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EUR003act
20-06-2008, 08:02 PM
INDEX:

Custom black headlights (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1865066&postcount=141)

Picture of all parts awaiting installation (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1873709&postcount=192)

K20Z1 cylinder head pictures (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1873768&postcount=196)

K20Z1 cylinder head pictures (hi-res) (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1885525&postcount=265)

J32A3 vs. K24A3 TB comparison pics (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1892977&postcount=279)

Baseline Dyno Sheet and A/F logs (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1899890&postcount=325)

Build Pics - Day1, Cyl Head removed, Piston/Block cleaned (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1904493&postcount=346)

Build Pics - Day2, Timing chain, K20 head installed (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1906033&postcount=351)

How to modify the RBC to fit K24 (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1930329&postcount=410)

RSP Manifold polishing (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92924&page=47)

RBB vs. RBC vs. RSP (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2101809&postcount=565)

CL9 GReddy Emanage Ultimate jumper settings (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2114195&postcount=571)

Stage 2 parts awaiting install (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92924&page=54) :D

Latest dyno - Most powerfull N/A FWD @ JDM'FEST 2009 (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2450929&postcount=677)

Massive Update! 8,420rpm (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?92924-***K24Z1-project-teaser***&p=2882806&viewfull=1#post2882806)

bennjamin
20-06-2008, 08:09 PM
1/4.

that is all.

felixd
20-06-2008, 10:02 PM
type s from k20z :) to ur euro thats AWSOME will it rev higher if use this block ?

EUR003act
20-06-2008, 10:05 PM
type s from k20z :) to ur euro thats AWSOME will it rev higher if use this block ?

from what the guys in the US are doing, they seem to make max power around 6800-7100rpm... so keeping my 7400 rev limit should still be fine :D

fatfish
21-06-2008, 05:51 PM
looking forword til you finished the project. interesting what type of cam you using and where did you get your head from. i want to do this for a long time, just can't make up my mind.:thumbsup: nice job

EUR003act
22-06-2008, 05:14 PM
im going to trial a set of ITR cams and see how they go...

i got the head from a guy in the US on K20A.org

heres some updated pics, i finished porting and polishing the throttle body, its now 68mm at the pipe inlet, 64.5mm at the narrowest, and 66mm at the rear...

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF1979Medium.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF1981Medium.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF1986Medium.jpg

aaronng
22-06-2008, 08:04 PM
How much is it to bore the throttle body?

Chris_F
22-06-2008, 08:11 PM
awesome! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread

EUR003act
22-06-2008, 08:35 PM
How much is it to bore the throttle body?

i purchased a throttle body off a J32A3 (2004 Acura TL)... theyre already DBW and they are direct bolt on (apart from having to weld up the idle bypass on the RBC)... stock they are 64mm (compared to K24A3s 60mm) which is an increase of about 12ccm :D

i bored mine out a lil more (especially on the intake side) and polished it myself... the stock surface was fairly rough, but as you can see now, its very smooth...

aaronng
22-06-2008, 08:44 PM
Is the throttle actuator the same or compatible with the one used on the K24A3? I am hoping that it runs off the same voltage as the Euro's throttle actuator.

EUR003act
22-06-2008, 09:17 PM
Is the throttle actuator the same or compatible with the one used on the K24A3? I am hoping that it runs off the same voltage as the Euro's throttle actuator.

ive done a few electrical tests and it seems to be the exact same mechanism... worst comes to worse, i can actually swap the drive motor and hall effect sensors out of my 60mm TB into the J32s...

ill confirm my results in a few weeks when i get a chance to swap them over...

fatfish
22-06-2008, 09:57 PM
i purchased a throttle body off a J32A3 (2004 Acura TL)... theyre already DBW and they are direct bolt on (apart from having to weld up the idle bypass on the RBC)... stock they are 64mm (compared to K24A3s 60mm) which is an increase of about 12ccm :D

i bored mine out a lil more (especially on the intake side) and polished it myself... the stock surface was fairly rough, but as you can see now, its very smooth...

how much did you get the tb bore? how was the job, will they able to bore it to 70mm?

thank you

EUR003act
23-06-2008, 10:52 PM
how much did you get the tb bore? how was the job, will they able to bore it to 70mm?

thank you

i did the bore myself... so didnt cost me anything but time :D

68mm was pushing it around the top... which is why i only went to 66mm on the other side... going to 70mm probably wouldnt make any differnt with the 64mm butterfly because u cant bore that bit out anymore...

and the job is perfect (you can see you reflection in it!)

Suntzu
24-06-2008, 02:40 PM
Id love a bigger TB. how did you do it and how much to get the butterfly fabed?

gainage?

aaronng
24-06-2008, 02:53 PM
^^ He said it is a TL throttle body.

Suntzu
24-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Hmm im thinking VTC cam timing mod for 45 degrees now. Go go go!

Great stuff

EUR003act
25-06-2008, 12:20 AM
Hmm im thinking VTC cam timing mod for 45 degrees now. Go go go!

Great stuff

physically changing it to 45degrees wont give you any gain... you have to do that, and then tune ecu to electronically advance out to 45degrees aswell... that would require K20 ecu with kpro... starts getting very expensive :(

2002 TeGgY
25-06-2008, 12:27 AM
why didnt you go with the RBC instead of the PRB?

EUR003act
25-06-2008, 08:24 AM
why didnt you go with the RBC instead of the PRB?

lol already got the RBC intake manifold... the PRB i refer to is the PRB cylinder head... :D

2002 TeGgY
25-06-2008, 01:00 PM
o ok lol, looking good man. if you dont mind me asking, where did you source the RBC? il looking for one for my DC5

aaronng
25-06-2008, 01:30 PM
o ok lol, looking good man. if you dont mind me asking, where did you source the RBC? il looking for one for my DC5

JDMYard has 1 RBC. I saw it in the display case.

EuroAccord13
25-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Japan is the first port of call for all your RBC needs!!!!!! But mind you, those Malaysian and Singaporeans are snapping them up fast so hurry!

aaronng
25-06-2008, 02:22 PM
If you want it now now now, then JDMYard. Otherwise, ask perfectrun.com.au for a quote.

EUR003act
25-06-2008, 11:23 PM
o ok lol, looking good man. if you dont mind me asking, where did you source the RBC? il looking for one for my DC5

i got mine off ebay... direct from seller in japan...

but as the others said, JDM yard has 1...

i paid about $300... but ive seen the go for anywhere between $200 to $400...

EUR003act
04-07-2008, 06:39 PM
UPDATE:

Received my JDM K20A Integra TypeR cams from TODA AU this week :D

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF1995Medium.jpg

Once again Adrian has provided me with a top quality product, backed up by exceptional customer service... Thankyou Adrian

----------------------------------------------------------

I also received my ARP headstuds... Its all coming together!

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF1997Medium.jpg

Suntzu
04-07-2008, 06:53 PM
What are you using for engine tuning?

i cant wait for you to install these. Bags shotgun.

EUR003act
04-07-2008, 07:02 PM
What are you using for engine tuning?

i cant wait for you to install these. Bags shotgun.

lol stock ECU :p

haha shhh... it'll work :thumbsup:

and yes, you can be the first OZHonda member to ride shotgun lol

Suntzu
06-07-2008, 03:49 PM
How did you do the research on what cams fit and whats needed since there doesn't seem to be much here on this mod?

Interested in your planning and expectations as it something i would like if it goes well.

Are the cams expensive?

enkay
06-07-2008, 06:46 PM
i think any k-series cams work, just some wont have any gains (even losses) unless u use an ecu.
thats from what i understand.
thou some cams are i guess not that much different from stock that it can work with stock ecu settings? haha im not sure

felixd
06-07-2008, 08:42 PM
wow this is gonna be awsome builds mate bet you this will ripp those v8's haha i wanna see those v8's cry :O HONDA FTW

yfin
06-07-2008, 09:11 PM
wow this is gonna be awsome builds mate bet you this will ripp those v8's haha i wanna see those v8's cry :O HONDA FTW

keep dreaming!

