ur running 225 tyres right? hmm thats a bit odd =/...

hmm i hope a 2" drop with +40 offset and 8" rim won't scrub... maybe i wont buy the springs yet =[. damn....

[denot]

^^^ I'm not sure if its scrubbing or not but, like i sed before, when I do 90 degree turn on a slightly high speed (well only around 30-40km/h) I hear sound like rubber hitting somtehing

[bodaas]

dude.... what shocks, springs or coils do you have?

just compressed spring

[black8thgen]

hmm denot it could just be your tyres on the road surface? maybe their a bit loud =/... would be scary to know that your scrubbing with 7.5 and +40ish i reckon =/. stock height too right?


btw does anyone know if 18x8 +40 with 2" drop would scrub =/..

[jem.142]

i hav 18x8 +40 with 2" drop and rolled guards and no issues with scraping even with full load ... unless i take a turn really hard or hit a abnormally large pot hole or something

[denot]

hmm denot it could just be your tyres on the road surface? maybe their a bit loud =/... would be scary to know that your scrubbing with 7.5 and +40ish i reckon =/. stock height too right?


hmmm it sounds diff but hey who knows... :p

[black8thgen]

yeah but what about without rolled guards? i don't want to roll mine lol =[

[markCivicVti]

I'm considering rolling my guards. I rub as it is now at stock height, but want to lower it as well. Is 60/guard there rough going price? Have to find a place that has enough experience to no destroy my paint.

[black8thgen]

225 or 215 tyres mark? im considering putting 215 on 18s so it wont scrub =/

[markCivicVti]

225, but with offset +35. The font are fine (unless going over large bump) even through cornering. The rear can scrub around corners if i have a load in the back.

[black8thgen]

Ah i see. Hmm that doesn't sound too bad i guess. i think my 18x8 +40 with 2" drop should be fine then. =]

[FallenAngel]

Get 215 tyres... You'd don't want the scrubbing sound if u can avoid it. Its not as "easy going" as it sounds...

with 215/40 18x8 +40 2" drop should be fine although i'd say ur rears when having approx 1 or 2 people in the back will scrub when u go over speed bumps or just uneven roads.

[markCivicVti]

It's hard to find 215/40 tyres with the required load rating for our cars.

Thats why I went with 225.

[black8thgen]

Hmmm, with 215 the rim would stick out a bit too hey? Major guttering issues if im being lazy =[..

[FallenAngel]

It's hard to find 215/40 tyres with the required load rating for our cars.

Thats why I went with 225.

Kuhmo's Ectsa KU31


Hmmm, with 215 the rim would stick out a bit too hey? Major guttering issues if im being lazy =[..

Barely... you won't really notice it..

[JPTL]

alright here comes a noob qs.
no money for rims atm lol but i got a mugen kit.
but i plan to lower on king springs 2"
any probs?? :S:S

[black8thgen]

what u mean? 2" drop with mugen front lip is gonna be licking the ground i reckon lol.. but a lot of people have gone lower so i dunno.. maybe just on my fd it seems lower =.=..

uhmm.. well depends on what size.. width..offset? lol

[FallenAngel]

Should be fine if your rims are stock...

[black8thgen]

just a question: say some springs have gone 10k/km. (skunk2 lowered springs), how much more life is in them on average would you guys say?

[ej20i]

u thinking of buying kevins?id say go for it mate...they only 10K...springs can last u loooooong time...it will be ur shocks that go first den ur springs bro

[black8thgen]

yeaa was thinking of getting them. lols. or should i go for some eibach sportlines that gone 5k/km for 400 bucks? =/

ohh mate btw how much were ur kings lows when new?

[ej20i]

they were 500...id go for the kevins man...skunk 2 are nice springs and the drop on his car is very clean and perfect i rekon

[black8thgen]

nahh sportlines are 400, hmm, yeah i was thinking the skunk2 drop seems pretty clean. but im not sure if it will rub or not cos ill have 18x8 +40.... bit risky?

