[Euro] Exedy Hyper Clutch stage 1 or Exedy OEM clutch kit

[Crapdaz]

Hi,

Havent found an answer on this forum.

In regards to clutch kit (Hyper clutch stage 1 and Exedy OEM clutch kit) can i have people's opinion how the feel, cost + install, weight compared to OEM and other advantages + disadvantages as i was looking to change my clutch and flywheel soon.

Regards, Darren http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Suntzu]

I really am going to do a mod before the end of financial.

i also want a lightweight flywheel.

But i like the feel of my stock clutch.

So should I just get the exedy flywheel and can i use this with the OEM clutch? My clutch has only done 45000kms.

[Adrian Euro]

Hi,

Havent found an answer on this forum.

In regards to clutch kit (Hyper clutch stage 1 and Exedy OEM clutch kit) can i have people's opinion how the feel, cost + install, weight compared to OEM and other advantages + disadvantages as i was looking to change my clutch and flywheel soon.

Regards, Darren http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

I put on an exhedy heavy duty clutch its a rougher ride cost me around $800 for the clutch and $600 for the install...... The ckutch seems to not be disengaging is what my mechanic tells me!!!! thats around about 25k-35k later its around 18months old. i am thinking of going back to original!!!!

[aaronng]

I put on an exhedy heavy duty clutch its a rougher ride cost me around $800 for the clutch and $600 for the install...... The ckutch seems to not be disengaging is what my mechanic tells me!!!! thats around about 25k-35k later its around 18months old. i am thinking of going back to original!!!!

Is the bite point at the bottom of the floor? Have you bled your clutch fluid? After bleeding, if you still have the same problem, try adjusting the pushrod which goes into your master cylinder.

[aaronng]

I really am going to do a mod before the end of financial.

i also want a lightweight flywheel.

But i like the feel of my stock clutch.

So should I just get the exedy flywheel and can i use this with the OEM clutch? My clutch has only done 45000kms.
I'm a bit wary of doing this, because exedy flywheels being sold for the K24A/TSX could be the part for the K20A. If that is the case, you will need a matching K20A flywheel.

[Adrian Euro]

Is the bite point at the bottom of the floor? Have you bled your clutch fluid? After bleeding, if you still have the same problem, try adjusting the pushrod which goes into your master cylinder.

yeah thats exactly what the mechaic said!!! its biting like at the bottom of the floor hence his interpretation of not disengaging i think. Also when the car is pushed from first to second at aroun 6500 rpm the gears doesn't go in and just crunches.!!!!

[enkay]

u could try the fidanza flywheel, they work with the oem clutch im pretti sure

[Suntzu]

Im very tempted to get the Fidanza witht he stock oem clutch since mine done no work.

i am concerned about the exedy needing a tougher clutch as mine a daily driver and my missus will not like a tough clutch.

[aaronng]

yeah thats exactly what the mechaic said!!! its biting like at the bottom of the floor hence his interpretation of not disengaging i think. Also when the car is pushed from first to second at aroun 6500 rpm the gears doesn't go in and just crunches.!!!!

Bleed the clutch slave cylinder first. It is just in front of the radiator overflow tank, underneath the intake manifold. If that doesn't help, ask the mechanic to adjust the push rod which goes into the clutch master cylinder.

[Adrian Euro]

Bleed the clutch slave cylinder first. It is just in front of the radiator overflow tank, underneath the intake manifold. If that doesn't help, ask the mechanic to adjust the push rod which goes into the clutch master cylinder.

Is their anyway that i can find out if he has done what i asked. I just asked him to do that!!!! He said he will take a look and it may take an hour!!!! Will that fic the grinding from first to second??? damn man he also said my left drive shaft needs replacing!!!

[aaronng]

Im very tempted to get the Fidanza witht he stock oem clutch since mine done no work.

i am concerned about the exedy needing a tougher clutch as mine a daily driver and my missus will not like a tough clutch.

Nope, you don't need a tougher clutch. You can get an OEM spec clutch with an OEM spec pressure plate.

Fidanzas are 2 piece. Be aware of that. :)

[aaronng]

Is their anyway that i can find out if he has done what i asked. I just asked him to do that!!!! He said he will take a look and it may take an hour!!!! Will that fic the grinding from first to second??? damn man he also said my left drive shaft needs replacing!!!
If you move the bite point about 1/4 from the bottom. it should help since the input shaft won't have powered when you press the clutch. But if it is a synchro grind and not a gear grind, I'd recommend you to change your MTF. What happened to your left drive shaft? Is it bent?

[Suntzu]

Nope, you don't need a tougher clutch. You can get an OEM spec clutch with an OEM spec pressure plate.

Fidanzas are 2 piece. Be aware of that. :)

Not sure what you mean. thats a bad thing? Im not up to speed on flywheels.

i know the exedy is solid but you HAVE to HAVE the clutch and that puts me off.

Any ideas what an install of the flywheel would cost?

