2 days old fd1 got bang... not my fault, any experts here can quote the damage? FIXED

[tokyonite]

wheel bend little bit inward, passenger door need to be replaced..

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[tokyonite]

the guy at the workshop promised me they will replace everything with new part, even a single tiny scratch, they'll replace it with new part. However, i am not sure about the shaft, since front left wheel bend little bit inward.... what do you guyz think? i am scared that they'll somehow repair the damage part and sell the new parts cliamed from insurance. omg doggy.

[Alpine]

Yikes.....such bad luck, I feel your pain. 2 Day old brand new car too, that totally sucks. Sorry to hear your bad news. :(

[tokyonite]

hey guyz,
do you guyz reckon it is reasonalbe for me to request the workshop to keep the damage parts so that i can have a look at it when i pick up my car.. since i am not sure if my car is in a doggy workshop or not..hahah (although it is aami qualified reparier). i still don't trust them...

[blk_shadow]

they might get a quote on fender, front bar, door skin, rims, headlight (maybe), inner guard liner and the clips, side repeaters, and mudguard (maybe), plus respray. it can be a good $2K

best thing is to ask for a breakdown detail of what's being fixed or replaced. and ask another workshop to check it whether its true or not

thing about panel shops are, they're trying to gain profit from a highly pressed margin by the insurance company. so, most of the time, they will get a quote first, then if they feel like they can't make a good profit from it, then they will fix it, instead of replacing it.

[JasonGilholme]

fark some people need to learn to stand up for themselves!!! Grow some balls.

If your worried make requests as its your car, and your money.

If you want, get another opinion from another mechanic/certified repairer. you can always ask your insurer questions as well.

at the end of the day its your car, your money and your safety at stake. so its pointless holding back because you afriad of being embarrassed. I'd rather have a little embarrasement and know that i've got a safe car and haven't been ripped off.

[tokyonite]

fark some people need to learn to stand up for themselves!!! Grow some balls.

If your worried make requests as its your car, and your money.

If you want, get another opinion from another mechanic/certified repairer. you can always ask your insurer questions as well.

at the end of the day its your car, your money and your safety at stake. so its pointless holding back because you afriad of being embarrassed. I'd rather have a little embarrasement and know that i've got a safe car and haven't been ripped off.

:cool: i have never had an accident before, so somehow no idea to all this. lol. anyway, i have called up the workshop and request to keep the damage parts. best i can do. everytime i called up, they simply guarentee here guarentee there, what can i do? lol wait till the car is fixed then i'll post the feedback up.

ps, quote damage $8000 include labour.

[JaCe]

^ Ouch that's like a third of the cost of the car ><

[Jo_e]

LOL damn you jace i was just gonna say that.
its 1/3 of the car. thats a ridiculous price.

[tokyonite]

LOL damn you jace i was just gonna say that.
its 1/3 of the car. thats a ridiculous price.


rediculous price mean? gd or bad... gd = replace everything with new parts. will sell it when it is fixed. Anyway, it was an old man holding P license who bang my civic....

[blk_shadow]

rediculous price mean? gd or bad... gd = replace everything with new parts. will sell it when it is fixed. Anyway, it was an old man holding P license who bang my civic....

I reckon that's a ridiculous bad. but being a new car and labour included, that is still a bit believable. but again, ridiculous.

[shadou]

looks like what I did, that totaled to a repair bill of around $2,500 (mainly on the left side, not the front though).
I don't think they'll do any dodgy work on the vehicle, the aim is to get the vehicle back to the original state as it was prior to the accident, it's inspected after it gets back to the workshop from the repairer and given a detail (usually, do not quote me; this was from my experience from scraping a particular Civic).

[destrukshn]

the list as of follows, as what i can see really subject to a personal inspection
headlight
guard
guard liner
wheel
door skin/shell
front bar brackets
front bar
hub and bearing
knuckle
control arms
strut

some of the suspension parts may be retrievable, but that's what would probably qoute.
a new car like that, they will replace all the panels with new ones.
most insurance panel beaters, don't panel beat no more, they actually like replacing things, which is a good, thing. if your car is going through insurance.
lol

[Jo_e]

$8000 is ridiculous bad.
Get a new bumper imported or wateva and thats DEFINITELY less than a $1000.
Even Honda!Something like INGs or even the FD2R would also be cool =P
So 2 panels $7000 = wtf?

EDIT//
referring to a personal accident.
I replaced bumper, bonnet headlights, respray, install everything...under $2000.

[h22a accord]

Car companies dont make money on the sale of the car. They get them out onto the streets and wait for ppl to bang them up and then cash in on the seeling of spare parts.

