rolling the front guards?

[BRU51N]

hey guys,

im sure theres a few of you's out there with pretty slammed cars.

im wondering if any of you guys have rolled your front guards, if you have, did u remove the plastic splash guards?

because if u roll the metal, the plastic wont have anything to hang on to.

im in desperate need of getting it done, and want to see how others have handled rolling of the front guards.

my tyres are about 1" in the guards at the fronts, the driver side has semi-rolled the guards outwards, and the passenger side has fully rolled out by the tyres (looks totally ugly and cutting into my tyres when i turn)
i would like to retain my height as it seems the perfect height at the moment.

thanks,
willy

[.::F[L]Y::.]

id like to know as well. getting sick of using 215/35/18 for the fronts :(

[vyets]

lol all i did was bend the clips up and zip tie the splash guards to the hole, works fine for more no more rubbing :)

[DNTBLO_S2k]

i got my gaurds rolled and pumped out abut a inch. i use 215/35 series tyres. took that plastic out.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

dntblo_s2k: did that mean you had to get the fenders resprayed? im guessing QSR did this?

[AusS2000]

I'm running 225/40-18s at the front. 265/35-18 at the rear.

No rolling, no rubbing.

But my wheels are the correct offset.

[-parkes-]

^^

:rolleyes: well that's not what he is asking now is it?

would you like a pat on your back or maybe a sticker for your forehead?

[AusS2000]

Nah, I'm good thanks.

[-parkes-]

:zip: :D

[vyets]

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/568/cookie6qo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[aznsiko]

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/568/cookie6qo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


LOL!!!!:)

[DNTBLO_S2k]

depends on how good there done, they heat the gaurds up and pump them, if the paint cracks then u have to spray it, depends how good the person is whos doing it.

[AusS2000]

:rolleyes: well that's not what he is asking now is it?

My point is, why do panel work so you can run ill fitting 215s when with the correct offset you can run 225s.

[vyets]

Because sometimes "correct" offsets dont look so "correct"

[DNTBLO_S2k]

yeh thats tru, ihad got a set of dish rims correct offset and they didnt look so correct.

[AusS2000]

Perhaps you bought the wrong car.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

is there any particular reasons why our cars came with such weak offsets?

[beeza]

The ghetto style of doing it is to put a baseball bat between the tyre and fender and slowly creep forward.I would imagine you would have to respray.

[AusS2000]

Y::.;1641850']is there any particular reasons why our cars came with such weak offsets?

Because it was designed as a sportscar not a ricemobile.

The designers were more concerned with how it handles than how much 'fully sik dish' they could get.

[beeza]

hehehe

[vyets]

Yes... and they made widebody's on jgtc cars to run super wide rims and super low offsets to "look good" lol.

[AusS2000]

The S2000 is not a JGTC car and it doesn't drive on JGTC tracks.

[vyets]

LOL! I know this is getting out of hand but...

J's Racing S2000? ASM, Seeker. them offsets sure dont look high at all.

[ludecrs]

The joys of being away for a little over a week.

What an enjoyful thread.

On topic: Few have sucessfully done this, be it cutting them up, or rollung them - the choice is yours.

Myself, I'm a believer the guards are certainly wide enough and big enough as they are. I'm not a fan of any of the widebody kits out there (exception of the Amuse GT1 modded kit which blends much more smoother) because I think wider guards look crap, since they are so huge to begin with.

I'm with Aus on this one.

[vyets]

i never said wide guards look good =x

[beeza]

I've only seen it on one car that looked good a BMW Z3.

[AusS2000]

Taking to a Z3 with a baseball bat could only improve it's looks.

[ludecrs]

Wait til you try telling that to Fisty......

[beeza]

Taking to a Z3 with a baseball bat could only improve it's looks.

Nice one ;)

[.::F[L]Y::.]

each to their own. Thats why some of the cars on s2ki look so good. They are willing to run the most aggressive offsets possible. Rather than playing it safe and running standard offsets.

[vyets]

looks the good, and offers the grip too! can't go wrong

[AusS2000]

Looks are subjective. Grip is not.

Why do you think a more aggressive offset offers more grip?

I mean rolled guards and 215 tyres (and I'm expecting not the best tyres either) might look good in your opinion but I doubt they are going to offer more grip than my set up.

