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STUNRZ
22-04-2008, 08:05 PM
hey im new to this form i recently bought my honda prelude 1992 si
it does have alot of balls for a prelude si
i have already got a power chip for the car
air intake
sports exsaust system
i guess preety standard mods but im looking at buying a turbo kit or supercharger kit to get that extra power
i have seen on american ebay there is turbo kits for like 1g+ but not sure what to do car has alraedy 200,000 + ks
but still is very strong just some advise on what to do get the most peformance out of it cheers :)

Bludger
23-04-2008, 02:19 AM
another super cheap budget turbo attempt

SXC-84K
23-04-2008, 03:21 AM
another super cheap budget turbo attempt

lol agreed... blown motor for sure...

y dont u just get a h22a conversion? the si is powerless... but if u really wanna FI ur si ur gonna need to strengthen ur motor, or it aint gonna last very long, even on 5psi...

Angrylarry
25-04-2008, 01:25 PM
i have already got a power chip for the car


Oh dear, it's not an e-bay instant 30bhp chip is it???

Mr_will
25-04-2008, 01:40 PM
maybe get one of those electric superchargers?


engine swap would be a much more sensible option for you sir

rayb3na_
25-04-2008, 04:56 PM
and then turbo/supercharge the h more reliable with FI =]

SXC-84K
25-04-2008, 05:07 PM
yes it will be "more" reliable however it wont be reliable with stock internals as the H has thin walls. it also depends on ur tuner, the tune will make or break ur setup. however if ur running stock internals ur motor aint gonna last very long before u need a rebuild, might aswel get it all done at the same time, then u can crank up the boost. ask grey-one (bao) shes got a gt35/40 turboed h22a stock internals think shes running 9psi atm with approx 180 atw

Joee
27-04-2008, 12:42 AM
If you turbo it at 200,XXX KM.... Your not going to have a good time. Chances are youd probably blow the motor within about 3 months.....

If you want to get the absolute most out of your car, i would suggest a h22..... From there you can decide how much you want to spend...... If you have the cash to spare i would advise a turbo rebuild with components able to take the pressure. You could vary easily spend 10k + on a turbo setup...... So decide what you want to get out of it....

prelude_boii
28-04-2008, 12:01 PM
was thinking about the same thing with my lude, dont got the cash though so im selling :( mines done 165. mmm , i read up on the american honda sites. alot of them suggest boosting the h23a rather than the h22a due to longer gear ratios i think. so people said in the forums anyway. another thing you could do is put a h22a head ontop of the h23 block. gains ALOT of pull etc. and im just gunna assume you could pick up a h23a engine cheaper that a h22a. looking at least 4 k for a engine swap, with that you could sell your prelude and buy a vtec h22a. lots to think about, hope ya have more luck than me with it. gl

dundas
29-04-2008, 07:03 PM
get a wrx :)

bigjo5
29-04-2008, 07:17 PM
was thinking about the same thing with my lude, dont got the cash though so im selling :( mines done 165. mmm , i read up on the american honda sites. alot of them suggest boosting the h23a rather than the h22a due to longer gear ratios i think. so people said in the forums anyway. another thing you could do is put a h22a head ontop of the h23 block. gains ALOT of pull etc. and im just gunna assume you could pick up a h23a engine cheaper that a h22a. looking at least 4 k for a engine swap, with that you could sell your prelude and buy a vtec h22a. lots to think about, hope ya have more luck than me with it. gl

lol i dont think they would choose to boost a h23a because of the gear box ratios lol.. u can just change gearbox or final drive to get different ratio... h23a cost more then h22a.
they prolly boost h23 cause its got higher compressoin ratios if thats what u mean.

aznpsuazn
03-05-2008, 01:06 AM
In order for us to help you, please tell us kind sirs how much money you have to spend. This factor governs all laws.

Benson
04-05-2008, 09:52 AM
there is a h22a in the forsale section for 2k.. Buy that and be happy.

JDMWhore
30-05-2008, 12:25 PM
N/A all the way!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
I don't know.. I like N/A cars better than turbo for some reason.. I think theres just a better responce out of them.. but the feel of turbo is great as well..
If it was me.. I'd try to get as much out of the car N/A first.. but yeh, thats just me talking lol.. hope you have fun with it, whatever you end up choosing =]

SXC-84K
30-05-2008, 01:04 PM
all out NA h22a is awesome however put it in a prelude and hell no... the car is around 1350kg... its a nugget... even with 150-160kw atw NA yes its crazy... and ull have heaps of fun on the street reving out at 9grand but if you line up against a turboed lude, yes ull beat him off the mark but he'll destroy u later on. so all in all its up to you what you want out of ur motor. but yeh ludes are not designed for a NA setup like s2ks, itrs and civics, best thing for a lude is to turbo it

JSpec3
30-05-2008, 03:09 PM
^^ so why are you doing NA mods?

b16a man
30-05-2008, 03:21 PM
What does a na h22a lude run with 150 - 160kw atw?high 12s low 13s?

SXC-84K
30-05-2008, 03:57 PM
^^ so why are you doing NA mods?

err im not?

SXC-84K
30-05-2008, 03:58 PM
What does a na h22a lude run with 150 - 160kw atw?high 12s low 13s?

probly 13.5 search youtube for "13.5 prelude" its a silver 5th gen CSI or C something something prelude cant remember

JSpec3
30-05-2008, 06:51 PM
err im not?

so why are you asking about headers and IM etc then?

SXC-84K
31-05-2008, 10:29 AM
so why are you asking about headers and IM etc then?

because i wanna know? or is that a problem?