[aaronng]

Not sure what you mean. thats a bad thing? Im not up to speed on flywheels.

i know the exedy is solid but you HAVE to HAVE the clutch and that puts me off.

Any ideas what an install of the flywheel would cost?

2 piece means that the centre core and the friction surface of the flywheel are pressed together from 2 parts and then secured. I think with Fidanza, the flywheel is aluminium, and the friction surface is steel. I prefer 1 piece because there is a much lower chance of things coming apart.

Why don't you change the clutch to a matching k20a one at the same time? Doesn't cost much since you already have done most of the labour. Also, I recommend that you change the clutch release bearing while you are in there.

[Suntzu]

That sounds like good addvice but theres not a huge amount of options.

The fidanza's two piece.
The Exedy flywheel must ahve the exedy clutch , so cant use the K20a one.

SO I need a better flywheel compatible with normal clutchs.

Whats the advantage of the k20a clutch over the K24 clutch?

[aaronng]

The Exedy flywheel must ahve the exedy clutch , so cant use the K20a one.

No, Exedy flywheel does not require an exedy clutch. The reason is when you buy a k24a exedy lightweight flywheel, it is actually the flywheel for k20a, which has a different sized contact surface to k24a. So you need a k20a clutch to match. Your stock OEM clutch (and probably flywheel too) is made by Exedy Daikin. :)

[Suntzu]

Ok im confused now. This is why

Heres a Exedy Flywheel/Clucth package aimed at K24

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360050756641&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:MOTORS:1123

Now you are saying this is really for a K20a. Fair enough, but it doesnt say if its lightweight or not. It is cheap tho. Freight is about $90 usd. Excellent. But is it lightweight? Ive asked the seller. Stay tuned.

Now then we have this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-FLYWHEEL-KIT-03-07-ACURA-TSX-ALL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ006QQitem Z160241142317QQtcZphoto

Lightweight racing flywheel aimed at K24 from the same seller. Its also a K20a unit?? But how doe sit differ from the first flywheel, and is the first flywheel any lighter than the stock euro one??? More expensive than the above package.

You can see how its confusing eh?

Your advice is excellent and helpful though. cheers

[aaronng]

Ok im confused now. This is why

Heres a Exedy Flywheel/Clucth package aimed at K24

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360050756641&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:MOTORS:1123

Now you are saying this is really for a K20a. Fair enough, but it doesnt say if its lightweight or not. It is cheap tho. Freight is about $90 usd. Excellent. But is it lightweight? Ive asked the seller. Stay tuned.
That says the clutch disc is 225mm diameter, which should be for K24A. Probably not lightweight. I don't like the listing from this seller because it doesn't tell you enough info. Have a look at the equivalent package from a seller that I have used to get my kit. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-04-06-ACURA-TSX-K24-NEW-CLUTCH-FLYWHEEL-KIT_W0QQitemZ170220333127QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Now then
we have this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-FLYWHEEL-KIT-03-07-ACURA-TSX-ALL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ006QQitem Z160241142317QQtcZphoto

Lightweight racing flywheel aimed at K24 from the same seller. Its also a K20a unit?? But how doe sit differ from the first flywheel, and is the first flywheel any lighter than the stock euro one??? More expensive than the above package.

You can see how its confusing eh?

Your advice is excellent and helpful though. cheers
Again, this seller's listing is not informative. It does say that it is an HF02(T). They say it is for a flywheel, then it below that it says it is a FULL kit. All I can say is WTF. Have a look at the ad from the seller I use. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-HF02-RACING-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ170198342087QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. Here they tell you that the flywheel is an HF02 which is the same as the lightweight flywheel in your link. But in my link, they also tell you the clutch specs, which say it is a 216mm! So this kit won't mate up with the regular weight clutch and flywheel kit that you and I posted above. Then over here in this link, (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-FLYWHEEL-02-06-CIVIC-SI-RSX-TYPE-S_W0QQitemZ150126344564QQihZ005QQcategoryZ33732QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem), it says that to use this HF02 flywheel in the base RSX and Civic Si, you need to change the clutch to the one from the RSX-Type S, which has the original K20A2 engine, same as our DC5R.

[Suntzu]

Ok yeah its not enough info:

sorry to cross post from my mod log but heres two more which look better: need your expert advice:

First the F1 racing package 10.25 lb flywheel

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-RACING-FLYWHEEL-02-06-RSX-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ007QQitem Z170219906279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


and Gripforce again ( thats your guy??)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

similar but same 10 lb flywheel with exedy clutch

Reckon these will fit a k24 and be ok?

[EK Civic R]

Suntzu.. If your worried about how stiff the clutch will look into getting a K20a flywheel and clutch.. K20A flywheels are fairly light for a stock flywheel.
And I also read on your mods log that you were looking at OBX LSD.. don't go for that get a K20 LSD from a DC5R/CL7/EP3/FD2.. I'm quite sure it would be better in the long run.

