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theuan101
11-06-2008, 01:50 PM
Just a noob question, would the civic type r pistons fit in my integra vtir?? Just asking cause I want to get the toda vtec killer cams, and I though i'll just upgrade the pistons too?? Any ideas??
Juan
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Yes you can use them.
Are you planning on using the vtec killers for daily driving?
I hope not..
theuan101
11-06-2008, 06:18 PM
Yes you can use them.
Are you planning on using the vtec killers for daily driving?
I hope not..
I am thinking in doing it... Is it a no go?? I like the sound of them!! That will be the main reason I really want it!! lol
Cheers
Juan
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Well its really better for track.
It kind of defeats the idea of vtec by having the high and low cam lobes.
Not so great for a small capacity engine.Think of big v8's with lumpy idle.
You are running the big lobe constantly which would suck for a daily.
Also better suited with quad throttles.
T-onedc2
11-06-2008, 06:31 PM
Vtec killer cams are called that because they basically kill the vtec function, not killer as in OMG fully sick killa mate!
Only use them if you spend all your time driving above 4400-5800 rpm, on the street it will be a pig to drive.
theuan101
11-06-2008, 07:12 PM
Vtec killer cams are called that because they basically kill the vtec function, not killer as in OMG fully sick killa mate!
Only use them if you spend all your time driving above 4400-5800 rpm, on the street it will be a pig to drive.
What sorta cams should I be looking at? Or isn't it worth it the time and money?? Probably just do a turbo...??
T-onedc2
11-06-2008, 07:27 PM
If you wanna improve bottom end and can put up with losing some response due to lag then go turbo, or otherwise supercharging. Forged pistons would be a good idea in this case.
aimre
11-06-2008, 08:52 PM
best bang for buck... turbo. With less money youll beat like EVERY na car here
theuan101
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
Thanks for the info!! Clarified much for me!!
IZY-10
11-06-2008, 09:44 PM
just go for toda spec b cams and quad throttle bodies
destrukshn
11-06-2008, 09:49 PM
just go for toda spec b cams and quad throttle bodies
can get a decent turbo kit for that price.
lol
IZY-10
11-06-2008, 09:55 PM
can get a decent turbo kit for that price.
lol
yeah you could it depends what he is after though. I cant believe he wanted to run vtec killers as a daily lol that would be so funny:)
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Maybe he didn't realise what they were exactly.
We all gotta learn somehow...
theuan101
11-06-2008, 10:07 PM
Maybe he didn't realise what they were exactly.
We all gotta learn somehow...
What would be the problem with running vtec killer cams as a every day driver?? I just want to give my car more grunt... hehehe!! I love the vtec, and thought the vtec killers would be awesome! I know that getting power from a N/A is really expensive. I guess might stick to the basics I/H/E, ECU. There are so many other topics out there on performance!! Its so hard making a choice!!
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 10:15 PM
You wont have vtec if you install killers man.
Do you know how vtec works?in regards to the cam lobes?
Learn how vtec works and why,then you will understand the difference with vtec killers.They dont run the hi and low cam lobes,in other words disabling vtec.
You basically end up with a twin cam honda 4 cylinder with big racing camshafts and no vtec.
I'm too lazy to teach you the theories on big cams etc.lol
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 10:21 PM
Heres a link I found for you regarding the vtec killers but you will need to understand vtec cams to get what they are talking about :)
http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/product/onemake_e/b16/b16-05.html
theuan101
11-06-2008, 10:22 PM
You wont have vtec if you install killers man.
Do you know how vtec works?in regards to the cam lobes?
Learn how vtec works and why,then you will understand the difference with vtec killers.They dont run the hi and low cam lobes,in other words disabling vtec.
You basically end up with a twin cam honda 4 cylinder with big racing camshafts and no vtec.
I'm too lazy to teach you the theories on big cams etc.lol
Hey, I understand how vtec works. How it engages the hi cam lobes at a higher RPM, why would vtec killers be bad for every day driving? I guess the question is would they be worth it in the end of the day, money to performance? Or would it be better getting a turbo??
Cheers!!
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 10:25 PM
Because using big cams like the vtec killers make a small 1.8litre 4 cylinder gutless under say 5-6000 rpm.
They are designed for racing where the revs stay high not stop start in traffic etc.
Bludger
11-06-2008, 10:27 PM
because daily driving, you would most likely be in a low rpm range
and running big cam lobes in low rpm range would really suck, big time.
Why do we even bother
:s
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 10:28 PM
Not all of us are qualified "e-machanics" lol
Bludger
11-06-2008, 10:33 PM
Not all of us are qualified "e-machanics" lolwhats that suppose to mean?
theuan101
11-06-2008, 10:42 PM
Not all of us are qualified "e-machanics" lol
hehehe!! Yeah, I just need someone to reason with me. I think I am going to have to do a lot more research on what I can do an what would be worth while! The best bang for buck! Thanks again for the help!!
On the topic, I am buying a Fujitsubo RM01a for my integra, what headers will be good? And what sorta cat should I be looking at? Then of course the tune as well!
Bludger
11-06-2008, 10:43 PM
hehehe!! Yeah, I just need someone to reason with me. I think I am going to have to do a lot more research on what I can do an what would be worth while! The best bang for buck! Thanks again for the help!!
On the topic, I am buying a Fujitsubo RM01a for my integra, what headers will be good? And what sorta cat should I be looking at? Then of course the tune as well!well, if you decide to go the turbo route, that exhaust will become redundant.
theuan101
11-06-2008, 10:47 PM
well, if you decide to go the turbo route, that exhaust will become redundant.
Yeah true. I'll do some more research! Would the civic type r pistons be of any help with a turbo?? or just stock?
EKVTIR-T
11-06-2008, 10:48 PM
hehehe!! Yeah, I just need someone to reason with me. I think I am going to have to do a lot more research on what I can do an what would be worth while! The best bang for buck! Thanks again for the help!!
On the topic, I am buying a Fujitsubo RM01a for my integra, what headers will be good? And what sorta cat should I be looking at? Then of course the tune as well!
You really should search the forum man.These topic been covered alot.
But headers comes down to 4-1 or 4-2-1.They are the most common.
4-1 are said to give better high rpm power where as 4-2-1 will give a broad increase through the revs.
Ecu is a whole story in itself.For basic intake,header,catback a vafc or emanage are ok to dial in the fuel settings to suit the mods.
theuan101
11-06-2008, 10:53 PM
You really should search the forum man.These topic been covered alot.
But headers comes down to 4-1 or 4-2-1.They are the most common.
4-1 are said to give better high rpm power where as 4-2-1 will give a broad increase through the revs.
Ecu is a whole story in itself.For basic intake,header,catback a vafc or emanage are ok to dial in the fuel settings to suit the mods.
Cheers! thanks again for the help!!
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