[blk_shadow]

Car companies dont make money on the sale of the car. They get them out onto the streets and wait for ppl to bang them up and then cash in on the seeling of spare parts.

no, sales and parts are two different departments.

even tho, eventually all of the incomes are combined and going to the owner. but both departments have to make profit and have goals on their own.

[kraiye]

whos paying for the repairs?
if it's insurance does it really matter how much it costs?

[denot]

dang thats beat my 4 days record!!! :p bad luck mate!!!

also, if its paid by insurance (especially NRMA) they wont change the bumper with new one, the smash repair will tell you they will change everything with the new parts (they even write down on the quotation) but after you agree with them and they contact Insurance company for inspection, they will say "oh your insurance company doesnt agree with our quotation to replace it." anyway, gl on fixing it! mine is on the smash repair atm (my 3rd time after 1.5 years owning the car!!! - and yeah, all not my fault) cant wait to get it back ASAP...

[ahmondjai]

When mine got banged, I thought it was soon enough already, being 1 mth old. look at here, 4 days....no, 2 DAYS, so careless~~

[teaseR]

it would never be the same.............................................. ...........
















WHO CARES.............. a car is there to be driven. cant expect to have it like brand new condition. and plus insurance is paying anyway. the repairers will try to make the most profit they can from the insurance

[JaCe]

^ I agree. I've come to accept the fact my daily driver has knocks and scratches on it anyway.

Hence the plan to find a weekend car to keep in pristine condition :)

[denot]

Hence the plan to find a weekend car to keep in pristine condition :)

let us keep our finger cross JaCe!!! Still wanna get DC5R/S one day for weekends :p

[philBo]

fark some people need to learn to stand up for themselves!!! Grow some balls.

If your worried make requests as its your car, and your money.

If you want, get another opinion from another mechanic/certified repairer. you can always ask your insurer questions as well.

at the end of the day its your car, your money and your safety at stake. so its pointless holding back because you afriad of being embarrassed. I'd rather have a little embarrasement and know that i've got a safe car and haven't been ripped off.

damn straight! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[civic_07]

WTF, 2 days! $8000, I feel for you :(

[tokyonite]

fark some people need to learn to stand up for themselves!!! Grow some balls.

If your worried make requests as its your car, and your money.

If you want, get another opinion from another mechanic/certified repairer. you can always ask your insurer questions as well.

at the end of the day its your car, your money and your safety at stake. so its pointless holding back because you afriad of being embarrassed. I'd rather have a little embarrasement and know that i've got a safe car and haven't been ripped off.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: more? :zip:

[tokyonite]

dang thats beat my 4 days record!!! :p bad luck mate!!!

also, if its paid by insurance (especially NRMA) they wont change the bumper with new one, the smash repair will tell you they will change everything with the new parts (they even write down on the quotation) but after you agree with them and they contact Insurance company for inspection, they will say "oh your insurance company doesnt agree with our quotation to replace it." anyway, gl on fixing it! mine is on the smash repair atm (my 3rd time after 1.5 years owning the car!!! - and yeah, all not my fault) cant wait to get it back ASAP...

who can break my record? ?:( (finger cross)

hey mate, how long did it take to fix ur car + all da insurance procedures? ...mine going to take minimum 2 weeks... just called up, quote increased to $8500

[denot]

who can break my record? ?:( (finger cross)

hey mate, how long did it take to fix ur car + all da insurance procedures? ...mine going to take minimum 2 weeks... just called up, quote increased to $8500

mine takes a few days only... and yeah they do a very crap job!!! (Honda Specialist my A*S!!!!). So when I come back to them again, they keep on saying "Ok we fix it, but we're bussy at the moment... we'll call u when we ready" blablabla... I call NRMA, but becoz I choose the repairer myself (yupz my bad on this one) so they cant help with this.

procedure is simple:
1. ring NRMA/Insurance comp
2. bring the car into their yard for inspection
3. choose the recommended repairer (or pick your own)
4. you can leave the car there, bring it to the selected repairer, or if you choose your own you might need to firstly bring in to the repairer for the NRMA + repairer to discuss the quote, then after that you can bring it in again to be fix (i kno its a hassle, but if you know a very good repairer dont settle with the one that NRMA provide - they're crap)

Hope this help...

[abzndintegra]

i always thought if the car was less than 2 years old they replace it with new one if it gets damaged

[vippy84]

They will always replace it with brand new ones.. as long as your car is still in mint condition and not too old.. my 2002 integra was hit by a P driver lady and I wanted them to replace the damaged parts with brand new ones.. and they did.. it cost the insurance heaps of money.. :P

also.. do what 'denot' said... just bring your car for repair in an approved repairer.. like in Adelaide.. RAA is usually the most reliable one.. I went to RAA approved repairer only.. I dont know about the repairer in your area though..

