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sharky
26-08-2003, 09:47 PM
I have a '95 GSi Teg and it needs power!!
I was wondering if any of you know how much it would cost and if it would be worth it. ie having to replacing cams, pistons, etc aswell

Jnr Teggy
26-08-2003, 09:56 PM
allow $10k to do it properly..


it will only be worth the trouble if you do it properly..


if you are going to do it....do it right the first time..

have someone make you a kit!

i.e: don't just slap one together for the cheapest you can go..

save a little longer and do it right...you will save in the long run..

Get yourself a good turbo and cooler(new is best), take it to a turbo exhaust shop and have them fabricate the pipework for you and fit all of the hardware..

Then trailer it to a performance shop and have them fit an aftermarket computer and fuel system!...a Heavy duty clutch is worth its weight in gold...perhaps even a set of forgef pistons and rods just for safety...get it tuned then presto!...one quick ass honda!

at least then you will feel safe in knowing that it will start first go in the morning! and wont break or die when you give it a hit..

wynode
26-08-2003, 10:21 PM
Jnr Teggy is right, except I think it will be a bit cheaper than 10K. With my shopping around it came to around 7K for a good package.

Do it right and you can drive around on 6-8psi daily on stock compression. The Gsi has pretty strong internals so unless you won't big HP you will be fine. VTEC doesn't offer any advantages over non VTEC for turbo setups (there was a big debate about this on honda-tech awhile back) so you're not missing out on anything.

If you do it right, you'll enjoy it.

Calvo
26-08-2003, 10:29 PM
isnt it better to turbo a non-vtec car?
coz of how vtec works, isnt it not suited for turbo?
i dunno. lol.

Jnr Teggy
26-08-2003, 10:31 PM
isnt it better to turbo a non-vtec car?
coz of how vtec works, isnt it not suited for turbo?
i dunno. lol.

the vtec actually helps the turbo spool up believe it or not!

Calvo
26-08-2003, 10:32 PM
yeh? well i guess i just learnt sumfin new!!
i thought coz of that compression stuff. or sumfin or rather. but hey. all the better :D

Jnr Teggy
26-08-2003, 10:35 PM
high compression means low boost..

unless you get serious with intercooling, internals and tuning

Calvo
26-08-2003, 10:56 PM
ahh k.
its all good :D

wynode
26-08-2003, 10:58 PM
high compression means low boost..



I like to read it as High compression means 'lower' boost :).

I like the idea of a (resonably) high compression engine (arond 9.5-10) running good boost to give nice throttle response.

poid
26-08-2003, 11:22 PM
I like to read it as High compression means 'lower' boost :).

I like the idea of a (resonably) high compression engine (arond 9.5-10) running good boost to give nice throttle response.

Amen!!

The setup i have priced is about 8k, however that even includes the clutch, elec. boost controller, turbo timer etc (extra goodies i threw in :)), even a gauge or two

INFLYT
27-08-2003, 12:13 AM
Or you could alway's go for an all out package like the 11.4 second Integra at Croydon. :D

poid
27-08-2003, 10:02 AM
That Integra has had a lot fo problems during its life though :)

Still, it set that 11.4 time like 3 years ago now, and is daily driven :D

Jnr Teggy
27-08-2003, 10:25 AM
thats what i like...daily driven road weapons!

sharky
27-08-2003, 11:25 AM
yeah those prices arent a surpise. A place here in adelaide quoted me $5500 for a supercharger set up. I rekon ill jus keep on saving up and put in a turbo, i know some guys in the industry who can give me a good deal when it comes to manifolds, intercoolers and plumbing.

Weq
27-08-2003, 12:27 PM
U could no doubt graba kit from the US for a turbo setup for around 4-5grand, but it all depends on what u goels are? how much hp and what kinda extra mods u wanna go for?

vti-2
27-08-2003, 12:48 PM
How extreme do you want to go?

Most Honda's can be boosted on about 8psi safely without doing internals.

one more chance
27-08-2003, 04:09 PM
I have a '95 GSi Teg and it needs power!!
I was wondering if any of you know how much it would cost and if it would be worth it. ie having to replacing cams, pistons, etc aswell


the B18B block is actually quite good for turbocharging as it has lower compression then the B18C. for 10K that'll include forged pistons and maybe even shot-peened rods...depending if u wanna go that far! but you should be able to do within 8K. it all dpends on what u want and how far you're willing to push the limits...

sharky
27-08-2003, 05:37 PM
when it comes to turbos im in the dark, have have no real idea. Going on advice ive been given ive been thinking something small like a T25 or maybe a bit bigger. Basically something to bring it off the 115Kw (at the fly) mark, make it a bit of a road weapon.