[ludecrs]

Y::.;1643007']each to their own. Thats why some of the cars on s2ki look so good. They are willing to run the most aggressive offsets possible. Rather than playing it safe and running standard offsets.

The only car that comes to mind is the NFR owned by IIQK4U, and his new setup is crap in comparision with his old setup of BBS LM's, which co-incidentally, were a standardish offset set-up.

[AusS2000]

The real problem with 'aggressive' offsets is that they move the pivot point of the front wheels inward. Or more easy to understand, the centre line of the wheel no longer sits over the pivot point but moves outwards.

This means that when you turn the steering wheel the inboard wheel moves backwards and the outboard wheel moves forwards. Also, when the wheel strikes a bump it has a lever effect and you feel it through the steering wheel.

Hey, but it looks fully hectik!

[vyets]

Well people tend to roll their guards to run fatter tyres, not for dish, who gives a fk about dish.
Lipping/Rolling/Pumping the guards allows you to run, Fatter tyres, Lower offset for scrub radius. With a Lower offset rim you can also run more negative camber, have a wider footprint which means more stability. And on top of it all it does look "fully hectik".

[AusS2000]

Well people tend to roll their guards to run fatter tyres

Which goes back to my original post (which you rubbished).

I am running wider tyres than most here with no lipping or rubbing by running correct offsets.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

maybe your car isnt low enough then. thats why it dosnt look fully sick. im running the rite offset aswell but when you go low enough then your tyres seem to scrub, thats why you just lip your gaurds and then all is fine.
i like the stretched out look on the tyre than having 18 inch wheels with widder tyres look too fully sick to me.

[AusS2000]

So you're suggesting I lower my car until it scrubs, then roll the guards. :D

Seems we have different automotive tastes, but at least you admit it's all about looks and not about handling.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

mate its only a s2000 not a track machine. i dont track this and never would.
car handles well and fine with my wheels. its a car that dosnt have high performance and never will, even if you turbo or supercharge it, what to get only 250kw max? anyway his question was how he went about getting his gaurds lipped so no nead to be fully hecktik now.

[AusS2000]

mate its only a s2000 not a track machine. i dont track this and never would.

Well that's where we differ.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

shure do.

[ludecrs]

mate its only a s2000 not a track machine. i dont track this and never would.
car handles well and fine with my wheels. its a car that dosnt have high performance and never will, even if you turbo or supercharge it, what to get only 250kw max? anyway his question was how he went about getting his gaurds lipped so no nead to be fully hecktik now.

There's 600hp S2K's out there in the States.
Some go even further and do a 2jz conversion.
Some go the Comptech S/c route and get nearly 500hp ATW.

;)

[mugsee]

Lipping and rolling guards can be functional, if done for the right reasons - ie. fitting 17x9's all around, like the J's Racing S2000.

Even when running a much larger rim, more aggressive offsets are generally not used, supporting AusS2000's comment about not needing to run more aggressive offsets.

[Smooov]

Had them flaired out when i re-sprayed it cherry black.. worked out

[ludecrs]

Your S is no longer blue?

[martin]

mate its only a s2000 not a track machine. i dont track this and never would.
car handles well and fine with my wheels. its a car that dosnt have high performance and never will, even if you turbo or supercharge it, what to get only 250kw max? anyway his question was how he went about getting his gaurds lipped so no nead to be fully hecktik now.

i like the way you've done your S big fat 20's and dumping it, not like every other tom, dick and harry on here putting little 17in lightweight jap wheels that weigh next to nothing and complaining about ohh my car scrubs this that. :thumbsup: to how you done your car but not really feeling your wheels if it was me id dump them on 20 alba blvds :cool:

as for the thread starter, s2000s dont really have a lip along the front guard same goes for most cars so i dont get how u can really lip it or roll it back, you can certainly roll the rear back because theres a fat lip coming out off the quarter skin. what you can also do is pump out the front guards and getting rid of the inner guard linning you dont really need that.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

dont worry martin alba blvds are comming in 2weeks budy.

[ludecrs]

damn blingin' ballers. :p

[AusS2000]

It's good the ALBAs have come down in price. Now everyone can be unique.

