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silvia200sx
18-09-2004, 01:04 PM
which is faster???

around the track and the straight line because i hardly c people drive em hard as most i c r owned by older mid aged people!! then again they r expensive.....if any stats pls explain tk

|N|
18-09-2004, 01:23 PM
i reckon dc2r might be slightly faster on track ... due to all its settins...but htats just me

vtml
18-09-2004, 01:27 PM
There are lots of S2000's on the track doing awesome times, you don't see them because you never go to the track.

Chi
18-09-2004, 01:33 PM
track uphill s2k, track down hill dc2r

In a straight s2k

Into a ditch, EG civic

gelo
18-09-2004, 02:21 PM
Into a ditch, EG civic

HAHAHA

i would say stock for stock a dc2r can rival or beat the s2k
straight line definately s2k

vtml
18-09-2004, 02:29 PM
What are you guys basing your judgement on?

madgrk
18-09-2004, 04:32 PM
What they have read LOL, and what their cousin Maria's boyfriend Costa told em that he got from his aunty Soula

:/

vtml
18-09-2004, 11:26 PM
haha nice one madgrk.

Da1nONLY
19-09-2004, 01:59 AM
i would say it'll be pretty even on the straight!..
the s2k is a bitch to launch.... once you bog the s2k....the dc2r will win.

track - dc2r =)

[[d a n n y]]
19-09-2004, 02:07 AM
Hm...Track it seems S2k?
i have never seen them in person...
but on the BMI Vids the ITR have No chance against the S2k.
so i guess it'll b much faster.
but then again i could b wrong

pornstar
19-09-2004, 12:18 PM
s2ks are ownage on the track over the ITR... RWD 2 litres....

A'PEXi
19-09-2004, 03:06 PM
what are the weight of both cars? seems that the s2k would be lighter without a roof? (just guessing here correct me if im wrong) as weight plays a major role on the track... power is also a factor when considering straight roads, without a doubt the s2k will pull along the straight, have a higher top speed, and more torque compared to a 1.8L

SIKCVC
19-09-2004, 08:23 PM
The S2K would probably rape the DC2 on all points, but would do a lot better for itself if it had the support that a roof offers... which is the reason why Soft top cars dont make as successful track cars. Get body flex.

crx_16x
20-09-2004, 01:09 AM
Your statement is correct for poorly designed soft tops.
Of which the s2k is not.
This is an unfounded statement however i would hazard a guess that the s2k is just as rigid as an integra.

IRI
20-09-2004, 08:59 AM
dc2r cannot touch an s2k, my uncle has an S2k and when we occassionally muck around on w/ends, I may as well be driving a hyundai excel....
But on twisties i seem to catch up and give him a run for his money, but that may be because I'm young and foolish and am prepared to take more of a risk and brake later when entering corners.

silvia200sx
21-09-2004, 04:01 PM
well what i thought is that the s2k is quicker in a straight line as it has 2.0 engine and more power, but the type r is made for the track so around the track it will be very close, the type r will be handling like rails on corners, convertables are dangerous at fast speeds!

just wondering as the magazines have different lap times and straight line stats, which i would believe that with the same driver the cars would be very close, major difference is fwd v rwd

redliner
23-09-2004, 02:12 PM
well what i thought is that the s2k is quicker in a straight line as it has 2.0 engine and more power, but the type r is made for the track so around the track it will be very close, the type r will be handling like rails on corners, convertables are dangerous at fast speeds!


Yeah you wouldnt want to flip the car at high speed... not a pretty look. :thumbdwn:

Im pretty sure they prob mod the s2k to suit the track, if they going to track it... since s2k is rear wheel does it mean that its more slippery on the corners? or you can drift it :cool:

CJL
23-09-2004, 07:32 PM
hmmm the s2k would rape the dc2r for all its worth...

Da1nONLY
23-09-2004, 09:33 PM
hmmmz..
rape.... ok =P...

A'PEXi
23-09-2004, 09:58 PM
i think there are track times for certain tracks in melb for s2k's and dc2r's, either on clubrsx or s2ki, if someone is on those forums, might want to do a search, gather some track times and do an average to see what these cars run :D

vtml
24-09-2004, 01:15 AM
The Australian track times are on S2ki.com.

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=165438

bizee_1
24-09-2004, 02:18 AM
i think the S2k would win on track & in a straight line. Given the driver knows how to drive both cars to it's potential & is consistent.

Then again, some circuits are suited to FF cars more than FR cars.

SiR JDM
24-09-2004, 02:26 AM
My friend has a Import Type V s2k with VGS .. (i think the only, or one of the only in Aus). His previous car was an ADM dc2r... and he constantly tells me how slow the s2k is in a straight line and the ITR was alot faster?