[ej20i]

ur offset is abit of...but it shud be fine mate....very OKAE!!!!dont worry about it...if ur offset were like +39 and +51...den yea...that wuld be risky otherwise go ahead man

[black8thgen]

oh, haha alright cheers for the help buddy =D. i'll have to get the rims first and see how they fit up..

[ej20i]

oooooh....wad rims u gona get??

[black8thgen]

some white ce28 replicas =D. 18" hehehe. been wanting them for a long time hehe. Been looking around for a nice set of black rims as well though, wouldnt mind some black ones.. (after seeing urs and rene's cars.. looks so aggressive lol).

[ej20i]

hehehhe....yea i put on whites b4...i dunoo it looks nice but u get ova it quick

[black8thgen]

oh really? damn =[. hahaha. what white ones did u have? =D

[FallenAngel]

Waaa becareful with that offset and if u drop the car 2" with only springs... More than likely you'll be scrubbing...

[black8thgen]

thats exactly what i was thinking =[.... do u think it will be that much of a problem?? =/

[ej20i]

i used to have ummm dc2r rims
buzz has 19s and offset was +35...way offf that scrub only in some corners..

[black8thgen]

really? has he rolled guards? im guessing thats 8 width? and has he lowered it much? =/...

[aero]

how much is it to roll guards?

[ekdez]

depends on where you go and how good they are.



anyone heard of "silvers coilovers?"

[FallenAngel]

nope what are those?

[AutoNoob]

mmm EJ20I,
i see your car around when i used to drive to work, looks so leet...i try to catch up with my roflmobile (stock CXI) but your too fast hehe. (crazy fella swerves in and out in bumper to bumper traffic XD)

setup:
koni yellows on max stiffness
red pedder sports ryder - its so damn soft lol, drop about 2 to 2.5 inches depending number of people in car
ASR bar and EK9 sway bar

[.k.]

.. i thought this was 2001+ civic? u can get asr for fd civics?

[akaiEG5]

my personal opinion is if your gonna track get coils, if its just for daily driving with the show then springs! :) *cheaper too!!!

FallenAngel: have you read this before??? you should check it out... sorry to show you but just be aware...

http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t191352.html

i know this probably doesn't happen all the time but it did... with a d2...

[FallenAngel]

Yep ive seen that before although thats the older version of the D2 coils. I've been looking for the actual source and what actually happened at the event but i couldn't find anything.

I know quite a few people with D2's and no problems but i know that isn't a reliable source but so far so good. Even tho i've had them on the track 4 times, on different settings no probs whatsoever with the coils so far...

[ej20i]

i on coils now to fallenangel....hehehehhehe
D2

[FallenAngel]

haha wow u already got them in??

[FallenAngel]

how long did it take for you to put it in? Hows the height of the car also

[ej20i]

it took us 6 hours because my mate accidently pulled the brakes to far so the drive train poped out
the ride height...im loving the adjusting capabality

[FallenAngel]

I took about 6 hrs also and we also poped out the drive-train but it popped straight back in LOL
Adjusting is fun although adjusting the height takes awhile..
What damper setting do have it on?

[dvscoupe]

I'm running BC BR Coilovers, so far I'm finding them fantastic.

It took over 5 hours to get them in the car, same thing with a CV popping out :(

[dannybubu]

did you get them from racenation?

[ej20i]

LOL!!!!seems everyone pop put the cv...hahahaha
im on 10th clik for damper front and 8 in the back
and the height adjust is a bitch!!!
hahahaha

[azn_ek]

hey guys, can the JDM FD2 type R suspension be used in the civic sport FD2 in aus? i found a set in HKG but would like to find out if it fits b4 i buy it.

[Stig]

hey guys, can the JDM FD2 type R suspension be used in the civic sport FD2 in aus? i found a set in HKG but would like to find out if it fits b4 i buy it.

why dont you just get aftermarket coils?... look how much fun ej20i and fallenangel are having

[ej20i]

Lol!!!!