[krogoth]

maybe your car isnt low enough then. thats why it dosnt look fully sick. im running the rite offset aswell but when you go low enough then your tyres seem to scrub, thats why you just lip your gaurds and then all is fine.
i like the stretched out look on the tyre than having 18 inch wheels with widder tyres look too fully sick to me.


mate its only a s2000 not a track machine. i dont track this and never would.
car handles well and fine with my wheels. its a car that dosnt have high performance and never will, even if you turbo or supercharge it, what to get only 250kw max? anyway his question was how he went about getting his gaurds lipped so no nead to be fully hecktik now.

lol.....

i dont have an s2k, and i find ur comments about the s2k a little insulting

mate, clearly u prefer the bling/rice look, and thats fine, ur car, do wat u like, i happen to detest that look, but good on u for doing wat u like to ur car

but dont go around saying the s2k is not a track machine, u dont have a clue wat ur car used to be capable of....the s2k is known for having one of the best track setups....it can take on cars with much higher power outputs in the right track

and 250kw is a little is it??????????

this shows how little u know about track racing, there arent many cars that can securely and reliably put down more than 250kw atw on track without running off the track on every corner, so really when u start getting anymore power than that, it becomes a drag racer rather than a track car


Because it was designed as a sportscar not a ricemobile.

The designers were more concerned with how it handles than how much 'fully sik dish' they could get.


I'm running 225/40-18s at the front. 265/35-18 at the rear.

No rolling, no rubbing.

But my wheels are the correct offset.

thank goodness for a bit of sense in this thread

u cant just go around making massive changes with offset, problems will arise over time


^^

:rolleyes: well that's not what he is asking now is it?

would you like a pat on your back or maybe a sticker for your forehead?

it doesnt matter wat the OP is asking

AUSs2000 is simply stating the correct way of changing ur wheels

u cant go from say +55, to say +35 without all kinds of problems...

[AusS2000]

^ I like this guy.

[amirul]

i rolled my guard with inner plastics guard still intact and running 225/30/20 without any problem even @ full-lock.

[martin]

dont worry martin alba blvds are comming in 2weeks budy.

good man, show us some pics once there on. ive always loved alba blvds, especially on s2000s and accord euros. have you seen 2sus white accord euro dumped on 20 alba blvds? looks clean as. mohammed from queens had a white one dumped on albas as well. i was going to grab some albas for my white s2000 but ended up keeping it stock but dumping my yellow s on stockers on its ass.

[ludecrs]

^ I like this guy.

Seems you spend more time here than S2ki these days :p

[AusS2000]

How would you know.

[revolution]

lol.....

i dont have an s2k, and i find ur comments about the s2k a little insulting

mate, clearly u prefer the bling/rice look, and thats fine, ur car, do wat u like, i happen to detest that look, but good on u for doing wat u like to ur car

but dont go around saying the s2k is not a track machine, u dont have a clue wat ur car used to be capable of....the s2k is known for having one of the best track setups....it can take on cars with much higher power outputs in the right track

and 250kw is a little is it??????????

this shows how little u know about track racing, there arent many cars that can securely and reliably put down more than 250kw atw on track without running off the track on every corner, so really when u start getting anymore power than that, it becomes a drag racer rather than a track car





thank goodness for a bit of sense in this thread

u cant just go around making massive changes with offset, problems will arise over time



it doesnt matter wat the OP is asking

AUSs2000 is simply stating the correct way of changing ur wheels

u cant go from say +55, to say +35 without all kinds of problems...

Well put :thumbsup:

[DNTBLO_S2k]

hey krogoth 250 is little but like was said before im different to the hektik auss200 dont use it for track cause thats too booring. maybe get a s then start commenting on them. s is a slow car ill leave it to that. you want big power get a rotar. u want a real jdm car get a nsx.
yeh the albas are comming cheap but thats the immitation there mate. so you stay unique with your 18s like everyother jdm whore.
not saying that i hate the jdm look but flys and ludecrs cars are a good example.

[martin]

hey DNTBLO did you order your albas from tempe? i called around for them a little while back and tempe seems to be the only place that can stll get there hands on them. seems like there becoming discontinued.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

nah man tempes are imitations, bigo got the reall ones and so do top ten.

[martin]

ohkay sweet. still deciding wether to put 20s on or leaving them dumped on stockers. but one problem i get with the s2000s is that te undercarriage is just way too low, when u dumped them low enough every where you go the exaust or the side seal panel rubs, scrubs, drags and scraps everywheerreeee. but they look mad when they're dumped!

[revolution]

....im different to the hektik auss200 dont use it for track cause thats too booring.....