sharky
27-08-2003, 05:42 PM
actually, stuff the modest s**t, for around 7K what could i do to make it a commy beating beast! U guys tell me :D

one more chance
02-09-2003, 02:17 PM
a T25 is the turbo off a older model sr20.....not that small, but not huge at the same time. but if ur refering to a GT25 HKS item, these things are fairly huge and flow heaps better!

poid
02-09-2003, 02:35 PM
a nice garrett GT25 should flow a reasonable amount, or if that's out of your budget (about $1400 new) a second hand s15 or s14 T28 BB turbo should do nicely. Something that size should still spool up quickly enough and be a nice streetable turbo.

jansenrw
04-09-2003, 06:25 PM
ahh crap another honda boy to the dark side nooooooooo...

seriously dude, with a fwd car your kinda startin off on the wrong foot. You want linear power on request, go N/A

also i reckon minimum 6k to spend trust me I've been there!!!!

There's alot of things to think of..

ECU, injectors (ugrade from 240cc to around 340cc), fuel pump, adj fpr, turbo, cooler, piping, new piping, wouldnt hurt to decomp the car.. e.t.c


saying that, N/A will be a more expensive part..

I'f your really determined on developing power, go to www.honda-tech.com and search hmm there's a guy in Austria making 420 whp!!! will get the name to you, he has posted his setup....

thinks its skafia

Jnr Teggy
04-09-2003, 06:28 PM
just remember..


turbo's are for rich people!

integra97
13-09-2003, 07:29 PM
If you turbo on a B18B you will get around 120kw @ the wheels on 7psi.

Thats no internals.

Cost is around $10,000 if you want it done properly.

one more chance
15-09-2003, 07:03 PM
I have a '95 GSi Teg and it needs power!!
I was wondering if any of you know how much it would cost and if it would be worth it. ie having to replacing cams, pistons, etc aswell


the B18B block is actually quite good for turbocharging as it has lower compression then the B18C. for 10K that'll include forged pistons and maybe even shot-peened rods...depending if u wanna go that far! but you should be able to do within 8K. it all dpends on what u want and how far you're willing to push the limits...

Slaz
16-09-2003, 01:27 AM
That Integra has had a lot fo problems during its life though :)

Still, it set that 11.4 time like 3 years ago now, and is daily driven :D

Daily driven my arse...
It's sat in their workshop for 3 years too...

Spinout
18-07-2004, 11:31 PM
Could anyone suggest what I could do getting more power into a GSi without getting it turbo'd?
The first thing I am doing is changing my tranny to manual.

Integ LS
19-07-2004, 10:42 AM
I got this priced for my Teg its $1000 a second they wanted $14500 for this set up but includes Vtecing my motor.

pornstar
19-07-2004, 11:13 AM
Integ LS, whoever ur going wtih doesnt know hondas then man....

As for linear power this crap and that crap, u might hvae goen boosted [acronym:e6a9f6eb7e="Front Wheel Drive"]FWD[/acronym:e6a9f6eb7e] before, yer, in ur dreams. Linear my A$$, check out any of my mates b16a motors that are boosted, they look linear enough to me, oh adn they also make 30kws more than ur gay linear OMG dont TURBO this religous [acronym:e6a9f6eb7e="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:e6a9f6eb7e] NA machine YO!

tinkerbell
20-07-2004, 01:17 PM
If you turbo on a B18B you will get around 120kw @ the wheels on 7psi.

Thats no internals.

Cost is around $10,000 if you want it done properly.

for what it is worth, i get 121kw out of a stock internaled B20VTEC

cost = 8000ish (DIY)

tinkerbell
20-07-2004, 01:18 PM
That Integra has had a lot fo problems during its life though :)

Still, it set that 11.4 time like 3 years ago now, and is daily driven :D

Daily driven my arse...
It's sat in their workshop for 3 years too...

LOL!

Integ LS
02-08-2004, 01:28 PM
Yeah thats why I didnt get it done The quote was from Croydon auto sports same set up as the 11.4 runing balck teg they built last time I saw it run at Heathcote they blew the Head.Not to mention the thing also has NOS hokked up.

jay1991
07-05-2010, 09:43 AM
ey guys, ive been reading all the stuff about turbo charging a teg...ive got a dc4 and WAS considering an engine swap to a vtec...is there any point? or shud i consider turbo charge? how much kw am i lookin out? coz atm im gettn b/w 100-115 with my gsi...all it has is an exhaust and pod....but has become much fasta wen i added these...cheers