[FallenAngel]

Wow you have it really soft tim, mine's currently set at 20 at the front and 22 at the rear

[ekdez]

nope what are those?

silvers is the brand of coils which is sponsoring the project 200 car... apparently they make coils for fd.



i heard d2 was big no no from nearly everyone...

keen to know how you think of it in a month or so..

[FallenAngel]

I've had it in the car since oct last year and its taken 2 trackdays since. Still running fine!

[ej20i]

yea...nearly had an acco for being to soft...under under under
now i have it on 20 front and 18 rear...see how it goes eh

[black8thgen]

need some help choosing springs =/... im wondeirng whats the best drop, 2" skunk2s or 1.4" eibach sportlines.. but i'm really torn, i was going the skunk2s at first cos the drop seems nicer and lower, but then i take a look at some sportline dropped fds.. and the drop seems the same? wtf?!

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9984/dsc01840v.jpg

thats one on sportlines, then i take a look at say.. kevin's fd on skunk2s or ej's fd which is about the same drop, and the gap between wheel arch and tyres seem the same? .. anyone wanna help me out with choosing the set of springs to get lol?

[FallenAngel]

Its hard to say because each car may be the same they all will behave differently. Although just choose the one u like best (brand/cost etc..) and just go for that really..

[markCivicVti]

This place wants $750 to fit skunk2 springs to my car :( ... no way am I paying that for springs.

Now I either will go cheap coilovers or kings :(

[black8thgen]

wait, u can get springs from 999 auto for abt 400ish right? and since ur in brissie it shud be cheaper, im sure install cant cost ike 400 bucks....

[markCivicVti]

999 quoted me $760 to supply and fit and wheel alignment.

I dunno... sounds too much... I'm pretty sure they quoted me (before their skunk2 container came in feb) 550 incl supply and fit.

But yeah.. now I'm annoyed... might delay the loweing.. or get Kings... eithery way have a vented carbon fibre bonnet coming my way from taiwan :)

[black8thgen]

NICE. how big are the vents?! are they like rene's ones? nice and small? or a bit larger? and how much u get it for? (pm please =D).

sorry for the bombardment of questions =D.

and uhm yeah 760 sounds a lot... but maybe u could just get the springs off 999, and get it aligned and fitted somewhere else? im sure it cant be that much =/

[.k.]

can u pm me price and pic of bonnet too mark?

[dannybubu]

me 2 please!

[ekdez]

need some help choosing springs =/... the drop seems the same? wtf?!

the xx" drop is only an approximate...

it could be more then that xx" approximate..
or it could be less than the approximate..

either way.. save your money. springs aint worth it.

[.k.]

hey mark, have you had a look at king springs? i just asked on racenation and felix can get them for $369 shipped.. cant believe how much installation costs hey? if we both buy our springs im sure we can work out a place to do install and give us discount cos we'll be giving them 2 customers.. ^_^

[markCivicVti]

yeah .k. im keen

i remember a yr ago king springd were 400 supplied and fitted from jax... i just wanted to avoid kings... but now ill consider it

[aero]

hey mark, have you had a look at king springs? i just asked on racenation and felix can get them for $369 shipped.. cant believe how much installation costs hey? if we both buy our springs im sure we can work out a place to do install and give us discount cos we'll be giving them 2 customers.. ^_^

i thought u were saving for coilovers??? :p

[.k.]

haha i am and have the money waiting / coming from krudd but when i thnk about it.. 2k down the drain lol =\ whereas spend like 1/4ish ~500 or so i hope for springs and i'll jsut use oem shocks and get coils down the track.. i want too much other shit =P

g25 for my ps3 ohh yehh

mark - wtf 400 supplied and fitted? wow... can they get super/ultra low kings? do let me know :)

[jckidz]

Hey .k., I got my kings fitted about a year ago on my FD for $350. I guess the price has gone up yeah?