It wil take a while for you till you get back your car.. but if you go to a big repairer, you will be lent a car till you get your car back!!!

[abzndintegra]

i meant replace the whole car!

not the parts

i.e. its part of the insurance policy for new cars u really shoul dread ur policy

[tokyonite]

i meant replace the whole car!

not the parts

i.e. its part of the insurance policy for new cars u really shoul dread ur policy

replace da whole car if it's quote as "written off" . i dun think the insurance will replace the whole car within 2 years period, which insurance company u with?

[ahmondjai]

I'm curious to know also, as far as I know, you can replace with OEM parts due to warranty stuff, but whole car?? add it to the wishlist~

[dmx]

ouch!!!....bad damage mate
my bro LC just hit the tree, and they changed the whole door and fender due to badly damage and cheaper for them just replace to new ones (labour cost is not cheap here). U can see they change or just fixed (putty).
easiest way, just knocking, and hear the thickness of ur "new" door.
if thin as metal sound means new. but if thick, means they put some putty and re-paint

[ahmondjai]

last time, when they fixed my Jazz's door, they changed to (I doubt) second hand door instead of new door, the edges are sharp somehow, I don't know why..

[denot]

I think they will not change the bumpers (plastics) but might change the doors, 1/4 panel, etc. Also, you can get a brand new car replacement if your car is less than 2 years old and written off... if its more than 2 years and got written off, the insurance will pay out money not a new car...

[tokyonite]

Guyz, i'll post the before & after Pics when i got da car back this friday. :D. will sell it in less then a month.

[ahmondjai]

I think they will not change the bumpers (plastics) but might change the doors, 1/4 panel, etc. Also, you can get a brand new car replacement if your car is less than 2 years old and written off... if its more than 2 years and got written off, the insurance will pay out money not a new car...

I'm with AAMI, and I think they will only do that if it's under 1 year old. which company are you guys with?

[denot]

I'm with AAMI, and I think they will only do that if it's under 1 year old. which company are you guys with?

NRMA, and I make sure its 2 years old when I renew my policy before. a bit resistance at first but in the end they approve my request :p

[tokyonite]

how do they fixed it if the wheel is bended inward? any idea? thanks

[denot]

how do they fixed it if the wheel is bended inward? any idea? thanks

replaced with the new one... mine has "gutter scratch" on one of the wheels becoz of the accident, and NRMA gave me a new one... I got a spare 16" wheel now!!

[tokyonite]

fa*K, i haven't got the car back yet.... the workshop promised me that i'll be able to get the car (they'll fixed it) on last friday 2nd/May, then they rang me up and told me that the assesor needed to look at the car so it was delayed to monday 5th/May, and FARK i received a called from them again, they told me the assesor (allians insurance) changed the date to wednesday 7th/May. FARK what is going on?

one more thing, i called da workshop this mnorning and told them i would like to inspect the car since they said it was FIXED and waiting for the assesor, I WAS DECLINED, they told me not to come. WTF.

bloody doggy workshop , slow pace crap.

let's see if i will get my car back on wednesday.

[Rice_4_life]

start complaining, it'll get you free shit. Services, maybe accessories, ect.
It's a disgrace that they dog you around on something that was not your fault.

[warwick108]

do u go to la trobe? ive seen a banged one just like that.. lol..

[denot]

tokyonite, do you go with your insurance company smash repair? or you choose your own? if its from the insurance company, then they're dodgy... I think the assessor came already on 5th May, but then he saw something that can be fixed without replacing but the smash repair already replace it with new parts. so then the smash repair need to remove the new parts and just fix the old one for you. :(

[SiReal]

mate, this is your car. you gotta get some balls and go down there demanding what is going on with your car. we were in a minor bingle recently. got the car back in less than a week. this was through insurance as well. if you need another workshop that is quick and honest, let me know. im in melb.

[Dreams]

I wouldn't call up and tell Ill be coming down just to have a looksy.
just rock up mate. see what shits is he on about. sounds dodgy, seems that hes the one that puling the time away.

[kraiye]

dude if it's your insurance co's mechanic, call them and have a go at em (actually you should call them either way!). go down there and speak to them face to face and demand to see the car. i'm not a mechanic but i can't see any legit reason why they want to stop you seeing your own car. hard to refuse you if you're there in person.
keep your cool but be firm!!

[disappointed]

For workshop insurance reasons he may not be allowed into the workshop.