DaViSoN
24-09-2004, 02:37 AM
Then again Sir JDM, he also said s2k handles ALOT better than dc2.
He said the vtec on the s2k much stronger... so im assuming the s2k would be much better on track than dc2. But then again.. depends on driver.

carbine
24-09-2004, 11:42 AM
dc2r i think has more potential to become a tack monster then the s2000. Although its pretty hard to match an FF with an FR. FF I believe takes alot more skill to take to the limit.

pornstar
24-09-2004, 12:04 PM
ur joking right?

K3NstyL
24-09-2004, 12:29 PM
FR takes a lot more skill to master...

dc2r
24-09-2004, 06:09 PM
Driver dependant... If you look at the time in wakefield for a stock s2k, he got 1:14. I know a few people with dc2r who have done between 1:12-1:15 for a stock dc2r.

If you get the same driver, I would think the s2k will beat the dc2r, but they are very very close. s2k will not "rape" the dc2r :)

monstaR
24-09-2004, 06:19 PM
hey would love to give an s2k a run if i see one next time on the road..... to see if my R gets "raped" by it........... :D

carbine
24-09-2004, 08:54 PM
ur joking right?
No, to get drive out of a corner with a fwd is alot harder then a rwd drive. Oversteer is alot easier to cope with then understeer if you know what you are doing. S2k has good balance because of its FR layout, although twitchy its alot easier to drive at the limit given your not an idiot.

RAYTDR
24-09-2004, 10:35 PM
When i've been to the track there was not much difference in the two. It all depends on the driver. Just because you might have a fast track car doesn't mean U will go fast around the track or you will rape him or he will beat u. Too many variables.:cool:

vtml
24-09-2004, 11:22 PM
No, to get drive out of a corner with a fwd is alot harder then a rwd drive. Oversteer is alot easier to cope with then understeer if you know what you are doing. S2k has good balance because of its FR layout, although twitchy its alot easier to drive at the limit given your not an idiot.

Did you base your own track experience on that?

vtml
24-09-2004, 11:23 PM
It also looks like no one actually looked at the link that I posted from s2ki.com, and most of you guys just continue on the discussion without real facts/results.

carbine
25-09-2004, 01:18 AM
Did you base your own track experience on that?
I didn't base my own track experience on that.

but i did base my thoughts on my own track experience.

pornstar
25-09-2004, 01:41 AM
s2k has proven time and time again to maul the R...

੮®ப
27-09-2004, 12:48 AM
I personally own a Type-R... One oF my Mates Has A S2K ... I Launched His Car and my car From The top of my street and the S2K hit 150K's on the dial My Type-R could Only Hit 125K's So S2K Is The winner on a straight but the package that the type-r offers i rekon stock type R and S2k on the track will be a pretty even match...same driver that is... Word! :)

PhatSol
27-09-2004, 06:21 PM
More cubes, 50/50 weight distribution, RWD - I don't see where the advantage is for the R?

dc2r
04-10-2004, 01:55 PM
I was reading through an old magazine which had the Type-R and the S2000 do time attacks at Phillip Island, along with a lot of other different cars. Just to let you know, the Type-R had a cornering speed of 167km/h while the S2000 had a cornering speed of 155km/h. I don't know their actual lap times but those cornering speeds might say something? And in the end, the Type-R had the second highest cornering speed behind a Porsche Boxter S which had 168km/h...

type one
04-10-2004, 04:29 PM
yup read that as well.. old motor pcoty... that's why it is the best fwd handler in the world :)

FR33K
04-10-2004, 09:18 PM
what are the weight of both cars? seems that the s2k would be lighter without a roof? (just guessing here correct me if im wrong) as weight plays a major role on the track...

mmmm convertibles dont necessarily mean that they are lighter coz theres usually more weight on the car for reinforcements to make up for not having the roof

bizee_1
05-10-2004, 01:12 AM
I was reading through an old magazine which had the Type-R and the S2000 do time attacks at Phillip Island, along with a lot of other different cars. Just to let you know, the Type-R had a cornering speed of 167km/h while the S2000 had a cornering speed of 155km/h. I don't know their actual lap times but those cornering speeds might say something? And in the end, the Type-R had the second highest cornering speed behind a Porsche Boxter S which had 168km/h...
i read that too. The Honda Civic EM1 VtiR had a cornering speed of 160km/h.....(Porsche 911 Carrera did 166km/h) They didn't give lap times, as it rained, and throughout the day the track was, quote "...a mix of dry, greasy, slippery".

i know we are comparing a DC2R, let alone AUDM. But thought this "might" be relative.
There is a Tsukuba battle where an S2K & a DC5R are racing amongst other cars....
Time Attack wise, the S2K did 1:08.83 to the DC5R's 1:09.67 secs.
Best Lap wise, the S2K did 1:09.03 to the DC5R's 1:09.79 secs.