ALN
07-07-2008, 08:46 PM
which toda cams spec is that ? is that spec C of k20a?

EUR003act
12-07-2008, 09:04 PM
which toda cams spec is that ? is that spec C of k20a?

sorry only a quick reply - im away with work again...

theyre not TODA cams... they are JDM ITR cams supplied to me by Adrian from TODA...

im hoping it'll all work well with no tuning, ecu should be able to relearn, thats what im counting on anyway...

and if your talking about the 5L V8 commodores, i can already beat them :D

Suntzu
12-07-2008, 10:01 PM
So that means they are stock Integra VTIR cams yes?

aaronng
12-07-2008, 10:04 PM
So that means they are stock Integra VTIR cams yes?

VTIRs use B series engines. EUR003act's engine is a K series.

enkay
13-07-2008, 08:13 AM
hm i wonder what its like to put the 06 cams in my 04 =P

lookin forward to your results haha

aaronng
13-07-2008, 10:33 AM
hm i wonder what its like to put the 06 cams in my 04 =P

lookin forward to your results haha

No difference. 06 and 04 are meant to be the same for AUDM.

enkay
13-07-2008, 11:23 AM
o really, hmm what about the tsx 06 cams?
where those the ones that changed?

aaronng
13-07-2008, 12:49 PM
o really, hmm what about the tsx 06 cams?
where those the ones that changed?

Yes, the 06 TSX ones are different. So if you want to try those, make sure you get 06 TSX, not AUDM or JDM 06.

Most of the additional power for the TSX06 comes from the larger inlet ports, larger throttle body, larger exhaust and high flow cat though. If you change just the cams alone, you won't get the same as what an 06 TSX does.

enkay
13-07-2008, 05:48 PM
ah ic ic *gains to knowlege* =P
o wells i prob wont touch cams unless a reasonable priced ecu comes along that works haha

johnprocter
14-07-2008, 12:24 AM
shit man whens all this getting installed and dynoed!?!?

EUR003act
17-07-2008, 05:47 PM
the head is still over in the USA... ive got a business "looking at it" lol

hopefully i should get it back in 2-3weeks... then ive got to get a custom 3" intake (CAI or SRI) made up for it... then im taking the car around to my friends workshop... im doing all the larborous tasks, and he's gonna do the harder parts, like valve clearance/blue printing/compression testing/P2V clearance...

should only take 2-3 days to complete the install, including port matching and polish (DIY) on my RBC manifold to the J32A3 throttle body...

then after its been broken in for a few days (let the ecu try relearn everything) ill take it around to a shop to be dynoed... im gonna take it to the same two places ive been before so i can get a rough comparison...

EUR003act
17-07-2008, 05:50 PM
So that means they are stock Integra VTIR cams yes?

stock JDM 06' DC5R cams... or Acura 06' RSX-S cams (apperently the exact same)

johnprocter
17-07-2008, 06:42 PM
**** dude i wonder how this will compare to gains from extreme package of jtune (if it ever gets made lol) how much will all this cost u all up roughly?

EUR003act
19-07-2008, 01:51 PM
**** dude i wonder how this will compare to gains from extreme package of jtune (if it ever gets made lol) how much will all this cost u all up roughly?

im already putting out very similar power to jtune extreme...

jtune say i stock euro puts out approx 125kw, and now make 158kw..
thats a gain of approx 33kw

the dyno i used says a stock euro puts out approx 102kw, i now make 133kw...
thats a gain of approx 31kw

keep in mind i still have stock exhaust (cat back) and NO ecu tuning...

jtune package does seem to be better because of the flatter power band, and increase in torque... however, is it really worth having a loud obnoxious exhaust that vibrates and overheats for that extra torque?

so yes, once ive done all this i can easily see my car putting out well more than jtune extreme package... i dont wanna put a figure on it yet, as i have no idea how the ecu will cope with the dramatic flow changes...

aaronng
19-07-2008, 05:37 PM
^^ but, 102kW was not your Euro. There is quite a big difference across the dyno results of stock Euros. You might have a good condition engine that puts out much more than 102kW when stock

EUR003act
22-07-2008, 04:22 PM
^^ but, 102kW was not your Euro. There is quite a big difference across the dyno results of stock Euros. You might have a good condition engine that puts out much more than 102kW when stock

true... all i was trying to point out was... im nearly 100% sue that after this ill be putting down alot more power than the jtune package... without the loud annoying exhaust problems...

yfin
22-07-2008, 06:20 PM
true... all i was trying to point out was... im nearly 100% sue that after this ill be putting down alot more power than the jtune package... without the loud annoying exhaust problems...

Maybe you are making close to the same peak power - but how relevant is peak power in day to day driving? What you get with the Jtune extreme is huge torque improvement right across the rev range as well as massive increases in power from 4000rpm onwards.

Anyway, my point is - be careful about focussing too much on peak power comparisons. With a custom tune you can work on making improvements across the rev range. At the moment you have no tune - so comparing your car to jtune extreme is somewhat premature.

EUR003act
23-07-2008, 08:42 PM
Maybe you are making close to the same peak power - but how relevant is peak power in day to day driving? What you get with the Jtune extreme is huge torque improvement right across the rev range as well as massive increases in power from 4000rpm onwards.

Anyway, my point is - be careful about focussing too much on peak power comparisons. With a custom tune you can work on making improvements across the rev range. At the moment you have no tune - so comparing your car to jtune extreme is somewhat premature.

yeah i agree, thats why i said this:

jtune package does seem to be better because of the flatter power band, and increase in torque... however, is it really worth having a loud obnoxious exhaust that vibrates and overheats for that extra torque?

are there even any extreme packages (other than prototype) actually out there on euros? thats another problem, its nice for jtune to show there massive increase in torque, but thats only on their dyno sheets, not cutomer cars...

anyway, no need to argue, this isnt about jtune, this is about me trying new things :D lol

ALN
23-07-2008, 09:31 PM
The flatter or smoother power band obtained from ecu tuning tho, not just happened by itself or caused by additional parts. Logically, with camshaft and intake manifold modification + I/H/E you will produce more power than Jtune extreme package, why bother. But I would really suggest ecu tuning tho along with it.

Suntzu
04-08-2008, 05:23 PM
Any updates on this Eurooact?

Im keen for info since your breaking new ground!

EUR003act
04-08-2008, 05:35 PM
Any updates on this Eurooact?

Im keen for info since your breaking new ground!

Head is still over in the USA getting "looked" at...

Throttle Body is finished and ready to go...

And i think i found a guy to make up the custom intake for me...

:D

Suntzu
04-08-2008, 05:38 PM
What are they looking at exactly? Is there a problem or some kind of custom head work?

EUR003act
04-08-2008, 06:30 PM
What are they looking at exactly? Is there a problem or some kind of custom head work?

lol i cant tell you... its a secret :p

johnprocter
04-08-2008, 07:52 PM
zomg twin turbo euro LOL *wishes*

Crapdaz
04-08-2008, 10:36 PM
his secretly getting the comptech supercharger shipped here. shhhhhhhhhshhh joking

felixd
04-08-2008, 10:55 PM
damn probably he is shipping the SC erghhhhh cant wait to see the finish project bro :)

johnprocter
05-08-2008, 06:49 AM
i saw the comptech SC the other day on ebay america for REALLY cheap for the manual if anyones interested, the bids were around 2000 when i saw i think there trying to get rid of the stock

EUR003act
05-08-2008, 07:38 AM
lol no super charger unfortunately...

i dont want to say too much because i dont know if its going to work :( lol

but its definately still staying naturally aspirated :p

tony1234
05-08-2008, 07:55 AM
i saw the comptech SC the other day on ebay america for REALLY cheap for the manual if anyones interested, the bids were around 2000 when i saw i think there trying to get rid of the stock
Problem is the Hondata flash for the SC is for the TSX and apparently wont work with our ECU.:(

Crapdaz
05-08-2008, 08:17 AM
lol no super charger unfortunately...

i dont want to say too much because i dont know if its going to work :( lol

but its definately still staying naturally aspirated :p
you're a champion for taking so much risk!!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

prob will turn out pretty hectic.