[tokyonite]

i am going to speak to a family friend lawyer today, fark man, i have been without a car for almost 5 weeks and yet no rental car was provided till last week. the workshop told me they can only provide 1 week rental car, thatz it. wtf. Going to get my car back tomorrow, i'll check it with da damage parts they promised to keep it for me to see. should i fark the workshop or the insurance company? FARK!

[tokyonite]

:zip:
mate, this is your car. you gotta get some balls and go down there demanding what is going on with your car. we were in a minor bingle recently. got the car back in less than a week. this was through insurance as well. if you need another workshop that is quick and honest, let me know. im in melb.


back in less than a week?....wow thats quick. saw the photo i posted? the workshop said they had to replace the suspension, etc etc, so i consider my situation is not a minor damage..

mind pm me da workshop u mentioned? thanks

[denot]

i am going to speak to a family friend lawyer today, fark man, i have been without a car for almost 5 weeks and yet no rental car was provided till last week. the workshop told me they can only provide 1 week rental car, thatz it. wtf. Going to get my car back tomorrow, i'll check it with da damage parts they promised to keep it for me to see. should i fark the workshop or the insurance company? FARK!

is dis workshop is choosen by your insurance company or you choose yourself? if its by the insurance, then "fart" them :thumbsup:

[SiReal]

pm sent my friend. good luck with it all. frustrating...

[tokyonite]

is dis workshop is choosen by your insurance company or you choose yourself? if its by the insurance, then "fart" them :thumbsup:

da tow truck driver, since da accident happened on friday ard 4:30pm, all workshops are closing...so this tow driver (from aami) towed da car to da closest workshop nearby, aami authorised workshop. However, the other driver is with allians.

[VTECACCORD]

da da da da da da da

is that how you talk to them when you call them up ?

no wonder your not getting anywhere they probably think your some Yobo

[tokyonite]

da da da da da da da

is that how you talk to them when you call them up ?

no wonder your not getting anywhere they probably think your some Yobo


You're not helping here. :thumbdwn:

[denot]

da da da da da da da

is that how you talk to them when you call them up ?

no wonder your not getting anywhere they probably think your some Yobo

stop spamming please!

anyway, it starting to make sense for me... Last time when my friend hit my car, I didnt contact my insurance (NRMA) at all. I just deal with his insurance company (AAMI) so it only need one assessor (from AAMI - before the car get fix). But since yours is fixed by AAMI and the one who pay for this is ALIANZ, that means the ALLIANZ ppl need to check the repairer Quotation before the car fixed, then AAMI assessor need to check the car after its repaired (or the other way around)

[VTECACCORD]

stop spamming please!

anyway, it starting to make sense for me... Last time when my friend hit my car, I didnt contact my insurance (NRMA) at all. I just deal with his insurance company (AAMI) so it only need one assessor (from AAMI - before the car get fix). But since yours is fixed by AAMI and the one who pay for this is ALIANZ, that means the ALLIANZ ppl need to check the repairer Quotation before the car fixed, then AAMI assessor need to check the car after its repaired (or the other way around)

Is this a fact or just some horse shit hear say ?

Why not call your insurance company and ask them, if your with AAMI you should have a personal helper guiding you through the claims process, speak to them.

When I claimed with AAMI I would hear from my claim assessor every week updating me on what was going on, and he would always give me a chance to ask questions.

[tokyonite]

Is this a fact or just some horse shit hear say ?

Why not call your insurance company and ask them, if your with AAMI you should have a personal helper guiding you through the claims process, speak to them.

When I claimed with AAMI I would hear from my claim assessor every week updating me on what was going on, and he would always give me a chance to ask questions.

too bad, mine never call me. No update no shit, they promised to call me if the assessor going to inspect the car and make a quote but they didn't. Then when i called and asked when the assessor is going to make a quote, they told me quote was completed and estimated $8500 damages.

Somehow, i received this letter from AB Recovery, reminded me not to contact aami or allians directly if i would like to make any cliams or ask any question. If i do so, i will be jeopardise the recovery of loss in full. WTF.

[VTECACCORD]

Call AAMI, there footing the bill and find out what is going on.

Did you even go through AAMI ? Normally they take your car off you through a Valet service

[JunYu]

wow sounds like you've been messed around with by both parties.

If i were you i would just head down to the repairers, you might find out something useful.

[denot]

Ya, sounds so fishy tokyonite... When will you be able to pick up the car again?


Is this a fact or just some horse shit hear say ?


and yes this is a FACT! Oh for some more info: for my last insurance claim, I went to 3 different smash repairer and 2 of them said AAMI is sucks (even worst than NRMA), they said AAMI too stingy and stuff. Anyway, not that this has to do with the topic...