[.k.]

supply and fit for 350 dayum.. still cant get over it. racenation was 370 just for supply.. any1 got guestimates on how much install should be? like the max you would pay and what's a rip-off? i dunno how this new suspension is with the spring n shock are separate at the back so i dunno how to do diy =\

[Stig]

man, after installing the coils, i cant get my euro lux rims on... it hits the coils since the offset is +55... ARGHH!!! can even get my nkb elite 8 on too... -_- need spaces... really cbf atm, tempted to sell off the nkb now

[black8thgen]

what the hell =/. ouchhhh =[. what size are ur nkbs? and offset width? sorry to hear that buddy =[

[Stig]

20x8.5+45 Fronts
20x8.5+42 Rear

[JOhnnyFD]

check this out..

T1R coilovers for FD1 FD2
http://www.typeoneracing.com/catalog/product.php?productid=1309&cat=0&page=1

JDM Yard mayb supplying em

[ryanc]

20x8.5+45 Fronts
20x8.5+42 Rear

ouch no wonder.. massive

[ekdez]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110650

some new fd1 coils..

they sound cheap

[JOhnnyFD]

are daiyama's any good?.. those are cheap coilovers.. in terms of price.. wat about quality??

[aero]

has anyone seen this item for sale at 999 automotive?
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109780

they're skunk2 coilover sleeve kits.

are these some sort of cheaper alternative for full coilovers or something? does anybody know much about coilover sleeves? how's the handling and ride comfort from these?

[JOhnnyFD]

its like the full coilover setup minus the shock dampers.. could use ur oem shocks with these or upgrade em separately

[ekdez]

are daiyama's any good?.. those are cheap coilovers.. in terms of price.. wat about quality??

i googled them.. they look pretty average.
cheaper then d2 and ksports.. cant be that great.

[ekdez]

are these some sort of cheaper alternative for full coilovers or something? does anybody know much about coilover sleeves? how's the handling and ride comfort from these?

yes they are the cheaper alternative to coilovers.
they allow you to drop your ride according to how low you want it.
ride comfort depends on how low you go.

all in all your going to ruin your stock shocks.

[Waternmo]

has any body tried Koni yellows on their civics? or skunk 2 sport shocks? i want sumthin with lowering, and comfort!!!

[Stig]

has any body tried Koni yellows on their civics? or skunk 2 sport shocks? i want sumthin with lowering, and comfort!!!

just get tein ss, quite comfy

[Waternmo]

oh true! superstreet, how much are they in aus? and where can i get a set of them? thank you so much for ya suggestion mate, i'll look into that one!

[ekdez]

jdm yard has them on special for this month.

tein SS is very soft and wont slam your car much. i speak from experiance.

best bang for buck coilover is buddy club n+

other coilovers out there are overpriced.

but then gain .. its up to you. i like a harder ride then others, but that allows me to go low.

[Waternmo]

thx ekdez, i heard buddyclub n+ is not japan made anymore, adn tein SS is way over priced nowadays... 2.5k for a set... im lookin at dropping the car for 15 - 20mm, and want a balanced comfort and performance. have had JIC track spec in my old car, quite comfortable comparing to teins RA and BC racing spec, but im just over driving a "track car" on road everyday. thats y im lookin at koni, skunk2 and even mugen, they lower the car, and hav comfort + performance gain, most importantly cheaper than most coilovers, if i want harder/stiffer coilovers i can just order a set of BC from china and it'll be as stiff as buddyclub racing spec...

[Stig]

have you thought of tanabe? 1.5k from a trader on the forum, forgot whom, jdmconcept maybe?