Suntzu
05-08-2008, 10:21 AM
Problem is the Hondata flash for the SC is for the TSX and apparently wont work with our ECU.:(

I wonder if my mild Jtune flash ( mine was done by doug at hondata in the usa) would work with the SC kit? Doubt it.

aaronng
05-08-2008, 10:31 AM
I wonder if my mild Jtune flash ( mine was done by doug at hondata in the usa) would work with the SC kit? Doubt it.

If you get doug to flash in the SC map instead, it should work.

johnprocter
05-08-2008, 02:06 PM
i wonder if my mild jtune flash ( mine was done by doug at hondata in the usa) would work with the sc kit? Doubt it.

do it!!!!!!!!!!!

tony1234
05-08-2008, 03:02 PM
If you get doug to flash in the SC map instead, it should work.
Hmmm.Interesting.2K SC on ebay,ECU flash for SC from Hondata.Just have to send ECU to Hondata in US.Wonder if it's feasible $$$wise?

aaronng
05-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Hmmm.Interesting.2K SC on ebay,ECU flash for SC from Hondata.Just have to send ECU to Hondata in US.Wonder if it's feasible $$$wise?
You have to confirm with Doug that he is able to flash an Aus ECU with his map like how he did with Suntzu's. Also need to find out more details from Suntzu if he is using the Aus or US ECU.

Suntzu
05-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Yeah i dunno about that. I cant see the cheap SC kits on ebay anymore so my fantasy ends.

tony1234
05-08-2008, 04:09 PM
You have to confirm with Doug that he is able to flash an Aus ECU with his map like how he did with Suntzu's. Also need to find out more details from Suntzu if he is using the Aus or US ECU.
I was sure it wouldn't be as easy as it sounds.

Crapdaz
05-08-2008, 05:48 PM
prob alot easier to just turbo the euro.
but then may lose A/C and all.

aaronng
05-08-2008, 05:56 PM
prob alot easier to just turbo the euro.
but then may lose A/C and all.
Why would you lose A/C? Spend some money and either get the Euro1 ECU or the k20A kpro'd ECU with custom harness. You get to keep the A/C but lose the immobiliser.

EUR003act
06-08-2008, 07:45 PM
just received an email from the guys in the US...

my cylinder head is ready to be shipped to AUSSIE :D

im organising payment now, hopefully get it in the next week or two :thumbsup:

johnprocter
06-08-2008, 08:06 PM
holy as.s cant wait feels like iam the one buying it LOL

Suntzu
06-08-2008, 09:22 PM
Stop being a princess and pony up the details please!

EUR003act
06-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Stop being a princess and pony up the details please!

i did that with my rsx-s seat project and then i never got to buy the seats... i dont want to disappoint any of you by getting ur hopes up lol

Crapdaz
06-08-2008, 09:56 PM
time to get bride seats now, be boy racer on the interior!!! DO IT!!!

EUR003act
06-08-2008, 10:00 PM
lol i dont wanna loose my airbags!

and i live in canberra, kinda love my heated seats in the morning :p lol

but for now, im hoping this project will turn out alot better than that one...

Crapdaz
06-08-2008, 10:14 PM
lol i dont wanna loose my airbags!

and i live in canberra, kinda love my heated seats in the morning :p lol

but for now, im hoping this project will turn out alot better than that one...

hahaha dude, i have the same problem, i want to get a bride bucket but i don't want to lose heated seats. sucks to have luxury when your modding.
will lose foglights and headlight washers when i get kit installed.

aaronng
07-08-2008, 01:45 PM
hahaha dude, i have the same problem, i want to get a bride bucket but i don't want to lose heated seats. sucks to have luxury when your modding.
will lose foglights and headlight washers when i get kit installed.

Solution: Electric blanket over Bride bucket seat.

Crapdaz
07-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Solution: Electric blanket over Bride bucket seat.

damn, would do it but then need to get engineering cert and all.

aaronng
07-08-2008, 03:18 PM
Even if you went to get it engineered, they wouldn't give you the cert because you are disabling a safety feature. :)

Crapdaz
07-08-2008, 07:15 PM
Even if you went to get it engineered, they wouldn't give you the cert because you are disabling a safety feature. :)
yeh i know that's why it sux! i wanna cry now hahahaa

krogoth
07-08-2008, 08:20 PM
lol

i hate heated seats, i dont get how u guys put up with it

i get into the car on a a 9degree morning, window down, and outside air on, the seat is on fire within 5minutes, lol

tony1234
07-08-2008, 09:23 PM
Heated seats FTW.

Crapdaz
08-08-2008, 07:27 AM
lol

i hate heated seats, i dont get how u guys put up with it

i get into the car on a a 9degree morning, window down, and outside air on, the seat is on fire within 5minutes, lol

not for me, takes me ages to get warm in the seat.
but i try not to use it.

EUR003act
08-08-2008, 07:52 AM
lol

i hate heated seats, i dont get how u guys put up with it

i get into the car on a a 9degree morning, window down, and outside air on, the seat is on fire within 5minutes, lol

i get into my car... on a -2 degree morning... car is completly frozen... get inside, its so cold my hand nearly sticks to the aluminium gearknob... turn the seats on, 3-4mins later, my ass and back are warm :D

Crapdaz
08-08-2008, 09:27 AM
i get into my car... on a -2 degree morning... car is completly frozen... get inside, its so cold my hand nearly sticks to the aluminium gearknob... turn the seats on, 3-4mins later, my ass and back are warm :D

yeahh ahhaha similiar to when i leave late from sister's place, if i dont have the temp knob turned to warm.... more than 3/4(25-45mins) of the trip home i'd be frozen in my seat...... especially your aluminium shift knobs.

EUR003act
08-08-2008, 05:43 PM
just got an email from USPS...

My head was posted today! :D:D:D:D:D:D

should have it next week hopefully...

damn, its gonnna arrive before i get my head gasket and tools required lol

Crapdaz
08-08-2008, 09:12 PM
ROFLMAO!!! too bad, your the one on impulse mate. *thumbs up to you*

EUR003act
10-08-2008, 04:46 PM
a post of possible interest to some people?

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1842141&postcount=8

Suntzu
10-08-2008, 05:36 PM
Ok so once you put the K20Z head on your K24 what are you going to do about tuning or you think it will be ok? Also, im gunna guess that the USA shop is modding the k20z head for the K24 with the coolant lines issue and so on. I wonder what your new compression ratio will be??

Im pretty interested in this mod. Its very exciting and you are a brave man indeed.

That being said who do you trust to do the head work in canberra? Id like to do a few things but have no idea who is a good operator in canberra.

Keep the updates coming..

EUR003act
10-08-2008, 06:05 PM
Ok so once you put the K20Z head on your K24 what are you going to do about tuning or you think it will be ok? Also, im gunna guess that the USA shop is modding the k20z head for the K24 with the coolant lines issue and so on. I wonder what your new compression ratio will be??

Im pretty interested in this mod. Its very exciting and you are a brave man indeed.

That being said who do you trust to do the head work in canberra? Id like to do a few things but have no idea who is a good operator in canberra.

