View Full Version : Ebay D turbo kit ! ?
yuentinlon
11-06-2008, 05:20 AM
i saw a lot of D16 turbo kit on ebay and they are really cheap
1000 - 1500 AU$
and i know the ebay turbo kit 's manifold is really bad .... so can i just buy a better one to replace that manifold ??
if not... can u give me some idea where can i get a turbo kit and what will be the price ...
and i got a D16Y1 at the moment and done 210000 KM already
i know i should do comp. test and some other before, but where can i
do that in around brisbane and what will be the price ??
if i dont want to spend too much and i concern about the petrol consumption
is it i can keep all the stock internal and gain about 200 hp [a bit better than a B18C ]?? coz i want to do 0 - 100 KM within 7-8s , is that possible ?
also for the emanage tuning and labour cost .... what will that cost me[turbo and ecu tuning] ?
i know my english is suck .... but please help me work out those problem >.<
thanks a lot >.<
search... there are many threads on here and build ups of turboed d's
ps 200hp is a high target especially for an ebay kit. but the stock internals should handle it, most are able to handle up to 250hp, mind u ur engine has a fair few km's on it....
Zdster
11-06-2008, 09:29 AM
Ebay+Turbo Kit = lol
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78877
Limbo
11-06-2008, 01:54 PM
have a look at lukezy's setup. That should be almost what you want and within you budget range
yuentinlon
11-06-2008, 05:25 PM
who is lukezy ??
can u give me the link >.< thanks
Limbo
11-06-2008, 05:31 PM
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79182
yuentinlon
11-06-2008, 05:53 PM
thanks and now i am think about a greddy kit
is that good and do u know what can i get it ?
Sexc86
11-06-2008, 06:04 PM
If its not a creditable brand name ... then dont touch it.
must be, greddy, avo, edlebrock, fullrace, or custom built with qualtiy brand name parts only.
Dont get attracted to shit that looks nice because it has polished pipes but has no creditable manufactures behind it.
hondavti25
11-06-2008, 06:32 PM
dont touch them dude one way or another they fall apart... and its nothing but a headace from what ive read to fit them and get them working consitantly
aimre
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
thanks and now i am think about a greddy kit
is that good and do u know what can i get it ?
Ebay. there about $1400US
Buy it, get a cooler ($150) and new piping (custom) and a 2.5 inch exhaust (3 maybe, 2.5 is enough) then boost its to 7.
Stock is 5, u can run safely on 7 with a cooler. Get a retune and new injectors and u can run 12.
Despite what some people would lead u to believe, running 7 psi on the stock greddy map is fine, weqs did it, i did, luke did it
yuentinlon
11-06-2008, 10:26 PM
Ebay. there about $1400US
Buy it, get a cooler ($150) and new piping (custom) and a 2.5 inch exhaust (3 maybe, 2.5 is enough) then boost its to 7.
Stock is 5, u can run safely on 7 with a cooler. Get a retune and new injectors and u can run 12.
Despite what some people would lead u to believe, running 7 psi on the stock greddy map is fine, weqs did it, i did, luke did it
so ... as what u said , a kit + tuning , what did that cost you ?
yuentinlon
11-06-2008, 10:33 PM
i only can find 2 on ebay ... one also is for EK rather than EG
and the shipping is about 1000 au$ @@ ?!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Civic-EX-96-00-Greddy-Bolt-On-Turbo-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ010QQitem Z200110054999QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Civic-EX-92-95-Greddy-Bolt-On-Turbo-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ009QQitem Z190063495944QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
dudeling7
11-06-2008, 11:06 PM
im gettin mine from this seller
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Greddy-TD04-Turbo-Kit-Honda-Civic-Ex-92-95-Emanage-NR_W0QQitemZ190227850565QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item19 0227850565&
he said he canship the kit for $230do you have eg or ek?
dont touch them dude one way or another they fall apart... and its nothing but a headace from what ive read to fit them and get them working consitantly
they are fine just so long as u no what ur doing. most people would install these kits are people who have never worked on turbos before.
just take ur time and do the proper reseach.
tekung89
12-06-2008, 11:54 AM
boost it for the experience and fun =]
grumpy rooster
12-06-2008, 11:55 AM
Don't forget to add import duty and GST on the landed total cost.
Centurius
12-06-2008, 12:25 PM
what about the kit kraiye has for sale?
used parts, but they're not gonna fail like a ebay turbo, and he's got an e-manage there FS aswell....
in the parts section of the marketplace i think :S
SeverAMV
12-06-2008, 03:57 PM
if you're gonna do a turbo kit, then upgrade some of the internals. www.fjdistributors.com have a vitara piston motor refresher type kit for $300 that will replace most of your factory parts with new ones, comes with a metal head gasket and 4 vitara negative dome pistons to handle boost pressure, as well as coming with water pump, new bearings, and all necessary gaskets. then its better if you stick to a good turbo kit, but the ebay kit is fine as long as you get the cast iron manifold, and new 'round' intercooler piping (the last ebay kit i saw claimed the piping was round, but it was shaped like a pentagon).
aimre
12-06-2008, 06:46 PM
so ... as what u said , a kit + tuning , what did that cost you ?
