Best fluids for under the hood!

[aramiK]

Yup basically want to know what oils/fluids are best for Honda engines - B series.

Gearbox -
Brake -
Radiator :P -
Engine -


For engine I'm leading towards Royal Purple not sure about 10-30 or 10-40 though.

Discuss. :)

[kraiye]

honda
honda
honda
honda

:p

[bennjamin]

for most if not all honda engines


Gearbox - honda MFT 06
Brake - honda DOT4
Radiator -honda type 2 coolant
Engine -honda FEO 10/30w

and clutch = honda DOT 4

Get no problems use honda :)

[aaronng]

Another vote for everything Honda. You can use other brands of engine oil as long as they are 10w-30 or 10w-40

[vincikwan]

I use everything honda!!

[novastorm]

Where is the best place to get these Honda liquids?

[aaronng]

Where is the best place to get these Honda liquids?

Mekong at Canley. Or pm Destrukshn.

[novastorm]

Thanks.

[JasonGilholme]

Gearbox - Honda MFT 06
Brake & Clutch - Honda DOT4
Radiator - Honda type 2 coolant
Engine - Castrol Edge 0 - 30 (winter); Castrol Edge 0 - 40 (summer)

I prefer OEM fluids but the OEM engine oil is a mineral oil. I prefer synthetic :thumbsup:

Personal preference really.

[Elwood]

I Use Motul RBF600 Brake fluid, Motul 10w-40 300V motor oil, Honda Coolant and Honda MTF Box fluid (soon to change to redline).

You know me Aram, i baby mine though :P

[absolutR]

Gearbox - Honda MFT 06
Brake & Clutch - Honda DOT4
Radiator - Honda type 2 coolant
Engine - Castrol Edge 0 - 30 (winter); Castrol Edge 0 - 40 (summer)

I prefer OEM fluids but the OEM engine oil is a mineral oil. I prefer synthetic :thumbsup:

Personal preference really.

i thought 0-x would be a way to light oil to run. my mechanic says nothing under 10 preferably 15. he said that running an oil that light is pretty much like running water through your engine, spesh when its the oil is hot he said that it can seep through the valves. to look after your engine's longevity then its best to run 10 or even better 15-x. i ran 0-30 once n got a bit of smoke coming out so i think its best to use that little bit more thick oil to protect your engine, running a 10 or 15 is not sacrificing performance to the slightest extent in which you would notice it. give your engine a little bit of protection n it will last a whole lot more vtecing

[aaronng]

i thought 0-x would be a way to light oil to run. my mechanic says nothing under 10 preferably 15. he said that running an oil that light is pretty much like running water through your engine, spesh when its the oil is hot he said that it can seep through the valves. to look after your engine's longevity then its best to run 10 or even better 15-x. i ran 0-30 once n got a bit of smoke coming out so i think its best to use that little bit more thick oil to protect your engine, running a 10 or 15 is not sacrificing performance to the slightest extent in which you would notice it. give your engine a little bit of protection n it will last a whole lot more vtecing
No, 1st number is the viscosity at -18 C, 2nd number is for 100 C. So for driving conditions where your oil is at 100 C, look at the 2nd number. Using 15w-30 over 0w-30 means you are sacrificing cold temperature circulation for..... well, nothing?

[FAT VTI]

if u were using one oil, and u switched to another, would it harm your engine if you didnt flush the old oil.

My mechanic used synthetic oil, and it is okay, but i think it could be the source to an oil seep . Not 100% sure though, but was just wondering if i could buy some honda oil and see if it solved the leak.

Any ideas?

[aaronng]

Doubt if honda oil will solve your problem. Where is it leaking from? Fix the leak directly.

[hondajazz2005]

Yup basically want to know what oils/fluids are best for Honda engines - B series.

Gearbox -
Brake -
Radiator :P -
Engine -


For engine I'm leading towards Royal Purple not sure about 10-30 or 10-40 though.

Discuss. :)

what aftermarket brand would you guys recommend though?

[Bludger]

what aftermarket brand would you guys recommend though?whats the reason you want to go aftermarket???

are you seeking more performance???