Keep the updates coming..

nah im not getting any adaption mods done, the K20Z head should be direct bolt onto K24 block... my compression ratio should stay the same, i am however going to use the Cometic 0.027" gasket which will raise comp slightly.

time permitting when i do the build we will find out static comp ratio (im interested in it too :D)

as said earlier, im hoping that the stock ecu will cope with the new head and re-learn its maps. im getting a good friend (who has been a mechanic for a long long time, most of it spent building high performance rally engines) to help me do the swap. he is very keen with hondas ecu's and reckons itll have no problem coping. the only thing we've got to look out for is axing out the injectors or fuel pump/regulator and the car running lean. im trying to do everything properly, including:
-ARP headstuds
-Cometic headgasket
-New cam chain
-New gaskets and oil rings throughout
-piston to valve clearance checks
-valve clearance
-vtec solonoid check and vtc actuated check
-cylinder compression testing
-air/fuel ratio monitoring

i tried to do research into someone in canberra to the swap for me, the only people i saw fit to do it (other than my friend) was honda because they know hondas and have the specific tools. but labour there wouldve been HUGE and i want to do alot of it myself to make sure no corners are cut...

that all being said, its costing me a fair bit getting all the honda specific tools lol but if this all works, im sure one of you guys can hire them off me for your builds :p lol

aaronng
10-08-2008, 06:09 PM
a post of possible interest to some people?

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1842141&postcount=8
Nice. Thanks for that!


nah im not getting any adaption mods done, the K20Z head should be direct bolt onto K24 block... my compression ratio should stay the same, i am however going to use the Cometic 0.027" gasket which will raise comp slightly.

time permitting when i do the build we will find out static comp ratio (im interested in it too :D)

as said earlier, im hoping that the stock ecu will cope with the new head and re-learn its maps.
It would be a good idea to check if there are additional coolant lines required when mating the head and block together.

Also, the ECU will not relearn the map enough for different cams. All the ECU does is alter fuel trim. You still need to alter the ignition map a well. But it will run anyway. Let us know how it copes with the new cams.

BTW, are you getting the K20Z3 head including the cams? Or are you running the K20A2 cams from Toda?

EUR003act
10-08-2008, 07:13 PM
It would be a good idea to check if there are additional coolant lines required when mating the head and block together.

from every other K20/K24 frankenstien ive seen, no i havent seen any other additional coolant lines required. the only mod others normally do is change the K24 oil pump to the K20s for increased rpm (as the stock K24A1/4 blocks they normally use only rev to around 6000rpm). but because im keeping stock rev limit i dont see the need to change it.


Also, the ECU will not relearn the map enough for different cams. All the ECU does is alter fuel trim. You still need to alter the ignition map a well. But it will run anyway. Let us know how it copes with the new cams.

i was more talking about the fact that with higher lift theyll be more air going into the cylinders (if the duration is the same) and the ecu will hopefully relearn that. ill definately let you all know tho :p hopefully for the best!


BTW, are you getting the K20Z3 head including the cams? Or are you running the K20A2 cams from Toda?

i got the K20Z1 head (off the 2006 RSX-S) it is coming with cams, which are apparently one spec down from the K20A typeR cams. ill be meassuring them all up and using the better set...

aaronng
10-08-2008, 07:32 PM
i was more talking about the fact that with higher lift theyll be more air going into the cylinders (if the duration is the same) and the ecu will hopefully relearn that. ill definately let you all know tho :p hopefully for the best!
Yeah, that's my worry. It will alter when in closed loop mode while relying on the O2 sensor. But at WOT open loop mode, it relys on the settings in the ECU, not the O2 sensor. My Euro did about 12:1 AFR on Toda's dyno, so you have a bit of space before 13.5:1.



i got the K20Z1 head (off the 2006 RSX-S) it is coming with cams, which are apparently one spec down from the K20A typeR cams. ill be meassuring them all up and using the better set...
K20Z1 engine was rated for 210hp, 160kW. Are your K20A cams the AUDM or JDM version?

EUR003act
10-08-2008, 07:48 PM
Yeah, that's my worry. It will alter when in closed loop mode while relying on the O2 sensor. But at WOT open loop mode, it relys on the settings in the ECU, not the O2 sensor. My Euro did about 12:1 AFR on Toda's dyno, so you have a bit of space before 13.5:1.


K20Z1 engine was rated for 210hp, 160kW. Are your K20A cams the AUDM or JDM version?

yeah im looking at installing a air/fuel meter for the breakk in process...

according to adrian and the markings on the cams, mine are the JDM ones, 220hp... but i can only confirm this after ive measured the typeS cams...

Nepolian
10-08-2008, 08:01 PM
Hi, Im probably gonna look in to this type of mod in the near furture. Can I ask why you didnt go for a local K20A2 head?

tony1234
10-08-2008, 08:12 PM
yeah im looking at installing a air/fuel meter for the breakk in process...

according to adrian and the markings on the cams, mine are the JDM ones, 220hp... but i can only confirm this after ive measured the typeS cams...
I suggest you PM DR HONDA (Phill) here for a bit of advice.He's a Honda tech and has rebuilt a number of K series engines the latest being one that he installed in a Civic, was running low 12s at WSID and it was making 165kw ATW i think.Here's a link to a for sale thread of his with an engine he built.http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93567

EUR003act
10-08-2008, 11:09 PM
Hi, Im probably gonna look in to this type of mod in the near furture. Can I ask why you didnt go for a local K20A2 head?

well heads in aus were over priced (from what i found)... and the one i found in the USA had low kms on it and at a reasonable price. plus (correct me if im wrong) the K20Z uses the same valve spring/retainer set up as the K20A typeR motor... which was a plus...

but when it comes down to it, i wanted it looked at by a guy in the states, and rather than buy a head here, post it to USA, then have it sent back. it was more econimical to buy it there and only sent overseas once :)


and tony, as for DR HONDA, yeah ive spoken to him a few times, seems like a very smart guy! i think he lives in melb? if i lived closer to him, he'd definately be helping with my build! mmmmm if only i could get 165atw!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

i suppose ill just have to wait and see what my secret weapon puts down ;) lol

fatfish
11-08-2008, 08:59 PM
and tony, as for DR HONDA, yeah ive spoken to him a few times, seems like a very smart guy! i think he lives in melb?

he live in sydney

EUR003act
11-08-2008, 09:26 PM
he live in sydney

cheers buddy :)

EUR003act
16-08-2008, 09:13 PM
went into see my good buddy at honda the other day to get prices for all my parts... good news is, parts will arrrive this week some time... bad news is, the tools cost about $1500! :eek:

but not to worry, im just going to borrow the tools from my mate :)

and in another step of goodluck, the dealership itself have offered for me to bring the car in and hook the ecu up to there computer for a full idle/map learn procedure on the new head :D free of charge!

lol it seems theyre just as keen to see if it works as i am lol :thumbsup:

johnprocter
16-08-2008, 09:22 PM
thats awesome news dude cant wait to see this bad boy in play :D

Suntzu
17-08-2008, 11:43 AM
I love this thread. Im going to be next once this beast is unleashed!

EUR003act
17-08-2008, 03:10 PM
hehe got bored of waiting for my parts to arrive, so i decided id take my front bumper off so its easier getting the car on and off jacks and stuff... then it got me thinking... and this is what came of that thinking :p

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2115Medium.jpg

aaronng
17-08-2008, 03:22 PM
I still stand by my theory that the k24a is out of breath above 5000rpm, so it would be interesting to see your dyno results. Can't wait! :thumbsup:

EUR003act
19-08-2008, 09:04 PM
I still stand by my theory that the k24a is out of breath above 5000rpm, so it would be interesting to see your dyno results. Can't wait! :thumbsup:

hehe thats why im doing all my breathing mods... :p lol

anyway, update, the aluminium piping and silicon joiners for my custom intake arrived today, mmmm 3" CAI :thumbsup: lol

and here are some more pics of the cars progress:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/sendMedium.jpg
(the colour in this one is all crazy, the camera made it all red so i had to try correct it in photoshop)

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2119Medium.jpg

xsite85
21-08-2008, 11:59 AM
NOoo..!!! it's damaged

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 01:47 PM
NOoo..!!! it's damaged

lol nah just ready for alot of work to be done lol

received my aluminium piping yesterday, and spent last night in the garage measuring and cutting to size, then went out this morning to Eric at Custom Fabrication and got it all welded up :) and OMG he did an awesome job! ill post some pics tonight :thumbsup::thumbsup:

now i have my very own custom made 3" CL9 K20 swap (TB positioning) Short Ram Intake / Cold Air Intake :p

misteR_bilzz
21-08-2008, 01:52 PM
hehe got bored of waiting for my parts to arrive, so i decided id take my front bumper off so its easier getting the car on and off jacks and stuff... then it got me thinking... and this is what came of that thinking :p



umm what came of that thinking? i see a headlight with its lense off...

or is it what im thinking.....