+ 1200 for injectors (from america less that $400 for RC 440cc) then tunning.
My mate found a place down south. $800 drive in drive out tune for the emanaga.
My kit with with a cooler and piping was $2400 landed
aimre
12-06-2008, 06:47 PM
if you're gonna do a turbo kit, then upgrade some of the internals. www.fjdistributors.com (http://www.fjdistributors.com) have a vitara piston motor refresher type kit for $300 that will replace most of your factory parts with new ones, comes with a metal head gasket and 4 vitara negative dome pistons to handle boost pressure, as well as coming with water pump, new bearings, and all necessary gaskets. then its better if you stick to a good turbo kit, but the ebay kit is fine as long as you get the cast iron manifold, and new 'round' intercooler piping (the last ebay kit i saw claimed the piping was round, but it was shaped like a pentagon).
no need
Lukezen27
12-06-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm just one in many thats had great success with the GReddy kit.. off eBay
$2080 to my door for a quality kit is amazing IMO
As eimre's said we installed the bare kit that day and I was boosted that night :thumbsup:
97kw ATW after install from about 70kw for a stock D16Y1
I'm now at 128kw ATW after the upgrades and re-tune..
Upgrades
FMIC $150 eBay AU
FMIC $200 eBay USA
RC 440cc Injectors $200 second hand off these forums
2.5" Exhaust $600 second hand bits and pieces
Re-tune $300 to $500
I welded a new actuator on but most people just buy a good quality EBC
Don't forget to add import duty and GST on the landed total cost.
Just do the dodgy and get the guy to include a reciept for under 1000aud. Or get them to market it as a warrenty return. This was one thing i was really scared of, all the vendors or shops i talked to in australia emphasied that i would be hit, and hit hard.
In the end, i payed $90 to clear everything out of customs. I had a friend who was a customs broker at the time, he found me a code that stated 'turbos' are duty free and all i needed was to pay GST. With that code, even though i found out later it shouldnt of exempted me, worked without a flaw. The guy at customs looked at the box, it said 'turbo' and used the greddy instructions to itemise everything and verify they were all part of the 'turbo kit'. He looked up his book and said 'good enough'. Passes it through.... Oh and some people dont even get stopped. Luck of the draw.
That said, even if u get hit at customs, it works out alot cheaper then purchasing locally. Since vendors hear 99% of the time dont keep stock, you will have to wait for them to import it, clear it (as legally as the shop wants to do) and then ship it out too u... My advice is to cut out the middle man :)
Oh and to add, at the time, shipping costs ranged from 430USD to 270USD. the more expensive being with UPS the least being with USPS. USPS will always be your cheapest option, but sometimes OS vendors dont like using them because they sometimes lack quality assurance and are header to deal with incase of disputes.
Lukezen27
16-06-2008, 12:38 PM
I used the warranty return trick :p
Worked out perfect
yuentinlon
18-06-2008, 05:36 PM
I'm just one in many thats had great success with the GReddy kit.. off eBay
$2080 to my door for a quality kit is amazing IMO
As eimre's said we installed the bare kit that day and I was boosted that night :thumbsup:
97kw ATW after install from about 70kw for a stock D16Y1
I'm now at 128kw ATW after the upgrades and re-tune..
Upgrades
FMIC $150 eBay AU
FMIC $200 eBay USA
RC 440cc Injectors $200 second hand off these forums
2.5" Exhaust $600 second hand bits and pieces
Re-tune $300 to $500
I welded a new actuator on but most people just buy a good quality EBC
is your greddy kit come with e-manage ???
so what would u think about the labour cost for install a turbo kit ?
Lukezen27
18-06-2008, 05:55 PM
is your greddy kit come with e-manage ???
so what would u think about the labour cost for install a turbo kit ?
Yeah dose come with e-mange
Its a real kit and gives you everything needed to run on low boost to start with :thumbsup:
I got my installed for very cheap but $1000 should be about right IMO
Lukezen27
18-06-2008, 06:06 PM
Oh and if you can't solder make sure a buy a PnP harness H-3 by GReddy
Will save you a lot of fuk around in the end
dudeling7
18-06-2008, 06:19 PM
luke what was the hardest part of the install you think?
seems like it would be pretty easy to bolt on except for the tapping of the oil pan (obviously need to take it off, drill holes and reassemble), connecting dp to exhaust (Cheap at exhaust shop), anything else that is a major hassle.
to someone who can do a fair bit of work on their car themselves it shouldnt be too hard? just wondering as ill prob be doing it myself with some mates.