[aaronng]

Ok yeah its not enough info:

sorry to cross post from my mod log but heres two more which look better: need your expert advice:

First the F1 racing package 10.25 lb flywheel

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-RACING-FLYWHEEL-02-06-RSX-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ007QQitem Z170219906279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Similar to the Exedy lightweight, except that they supply an HD pressure plate instead. For some reason, Gripforce doesn't combine the Exedy lightweight flywheel with an Exedy HD clutch kit. If you don't mind a heavier clutch pedal, this F1 one is ok. I'd check who the manufacturer is. I remember seeing a discussion on it on either Ozhonda or the TSX forums, but I can't remember off the top of my head who makes the F1 clutch/flywheels.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

similar but same 10 lb flywheel with exedy clutch

Reckon these will fit a k24 and be ok?
This one is similar to the Exedy lightweight clutch and flywheel kit, except that it comes with the F1 lightweight flywheel. From this link, they combine the F1 flywheel with the 216mm Exedy clutch, which means that the F1 flywheel is also a K20A2-sized flywheel.

Both of them will fit the K24A as long as you get both the flywheel and clutch to match. For your piece of mind, I have the Exedy lightweight flywheel and 216mm Exedy OEM clutch sitting in my storeroom waiting to be installed. :)

[aaronng]

Suntzu.. If your worried about how stiff the clutch will look into getting a K20a flywheel and clutch.. K20A flywheels are fairly light for a stock flywheel.
And I also read on your mods log that you were looking at OBX LSD.. don't go for that get a K20 LSD from a DC5R/CL7/EP3/FD2.. I'm quite sure it would be better in the long run.

Agreed.... Something's up when a new OBX LSD costs less than a 2nd hand Honda OEM K20A LSD.

[Suntzu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/images/aria/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1693490#post1693490)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...link:middle:us (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us)

similar but same 10 lb flywheel with exedy clutch

Reckon these will fit a k24 and be ok?

AARONG

This one is similar to the Exedy lightweight clutch and flywheel kit, except that it comes with the F1 lightweight flywheel. From this link, they combine the F1 flywheel with the 216mm Exedy clutch, which means that the F1 flywheel is also a K20A2-sized flywheel.

Both of them will fit the K24A as long as you get both the flywheel and clutch to match. For your piece of mind, I have the Exedy lightweight flywheel and 216mm Exedy OEM clutch sitting in my storeroom waiting to be installed.

So this looks very similar to what you have ordered. Do you mind telling me what you paid for the EXEDY OEM clutch Plus EXEDY racing flywheel plus shipping? Was this a package? i can seem to find this package on ebay.

The package above looks almost the same but as you say has the f1 racing flywheel. Its impossible to do a search for " F1 racing" though so i cant research it.

The pricing is very cheap at @$279 aud but he wants about $200 to ship, most of the others ar about $90 to ship so thats why its cheap i guess..

What are you looking at paying for the install?

You can pm me if you like.

Interesting discussion..

[aaronng]

So this looks very similar to what you have ordered. Do you mind telling me what you paid for the EXEDY OEM clutch Plus EXEDY racing flywheel plus shipping? Was this a package? i can seem to find this package on ebay.
This is the kit I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-HF02-RACING-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ170198342087QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I paid US$124 for shipping via UPS. Got it within 5 days. Total was around AU$600 landed if I remember correctly.



The package above looks almost the same but as you say has the f1 racing flywheel. Its impossible to do a search for " F1 racing" though so i cant research it.

The pricing is very cheap at @$279 aud but he wants about $200 to ship, most of the others ar about $90 to ship so thats why its cheap i guess..

What are you looking at paying for the install?

You can pm me if you like.

Interesting discussion..
Have a read on F1 racing (there is also Exedy and XTD discussion in the thread and a pic of a failed Exedy clutch) http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1305401&page=1
Edit: On page 4, there is an F1 racing review by a TSX owner. After 5000miles, the clutch slips if you have been driving in traffic a lot. Time to give F1 racing a skip, I reckon.

Install is about 800-900 I reckon. You can get it done cheaper probably at Hanny's. Have to drop the subframe to access the gearbox.

[Crapdaz]

This is the kit I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-HF02-RACING-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ170198342087QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I paid US$124 for shipping via UPS. Got it within 5 days. Total was around AU$600 landed if I remember correctly.


Have a read on F1 racing (there is also Exedy and XTD discussion in the thread and a pic of a failed Exedy clutch) http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1305401&page=1
Edit: On page 4, there is an F1 racing review by a TSX owner. After 5000miles, the clutch slips if you have been driving in traffic a lot. Time to give F1 racing a skip, I reckon.

Install is about 800-900 I reckon. You can get it done cheaper probably at Hanny's. Have to drop the subframe to access the gearbox.

Whats the good and the bad for the kit on the euro?
Thanks aaron.

[aaronng]

Whats the good and the bad for the kit on the euro?
Thanks aaron.
Which kit? The kit I bought? Makes your wallet lighter. Installation costs set your wallet on fire. Pros, car revs up quicker.