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 05:28 PM
umm what came of that thinking? i see a headlight with its lense off...

or is it what im thinking.....

:eek:

you sir need to step outside and have a good long look at your euro... lol someone of your stature should be able to spot the difference! :p

Min988
21-08-2008, 05:55 PM
:eek:

you sir need to step outside and have a good long look at your euro... lol someone of your stature should be able to spot the difference! :p\

Did you get rid of that linely parker light thing?

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 06:04 PM
lol yes that...

and blacked out the parking lights panel, and sprayed the whole reflector housing matt black, except for three chrome rings :)

heres some photos for those of you that dont know your euros well enough :p

BEFORE
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Before.jpg

HALFWAY
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Halfway.jpg

AFTER
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/After.jpg

Min988
21-08-2008, 06:12 PM
That's another EUR003act original move there. I didn't even notice but looks awesome now that you've pointed it out.

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 06:22 PM
That's another EUR003act original move there. I didn't even notice but looks awesome now that you've pointed it out.

lol cheers buddy, got the idea off a pic i saw of another euro who had done it, he hadnt left the chrome rings tho and it looked really dull...

enkay
21-08-2008, 06:24 PM
yer it looks good! might be something i would do in the future(thou no idea how to), dechrome my euro as much as i can haha =P

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 06:29 PM
Here are some pics of the new custom intake:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Image006Medium.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Image002Medium.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2134Medium.jpg

2.5" K&N vs. Custom 3"
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2135Medium.jpg

Thanks to Eric @ Custom Fabrication and Repairs

hooyn
21-08-2008, 06:37 PM
thats huge
pics of black headlight housings !

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 06:41 PM
thats huge

mmm full of 3" goodness lol


pics of black headlight housings !

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2112Medium.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2114Medium.jpg

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

hooyn
21-08-2008, 06:49 PM
i mean pic with them on car :P

misteR_bilzz
21-08-2008, 06:57 PM
haha i notice it now that you mention it :P its a subtle change :thumbsup:

Euro08Jaz
21-08-2008, 09:58 PM
lol its funny that no one noticed, i was looking at first going thats an extreme weight saving move take of your headlights?! but now that you point out the diffrence looks very nice :thumbsup:

johnprocter
21-08-2008, 10:12 PM
how much does the euro weigh?

EUR003act
21-08-2008, 10:21 PM
i mean pic with them on car :P

well theres no front bar on my car... lol so it wont look too good right now...

and also i havent finished with them just yet :p

so they wont be going back on for a lil bit...

but i promise as soon as theyre back on ill take pics

vte18c
22-08-2008, 10:02 AM
how much does the euro weigh?

1400? Is it true the Euro R is only 1150?? If so where exactly is the 250kg weight saving made? I'm guessing a fair bit would be in the sound deadening etc

*getting out my screw drivers and socket set*

OP- the headlight mod looks the goods, love the CAI.

Suntzu
22-08-2008, 02:20 PM
On the headlight thing whats the difference between stock headlights and the one you have above?

Is it like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories___04-05-06-ACURA-TSX-JDM-BLACK-PROJECTOR-HEAD-LIGHTS-LAMP_W0QQitemZ300251807455QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20Acce ssoriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300251807 455&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

EUR003act
22-08-2008, 04:53 PM
On the headlight thing whats the difference between stock headlights and the one you have above?

Is it like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories___04-05-06-ACURA-TSX-JDM-BLACK-PROJECTOR-HEAD-LIGHTS-LAMP_W0QQitemZ300251807455QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20Acce ssoriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300251807 455&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

nope not like that one...

that one has the clear indicator lens... but i just removed mine (using chrome/orange globes)...

notice how my reflector housing is black... theirs is chrome...

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2114Medium.jpg

vs.

http://www.stylishautoparts.com/headlights/hl_tsx04jmks.jpg

xsite85
22-08-2008, 05:56 PM
those headlights will go very well with my stealth cruiser

black on black.. i'm getting my 20% tints soon as well

would i get defected if i tinted my rear tail lights?

EuroAccord13
22-08-2008, 05:56 PM
Buying the set from the US will also mean that you are going to start blinding oncoming cars as the headlights are meant for LHD TSX/Euros....

EUR003act
25-08-2008, 08:37 PM
hehe more parts arrived today... ive been stressing out trying to make sure i havent forgotten anything!

plus my cylinder head is sitting in customs in sydney :( ive gotta arrange for clearance to be done... slowing things down again!

anyway, heres a quick pic of my (parents lol) lounge room :D

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/My-partsMedium.jpg

Crapdaz
25-08-2008, 08:42 PM
nice man,

your parents telling you your wasting money and you should buy a house??

EUR003act
25-08-2008, 09:22 PM
nice man,

your parents telling you your wasting money and you should buy a house??

haha yep... but theyre just jealous :p

johnprocter
25-08-2008, 09:23 PM
HAHA dude wtf LOL

Crapdaz
26-08-2008, 03:54 PM
haha yep... but theyre just jealous :p
funny mate,
i am in the same boat but not as hectic as you hahaha.

Euro08Jaz
26-08-2008, 04:37 PM
lol i could hardly afford my car and go 2 uni if i wer'nt for parents, if staying at home = mods for car, it works for me

EUR003act
26-08-2008, 04:51 PM
MORE PARTS ARRIVED :D

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Updated-partsLarge.jpg

aaronng
26-08-2008, 04:59 PM
Is that a toilet roll in the front!?!

EUR003act
26-08-2008, 05:01 PM
Is that a toilet roll in the front!?!

hahaha nah its cotton cloth... usually used for cleaning weapons, but its awesome for soaking up oil :p

aaronng
26-08-2008, 05:13 PM
hahaha nah its cotton cloth... usually used for cleaning weapons, but its awesome for soaking up oil :p
I have to get some for myself. Where did you buy that from?

EUR003act
26-08-2008, 05:15 PM
I have to get some for myself. Where did you buy that from?

hehe got it from my army unit :p

ill try find out where they source it from...

aaronng
26-08-2008, 05:18 PM
hehe got it from my army unit :p

ill try find out where they source it from...
I'll try the local camping disposal!

LXRY
26-08-2008, 07:16 PM
lol yes that...

and blacked out the parking lights panel, and sprayed the whole reflector housing matt black, except for three chrome rings :)

heres some photos for those of you that dont know your euros well enough :p

BEFORE
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Before.jpg

HALFWAY
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Halfway.jpg

AFTER
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/After.jpg

Talk about a great idea.......what are they feeding you guys in the ACT ;)

Crapdaz
26-08-2008, 07:59 PM
hahaha nah its cotton cloth... usually used for cleaning weapons, but its awesome for soaking up oil :p

nah it's funnier to say it's a toilet roll. :thumbsup:
damn man, you must be trained to be RAMBO to get so much money for parts.

EUR003act
26-08-2008, 08:05 PM
nah it's funnier to say it's a toilet roll. :thumbsup:
damn man, you must be trained to be RAMBO to get so much money for parts.

haha nah i just have always put my car first... like seriously before everything lol i cant help it, its like an obsession lol

i just want to get it all done! its looking like the build wont be done till the 22nd september :( still, better than nothing

johnprocter
26-08-2008, 08:44 PM
what exhaust is that bro?

raz05
26-08-2008, 09:18 PM
what exhaust is that bro?

