Euro Service Interval

[blueeuro]

I had my 20k service done yesterday. The book says the next is due at 30k, but the sticker the dealer puts on the window says 25k.

This 25k one is probably just an oil change but last time I ignored it and went by what the book said.

What do ya reckon, why do Honda go out of their way to print a book that states 30k if they don't mean 30k (I'll be shocked if its the dealer just trying to make a quid with un-necessary oil changes) ? :confused:

[euro77]

ask the dealer :D
my 20k service won't due until Jan '05, so I can't tell you what the next service interval is.

[Pum[Z]]

With my accord euro my service intervals is every 5000 km. The 5000 km they just change the oil only (i don't think they change the oil filter). To me its a waste of money servicing every 5000 km.

I just did my 10,000 km and i brought in Mobil 1 oil with me so that i come back for its 20,000 km service and not 15,000 km. If u check ur Service history in HondaOne the 5000 km service don't even show up (I know because my 5000km service didn't show).

My friend that works at honda as a mechanic even says service every 10,000km because it will do it. The honda service department wants just to make extra money thats all. (To be on the save side might as well put in good oil like Mobil 1 or Shell Helix Ultra so that u have piece of mind that the oil will last the distance).

[ECU-MAN]

Honda oil filters are awsome there good for over 10000kms, Doesnt take me long to clock up 10000kms in my Euro so I service it every 10000kms. although my delSol doesnt get driven often so it getts it done every 5 000kms. morall of the story you should get your car serviced every 5000kms if you dont clock up alot of kms, every day drivers clocking up 10 000kms within 3 months, service your car every 10k.

[EuroAccord13]

For one, according to the log books, the filter is changed every 20000km.. something I don't believe in, I do it every 10000Km... soon to be 5000kms when the car really takes the RPMs :P

For the other, my personal opinion to Pum[Z], I don't think you need to use Mobil 1 for your car..

[Pum[Z]]

Peace of Mind for me to use Mobil 1 Moite...

[EuroAccord13]

']Peace of Mind for me to use Mobil 1 Moite...


YES SIR ! Moit :D Heeheeheehee

CHEERS

[Type R Positive]

I use home brand canola oil.

Smells like ya mum's cookin!

[coladuna]

Pfft. 5000km service interval? yeah right.
There's no way I'm going to get my car serviced every 5000km.
If that was the official service interval for Accord Euro, I wouldn't even have bought one.
Considering that European cars typically have service interval of 10,000km+, it'd be a joke and a big hassle taking the car to be serviced every 5000km, which isn't very long.

[Type R Positive]

It depends on a number of things weather or not you should change your oil at different intervals, did you read your manual???

I live in a dusty environment (iron ore) which can't be good for the engine. It doesn't matter what the book says, I'll be changing the oil every 5,000km and oil filter every 10,000km. It costs stuff all, plus extra piece of mind. I find the honda oil very good. I use it in my pulsar as well :) It is formulated by Honda Motor Company, but blended and packed by Caltex Australia.

A 5000km service interval will definately help when you sell your car.

[ECU-MAN]

Pfft. 5000km service interval? yeah right.
There's no way I'm going to get my car serviced every 5000km.
If that was the official service interval for Accord Euro, I wouldn't even have bought one.
Considering that European cars typically have service interval of 10,000km+, it'd be a joke and a big hassle taking the car to be serviced every 5000km, which isn't very long.

Not having a go at you coladuna , but many 86-90 Ledgend owners had your same attitude, and neglected to service ther cars at the correct interval recommended by the dealer and there where alot of warrant claims made on the poor 2.7 and 2.5 V6. Engine Sludge is your worst nightmare. The Engines that survived and neglected later on develope lifter noise. Honda engines have fine clearences and fine oil gallaries. wasnt just ledgend that had this problem, some accords and civics look like a mud slide under the rocca cover. not nice.
It really comes down to the driving conditions of your car. I wouldnt go past 10000KMs with every day all day driving. 5000KMs when I only drive to and from work which can take 6 months to build up. Some say change the oil evry 3 to 4 months regardsless of the Kms

[coladuna]

if not getting a service every 5000km puts the Euro under the risk of engine damage etc..., it's just not good enough.
I think most people like me will find it annoying to have to take the car in for a service every 5000 when you are working full-time.
I didn't mind it with my old Prelude, but I'm inclined to think that this being a 2004 build car, it should have better technology and should be able to last longer without a service every 5000km.
After all, doesn't the manual say that service interval is 10,000km?
I still don't have my car yet so I don't know.