[Bludger]

for most if not all honda engines


Gearbox - honda MFT 06
Brake - honda DOT4
Radiator -honda type 2 coolant
Engine -honda FEO 10/30w

and clutch = honda DOT 4

Get no problems use honda :)you forgot power steering:p

[EG30]

power steering you must use Honda Fluid as it's a fork oil and not ATF type oil, and as for the rest I use:

Eng: Nulon 10w40 for my B16a's and B18c7
G'box: Castrol VMX80 which I'm very happy with, will try their syn version next
Coolant: Caltex long life ( orange type )
Brake: Castrol response super DOT4

[rayb3na_]

oem fluids are pretty good but u reckon expect to change your motor oil sooner then using aftermarket product or thats at least what i find.. the oil gets dirty quicker with oem. which is probably a good thing considering if oils getting dirty that means itnernals are clog free =]

[Bludger]

oil getting black doesn't mean it needs replacing, it means its doing its job

[hondajazz2005]

the reason i going aftermarket is just i want to know which is good.... not performance.... performance wise, is only a jazz... LOL

[aaronng]

the reason i going aftermarket is just i want to know which is good.... not performance.... performance wise, is only a jazz... LOL

OEM is good for everything. But for engine oil, I use aftermarket.

[Bludger]

the reason i going aftermarket is just i want to know which is good.... not performance.... performance wise, is only a jazz... LOLLike Aaron said, Honda is good for everything, but you may get some opinions as many would have their brand of choice....

I myself have only ever used Castrol engine oils.....

[hondajazz2005]

for engine oil im using mobil 1 5w-50, coolant wise, i have no idea what my mech change it to... im going to change my gear box oil, clutch oil and brake oil and power steering oil all together this weekend...... as is hard for me to get the honda oem one due to working time... that is why i ask for some aftermarket choice.

[Bludger]

we all have the same problem

i give money to my oldies and they buy it for me

[hondajazz2005]

good idea bludger... too bad, is only me, myself and i here.... LOL anyway thank you for the recommendation guys

[aaronng]

for engine oil im using mobil 1 5w-50, coolant wise, i have no idea what my mech change it to... im going to change my gear box oil, clutch oil and brake oil and power steering oil all together this weekend...... as is hard for me to get the honda oem one due to working time... that is why i ask for some aftermarket choice.

I wouldn't use Mobil1 5w-50 on an engine as new as yours which is also spec'd for 10w-30. I'd use a 0w/5w/10w-40 maximum!

[hondajazz2005]

why aaronng?? any advice??

[aaronng]

why aaronng?? any advice??

Because 5w-50 is 2 steps thicker than specified for your engine. It would be alright if you had a high mileage engine, but since yours is new, you are losing power and fuel economy using 5w-50 when 5w-40 would be just as good in terms of protection (and maybe even better since your tolerances are still tight)

[hondajazz2005]

Because 5w-50 is 2 steps thicker than specified for your engine. It would be alright if you had a high mileage engine, but since yours is new, you are losing power and fuel economy using 5w-50 when 5w-40 would be just as good in terms of protection (and maybe even better since your tolerances are still tight)

my car now has done around 68K, almost 3 years old. can this b consider as high mileage??

[aaronng]

my car now has done around 68K, almost 3 years old. can this b consider as high mileage??

Nope, high mileage to me is about 120-150km. 5w-50 shouldn't cause damage to your engine, but just letting you know that you can get away with Motul 5w-40 ($65) or even Castrol Edge 5w-30 ($50), and get more power and better fuel consumption.

[outatime]

Nope, high mileage to me is about 120-150km.

what oil do you recommend for high mileage engines?

[aaronng]

what oil do you recommend for high mileage engines?

First, try FEO 10w-30. If you are having oil consumption problems, replace the PCV valve. If it still consumes, then try either 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40 first, and move on to 5w-50 or 10w-50 if it is still consuming. I have used Motul 8100, Castrol Edge and Elf. All are good for my driving and engine condition (60k + 3 track days). I have also used Castrol Magnatec 10w-40, but that one should be changed every 5000km max. I was having roughness at 7000km with gently driving (no hooning, no track).

[hondajazz2005]

Nope, high mileage to me is about 120-150km. 5w-50 shouldn't cause damage to your engine, but just letting you know that you can get away with Motul 5w-40 ($65) or even Castrol Edge 5w-30 ($50), and get more power and better fuel consumption.

out of all the 5w-40, which brand you highly recommend if you only can choose one (bside the honda oil)??