I want to know too

EUR003act
26-08-2008, 09:21 PM
Comptech USA, Acura TSX 2.5" Cat-back exhaust :D

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2155Large.jpg

misteR_bilzz
27-08-2008, 09:18 AM
how much did u pick that up for? pm me if u want..

johnprocter
27-08-2008, 01:23 PM
i'm guessing just over a grand with shipping

LXRY
27-08-2008, 05:38 PM
Comptech USA, Acura TSX 2.5" Cat-back exhaust :D

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2155Large.jpg

NICE ;)


how much did u pick that up for? pm me if u want..

me two.....

EUR003act
27-08-2008, 10:07 PM
i'm guessing just over a grand with shipping

hahaha i wish!

try AUS$1000 for the exhaust... plus AUS$1000 for shipping... :thumbdwn:

oh and before you all burn me about the price of shipping lol i ordered it saturday afternoon, got it tuesday morning... no organising customs clearances or brokers, no extra quarantine/clearance payments, no broker charges... just straight to my door, guy even called me 10min before telling me when he'd be there :)

wish id done that with my cylinder head! went the cheap post option.. it was sent on the 8th... arrived in sydney on the 15th, sat there for 10days without me knowing, got a letter from customs on the 26th, and now im still waiting for a response about when its getting cleared! :(

krogoth
27-08-2008, 10:29 PM
id rather that than 1k, lol

EUR003act
27-08-2008, 10:33 PM
id rather that than 1k, lol

lol ahh but when my broker costs $95, my quarantine is costing $68, and my clearance is costing $48... and thats just prices for a small cylinder head... if that were a huge exhaust (three people fitted in the comptech box - yes i tried) im sure itd be more... plus the cheapest i found (when i looked at shipping prices for it ages ago) was AUS$500, so only double that :p lol

you get what u pay for i suppose :p

krogoth
27-08-2008, 10:40 PM
lol ur crazyyyyyyy

u cooda got some excellent splits for that much, like really really good splits, lol

Darkii_
27-08-2008, 11:40 PM
i would like to have 1k

EUR003act
28-08-2008, 07:52 AM
lol i know i good have also brough alot of p*rn... and i mean alot...

lol but i figured im putting so much money into the engine, what if my exhaust was holding me back :eek: this way theyll be none of that :p haha

oh and im doing a dyno after i fit exhaust (with same parameters as my first one) so we'll see if it makes any difference :p

johnprocter
28-08-2008, 07:55 AM
LOL you better hope it does make a difference :P

IEVAQ8
28-08-2008, 08:22 AM
nice build so far..................

evil R34
28-08-2008, 06:10 PM
nice work :D

evil R34
28-08-2008, 06:13 PM
its awsome to see canberra ppl here lol i see ur car everyday down near jaycar always wondered if there was more to it than meets the eye :P

Crapdaz
28-08-2008, 07:01 PM
yeh his car is filled full of jaycar catalogues.

fatfish
28-08-2008, 09:55 PM
hahaha i wish!

try AUS$1000 for the exhaust... plus AUS$1000 for shipping... :thumbdwn:

oh and before you all burn me about the price of shipping lol i ordered it saturday afternoon, got it tuesday morning... no organising customs clearances or brokers, no extra quarantine/clearance payments, no broker charges... just straight to my door, guy even called me 10min before telling me when he'd be there :)

wish id done that with my cylinder head! went the cheap post option.. it was sent on the 8th... arrived in sydney on the 15th, sat there for 10days without me knowing, got a letter from customs on the 26th, and now im still waiting for a response about when its getting cleared! :(

do you need to pay the customs for the head to cleared?

Crapdaz
28-08-2008, 09:56 PM
do you need to pay the customs for the head to cleared?

any part over $1k valued on the invoice, incl of shipping cost will have custom tax charges.

But Eur003act what parts did you need to pay tax for if you did?

Nepolian
29-08-2008, 08:15 AM
anything over $1k valued on the invoice incl of shipping cost will have custom tax charges.

But Eur003act what parts did you need to pay tax for if you did?

Im pretty sure its just on the cost of the part itself :)

Very nice build up and price list :)

EUR003act
29-08-2008, 11:46 AM
any part over $1k valued on the invoice, incl of shipping cost will have custom tax charges.

But Eur003act what parts did you need to pay tax for if you did?


Im pretty sure its just on the cost of the part itself :)

Very nice build up and price list :)

paid for my clearance today... and OMG so glad i got the exhaust express...

ok cylinder head cost me AUS$270 for shipping (meant to be 6-10days)...

then i paid AUS$354 for GST, duty, and customs fees + $130 broker fees...

$754 ontop of what i paid for the head and the headwork! :O sooo gay!

IEVAQ8
29-08-2008, 12:50 PM
any pics yet??????????

EUR003act
29-08-2008, 06:09 PM
any pics yet??????????

head should arrive mid next week... ill get pics up the day it arrives! :D

Crapdaz
29-08-2008, 09:16 PM
making me want to change to a RBC manifold as well.... mate..... bad influence.

EUR003act
29-08-2008, 10:53 PM
making me want to change to a RBC manifold as well.... mate..... bad influence.

if your interested, im thinking of making up a complete set of:

RBC (ported to 66mm and modded to fit K24 block)
J32A3 throttle body (port and polished. plus modded to fit RBC)
Custom 3" intake with K&N pod...
all parts needed to complete the swap including doing a throttle body coolant bypass and including a full set of instructions...

and selling it as a pack...

Crapdaz
30-08-2008, 12:13 AM
if your interested, im thinking of making up a complete set of:

RBC (ported to 66mm and modded to fit K24 block)
J32A3 throttle body (port and polished. plus modded to fit RBC)
Custom 3" intake with K&N pod...
all parts needed to complete the swap including doing a throttle body coolant bypass and including a full set of instructions...

and selling it as a pack...

let us know how much PM me :thumbsup:.
but i'll see mate, if i can afford it also.

Euro08Jaz
30-08-2008, 01:39 AM
yea me 2

johnprocter
30-08-2008, 07:51 AM
if your interested, im thinking of making up a complete set of:

RBC (ported to 66mm and modded to fit K24 block)
J32A3 throttle body (port and polished. plus modded to fit RBC)
Custom 3" intake with K&N pod...
all parts needed to complete the swap including doing a throttle body coolant bypass and including a full set of instructions...

and selling it as a pack...

i'll be interested to know after we see the gains :P

EUR003act
30-08-2008, 04:32 PM
i'll be interested to know after we see the gains :P

haha well obviously the first one i sell would be cheap because i dont know what gains itll get... afer proven gains thou... oh damn will the price go up :p lol

i finally finished one of my headlights... it still needs a clean, but here ya go:

two rings:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2217Medium.jpg

three rings:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2216Medium.jpg

EUR003act
30-08-2008, 04:56 PM
and pics of her waiting for the new exhaust and rear sway bar to be fitted :)

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2186Medium.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2188Medium.jpg

Euro08Jaz
30-08-2008, 04:59 PM
lights looks great. well i happen to have a stock euro and conveniently live in canberra...

EG5
30-08-2008, 05:41 PM
I still stand by my theory that the k24a is out of breath above 5000rpm, so it would be interesting to see your dyno results. Can't wait! :thumbsup:

Mine is still making power at 7600 rpm
Stock k24a3 2005 spec with ITR 50 degree VTC
JDMyard Intake manifold + 80mm TB , JDMyard 4-2-1 header , 3 inch exhaust , Metal cat , KPRO
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/egk24/DSC07743.jpg

Euro08Jaz
31-08-2008, 04:09 AM
where the f*** did you come from 156kw?!!?

Darkii_
31-08-2008, 08:43 AM
holy 156kw what a beast

Suntzu
31-08-2008, 08:46 AM
Whats a JDM Intake Manifold and 80mm TB ???

