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TypeG
09-09-2004, 02:01 PM
Any input from you guys will be great
price to performance, who to go

Jus-10
09-09-2004, 02:10 PM
Headers you are limited to Spoon or Mugen (Spoon being the cheaper of the 2), or a custom job.

Exhaust wise, if you want a bolt-on catback system you are limited to Spoon, Buddy Club and Fujitsubo as far as I know.

The Fujitsubo is the cheapest, and the Spoon and BC are about the same price (a little bit more than Fuji). The BC is too loud and hangs way too low for my liking. Even at stock height mine would hit the ground on occasion. Besides that it is too loud and you lose too much bottom end for it to be any good as an everyday road system.

You can get mufflers from pretty much any of the big Jap brands, but they simply bolt on at the back and are more for sound and looks more than anything else.

TypeG
10-09-2004, 01:12 AM
I cant find header on the spoon web site....
it is 421 or 41?
I prefer 421 since it got better low end power

Jus-10
10-09-2004, 08:33 AM
On the Spoon site, go to the Fit Parts link, and it is in with all the exhaust and manifold part.

It is a 4-1 design just like the Mugen. To be honest I don't even think there is enough room for a good 4-2-1. I haven't looked closely at the factory one but it must go close to being a 4-1 design given the limited amount of room and distance to the cat.

The cat looks to be a strange design and looks quite akward, Not sure how well it flows, but that might be an area for a bit of improvement

TypeG
10-09-2004, 10:03 AM
oic, so u know any review on spoon and mugen header coz i quote for $1200 landed which is very nice...

Jus-10
10-09-2004, 10:35 AM
I haven't seen any review or comparison of either of them, so that's why I am a bit hesitant about buying them. I'll wait and see how you go first :P

$1200 landed for the Mugen one sounds about right

Jus-10
10-09-2004, 10:35 AM
I haven't seen any review or comparison of either of them, so that's why I am a bit hesitant about buying them. I'll wait and see how you go first :p

$1200 landed for the Mugen one sounds about right

TypeG
10-09-2004, 07:53 PM
spoon one is 421 if u see the picture carefully
I am going to give it a go together with spoon filter and trottlebody

petrovski
11-09-2004, 01:12 PM
http://61.213.172.41/images/lineup/070_01.jpg

where is the 2? (ie in 4-2-1)

it looks like 4-1 to me :confused:

Pete :)

TypeG
11-09-2004, 01:22 PM
see the one in mugen-power.com and compare it. it looks like 421 to me and as well hondar which going to import for me in the next shippment. the 2 part is very shory and make it to 1 instead of 4 straight join to 1. there is nth in the spoon site regard to this so i have no idea....

Jus-10
12-09-2004, 07:53 PM
Spoon is 4-1....all 4 collect in to the 1.

No way its 4-2-1. It is an equal length 4-1.

Spoon TB works on exchange generally unless you can find a stray one in Hong Kong or Indo or something. Remeber it is just an OEM Jazz/Fit TB that has been bored out a couple of mm and you will pay around $700-$800 for the privelage...

TypeG
12-09-2004, 08:11 PM
i dunno man...
that's what hondar told me
TB is around $600landed as i get quote b4.

going to put the money to Z account for spoon products
so will be able to give u guys a review on that.
However, I still dunno what exhuast to go since i still want to wait until my mugen bar arrive and fitted first

Jus-10
13-09-2004, 08:06 AM
I think you will find, that with the manifolds, the Mugen one on their site is just on a different angle to the Spoon one. They are quite similar looking in design, it's just that you can see more of the Mugen one than the Spoon one.

That's a good price for the TB. Can't wait to see how it all comes together.

TypeG
13-09-2004, 01:12 PM
i am not going for TB for some reason. =)

strepto
29-06-2005, 06:16 PM
You'll also notice that Honda is releasing a revised mainfold now - for the jazz - in stainless steel.

http://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseriesphoto/vtec3.jpg

devil
29-06-2005, 06:54 PM
isnt that the stock manifold for the jazz? according to the review on www.vtec.net.asia it says that the stock manifold is stainless steel....and that looks like the same picture from the website...

strepto
29-06-2005, 07:06 PM
I could be on the VTi maybe. Wont make much diffrence for me, cos we dont get the VTi here. Only the 1.4 iDSI.

devil
29-06-2005, 07:13 PM
oh...i see. u guys only have 1 engine model to there?

strepto
29-06-2005, 07:41 PM
Yes, in Europe, only the 1.4iDSI is avail.. So I need to swap :)

kuso
29-06-2005, 08:04 PM
How much different does the stock headers look when compared to the aftermarket ones... spoon, mugen etc. Anyone got pics for comparison. Is the piping larger in diameter for better performance?

