LPG conversion

[metallica22]

Hi,
Is it possible to convert the Euro to LPG fuel?Has anyone here done it?
Cheers,

[panda[cRx]]

it's not recommended by honda to convert ANY of their vehicles to LPG.
the maintenance and rebuild costs willl far outway any savings in fuel costs.

oh and it will void any chance of warranty repairs

to be blunt DO NOT DO IT

[Suntzu]

PFFT!

Why LPG.

Im saying : CNG all the way baby. Fill that puppy up at home. Half the cost of LPG and tuned right more POWA. Got to increase the compression to 12.5 but and remap the ecu.

Be expensive, but very cool.

[6MT]

I have seen an accord 2.4lt converted to LPG (but in UK I think) see pic in the following website

http://www.gascarco.com/gallery/album64

the lpg tank stored in spare wheel well is kinda neat so it does not rob boot space, but not too sure about technicallity or whether they have any branch in oz

There is oz company who provides LPG kit for honda, at the moment only to CRV 2.4lt, I suppose the engine is similar to euro only tuned differently?

see this website

http://www.australianlpgwarehouse.com.au/news.htm

when I asked them about LPG kit for euro, they said it is still in the development and might be available within 3 months

[power_of_dreams]

If it doesn't come in an lpg option from stock, don't even bother.

[Crapdaz]

LPG has less performance gain.

[6MT]

Obviously not.... there is less energy per volume in the LPG compared to regular fuel

the only gain would be in the hip pocket .... :)

[r-r-redEuro]

LPG has less performance gain.

correction
LPG IS Less Performance Gain.

[ms700]

LPG is fantastic.

For BBQ's and central heating.

Oh, and taxi's.

Thats all.

If you are worried about fuel consumption, buy a Hybrid, and save all the petrol so we can put it to good use!

[Crapdaz]

LPG is fantastic.

For BBQ's and central heating.

Oh, and taxi's.

Thats all.

If you are worried about fuel consumption, buy a Hybrid, and save all the petrol so we can put it to good use!

DO THE CONVERSION, so we can have bbq's in your boot. :p

[LUD35]

there is absolutely no point in converting a Euro to LPG. Firstly, the K24a3's are pretty damn good on fuel economy in the first place. Secondly you are robbing the car of good power which means you will have to press the pedal further down to get the accelleration - thus you will most likely use more gas then petrol which destroys the financial incentive to change.

on the other hand....IF it was a 1970's Chevy big block that makes 600 hp or somthing ridiculous...then yeah it would be worth it, because it might only lose 50hp...50hp is nothing when ure making 600 or so.. but its pointless on a car that makes only 140hp atw stock approx.

my 2 cents

[Crapdaz]

there is absolutely no point in converting a Euro to LPG. Firstly, the K24a3's are pretty damn good on fuel economy in the first place. Secondly you are robbing the car of good power which means you will have to press the pedal further down to get the accelleration - thus you will most likely use more gas then petrol which destroys the financial incentive to change.

on the other hand....IF it was a 1970's Chevy big block that makes 600 hp or somthing ridiculous...then yeah it would be worth it, because it might only lose 50hp...50hp is nothing when ure making 600 or so.. but its pointless on a car that makes only 140hp atw stock approx.

my 2 cents

every kw/hp counts, so don't convert to LPG.

[panda[cRx]]

it's nothing to do with kw, it will f*ck ur engine

[IVTECS4]

I personally don't see the benefit of LPG anyway... first that big massive tank will probably or most likely take away space - and destroy some practicality - spare wheel removed, plus the fuel consumption will be even worse . As Panda[CRX] said it will bugger up the engine .

The only benefit is that you will most likely save money in costs in comparison to petrol or diesel... but I will stick to petrol and diesel vehicles.

[JohnL]

;1736085']it's nothing to do with kw, it will f*ck ur engine

How? Plenty of taxis last 1,000,000+km running lpg. It's a very good fuel if you can live with a performance drop. It also has a very high octane characteristics, so perhaps lpg + supercharger?

If you want to avoid the worst lpg performance drop then you'd avoid 'dual-fuel' set ups because lpg likes much higher compression ratios (or boost levels) than petrol. If you run lpg only then a good conversion includes a very substantial CR increase for max power / economy, in which case you can't run petrol as it will detonate. Dual fuel loses power / economy compared to a good lpg only system.

The only reason you'd even consider it is fuel cost, so you'd need to do a cost comparison between leaving it alone vs fitting the lpg system and how many km it would then take to break even. At the rate petrol is increasing in cost, lpg might start looking extremely attractive very soon, performance drop or not. That is if you can even get your car converted with the queues waiting to get converted only getting longer...

[JohnL]

I personally don't see the benefit of LPG anyway... .
You will...


As Panda[CRX] said it will bugger up the engine .
How so will it "bugger up the engine"?


The only benefit is that you will most likely save money in costs in comparison to petrol or diesel...

This is a very very compelling benefit. In case you haven't noticed petrol is getting quite expensive, but if you think it's expensive now then you're in for a very rude shock in a few years (or even earlier). Petrol may go up and down short term, but longer term there is no escaping the relentless price increases.

[yfin]

There are some Australian companies doing gas conversions for the K24. Haven't seen it for the Euro yet but here is one doing the CRV

http://www.australianlpgwarehouse.com.au/CRV_Bro.pdf

If it was my car I wouldn't bother with LPG on a Honda. The fuel consumption goes up, performance is not as good and reliability of the engine becomes questionable. You will lose any engine warranty and Honda don't recommend LPG conversions. The consumption on the Euro is respectable anyway so if LPG is seriously being considered I would sell the Euro and buy something else - like an efficient diesel.

[KennyK]

Hi,
Some info re Gas conversion. I have successfully(so far) done LPG conversion to my last and present Accord VTiL 2.4 engine. My last car travelled about 30,000 Ks before I traded to the present car which had 23,000 Ks when I bought it. I am very pleased with the performance(The tech who fitted it was too) I am happy with the economy.I average 11.5/100 mostly around town whereas I averaged 9.5 on petrol. I am saving between $25-$30 each week at present, and have calculated i will cover the money spent in about 16 months.
My service manager recommends that I have the valve clearances adjusted every 5,000 Ks
KennyK

[rodericb]

The payback period for LPG is quite a long time - and that's just to break even. You should also factor in extra servicing costs due to the conversion (if required like the post above - LOL!). I wouldn't do it - just pay more attention to how you drive so you use less petrol! God, it's not hard, you can get a readout of the fuel consumption rate in the LCD display in the intrument cluster.....drive so the little bars don't go so far across to the right.

[power_of_dreams]

Hi,
Some info re Gas conversion. I have successfully(so far) done LPG conversion to my last and present Accord VTiL 2.4 engine. My last car travelled about 30,000 Ks before I traded to the present car which had 23,000 Ks when I bought it. I am very pleased with the performance(The tech who fitted it was too) I am happy with the economy.I average 11.5/100 mostly around town whereas I averaged 9.5 on petrol. I am saving between $25-$30 each week at present, and have calculated i will cover the money spent in about 16 months.
My service manager recommends that I have the valve clearances adjusted every 5,000 Ks
KennyK

wtf, you average 11.5/100 on lpg, and 9.5/100 on petrol? are you sure it's not the other way around?

even then 11.5/100 on city petrol is rediculous. changing your driving style ought to fix that.