Nice result. Fking nice.

EUR003act
31-08-2008, 08:56 AM
where the f*** did you come from 156kw?!!?


Whats a JDM Intake Manifold and 80mm TB ???

Nice result. Fking nice.

its not in a euro guys calm down lol

im guessing the JDMyard intake manifold he used is the PRB?... used on the majority of K20s...and they mod it to fit bigger TBs? and the 80mm TB could only be used on the euro if you converted it to cable throttle, not drive-by-wire...

but daaaaaaaammmmmnnnnn thats a nice K24 build! if mine works well, i reckon i should sell the euro, take the engine out, and slap it into a lotus elise.... mmmmmmm super light weight rear wheel drive speed demon!

hehe and yes EG5 i agree with you, my euro was making max power at 7400rpm... i reckon with a 8000redline or higher thered be even more power to be had! :D

krogoth
31-08-2008, 09:28 AM
but daaaaaaaammmmmnnnnn thats a nice K24 build! if mine works well, i reckon i should sell the euro, take the engine out, and slap it into a lotus elise.... mmmmmmm super light weight rear wheel drive speed demon!


i really like this idea!

EG5
31-08-2008, 10:02 AM
Whats a JDM Intake Manifold and 80mm TB ???

Nice result. Fking nice.

Sorry to hijack your thread.
But this is what JDMyard Intake manifold set up look like
Proven 11.82sec @ 113.6 mph down the 1/4 mile on my EG hatch chasis.
Stock k24a3 internals!
http://www.jdmyard.com/jdmyard_2006/images/egk24a/11.jpg

aaronng
31-08-2008, 11:46 AM
Mine is still making power at 7600 rpm
Stock k24a3 2005 spec with ITR 50 degree VTC
JDMyard Intake manifold + 80mm TB , JDMyard 4-2-1 header , 3 inch exhaust , Metal cat , KPRO
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/egk24/DSC07743.jpg

I meanty the torque drops off at high rpm, unlike the K20A

EUR003act
31-08-2008, 01:47 PM
Sorry to hijack your thread.
But this is what JDMyard Intake manifold set up look like
Proven 11.82sec @ 113.6 mph down the 1/4 mile on my EG hatch chasis.
Stock k24a3 internals!

you dont realise how badly that makes me want a light car! lol

lol nah not hijacking, just giving me something to try beat :p lol

im so gonna have to go custom ECU setup and tuning lol

***************************************

on another note... PLEASE GO HERE AND TELL ME WHICH DESIGN YOU LIKE BEST :D
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1871782&postcount=7

EUR003act
31-08-2008, 06:19 PM
latest pics... taken last night when i finished both my headlights:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2202Medium.jpg

*light on the left has stock H1 highbeam globe and narva amber indicator globe
*light on the right has Phillips +50% prestiege highbeam globe and Phillips silver vision chrome indicator globe
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2225Medium.jpg

EG5
31-08-2008, 07:44 PM
I meanty the torque drops off at high rpm, unlike the K20A

yeah torque drops on high rpm but on EG hatch its okay
wheel spins from 1st to 4th gear

MangChi
31-08-2008, 09:10 PM
lol love the beer bottles on the table. pure blonde yummm lol
cant wait for your project to be finished

EUR003act
31-08-2008, 09:14 PM
lol love the beer bottles on the table. pure blonde yummm lol
cant wait for your project to be finished

hahaha shhhh... :p

i just hope it all works! lol

aaronng
31-08-2008, 09:16 PM
yeah torque drops on high rpm but on EG hatch its okay
wheel spins from 1st to 4th gear
Yeah, I noticed that all the other engines, B16b/B18c/H22a/K20a all have a bump in torque at high rpm in highcam, except for the euro, even a worked one with internals.... Must be the breathing...

EUR003act
01-09-2008, 05:22 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!

LOOK WHAT ARRIVED TODAY!!!!

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/Image006Medium-1.jpg

AGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

ILL GET MORE PICS OF IT AFTER IVE FINISHED DROOLING!!!

vte18c
01-09-2008, 05:24 PM
I think the fact you let it ride up front with you and even put a seat belt on it demonstrates your excitement for it.. hahaha nice! Cant wait to see it all fitted and tuned.

EUR003act
01-09-2008, 05:40 PM
also arrived today:

Cometic Headgasket

LC-1 wideband A/F gauge/logger

Whiteline RSB

EUR003act
01-09-2008, 07:35 PM
ok so here is the complete install parts on display, everything has arrived :)
(except for my no fat chicks sticker)

im taking close up cyl. head pics as we speak :D :D :D :D :D

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/PARTS-TBSLarge.jpg

IEVAQ8
01-09-2008, 07:39 PM
show us the head.....................

kingfoo
01-09-2008, 07:41 PM
sooo drooling over all those parts right now. can't wait to see the final result.

johnprocter
01-09-2008, 07:49 PM
i R so JEALOUS

EUR003act
01-09-2008, 08:00 PM
The wait is finally over! lol

From the front:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2239Medium.jpg

From the Back:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2243Medium.jpg

Close up of Intake port:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2242Medium.jpg

Close up of Exhaust port:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2245Medium.jpg

The Deck:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2246Medium.jpg

IEVAQ8
01-09-2008, 08:09 PM
very nice,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

aaronng
01-09-2008, 08:17 PM
Looks great!!! THe porting is nice and clean. Can't wait to see your dyno.

EUR003act
01-09-2008, 08:23 PM
Looks great!!! THe porting is nice and clean. Can't wait to see your dyno.

shhhhhhh.... it wasnt ported :o lol

EuroAccord13
01-09-2008, 08:32 PM
Droools....

krogoth
01-09-2008, 08:38 PM
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9696/droolik7.png

woops, forgot to crop

paint skilz fail, lol

kitbkk
02-09-2008, 12:42 PM
nice!!good luck with the build!

Crapdaz
02-09-2008, 03:14 PM
damn man what a beaut.

Mitsubishi
02-09-2008, 09:37 PM
That port is absolutely clean.

Please get a SA ECU and a tune. Do justice!

EUR003act
02-09-2008, 11:11 PM
That port is absolutely clean.

Please get a SA ECU and a tune. Do justice!

you buy me the ecu... ill pay for the tune :p lol

Suntzu
02-09-2008, 11:12 PM
What is a SA ECU ? Is that a ecu that can be used with stock features? News to me.

aaronng
02-09-2008, 11:19 PM
SA = standalone

EUR003act
02-09-2008, 11:43 PM
Just a quick note to all you Euro owners looking at buying an RBC...

DO NOT PURCHASE ONE THAT IS MODDED TO FIT DC5 or OTHER K20...

For the Euro you want the unmodded RBC off either a JDM EuroR or USDM 2006-2007 civic SI...

that is all...

EuroAccord13
03-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Damm this mod is not exclusive anymore LOL!....

Me + Justin + Soon Suntzu?

Suntzu
03-09-2008, 04:06 PM
Yep Im crunching the numbers on RBC versus flywheel + exedy stage1 versus the sucky exchange rate. Might sit it out for a bit and see if we get back to 90cent in the dollar.

I also have to find a thread or something on how to do the nipple mod (whatever that entails) so i can make sure I can handle it with my basic toolset.

aaronng
03-09-2008, 04:49 PM
Yep Im crunching the numbers on RBC versus flywheel + exedy stage1 versus the sucky exchange rate. Might sit it out for a bit and see if we get back to 90cent in the dollar.

I also have to find a thread or something on how to do the nipple mod (whatever that entails) so i can make sure I can handle it with my basic toolset.

If you are after dyno numbers, then don't get flywheel.

Suntzu
03-09-2008, 05:27 PM
If you are after dyno numbers, then don't get flywheel.


Im not after Dyno figures. Im after improved performance and driveability. Potential both mods will have an effect on this.