Lukezen27
18-06-2008, 06:28 PM
luke what was the hardest part of the install you think?
seems like it would be pretty easy to bolt on except for the tapping of the oil pan (obviously need to take it off, drill holes and reassemble), connecting dp to exhaust (Cheap at exhaust shop), anything else that is a major hassle.
to someone who can do a fair bit of work on their car themselves it shouldnt be too hard? just wondering as ill prob be doing it myself with some mates.
sum is the hardest and you need to re-drill the the GReddy log manifold holes a bit as the D16Z6 witch this kits made for has a slightly different off-set
yuentinlon
18-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Oh and if you can't solder make sure a buy a PnP harness H-3 by GReddy
Will save you a lot of fuk around in the end
whats that PnP harness H-3 for ???
whats are they look like @@?
Fo55il
19-06-2008, 03:08 AM
h3 harness or rememebr to get the ignition cable for the emanage blue.. .
If u plan on boosting it higher, the ignition cable is a must.
get the greddy kit with the cooler and piping included, turn out to be round about the same price as custom piping n cooler.
guess im different to look cuase hardest thing i found was wiring, which i got a mate to help me with. with the sump just took it off and welded a socket into the sump. oil lines are also abit annoying, but other then that... not really to much to worry about, its very simple if u are any bit mechanical i would just do it urself, be a good learning curve and at least that way u no what has been done to the car... and u appreciate it more
Fo55il
19-06-2008, 06:27 PM
or while its gettin done be around pik up things.
paps02
19-06-2008, 09:18 PM
tell me more about this warrenty return get through customs trick?
im nearly saved up for the kit........
Lukezen27
19-06-2008, 09:22 PM
tell me more about this warrenty return get through customs trick?
im nearly saved up for the kit........
Ask the seller to put Warranty Return on the box so you don't have to pay tax..
Doesn't work all the time though
luke what was the hardest part of the install you think?
seems like it would be pretty easy to bolt on except for the tapping of the oil pan (obviously need to take it off, drill holes and reassemble), connecting dp to exhaust (Cheap at exhaust shop), anything else that is a major hassle.
to someone who can do a fair bit of work on their car themselves it shouldnt be too hard? just wondering as ill prob be doing it myself with some mates.
Before i installed my greddy kit, i had previously only done an oil change on my car. Oh and made a custom CIA with PVC piping.
But i did research, i researched the install for about 6months. I purchased every tool and every fluid i needed beforehand. Cost around $500 for repco gear but i had zero tools/stuff beforehand.
dudeling7
20-06-2008, 08:29 PM
too easy, i have done almost everything on my car apart from timing belt because im cbf lol, shouldn't bee too bad at all i think, got most tools so just need to be prepared with fluids, plugs etc...cheers
Lukezen27
20-06-2008, 08:32 PM
h3 harness or rememebr to get the ignition cable for the emanage blue.. .
If u plan on boosting it higher, the ignition cable is a must.
get the greddy kit with the cooler and piping included, turn out to be round about the same price as custom piping n cooler.
That's correct
The e-manage comes per-tuned with a safe base line map for 5psi but its tuned using just the AFR and thus you won't have the tuning control needed to run higher boost safely plus no VTec crossover point control.
The H-3 ignition harness gives you complete control by allowing to tune via the maps instead of just AFR plus VTec crossover.
The H-3 is PnP no soldering needs and enables all options available with e-manage blue..
As Weq said, research is the key..
I did about two years research before even choosing what kit to buy..
I have to disagree with Fo55il about get'n the kit with the FMIC and piping.
It was about $800 bucks extra when I got my kit so I didn't bother and got my stuff off eBay well the piping anyway, worked out to $340 delivered.
But if the kits cheap with the Intercooler upgrade go for it lol
Cheers
LukeZen
Fo55il
20-06-2008, 10:20 PM
i just think that a "whole" setup is more convenient but custom job is cool too. Find a good bargain. But the kit comes wid piping to get u going.
dudeling7
21-06-2008, 04:30 PM
yeh the kit only comes with piping straight from the turbo to ur IM, so on stock boost its fine, once you turn up the boost you should def get a cooler.
yuentinlon
22-06-2008, 01:35 PM
That's correct
The e-manage comes per-tuned with a safe base line map for 5psi but its tuned using just the AFR and thus you won't have the tuning control needed to run higher boost safely plus no VTec crossover point control.
The H-3 ignition harness gives you complete control by allowing to tune via the maps instead of just AFR plus VTec crossover.
The H-3 is PnP no soldering needs and enables all options available with e-manage blue..
As Weq said, research is the key..
I did about two years research before even choosing what kit to buy..
I have to disagree with Fo55il about get'n the kit with the FMIC and piping.
It was about $800 bucks extra when I got my kit so I didn't bother and got my stuff off eBay well the piping anyway, worked out to $340 delivered.
But if the kits cheap with the Intercooler upgrade go for it lol
Cheers
LukeZen
i always dont know how to thanks you guys coz you both gave me a lot of useful inf. that i needed :angel: haha ~
and i will do some more research first and hopefully i can do the turbo-ing in the end of this year ^^
Oh and save your money on that PNP emanage harness. We wired mine up pretty much in a few hours. its easy, just take ur time and use a multi to check voltages.
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