Try changing ur sex spec wheels, go on track and report back. What would you consider 'hektik'? Victory laps around George St?

[DNTBLO_S2k]

yeh man i get sparks all the time at night. oh well probally up for a new exhaust soon. just put some ankors on it bro so everyone can hate you. its the best

[DNTBLO_S2k]

all ready dont it revolution. its so booring in a slow s2k. rather do it in a series 8 rx7 or even a toyota sprinter wich were more fun.

[vyets]

what :( have u even been in a stock sprinter.. something is seriously wrong with your s2000 if you think a sprinter is faster or even more "fun".

If you wana go low without your undercarrage scraping then rock big slug low bodykits like the nissans, dont even have to slam it and your kit is scraping the ground, only bad thing is that massive wheel gap you`ll have lol.


every tom dick and harry thats funny caus i think im just about the ONLY s2000 in my area with 17's and there's quite afew yet they all say its "unique" and never have any of the jdm boys claimed to be unique btw.

I think it's about time this thread has gotten closed,

[martin]

nah i like to tuck my wheels dont like no body kits or any other fancy things like that. only thing i might get on the s2000's are the oem front lip side strakes and oem rear wing thats as far as ill go with cosmetics other then that. just dump it on its ass

[krogoth]

hey krogoth 250 is little but like was said before im different to the hektik auss200 dont use it for track cause thats too booring. maybe get a s then start commenting on them. s is a slow car ill leave it to that. you want big power get a rotar. u want a real jdm car get a nsx.
yeh the albas are comming cheap but thats the immitation there mate. so you stay unique with your 18s like everyother jdm whore.
not saying that i hate the jdm look but flys and ludecrs cars are a good example.


all ready dont it revolution. its so booring in a slow s2k. rather do it in a series 8 rx7 or even a toyota sprinter wich were more fun.

??????????

i still dont get how u consider the s2k slow.........

ive been in an s2k numerous times, and it is not slow

u think its slow probably because u granny drive evrywhere because ur so worried about scraping ur oversized wheels or scraping the bum of ur car or bodykit going over a bump let alone a speed hump....

get in a stock s2k with som1 who can really drive it..maybe that will change ur impression, because ive been in an s2k, and it wasnt a slow cruise either....

and i didnt find it slow at all...only som1 with an m3 or a gtr or something like that that has been driving it for a long time and suddenly jumps into an s2k will find it slow...

sure its not the fastest car around, no, but u cant call it slow either...ive had a mate with a 200atw kw s15 sell his silvia because he wanted an s2k because he thought it was an overall better setup than his s15...

[DNTBLO_S2k]

yeh same hate the kits just like em plain simple and tucking.
yeh had a sprinter was quicker then my s2k. its a shame but its true. stock is a different thing there, your talking about the aus model carby one probally?
mine was supercharged.

[vyets]

lol a 4agze beat u around the track =x
i have much respect for the 86's but a stock one against a stock s2000 and you lost, no wonder you dont like the track lol.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

dont tell me how to drive. i give it hell mate dont you worry. just saying there slow compared to allot of cars. like i said if you havnt owned it then you wont know. ive came from a 11sec vl turbo to this and its slow. my mates got a 600hp rx7 now thats not slow. or mates 100hp bmw. not 150 kw stuff. lear how to drive? lear how to own one then you can drive.

[vyets]

i never said learn to drive mate, lol. Yea of corse an 11second VL is fast noone said that would be slow, but line it up against a stock s2000 on a tight technical track or on the mountains and it will give the vl a run for its money. Of corse line up the s2000 on a drag strip and what happens then you would know. Everyone knows a s2000 is friggin slow lol but ur making it sound like its a Prius.

Why is a nsx a real jdm car? Compare it too the cars you stated above it would be considered as "slow" as well.
JDM cars are any cars made in japan obviously, what is this real and fake shit lol

[revolution]

all ready dont it revolution. its so booring in a slow s2k. rather do it in a series 8 rx7 or even a toyota sprinter wich were more fun.

:confused: I have driven a sprinter, a silver top 20v engine conversion and although it was great to drive I don't consider it more fun than a S2000.

Learn how to drive and setup the car properly and try again.