[ekdez]

yeah, tein SS maybe expensive but its ADR approved..??
whereas the other coilovers arent..
i heard that jic makes coilovers for fd.
tanabe is meant to be soft too because the fd's we own over in jap, is a family car.. lol

all coilovers are gonna be made in different country to the design because they use parts which are always going to be the cheaper alternative... having said that, the warranty is still there to cover failure of a coil set =]

so i dunno.. i ended up getting n+.. just because it gave me that option street/road/track

[yagami]

I got Buddyclub N+ for my EP3, still waiting to put them in cause im getting a dent on my roof fixed. Some sob hit my car with something >=(

[Waternmo]

how much did u guys get N+ for? so i get a rough idea and dont get rip off by BC dealerships in brisbane hehe... thanks

[howy]

I got Buddyclub N+ for my EP3, still waiting to put them in cause im getting a dent on my roof fixed. Some sob hit my car with something >=(

ouch, sorry to hear about that.

man, hate those kinda people... low-life scum...

[ekdez]

im getting a dent on my roof fixed. Some sob hit my car with something >=(

join the club. someone ran over the top of mine. im never street parking anymore. i gotta fix my bonnet too sighs :\


how much did u guys get N+ for? so i get a rough idea and dont get rip off by BC dealerships in brisbane hehe... thanks

$2400-2600 for fd, "depends on exchange rates."

[Waternmo]

wow, whats with the price increase... when i bought coilovers for my old car, it was 1800 for JIC and around the same for cusco zero GT and BC racing spec....

[ekdez]

new car.

[Waternmo]

my mazda 3 was a new car too when i got those prices.... anywayz, thank you for everyone's help and suggestions!

[eeKayFouR]

its k again - trader called pro-racing or something will be getting daiyama coilovers in and they'll cost 1500 delivered anywhere in aus thought i'd give a heads-up :)

anyone using / had experience with daiyama before?

[Waternmo]

hey K, if u r in Brisbane, go hav a speak to 999 and they can get u K sport for around the same price, they hav similar specs too... if both of them are TW brands, then its more than likely they get their parts from the same factory, like D2, G4 and Racing Logic have their parts made in the same factory but selling them at diff prices...

[.k.]

yeh im from bris and have talked to them, adam gave me a quote a while back on all the different types of coilovers he can get and how much + info like spring rates / how many levels of dampening etc etc

are you going to get coilovers for your car?

and anyone had any experience with daiyama coilovers? - good / bad?

[Waternmo]

yea i will be gettin sum for my car but probably not coilovers again... i want sumthin to lower the car + extra performance but i really want comfort! so im looking at Koni yellow now...

[.k.]

full koni setup? shocks and springs? whats the drop with the koni springs

[.k.]

and how much u get your bc n+ for ekdez?

atm either thinking of - save money and get only springs prolly king superlow

or get coilover sleeve kit and find shocks (dunno what shocks are out there) or just get coilovers, daiyama is cheap but dunno if they good? or ksport or cusco zero gt .. dunno which/what to do

[JOhnnyFD]

cusco zero gt :thumbsup:

[.k.]

how much u pick those up for johnny?

[black8thgen]

johnny u got em installed yet? PICS!!!

[.k.]

hey how much do those d2 coilovers go for too? im trying to narrow my list down :)
i think a couple of yuo guys are running d2 yeah?

[howy]

hey how much do those d2 coilovers go for too? im trying to narrow my list down :)
i think a couple of yuo guys are running d2 yeah?

ej20i, me_kevinly and i think FallenAngel are running them atm...

they could probably give you more info about the d2 coilovers :)

[FallenAngel]

D2's are pretty decent for the price, i think they're worth about 1400ish or so. They're quite soft and can take a beating on the track

[JOhnnyFD]

how much u pick those up for johnny?

i got tanabe sustec pro-nf, but i had my eye on the cusco zero gt before.. think 999 in sellin em for 2100


johnny u got em installed yet? PICS!!!

this weekend

[me_kevinly]

d2 are great value for money
that if you want comfort and looks
but i dun think they do well for track.

[.k.]

true, 1400 new or .. ? I mainly want dumpability, to be able to go low and maintain somewhat comfort. How low can u go on them and can someone link me to a trader/website that sells them?