Luder88
31-05-2008, 10:52 AM
turbo ludes ftw =)

JSpec3
31-05-2008, 12:32 PM
because i wanna know? or is that a problem?

no problem, just seems strange that you said you can source them for cheap prices and money is no issue etc. I just thought why would you be asking all this info if your not gonna use it? That's all, just weird to me :)

gReY-oNe
02-06-2008, 09:47 PM
its true tell us a budget and then we can help u out

just asking us wat u should do without a rough estimate of what u have to work with is hard for us.

to turbo a lude properly prob wont cost u as much as an N/A build get it tuned right and it will drive fine
( i personally would go back and do an n/a build but too late now)
mines been driving fine for nearly a yr now and its done close to 140000kms on a h22a so there not too bad to boost

espionage84
06-06-2008, 05:23 AM
lol @ the 2 charlies.

Jadz
13-06-2008, 12:11 PM
i have done the whole turbo thing and its a great exercise, but very costly, mind you mine in on a gen3, but i'd recommend a h22 conversion, then if its still not enough go turbo, and its alot easier with a h22 aswell

Ero_Sennin
14-06-2008, 08:16 PM
no point putting a turbo on your car
either get a engine conversion or stick to na
having a turbo means nothing except for just extra power
to me i dont need it

EKVTIR-T
14-06-2008, 08:32 PM
Stay NA and you will feel more hardcore lol.
I love that about NA guys. "Yeah man NA,I'm hardcore"

Boost for street,NA for track.
Make up your own mind in the end :)

Bludger
14-06-2008, 08:41 PM
get an electronic turbocharger.

you can turn it on or off with a switch.

best of both worlds.

A-man
22-06-2008, 10:06 PM
has anyone done a turbo/ supercharger to a 99 ish?? vtir prelude? with the h22a

ev0luti0nzer0
23-06-2008, 11:02 PM
greyone has.

Ero_Sennin
23-06-2008, 11:39 PM
yeah, heard greyone has

A-man
24-06-2008, 12:07 AM
those electric ones r BS


has anyone got pics and stuff??? im lookin at it for my bro... tryin to keep a/c p/s etc.

ev0luti0nzer0
26-06-2008, 02:06 AM
um ^ ... pics and stuff for the electric ones? :3...

A-man
27-06-2008, 08:35 PM
nah the turbo or superchargers not the electric ones....

u may aswell get a a/c fan and hook that into ur intake its stupid

SXC-84K
28-06-2008, 11:45 PM
come on preludeaustralia, UR34DY has a turboed prelude pushing 250kw atw

[NAV]
29-06-2008, 12:02 AM
^ now thats real power..

JSpec3
01-07-2008, 12:25 PM
come on preludeaustralia, UR34DY has a turboed prelude pushing 250kw atw

he doesn't have a 5g which is 99 ish which is what the guy asked. he has a 4g, even though it's basically the same engine.......

A-man
23-07-2008, 08:46 PM
reason i want a 5th gen is just because my bro was askin me bout his and what was invovled but without finding good pics or whatever i wasnt sure what was goin on... it doesnt always have to be costly if u know what ur doin and if r handy u can do it alot cheaper

damienm
23-07-2008, 09:55 PM
come on preludeaustralia, UR34DY has a turboed prelude pushing 250kw atw

he recently sold it, but yeh to get that kinda power the guy spent 20k on mods alone

gReY-oNe
24-07-2008, 06:25 PM
It true it dusnt always have to be expensive
not everyone can afford a rebuild

pick the right turbo and manifold for urself
but please dont opt for the cheap ass ebay deals
if it sounds too good to be true it prob is
get the right ecu, all fuel management and a tuner thats important cant stress that enough
you dont wnat ur motor blowin up
LOL

u can push max 9-10 psi daily before it gets a little dangerous
im currently only pushin 8psi on stock internals

anyway u can pm if u want pics or more details

SXC-84K
24-07-2008, 08:44 PM
he recently sold it, but yeh to get that kinda power the guy spent 20k on mods alone

he didnt spend 20grand on it, he spent ALOT less than 20grand... and i know his already sold it cause im dating his sister and his my mechanic

A-man
24-07-2008, 10:52 PM
i got a ebay kit and im gonna make it happen... i dont agree with that

gReY-oNe
25-07-2008, 12:13 AM
^^^^ ok...
prove the rest of us wrong

Joe kickarse
25-07-2008, 10:47 AM
Powered by Ebay.

damienm
10-08-2008, 12:38 PM
he didnt spend 20grand on it, he spent ALOT less than 20grand... and i know his already sold it cause im dating his sister and his my mechanic

hahhaa tuan said he spent 20 grand but yeh i guess youre right since his your mechanic

SXC-84K
10-08-2008, 12:58 PM
it woulda been 20k + INCLUDING labour, however yeh him and is dad built it themselves. it was like 15-17k JUST for parts however

Bob
11-08-2008, 11:02 PM
Take a trip to bunnings. Add 1 petrol powered leaf blower and and a roll of duct tape. Seal the blower to the intake and you will have heaps more fun than any ebay turbo.

Its cheap for a reason. Dont do it.

midnitebluevtec
15-07-2009, 01:13 AM
if you want a supercharger, have a look at jackson racing. Im not sure if you can get it here in Australia though but do your research. For turbo, personally i would choose the H22a1 or A4, really up to you. But make sure you rebuild the engine so it can withstand the power of turbo. So you can start off by getting forged rods and piston rings to strengthen your engine. Some people from US use type S piston rings and rods, also you also have to resleeve ur engine to iron , a brand commonly use is called darton. To add an extra aggression add LSD, a brand commonly used is quaiffee