In case I missed it, what is the specs of your sex spec wheels? What suspension setup? Judging from your avatar, I am presuming if you go at speed and hit some rough roads your fender is gone after that.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

hey yvets that wasnt to you, wot disagree with you on the turns but thats all i was saying, its slow but good in turns. still a nice car. ive just got different styled wheels

revolution, learn how to set the car up, its stock! maybe you need to learn how to drive. ive taken this on rough roads and i got no problems and dont really care about my wheels stuffing up. rough roads, were arnt they.

[martin]

s2000s are good around turns not the best out there but id say very goood considering its a rwd car, ive seen plenty of fwd guys jump in s2000s and other high powered rwd cars and punching them around corners and not knowing what to do when the ass end kicks out, so overall s2000s are a neat little package but you gota learn how to drive the thing and handle it around corners.

but imo if i was to build a track monster id build a dc2r from scratch, or if i was to build a drag monster, id build a sr,rb or a rotory from scratch and dropping it straight in a light weight chassis car thats perfect for the drags.

[vyets]

Here comes the arguments about fwd vs rwd now lol.

all i can say is, if the dc2r is the quickest handling car for the fwd army, then they're in trouble lol

[Zilli]

It's good the ALBAs have come down in price. Now everyone can be unique.

ROFLMFAO

[revolution]

hey yvets that wasnt to you, wot disagree with you on the turns but thats all i was saying, its slow but good in turns. still a nice car. ive just got different styled wheels

revolution, learn how to set the car up, its stock! maybe you need to learn how to drive. ive taken this on rough roads and i got no problems and dont really care about my wheels stuffing up. rough roads, were arnt they.

So is the sex spec MCB in your avatar your car? The S2K is known to have crappy torque and is not quick in a straight line no doubts about that. That's expected when you buy the car.

What is a little worrying is that you find it boring to drive around a track. It's a well balanced car with good power for a 2.0 N/A and if driven properly around a tight circuit like wakefield park is quick for a stock car.

Is your car's handling even on par with a stock S2000 with the sex spec going on there? To each their own. If your proud of it then good for you :thumbsup:

Edit: Getting back on topic, why not get wheels that actually fit? Why go through rolling your fenders, cutting etc to get hekktic - oh sorry 'unique' looking wheels to fit. S2K's and 'unique' wheel prices are going down these days so we'll be seing more hekktics on the street with 22' spinning wheels doing victory laps around George St on Saturday nights.

[DNTBLO_S2k]

yeh thats my car im proud of it but its just my daily run around not my track car. i like high powered cars for the track but then again you got dieffered taste to me. i dont like to track, id prefer drag or just for fun a bit a sideways on the track.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

its funny though. i have yet to see an evo 9 rolling on chromes. I mean they put chromes on STI's and that but i havnt seen an evo molested yet...

[ludecrs]

ok guys, lets just turn down the thread just a tone.

Everyone has different tastes with the S2000.

You have your Sex spec [Sonny, Amirul] , your JDM [Vyets, Jon], and then you have the combination of both [that would me be].

Different opinions from different backgrounds are always going to emerge, there's no need for such e-arguments.

[ludecrs]

How would you know.

Where do you think I still get all my parts from? lol :p

[DNTBLO_S2k]

So is the sex spec MCB in your avatar your car? The S2K is known to have crappy torque and is not quick in a straight line no doubts about that. That's expected when you buy the car.

What is a little worrying is that you find it boring to drive around a track. It's a well balanced car with good power for a 2.0 N/A and if driven properly around a tight circuit like wakefield park is quick for a stock car.

Is your car's handling even on par with a stock S2000 with the sex spec going on there? To each their own. If your proud of it then good for you :thumbsup:

Edit: Getting back on topic, why not get wheels that actually fit? Why go through rolling your fenders, cutting etc to get hekktic - oh sorry 'unique' looking wheels to fit. S2K's and 'unique' wheel prices are going down these days so we'll be seing more hekktics on the street with 22' spinning wheels doing victory laps around George St on Saturday nights.


my wheels fit fine are you farked in the head or something? why dont u meet me on george st this sat night and tell me n person whats wrong with my car. and ill see if i can fix your head for you and you can bring yours out so i can burn it with you in it, or why dont you post a pic of it, so i can start to mock your car.do u even have a car or you just hidding behind you computer like a little bitch?? ill be there so keep a look out and make shure you pull me over.

[aaronng]

That's enough... since you are not discussing the thread topic anymore, this thread is CLOSED.