Zimp13
29-06-2005, 08:07 PM
How much different does the stock headers look when compared to the aftermarket ones... spoon, mugen etc. Anyone got pics for comparison. Is the piping larger in diameter for better performance?

this is xforce one....

http://img48.echo.cx/img48/488/header4el.jpg

oem one

http://img48.echo.cx/img48/1488/oemheader0031un.jpg

spoon fit
29-06-2005, 10:31 PM
i am not going for TB for some reason. =)


WHY? :confused:

devil
30-06-2005, 12:44 AM
wow...the xforce header tubes does look considerably larger that the stock one, and even looks better quality :)

asiansquad
30-06-2005, 02:19 AM
and the car feels better after installing it :D

Zimp13
30-06-2005, 09:22 AM
wow...the xforce header tubes does look considerably larger that the stock one, and even looks better quality :)

yeah.... u cant beat the value of it... hehehe.... :D

ASSASSIN
30-06-2005, 01:01 PM
Can get a Tanabe one for you 995 delivered.

Edit
Exhaust that is.

felixR
30-06-2005, 01:16 PM
this is xforce one....

http://img48.echo.cx/img48/488/header4el.jpg

oem one


those headers look pretty damm cute lol :p

muli
30-06-2005, 02:02 PM
tonys engine had a M3 like metallic noise to it, sounded nice

kuso
30-06-2005, 02:31 PM
metallic noise?

SiR CRX
30-06-2005, 03:10 PM
I am just wondering if I could get Spoon headers and exhaust system but then get a cat-back from another brand? I noticed That a full Spoon exhaust consists of three parts but I don't like the look of the Spoon muffler so could I mix and match and will everything bolt together ok?

Zimp13
30-06-2005, 04:19 PM
I am just wondering if I could get Spoon headers and exhaust system but then get a cat-back from another brand? I noticed That a full Spoon exhaust consists of three parts but I don't like the look of the Spoon muffler so could I mix and match and will everything bolt together ok?

of cos u can.... i know people mix and match their full system.... cheers

kimo
30-06-2005, 10:21 PM
Hi,

Can I just install the header and keep my stock exhaust. Will I gain power

Zimp13
30-06-2005, 10:34 PM
Hi,

Can I just install the header and keep my stock exhaust. Will I gain power

yes u will.... the gain is greater than changing the muffler alone.....

strepto
30-06-2005, 10:42 PM
The gain is in the header and testpipe/cat. The rest of for show and sound.

Zimp13
30-06-2005, 10:44 PM
The gain is in the header and testpipe/cat. The rest of for show and sound.

i m glad that we have the same thinking... hehehe.... thats wat i ve been telling people that i know....

strepto
30-06-2005, 11:05 PM
I'd love to get my hands on a system, and dyno it. Of course, actually having a Jazz first would be a good idea :)

Zimp13
30-06-2005, 11:27 PM
I'd love to get my hands on a system, and dyno it. Of course, actually having a Jazz first would be a good idea :)

jazz is fun and affordable....

kimo
01-07-2005, 02:46 AM
What about the cat is there anything we can do for the cat, has anyone install high cat. In my 2 previous cars I took the cat off and wow what a performance, butthe problem in the Jazz it has 2 oxg sensors which for sure will light the check engine. My friend told me it will only consume more gas, as the sensors will read wrong. Any ideas.

strepto
01-07-2005, 03:44 AM
You use an o2 simulator :) The second one has nothing to do with the A/F curve, it only makes sure the generic output is within limits, so you fool it to think that its all cool. I've been using this: http://www.wiredspeed.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ECG%2DO2SIM&eq=&Tp=

kimo
01-07-2005, 04:19 AM
You use an o2 simulator :) The second one has nothing to do with the A/F curve, it only makes sure the generic output is within limits, so you fool it to think that its all cool. I've been using this: http://www.wiredspeed.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ECG%2DO2SIM&eq=&Tp=


So you off you cat off and you are using the 02 simulator.

strepto
01-07-2005, 04:49 AM
So you off you cat off and you are using the 02 simulator.

Uhm.. If you mean "did I use a testpipe and an o2 simulator" the answer is yes.

kimo
01-07-2005, 08:09 AM
Uhm.. If you mean "did I use a testpipe and an o2 simulator" the answer is yes.



What is a testpipe is it a normal pipe and you just install the sensors. Do you have to buy the simulator for jazz or it's a universal type, what about the gain.

Zimp13
01-07-2005, 11:17 AM
no cat get caught big fines in oz.... better put hi flo cat rather than the O2 simulator.... with power gain always more petrol..... there is no such thing as save petrol increase performance....

TypeG
01-07-2005, 11:53 AM
also it is smelly without the cat too

asiansquad
01-07-2005, 01:57 PM
my car wasn't smelly without the cat

but was pretty loud and the malfunction indicator got annoying