[Suntzu]

Basically heres the issue for me now aaronng's been helping me with advice.

Best option is :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-HF02-RACING-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ170198342087QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

$425 plus about $125 ship. Call it $550 USD. Proven package, pretty stock clutch.aaronng has this but not installed.

Now i have spotted this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

$276 plus about $200 ship. So about $480. Has exedy clutch but F1 racing flywheel which is probably an ok unit, not as proven as exedy.

So its better to get the exedy/exedy package for the difference.

However I can also get a Fidanza flywheel bought and shipped for about $350 USd, but no clutch. i dont need a clutch but its probably worth doing. ( ive only done 40 000kms) see here $60 to ship http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310047227289 Thats the cheapest option but one day i will need a new clutch and id be blowing a big opportunity to save money there...

I have no clue why the shipping is from $200+ to only $60 for similar items.

This option http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360050756641&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 is also very cheap at $250 plus $91 to ship but no info on the flywheel ...



Its hard to call.

[aaronng]

Send an email to gripforce to ask if he will do a kit with the F1 racing flywheel with the exedy clutch.

[Crapdaz]

ooh i thought you got it installed aaron.

[aaronng]

Not yet. My clutch is still good. :)

[Suntzu]

Send an email to gripforce to ask if he will do a kit with the F1 racing flywheel with the exedy clutch.

He does its the second item on my above list.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

The $480 one. Thought it was probably better to pay the extra $70 and get Exedy FW/Exedy Clutch. Its the shipping thats a bitch..

[Suntzu]

Ands heres an unknown brand for integra/rsx that should fit

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__02-06-RSX-6Spd-Civic-2-0L-Stage-1-Clutch-FlywheeL_W0QQitemZ170219314533QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20Tr uckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZVie wItem?hash=item170219314533&

$279 + $55 ship! Thats crazy cheap, but whats the brand....?????

If only gripforces shipping was so over the top.

[aaronng]

He does its the second item on my above list.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

The $480 one. Thought it was probably better to pay the extra $70 and get Exedy FW/Exedy Clutch. Its the shipping thats a bitch..

That's odd, Gripforce quoted you $200 shipping for that? It should be the same weight as the Exedy kit. I didn't buy mine that long ago....

[Crapdaz]

do you think going uphill will put too much stress on the lightweight flywheel?

and whats the worst that can happen?

[aaronng]

do you think going uphill will put too much stress on the lightweight flywheel?

and whats the worst that can happen?

Nope.
Flywheel breaks into pieces or clutch breaks into pieces when you are revving at 7000rpm. :p

[Crapdaz]

Nope.
Flywheel breaks into pieces or clutch breaks into pieces when you are revving at 7000rpm.

and how much was shipping for you on the clutch and FW?

[aaronng]

and how much was shipping for you on the clutch and FW?
US$124 by UPS.

[Crapdaz]

US$124 by UPS.

Just another thing, do you have part no. for the clutch itself? and the flywheel is the HF02 no.?

Thanks,

[Suntzu]

Aaronng,

Ay reason you went for the stock oem Exedy and not stage 1? Im guessing like me you want a well behaved day to day ride?

[Crapdaz]

yeh, would get one too when i am not soo poor.

as i dont want a hardcore heavy duty one.

[aaronng]

Aaronng,

Ay reason you went for the stock oem Exedy and not stage 1? Im guessing like me you want a well behaved day to day ride?

Because I originally wanted the Exedy HD and Gripforce only sells the Stage 2 kit. No Stage 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-2-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-ACURA-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ150051348275QQihZ005QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Crapdaz]

sorry for my ignorance but what is the major difference between stage 1 and stage 2?

clamping force?

[Suntzu]

OK,

Gripforce from ebay got back to me:

This item is $276 plus the quoted $159 ship = $435
EXEDY CLUTCH KIT+10 LBS F1 RACING FLYWHEEL 02-06 ACURA RSX K20Its say its for the RSX k20a though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123


And this one: $248 plus $229 ship! = $447
EXEDY 04-06 ACURA TSX K24 NEW CLUTCH & F1 Racing FLYWHEEL KIT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-04-06-ACURA-TSX-K24-NEW-CLUTCH-FLYWHEEL-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ007QQitem Z170220333127QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Given they are basically the same and cost basically the same, im thinking they are the same package.

This is a fair bit cheaper than the kit arronng bought

$415 plus about $120 ship = $535
EXEDY CLUTCH KIT & HF02 EXEDY RACING FLYWHEEL 04-07 TSX K24 It a 8.9 lb flywheel so lighter than the F1 racing above. see http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-HF02-RACING-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ170198342087QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

So basically its $100 USD cheaper to get the F1 racing flywheel over the Exedy flywheel. The Exedy flywheel is about 1.5 pounds lighter. Exedy probably better brand.

What do you guys think?