[tokyonite]

hey guyz,
got my car back finally......... overall, the repair was good, however, for the interior, i found roughly 15+ scratches, driver's floor mat was EXTREME dirty. overall 9/10 repair job, 3/10 for looking after the interior when replacing the parts, i guess they didn't even put newpaper or someshit on the floor mat or seat to protect it from being scratched.

Very crap! :thumbdwn:

[VTECACCORD]

and yes this is a FACT! Oh for some more info: for my last insurance claim, I went to 3 different smash repairer and 2 of them said AAMI is sucks (even worst than NRMA), they said AAMI too stingy and stuff. Anyway, not that this has to do with the topic...

I guess it's hit and miss with AAMI, I had nothing but compliments for them when it came to my claim.

[destrukshn]

hey guyz,
got my car back finally......... overall, the repair was good, however, for the interior, i found roughly 15+ scratches, driver's floor mat was EXTREME dirty. overall 9/10 repair job, 3/10 for looking after the interior when replacing the parts, i guess they didn't even put newpaper or someshit on the floor mat or seat to protect it from being scratched.

Very crap! :thumbdwn:
complain.

[denot]

hey guyz,
got my car back finally......... overall, the repair was good, however, for the interior, i found roughly 15+ scratches, driver's floor mat was EXTREME dirty. overall 9/10 repair job, 3/10 for looking after the interior when replacing the parts, i guess they didn't even put newpaper or someshit on the floor mat or seat to protect it from being scratched.

Very crap! :thumbdwn:

sorry to hear that tokyonite... :( mine even got polished inside out

[ahmondjai]

sorry to hear that tokyonite... :( mine even got polished inside out

but isn't polish a newish car bad for it??

[denot]

but isn't polish a newish car bad for it??

well mine is almost 2 yo now... :p has been to smash repair twice (2 different)

[MrThanh]

but isn't polish a newish car bad for it??

what would make you think that?

[ahmondjai]

what would make you think that?

because from what I've read here, polish takes away the top part of the clear coat, so, lessen the protection? correct me if wrong~~

[Sexythang]

just wax. no polish for new cars

[ahmondjai]

just wax. no polish for new cars

that's what I'm talking about~~

[denot]

just wax. no polish for new cars

then how "old" is "new" car? 2 years still considered new? 3 years? 5? ^_^

[tokyonite]

that's what I'm talking about~~

damn, the workshop polished my 2 days old civic. fark

the sparyed and polished the new parts + whole car, omg... polished was SUCK. full of hairline scratches. OMG i hate this Mother farking workshop.

[kraiye]

complain complain complain

hit them up to pay for some good polish and wax and fix it yourself properly

[tokyonite]

complain complain complain

hit them up to pay for some good polish and wax and fix it yourself properly


i'll fix those shit polish and bloody scratches by somebody i know, PROS. Think if i put the car back in the workshop, more scratches.

Anyway, did you guyz get any lifetime guarentee certificate from the workshop when u picked up the car?

mine, i asked and they dun provide it, just go back to the workshop whenever there's a problem with the repair.

[musers]

I've just recently repaired my bonnet, because i parked my car under apartment balconies, someone must have dropped a rock or something on it.

As the result, there was a massive dent. anyways fixed it, panel beat, respray front half of the car quite a good job from where i did it (i choose my own repairer, did not use what NRMA refers), and yes they did provide me with lifetime guarantee certificate.

[denot]

tokyonite, can you post the pics of your car after it "FIXED"

[aaronng]

Panel beaters don't know jack about getting the paint back to a good finish. They usually leave your car full of swirls. You will need to go to a good detailer for that. If repair was covered by your insurance, complain to them about the finish. Most insurance policies give warranty on repairs.

[kraiye]

^^^
true dat
just keep complaining
if they think u'r a whinger who gives a s*t. don't stop till ur happy cause thats what u pay for right?

[tokyonite]

tokyonite, can you post the pics of your car after it "FIXED"

ok, i'll post some close up pics tomorrow.

somehow i realised the thai made Civic quality is very low. since the workshop replaced 1 of the passenger door, and i can clearly see the difference between the thai made and aus workshop made. The workshop did a pretty ok job on the door compare to original honda door, but not the polish part. Anyway, pics will explain everything. Tomorrow at this time it will be up.

[denot]

since the workshop replaced 1 of the passenger door, and i can clearly see the difference between the thai made and aus workshop made.

huh? AUS made door? aftermarket door or "refitted" door from other (european) car sitting on their backyard? :p