[aaronng]

out of all the 5w-40, which brand you highly recommend if you only can choose one (bside the honda oil)??

5w-40, Motul 8100. I haven't tried Elf 5w-40, will give that a go next time and report. In the end, all you are looking for is an engine that hasn't siezed from poor lubrication. LOL. So every oil with the correct viscosity will work.

[FAT VTI]

is there a reason why honda changed its coolant "type 2" which is blue?

[isami]

bumping in cause i need to top up/change...
i got about 100k kms on a B
so saying i should use FEO 10w-30?
do ya just grab these at honda? thanx

[Bludger]

my car now has done around 68K, almost 3 years old. can this b consider as high mileage??no


Nope, high mileage to me is about 120-150km. 5w-50 shouldn't cause damage to your engine, but just letting you know that you can get away with Motul 5w-40 ($65) or even Castrol Edge 5w-30 ($50), and get more power and better fuel consumption.IMHO

High mileage on a Honda is 200+km's


out of all the 5w-40, which brand you highly recommend if you only can choose one (bside the honda oil)??0w-40 Castrol Edge, but its $75 for 5 liters

[blahZ]

OEM is best :thumbsup:

[hondajazz2005]

sorry for asking noob questions again.....
how many litres do we need for power steering oil, brake n clutch oil and gearbox oil??
just phone honda and has the following price:
power steering oil - $14 p/litre
brake n clutch oil - $8 p/litre
manual transmission oil - $14 p/litre

[aaronng]

sorry for asking noob questions again.....
how many litres do we need for power steering oil, brake n clutch oil and gearbox oil??
just phone honda and has the following price:
power steering oil - $14 p/litre
brake n clutch oil - $8 p/litre
manual transmission oil - $14 p/litre

You don't need power steering fluid for your Jazz. Your Jazz has electrically-assisted power steering.
Brake and clutch fluid come in 600ml bottles and cost you $8 each. 1/2 a bottle for clutch and 1.5-2 bottles for brake if it is your first time doing it.

[Bludger]

sorry for asking noob questions again.....
how many litres do we need for power steering oil, brake n clutch oil and gearbox oil??
just phone honda and has the following price:
power steering oil - $14 p/litre
brake n clutch oil - $8 p/litre
manual transmission oil - $14 p/litrethe amount of fluids that your engine carries is contained in your Honda manual

[hondajazz2005]

You don't need power steering fluid for your Jazz. Your Jazz has electrically-assisted power steering.
Brake and clutch fluid come in 600ml bottles and cost you $8 each. 1/2 a bottle for clutch and 1.5-2 bottles for brake if it is your first time doing it.

now i only know my jazz has electrically-assisted power steering. :p
thanks aarong

[Limbo]

now i only know my jazz has electrically-assisted power steering. :p
thanks aarong


Is that the same for VI Civic as i could never find the P/S

[Rice_banger]

since where on the topic of fluids

i just changed my coolant on my civic EK1 , i drainied the radiator , then flushed it out with a few L of water then started the car and put more clean water down the radiator then put the drain plug back in and filled it up with water , went around the block drained it and put in some new nulon stuff

what im wondering is , im scared ive cross contaminated coolants and ive heard thats a bad thing

does anyone reckon ive done bad ?

[bennjamin]

go out , buy 5l premixed from Honda for like $32
Turn the temp to HOT on your dash
drain your existing coolant (from the drain at bottom of radiator) drain out old.
When empty retighten and fill up with fresh honda stuff.
Start car and "burp" air bubbles out with 2 or 3 therm fan runs.
Drive for 2 or 3 years with no fear of cooling problems :)

[aaronng]

since where on the topic of fluids

i just changed my coolant on my civic EK1 , i drainied the radiator , then flushed it out with a few L of water then started the car and put more clean water down the radiator then put the drain plug back in and filled it up with water , went around the block drained it and put in some new nulon stuff

what im wondering is , im scared ive cross contaminated coolants and ive heard thats a bad thing

does anyone reckon ive done bad ?
The biggest mistake you did there was to start the engine without any coolant to circulate the engine.

[Rice_banger]

soo amm should i be worried about cross contamination of coolants or should be all cool

[aaronng]

Stick to Honda OEM coolant and it will be all cool. :thumbsup:
if they are the same coolant types, then it should be alright. If they are not compatible, then you'll be in trouble if you didn't flush it.