I emailed the guy to ask if the RSX kit would fit the K24. I think the shipping is just different to make up the price they want about $450 for these kits.I have also asked gripforce if they can do a STAGE 1 clutch and flywheel package.

[aaronng]

So basically its $100 USD cheaper to get the F1 racing flywheel over the Exedy flywheel. The Exedy flywheel is about 1.5 pounds lighter. Exedy probably better brand.

What do you guys think?

Up to you. If you want to put that $100 to use somewhere else, then try the F1 Racing. But for me, I wanted an established brand as I didn't want to have to pull the clutch and flywheel out again even if it was covered under Gripforce's warranty. I don't think the warranty covers labour, only parts.

[enkay]

the rsx kit will fit as u can use any k20 clutch aslong as u do clutch and flywheel

[Suntzu]

Because I originally wanted the Exedy HD and Gripforce only sells the Stage 2 kit. No Stage 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-2-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-ACURA-TSX-K24_W0QQitemZ150051348275QQihZ005QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Any reason this wont kit our cars then, same part number on the flywheel

EXEDY RACING STAGE 1 CLUTCH KIT+FLYWHEEL ACURA RSX K20
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-ACURA-RSX-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ005QQitem Z150179990179

This is $512 plus ship. ive asked them for shipping.

Or not?

[aaronng]

Any reason this wont kit our cars then, same part number on the flywheel

EXEDY RACING STAGE 1 CLUTCH KIT+FLYWHEEL ACURA RSX K20
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-ACURA-RSX-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ005QQitem Z150179990179

Or not?

It should fit. Same flywheel as in the kit I have. Back then, I only searched for TSX as well.

[Suntzu]

I really wonder if its worth going to to the Stage 1 Exedy over the stock Exedy. Probably be about $100 USD difference landed. I dont want a car to hard to drive cause of my small missus driving.

HANG ON! Im back on topic...Exactly! LOL

[tony1234]

Up to you. If you want to put that $100 to use somewhere else, then try the F1 Racing. But for me, I wanted an established brand as I didn't want to have to pull the clutch and flywheel out again even if it was covered under Gripforce's warranty. I don't think the warranty covers labour, only parts.
Yeah,i agree.BTW warranty does NOT cover labour.

[Suntzu]

Im 100% getting Exedy FW/Exedy clutch. For the $100 im not going to risk it.

The issue is whether to pay the extra $100 over the $425 to get the Stage 1 clutch which is the original issue in this thread.

I just dont know anyone with a stage 1 clutch!

[aaronng]

Im 100% getting Exedy FW/Exedy clutch. For the $100 im not going to risk it.

The issue is whether to pay the extra $100 over the $425 to get the Stage 1 clutch which is the original issue in this thread.

I just dont know anyone with a stage 1 clutch!

Stage 1 could be the Exedy HD. Same clutch disc as OEM Exedy, but with a heavier pressure plate.

[Suntzu]

So probably not worth paying the extra for stage 1? If materials the same and i dont want a stiffer pedal... I mean i dont have a lot of extra Hp over stock and the normal exedy should wear the same as the stage 1 anyways

[tony1234]

Stage 1 could be the Exedy HD. Same clutch disc as OEM Exedy, but with a heavier pressure plate.
That's what i think it is.IMO It'd be worthwhile paying the extra $100.

[Suntzu]

OK,
UPDATE:
gripforce got back to me:

EXEDY RACING STAGE 1 CLUTCH KIT+FLYWHEEL ACURA RSX K20 $512 + $149 ship = $664 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150179990179&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123

Again im assuming it will fit pit CL9 everything ive read says yes. Not a bad deal.

Its a better deal than $415 plus about $120 ship = $535
EXEDY CLUTCH KIT & HF02 EXEDY RACING FLYWHEEL 04-07 TSX K24 It a 8.9 lb flywheel so lighter than the F1 racing above. see http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY...QQcmdZViewItem

ill decide soon

[aaronng]

OK,
UPDATE:
gripforce got back to me:

EXEDY RACING STAGE 1 CLUTCH KIT+FLYWHEEL ACURA RSX K20 $415 + $149 ship = $564 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150179990179&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123

Nice, listing says $512.16 without shipping. Nice price you got

[Suntzu]

Typo by me fixed now. Its $664 delivered.
Its not the money now. I just can decide if i want stage 1 or normal OEM clutch. My wife wont handle a dicky clutch , but i have no idea how the stage 1 will behave.

Its one of those thinks you have to try...

[Crapdaz]

Do It, Spill Da Beans!

[Suntzu]

I emailed a few traders here to try and get a price.

Maxhondapower says a euro customer of his had trouble with the K20/RSX exedy clutch and flywheel but the Exedy website says they are the same part number so now im getting gun shy.

EDIT:

One of the other traders also says the clutch for K20a is differnt to the K24a.

This is contrary to what im reading on acurazine and the exedy website which list the RSX/TSX as same part...

any ideas anyone?