Just a story about my damn dealer though.
We've specifically agreed to have the car delivered by 22nd of September and I added it as a term of contract for piece of mind. I rang them up on Monday to make sure everything is on track and they suddenly starts saying that it's scheduled for delivery on the 27th, which pissed me right off. I protested that it was written on the contract that they'll guarantee to deliver by 22nd and she told me that she'll talk to the manager and see what they can do. She rang back and now says that they "pulled some strings" at Honda Australia and the earliest they can do is 23rd. What a joke.
What happened to the 27th? Stupid dealers. They are always the same. Nevertheless, I still have to wait for one more day which really sucks.

[euro77]

sorry to hear about the delay.

Be careful though, rushing the car might prove no good as the dealer will be rushing to get the car ready, they might miss some detailing.

[Euro_Boy]

what dealer if u dont mind me asking?

[wynode]

what dealer if u dont mind me asking?
PM thanks

[coladuna]

sorry to hear about the delay.

Be careful though, rushing the car might prove no good as the dealer will be rushing to get the car ready, they might miss some detailing.

What do they do to the car when they say "detailing"?
Is it just basically a wash and a wax or something like that?
If it's that, I wouldn't really care even if they don't wash at all.
I'd rather get it early than wait more just to have a clean car. hehe
Besides, I'm going to give it a full detailing myself when I get it anyway.

[yfin]

Your car comes from the factory with an odd layer of protective rubber like film. I have never seen anything like it - but was quite surprised how bad the paint looked pre-detail. No idea what it is. Someone here will know.

You will want your dealer to get the film off - it is not simply a wash and wax.

The detailers also do a final detailed inspection of the car. It is worth doing...

[ECU-MAN]

My Euro came 1 month overdue, I guess you cant rush the boat, I was spewing.

how long will it take you to travel 5000 KMs, Tecnology allows your engine to be more efficent blah blah blah but its the tecnology in the oil that counts.
Like I said above I change my oil every 10 000kms coz im driving the car every day and during the day, I average 35 000km - 40 000km per year thats 1 service every quarter. say if I halfed my milaged to 20 000km pa, I wouldnt think twice about still servicing my car every quater. wich add to 5000km. Im no chemical wizz but iv been told oil breakes down over time, not only over mileage.
you will notice the service schedual says 10000km OR 6 months. if after 6 months you havnt done 10000km you should get your car serviced. also its not all about the oil change. its the opertunity for a mechanic to have a look at your tyres, suspention, cooling system, and so on.

Then there is Extream conditions.
at the end of the day its your car and your choice. Im not trying to convince you to service your car every 5k Just trying to give you a guide as to why some people service there cars every 5k.

[coladuna]

you will notice the service schedual says 10000km OR 6 months. if after 6 months you havnt done 10000km you should get your car serviced.

Uh... ofcourse you should get it serviced if the manual says 10000km or 6 months regardless of whether you did 10000km in 6 months or not. I was just saying that following the instruction in the manual should be more than sufficient.

[coladuna]

Your car comes from the factory with an odd layer of protective rubber like film. I have never seen anything like it - but was quite surprised how bad the paint looked pre-detail. No idea what it is. Someone here will know.

You will want your dealer to get the film off - it is not simply a wash and wax.

The detailers also do a final detailed inspection of the car. It is worth doing...

I saw that film thing as well. I don't think it's anything special. Just some kind of vinyl or something that you can peel off. I guess it's similar to how new tv remote controls have vinyl that you peel off.

[Catcha]

I had my 20k service done yesterday. The book says the next is due at 30k, but the sticker the dealer puts on the window says 25k.