[RtN]

Hmm so yeh I just recently bought a car.. and eh... we don't really know if they've used OEM liquids or not.. is it best to Flush every type of liquid? .__. sighs..

[aaronng]

Hmm so yeh I just recently bought a car.. and eh... we don't really know if they've used OEM liquids or not.. is it best to Flush every type of liquid? .__. sighs..

No, you don't have to flush everything. Just change the fluids like normal.

[Rice_banger]

today im going to go out and buy some manual gear box fluid

so which thickness would i need , due to i looked at autobarn and they had 2 differnt types of motul manual gear box fluid , which one would u guys reccomend ?

[aaronng]

today im going to go out and buy some manual gear box fluid

so which thickness would i need , due to i looked at autobarn and they had 2 differnt types of motul manual gear box fluid , which one would u guys reccomend ?
75w80 is the viscosity of Honda MTF. So get the same if you can.

[Rice_banger]

75w80 is the viscosity of Honda MTF. So get the same if you can.

ok thanks

hopefuly i find the same vilsotiy

and im going to buy some motul brake fluid for my clutch hopefuly that stuff is alrite, is it 1 X 500ML bottle i need or more to flush it out

[VTECMACHINE]

I use:

Gearbox - Motul FWD Type II LSD oil (Best oil for Cusco LSD)
Brake - NEO racing oil (Comes out of a drum thing... so no idea on viscosity... it's gooddddd though)
Radiator :P - water, with Toyota Coolant.
Engine - Street: Castrol 5W-30
Track: Royal Purple 5W-30 or 10w-40, or Valvoline 10W-50 Depending on temperature.

[aaronng]

ok thanks

hopefuly i find the same vilsotiy

and im going to buy some motul brake fluid for my clutch hopefuly that stuff is alrite, is it 1 X 500ML bottle i need or more to flush it out

Why bother with expensive motul brake fluid? Cheap Honda brake fluid is good enough.

[b18boy]

I use royal purple 10w-40, seems real good to me. It rated the best in a independent test of like motul, penrite etc..

[tiksie]

Yah, that place at canley..It's very cheap, they sell Honda P/S fluid for like $11

[Rice_banger]

Why bother with expensive motul brake fluid? Cheap Honda brake fluid is good enough.

i paid cheaper for the motul then the genuine

i got 2 x 500ML bottles would that be enough for the clutch

and i got 75/90 castrol manual gear box fluid synthetic it says , is that alrite slightly thicker ?

[bennjamin]

i paid cheaper for the motul then the genuine

i got 2 x 500ML bottles would that be enough for the clutch

and i got 75/90 castrol manual gear box fluid synthetic it says , is that alrite slightly thicker ?

you only need about 300ml for bleeding the clutch.

id get the recommended spec fluid for the gearbox , it is a precise mechanism and thicker may pull particles thru and cause issues

[aaronng]

i paid cheaper for the motul then the genuine

i got 2 x 500ML bottles would that be enough for the clutch

and i got 75/90 castrol manual gear box fluid synthetic it says , is that alrite slightly thicker ?

Genuine is like $8-10. Is motul that cheap?

Depends on the gearbox. I have heard of a thicker oil supposedly solving problems with synchro crunch, only to find later on that the problem comes back but the synchros are totally worn and need to be replaced. Anyway, why go Castrol manual trans fluid? If you wanted aftermarket, at least get something good like Redline. If you go for Castrol, you might as well go for Honda MTF which is probably BETTER than Castrol's trans fluid.

[Rice_banger]

oh sigh so that castrol is to thick and its red in colour sigh , i reckon stay away what you reckon ?

[Shorty]

genuine genuine genuine.

its the only stuff on the market that is specifically made for YOUR enging and your engine only.

[Rice_banger]

would anyone know if castrol syntraz 75/90 manual transaxle / manual transmition fluid is any good for our hondas

a mate gave me 2 bottles which where laying around , it says its full synthetic but i doubt its really full syn

[aaronng]

would anyone know if castrol syntraz 75/90 manual transaxle / manual transmition fluid is any good for our hondas

a mate gave me 2 bottles which where laying around , it says its full synthetic but i doubt its really full syn

Honda MTF is 75w-80. The old MTF plus was normal. but the new MTF06 is much nicer. Feels like Redline's shockproof. I'd use Honda MTF 06.