[aaronng]

I emailed a few traders here to try and get a price.

Maxhondapower says a euro customer of his had trouble with the K20/RSX exedy clutch and flywheel but the Exedy website says they are the same part number so now im getting gun shy.

EDIT:

One of the other traders also says the clutch for K20a is differnt to the K24a.

This is contrary to what im reading on acurazine and the exedy website which list the RSX/TSX as same part...

any ideas anyone?
The RSX and TSX have DIFFERENT stock clutch and flywheel (mating face) sizes. So if you change a TSX flywheel to an RSX (or k20a) flywheel, you MUST change to an RSX/k20a clutch as well. Hence these parts being sold as kits by sellers instead of selling the clutch and flywheel separately as 2 items.

[Suntzu]

Cool. I dunno why the traders here dont know that. I did ask for both AS as package not separately.

Getting a quote on install then Im purchasing. probably get the same as you aaronng. Exedy stock clutch and 8.9 lbs flywheel.

You should get yours installed aarong, be sweet as..

[aaronng]

Cool. I dunno why the traders here dont know that. I did ask for both AS as package not separately.

Getting a quote on install then Im purchasing. probably get the same as you aaronng. Exedy stock clutch and 8.9 lbs flywheel.

You should get yours installed aarong, be sweet as..

I reckon you should wait until I install mine, so that I can report if I have problems. I plan to do it sometime in June.

[Suntzu]

For the kit you got aaronng,

EXEDY CLUTCH KIT & RACING FLYWHEEL 04-07 TSX K24 6 SPD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160214085323&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123

This is $425 +$159 shipping

Im not sure why theres a huge variability in shipping.

Gripforce for ebay is telling me I cannot order a RSX clutch, it must be a TSX on. I got no idea why since they are the same part numbers...

Im going to leave it until aaronng does his.

Aronng can you tell me the physical part number on the two boxes you have?

Thanks for the help.

[Suntzu]

Gripforce now have the TSX Exedy Stage 1 and HF02 racing flywheel pacake up for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ007QQitem Z170223648302

Not bad. I got a quote from my honda dealer and they want $730 to do the job.

Sounds too much or fair?

[aaronng]

Gripforce now have the TSX Exedy Stage 1 and HF02 racing flywheel pacake up for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-04-07-TSX-K24_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ007QQitem Z170223648302

Not bad. I got a quote from my honda dealer and they want $730 to do the job.

Sounds too much or fair?
Dammit, now I feel like getting that set instead. LOL
Have you asked other workshops for quotes?

[tony1234]

Dammit, now I feel like getting that set instead. LOL
Have you asked other workshops for quotes?
Hmmm,got me interested.I'll wait till Suntzu or Aaron do theirs.

[aaronng]

Quick update. I got the OEM clutch (which is k20a-sized) and it is softer than stock! So I recommend you get at least the stage 1 exedy clutch.

[Suntzu]

So you the HF02 lightweight flywheel installed as well?

Come on! : First thoughts?

[aaronng]

No problems going up hill and all that BS. The only problem is low speed take off. You need more throttle to take off because the revs drop quicker when you release the clutch. Might be a bitch if you are stopped on an incline in a traffic jam. Acceleration-wise, there is an improvement in most gears, with the most improvement in the 2000-4500rpm range when you use full throttle. I haven't gone higher yet, still running in the clutch so I don't want to do high rpm shifting.

Also, the revs tend to bounce when you release the accelerator in neutral, which is expected since the flywheel has less inertia and the revs drop quicker. If it drops too much during the release, you risk stalling the engine.

[Crapdaz]

did you install yourself or get a place to?
how much it set you back and where you get it done?
cheers, thumbs up to you aaron.

[aaronng]

Get a workshop to install it for you. It is not a DIY job because you have to drop the subframe to get the gearbox out. Call up Hanny's for quotes I guess.

[Suntzu]

yeah also interested in installation costs.

So aaronng you dont reckon the performance gain is worth the cost+install? Whats the bang for buck?

[aaronng]

yeah also interested in installation costs.

So aaronng you dont reckon the performance gain is worth the cost+install? Whats the bang for buck?

Install it when your current clutch wears out. When I took mine out, the original clutch still had a lot of meat left on it...

[Suntzu]

How many Ks with that much meat? Can you estimate a percentage of life left ?

[aaronng]

65k with 4 trackdays. Hmm, I reckon it can reach 100k.

[Crapdaz]

suntzu, just do it!

hehe

[Crapdaz]

hey guys,
i might be getting a aftermarket clutch and F/W.

i think my clutch is slipping as it doesnt have a strong pull when i engage as much, sometimes i think i smell a burning smell but when i try to find it i can't.

You reckon it's the clutch?

thanks guys. Daz

[aaronng]

Are you resting your foot on the clutch pedal?
Could be time for a clutch change.......

[Crapdaz]

Are you resting your foot on the clutch pedal?
Could be time for a clutch change.......

no not resting normally i shift and release my foot.
I think i do need to change.