This 25k one is probably just an oil change but last time I ignored it and went by what the book said.

What do ya reckon, why do Honda go out of their way to print a book that states 30k if they don't mean 30k (I'll be shocked if its the dealer just trying to make a quid with un-necessary oil changes) ? :confused:

Why don't you just service your car yourself at 25k..........shouldn't be too hard...I own a WRX and looking at getting a Euro or a Jazz in the near future and doing it yourself is the best way to know it's getting done. another person I know has a brand new WRX next service was 12500km after the first 1000, you think he waited for the 12500km service? course not he changed it himself at 5000km. I know other people that do there cars at every 5000km to make sure in the long run there car will be running well and won't develop probems....they also own a honda accord one before the current ones now. one pays a dealer to do it and one does it himself.

Bottom line is any car you want it to be running in tip top shape do it every 5000km and shouldn't have a problem.

just my opinion :wave:

[Type R Positive]

Im no chemical wizz but iv been told oil breakes down over time, not only over mileage.


Naive little boy!

[Catcha]

if not getting a service every 5000km puts the Euro under the risk of engine damage etc..., it's just not good enough.
I think most people like me will find it annoying to have to take the car in for a service every 5000 when you are working full-time.
I didn't mind it with my old Prelude, but I'm inclined to think that this being a 2004 build car, it should have better technology and should be able to last longer without a service every 5000km.
After all, doesn't the manual say that service interval is 10,000km?
I still don't have my car yet so I don't know.

Just a story about my damn dealer though.
We've specifically agreed to have the car delivered by 22nd of September and I added it as a term of contract for piece of mind. I rang them up on Monday to make sure everything is on track and they suddenly starts saying that it's scheduled for delivery on the 27th, which pissed me right off. I protested that it was written on the contract that they'll guarantee to deliver by 22nd and she told me that she'll talk to the manager and see what they can do. She rang back and now says that they "pulled some strings" at Honda Australia and the earliest they can do is 23rd. What a joke.
What happened to the 27th? Stupid dealers. They are always the same. Nevertheless, I still have to wait for one more day which really sucks.

I guess your the only person that works full-time?
Servicing your car at 5000km is just extra insurance, I have been told by my dealer that 5000km service is advised but not compulsory, because of our hot conditions, so it depends how much you value your car.........I use to own a WRX sold it for a jazz now .......I use to service it every 5000km sure you can do it at 10000km but at what cost,
It's like rotating your tyres should do it every 10,000km why not 20,000km to ensure even wear on all 4's

[Breeze]

Naive little boy!

He is correct. Time and mileage are contributers. Low kms over long time is considered the worst as this implies lots of stop start driving. At start up there is a good amount of condensation and nasties that work their way into the oil. One main by-product of combustion is also sulphur.

Short stop start trips mean your car never gets up to full operating temp where a lot of nasties are burnt off and the moisture is evaporated. Some cars are seen to gain oil volume and this is why. Now when you mix sulphur and condensation you get sulphuric acid, great for the bearings etc. This is especially apparent in diesels.

Cars that travel higher kms in shorter periods can go longer before the oil becomes sufficiently degraded as the higher kms imply longer trips, and higher likelihood the nasties are burnt off.

[aaronng]

Rrrreeeeesssuuuuurrreeeeeccccteeeeed! *RAWR*

[euro1978]

He is correct. Time and mileage are contributers. Low kms over long time is considered the worst as this implies lots of stop start driving. At start up there is a good amount of condensation and nasties that work their way into the oil. One main by-product of combustion is also sulphur.

Short stop start trips mean your car never gets up to full operating temp where a lot of nasties are burnt off and the moisture is evaporated. Some cars are seen to gain oil volume and this is why. Now when you mix sulphur and condensation you get sulphuric acid, great for the bearings etc. This is especially apparent in diesels.

Cars that travel higher kms in shorter periods can go longer before the oil becomes sufficiently degraded as the higher kms imply longer trips, and higher likelihood the nasties are burnt off.

Thanks for that reply 11 months later !!!!

[Breeze]

Whoops wrong year!