Just to confirm, does the TSX exedy clutches fit 100% to our euros?

[Suntzu]

More feedback aaronng on the lightweight flywheel now you have had it settled in?

[aaronng]

no not resting normally i shift and release my foot.
I think i do need to change.

Just to confirm, does the TSX exedy clutches fit 100% to our euros?

Be aware that if you buy a TSX exedy clutch, it could be a k20a clutch which won't fit to the K24a flywheel. As discussed earlier in this thread, the proper k24a clutch has a slightly wider diameter. So make sure you get the right one. The exedy kits with lightweight flywheel and clutch being advertised for the TSX are actually K20A parts, not K24A. If you get a K24A clutch, you can just change the clutch alone. If you get the K20A clutch, you need a K20A flywheel as well.

Check the diameter of the clutch on the item listing. The larger diameter one is for K24A's flywheel. If you are getting a clutch and flywheel kit, then you can get the K20A one since you are getting the matching K20A flywheel as well.

[aaronng]

More feedback aaronng on the lightweight flywheel now you have had it settled in?

It's nice. Has better response than stock. Shifting is a bit quicker because I don't have to wait as long for the revs to drop to the correct RPM when upshifting. Only downside is that you need a bit more throttle when taking off, especially when on an uphill incline. As I mentioned before, I wished I got the Stage 1 clutch instead of the OEM because I have the K20A kit, which has a smaller diameter and lower torque/power rating.

[Crapdaz]

Be aware that if you buy a TSX exedy clutch, it could be a k20a clutch which won't fit to the K24a flywheel. As discussed earlier in this thread, the proper k24a clutch has a slightly wider diameter. So make sure you get the right one. The exedy kits with lightweight flywheel and clutch being advertised for the TSX are actually K20A parts, not K24A. If you get a K24A clutch, you can just change the clutch alone. If you get the K20A clutch, you need a K20A flywheel as well.

Check the diameter of the clutch on the item listing. The larger diameter one is for K24A's flywheel. If you are getting a clutch and flywheel kit, then you can get the K20A one since you are getting the matching K20A flywheel as well.

Thanks for the refresher, i remember reading about that.
yeh will prob fork out the money and try and get it done soon.

[aaronng]

Thanks for the refresher, i remember reading about that.
yeh will prob fork out the money and try and get it done soon.

Ask around for clutch and flywheel install pricings first. :) I've heard that Hannys does it for pretty cheap.

[Crapdaz]

Ask around for clutch and flywheel install pricings first. :) I've heard that Hannys does it for pretty cheap.
Did you buy the Exedy Part no. HCK1001?

[aaronng]

Did you buy the Exedy Part no. HCK1001?

No, I bought the HF02 flywheel with the matching 215mm OEM clutch disc and pressure plate.

Check if HCK1001 has a 215mm or 225mm clutch plate. The OEM Euro plate and flywheel are 225mm.

[Crapdaz]

No, I bought the HF02 flywheel with the matching 215mm OEM clutch disc and pressure plate.

Check if HCK1001 has a 215mm or 225mm clutch plate. The OEM Euro plate and flywheel are 225mm.

Thanks for that this is the spec for HCK1001

Disc(mm) 225

Disc(in) 8-7/8

Spline Dia 1-1/32

Spline Count 24

I'll prob go with HCK1001.

[aaronng]

Thanks for that this is the spec for HCK1001

Disc(mm) 225

Disc(in) 8-7/8

Spline Dia 1-1/32

Spline Count 24

I'll prob go with HCK1001.

Yeah, that should work with your stock flywheel.

[Crapdaz]

Yeah, that should work with your stock flywheel.
stated that the HCK1001 comes with a flywheel.

i might actually go for Stage 1 exedy with the HF02 flywheel, more expensive but prob prefers a bit more thrashing.

[aaronng]

stated that the HCK1001 comes with a flywheel.

i might actually go for Stage 1 exedy with the HF02 flywheel, more expensive but prob prefers a bit more thrashing.

Could you post up the specs of the flywheel too?

[Crapdaz]

Could you post up the specs of the flywheel too?
been trying to look for the flywheel spec for hck1001 kit but cant find any.

[aaronng]

been trying to look for the flywheel spec for hck1001 kit but cant find any.

Have fun with the HF02. But then again, it might be better if you hold out and try my car first... Just in case you don't like the revs dropping quickly during shifts.

[Suntzu]

Love to have a drive aarrong also if your ever in canberra. Be happy for you to try my jtune beastie.

really keen for this mod but install cost is a muther.

[aaronng]

Love to have a drive aarrong also if your ever in canberra. Be happy for you to try my jtune beastie.

really keen for this mod but install cost is a muther.

Will let you know if I come to Canberra. I have driven an extreme jtune Euro before. Hmm, the feeling is different compared to a lightweight flywheel. The lightweight flywheel Euro will rev up quick in the low to mid RPM, but high RPM stays the same. Flatspots which are on the stock ECU tune are also more apparent. The jtune extreme on the other hand has more torque, almost no flatspots and when you shift at redline, will pull just as hard in the next gear. Of course, the lightweight fly is cheaper. hehehehe.

[Crapdaz]

damn so tempting to just get it.... sigh

[tony1234]

Have fun with the HF02. But then again, it might be better if you hold out and try my car first... Just in case you don't like the revs dropping quickly during shifts.
I'd be interested to drive yours Aaron.see how it now compares with mine.when you last drove mine it was stock.

[Crapdaz]

I'd be interested to drive yours Aaron.see how it now compares with mine.when you last drove mine it was stock.
let us know if your going to test drive aarons, i'd like to find out too.

[aaronng]

So who is organising the next Euro meet? :) Can't be at HJ Sydenham though

[tony1234]

So who is organising the next Euro meet? :) Can't be at HJ Sydenham though
Where do you think is a good place to meet?

[aaronng]

P6 or somewhere where a test drive is possible.

[Crapdaz]

does that require to pay to enter P6?

[aaronng]

No need to pay. But if there is too big a congregation, security usually comes around. but if it is only a handful of cars, they are alright. The problem starts when you have over 50 cars.

[Crapdaz]

lol alright sounds good, i am up for it.
don't think like 50 euros are going to rock up.
that would be crazy.
let us know when....i am prob definite i will be upping my clutch + F/W but dont know whether to go for OEM replacement or Stage 1 and HF02.

[Suntzu]

Any more thoughts Crapdaz? Im also revisiting this, HF02 plus Stage 1 I think if i can find a decent install place with decent rates...

[Crapdaz]

yeh i am going to buy the stage one when i have the money suntzu but don't know when i'll put it on.

NOTE to self: AFTER i teach my girlfriend to drive manual.

Any plans for euro meet soon?

[aaronng]

yeh i am going to buy the stage one when i have the money suntzu but don't know when i'll put it on.

NOTE to self: AFTER i teach my girlfriend to drive manual.

Any plans for euro meet soon?

Organise one and we will come. :)

[tony1234]

Organise one and we will come. :)
I'll come.Aaron,want to drive your car with lightened flywheel and clutch upgrade.:p

[aaronng]

I'll come.Aaron,want to drive your car with lightened flywheel and clutch upgrade.:p

More like clutch downgrade. hahahah. We need a meet happening!

[Crapdaz]

More like clutch downgrade. hahahah. We need a meet happening!
true would love to see how the clutch and flywheel is like too.
you find it helps with having full load car?

[aaronng]

true would love to see how the clutch and flywheel is like too.
you find it helps with having full load car?

Full load? The stock Euro has more than enough grunt to drive normally with a full load in 1st gear. It is only when you reach cruising speed at 5th gear that the engine does not have enough torque. At 5th gear, the flywheel doesn't really make a difference. The effect of the long gearing cancels out the lighter flywheel

[enkay]

shorter final gear set ftw =P

o yea and im down for a syd euro meet again haha

[tony1234]

More like clutch downgrade. hahahah. We need a meet happening!
Overall how are you finding the clutch?Is it too light?What's the grip like?

[aaronng]

Overall how are you finding the clutch?Is it too light?What's the grip like?

Feels like stock. Maybe a bit lighter than stock pedal feel and also a little bit less grip I reckon.

[Suntzu]

If I did clutch and flywheel how much longer / hard do you reckon it would be to fit an LSD at the same time?

[aaronng]

If I did clutch and flywheel how much longer / hard do you reckon it would be to fit an LSD at the same time?

DIY?

I did it at a workshop, I helped as well. Took us 9 hours. The subframe is a BITCH

[racerwannabe]

This thread needs a bump :)

Just bought the exedy stage 1 clutch and the matching exedy RSX lightened flywheel HF02. The aussie dollar is so good at the moment i couldnt resist.

Anyhoo, people who have done this mod can you please provide an update on how this combo is holding up?

[dinoc]

Hi guys,

Any idea if the OEM US CL9 flywheel being lighter than OEM Euro CL9 flywheel ? Or do you know the weight of the OEM Euro CL9 flywheel?
I need to change my clutch so I was thinking to choose the OEM Honda clutch or go with the
nice Exedy OEM clutch kit (including flywheel) for the US CL9 HCK1001, if the TSX CL9 flywheel is lighter than Euro one :
http://www.exedyusa.com/oe/HCK1001
more details http://www.exedyusa.com/catalogs/OECatalog.pdf , search for HCK1001

[power_of_dreams]

Noticed some sounds coming from my car recently. Have noticed it 2-3 times when changing from 1st to 2nd. Not sure how to describe the sound, but it was a kind of knocking/skiddy sound. I think the most recent time I could feel some vibration through the gear knob.

Coming up to 90k, stock clutch. Is it my clutch? Could it be something else?