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 05:41 PM
RBC - say approx AUS$400 landed

Flywheel/Clutch - say approx $1600 installed

Crapdaz
03-09-2008, 06:55 PM
RBC - say approx AUS$400 landed

Flywheel/Clutch - say approx $1600 installed

found a place selling it approx $350 landed.

the 06 civic si rbc.

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 07:24 PM
buy it! :D

you'll be the third RBC euro in aus! :p hahaha

Crapdaz
03-09-2008, 07:25 PM
buy it! :D

you'll be the third RBC euro in aus! :p hahaha
ROFL hahaha i am enquiring the place to see if they can get the correct P2R TB Spacer. Cause the one i got doesnt have the rectangular cut out which suxoRz.

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 07:28 PM
ROFL hahaha i am enquiring the place to see if they can get the correct P2R TB Spacer. Cause the one i got doesnt have the rectangular cut out which suxoRz.

you dont need the rectangular cut out :)

thats for the idle bypass on the non DBW euroR... we dont need it :D

Suntzu
03-09-2008, 07:30 PM
Why do you need the P2R spacer? Is it needed?

Im getting a new gasket as part of the deal.

And I have a hondata headshield gasket on the Intake Manifold and when i do the throttle body heat bypass i cant see how the TB would get any heat....

Im being a sissy about :p it due to the potential loss of torque with my basic mods. The comparative graph of mine and justins dyno shows i have more torque in the crucial 3000-5000 rpm area which is where you drive in traffic. He has a lot more peak power but thats not going to help me drivign home each day.

Thats why im vasilating on the flywheel and clutch option and annoying everyone with my indecisions.

Euro08Jaz
03-09-2008, 07:30 PM
Damm this mod is not exclusive anymore LOL!....

Me + Justin + Soon Suntzu?

and jazz if justin sells me a kit :)

Crapdaz
03-09-2008, 07:30 PM
you dont need the rectangular cut out :)

thats for the idle bypass on the non DBW euroR... we dont need it :D

well i can't use the stock manifold or TB with it as it leaves a gap which can't be covered hence why my car was bouncing revs and popping like pop tarts :thumbsup: i know i am lame hahaaaa


you dont need the rectangular cut out :)

thats for the idle bypass on the non DBW euroR... we dont need it :D
but don't you have like a gap in using the spacer? or does your TB you changed it to not have that feature?

Crapdaz
03-09-2008, 07:32 PM
TB spacer and gasket extends the I-manifold capacity as it stretches the TB further out so you get more air silly.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: more air = good.


Why do you need the P2R spacer? Is it needed?

Im getting a new gasket as part of the deal.

And I have a hondata headshield gasket on the Intake Manifold and when i do the throttle body heat bypass i cant see how the TB would get any heat....

Im being a sissy about :p it due to the potential loss of torque with my basic mods. The comparative graph of mine and justins dyno shows i have more torque in the crucial 3000-5000 rpm area which is where you drive in traffic. He has a lot more peak power but thats not going to help me drivign home each day.

Thats why im vasilating on the flywheel and clutch option and annoying everyone with my indecisions.

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 07:41 PM
maybe you have wrong spacer :eek:

mine fits perfectly... it does have the rectangle cut out, but thats blocked off by the TB... (you'll notice theres a flat alluminium bit under the inlet)

and suntzu: the spacer increase the capacity of the plenum, this leaves more air available to the cylinders... increasing torque and power (not by much) but a little... P2R say theyve got 4.5hp gain atw... now if thats true, thats 3.3kw atw... thats 3300w of energy... thats double the power required to aircondition a normal sized house!


and jazz if justin sells me a kit :)

ive ordered another RBC, and 3x J32A3 throttle bodies lol

so if your keen, ill happily make a kit up for you... and we'll do before/after dyno's :D

Crapdaz
03-09-2008, 07:45 PM
can you PM your price as i will be looking at it.
Soon.

maybe you have wrong spacer :eek:

mine fits perfectly... it does have the rectangle cut out, but thats blocked off by the TB... (you'll notice theres a flat alluminium bit under the inlet)

and suntzu: the spacer increase the capacity of the plenum, this leaves more air available to the cylinders... increasing torque and power (not by much) but a little... P2R say theyve got 4.5hp gain atw... now if thats true, thats 3.3kw atw... thats 3300w of energy... thats double the power required to aircondition a normal sized house!



ive ordered another RBC, and 3x J32A3 throttle bodies lol

so if your keen, ill happily make a kit up for you... and we'll do before/after dyno's :D

Euro08Jaz
03-09-2008, 08:00 PM
maybe you have wrong spacer :eek:

mine fits perfectly... it does have the rectangle cut out, but thats blocked off by the TB... (you'll notice theres a flat alluminium bit under the inlet)

and suntzu: the spacer increase the capacity of the plenum, this leaves more air available to the cylinders... increasing torque and power (not by much) but a little... P2R say theyve got 4.5hp gain atw... now if thats true, thats 3.3kw atw... thats 3300w of energy... thats double the power required to aircondition a normal sized house!



ive ordered another RBC, and 3x J32A3 throttle bodies lol

so if your keen, ill happily make a kit up for you... and we'll do before/after dyno's :D

lol sounds like a plan.

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 08:17 PM
hahaha also just ordered enough parts to make 2x more complete 3" cold air intakes to fit the J32A3 TB on an RBC...

aaronng
03-09-2008, 08:20 PM
What was the price of the throttle body? I'd buy one off you if it works. :)

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 08:30 PM
What was the price of the throttle body? I'd buy one off you if it works. :)

still sorting out shipping price... then ill know totals :)

after ive finished my build, with the help of jaz, ill get results/prove it works... then ill let you all know

aaronng
03-09-2008, 08:32 PM
I want to know if the TB actuator wiring for the Euro will properly operate the J32's actuator. :D

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 08:35 PM
I want to know if the TB actuator wiring for the Euro will properly operate the J32's actuator. :D

ive done everything to test it except actually hook it up the the car... so far so good... will know for sure in a couple of weeks :thumbsup:

Suntzu
03-09-2008, 08:52 PM
hahaha also just ordered enough parts to make 2x more complete 3" cold air intakes to fit the J32A3 TB on an RBC...

i woner how loud it will be. My Fujita CAi drove me nicking futs with the elephants snorting. Good power though.

I think justins going to be a mini-jtune but actually deliver. thats my pick!

EUR003act
03-09-2008, 08:59 PM
i woner how loud it will be. My Fujita CAi drove me nicking futs with the elephants snorting. Good power though.

I think justins going to be a mini-jtune but actually deliver. thats my pick!

hehe i shall call it JPower Intake System..

oh, and yes, itll be loud... definately a mod for those who love honda induction! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Crapdaz
03-09-2008, 09:00 PM
rofl, i find the CAI is actually louder than the SRI (exposed).

would be awesome to hear it justin.

kraiye
04-09-2008, 02:36 AM
hehe i shall call it JPower Intake System..

oh, and yes, itll be loud... definately a mod for those who love honda induction! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

so your selling J PIS ?!!
:D

EUR003act
04-09-2008, 07:50 AM
so your selling J PIS ?!!
:D

hahahaha its the best PIS money can buy :p

kraiye
04-09-2008, 11:55 AM
rofl!!!
now THERE's a marketing gimic for you!!
haha

aaronng
04-09-2008, 12:53 PM
"J PIS. Your mates will piss in their pants when you rev it."

Euro08Jaz
04-09-2008, 03:18 PM
"J PIS. Your mates will piss in their pants when you rev it."

so lame yet i lol'ed.

EUR003act
04-09-2008, 04:21 PM
"Every body wants my J PIS"

hahaha thanks jaz for volunteering to be my guinepig :p

aaronng
04-09-2008, 04:45 PM
J PIS vs Coolpis! Who will win?

johnprocter
04-09-2008, 04:51 PM
LOL just stop it your embarrassing yourself

Crapdaz
04-09-2008, 07:00 PM
we have all stooped down to this level.
*sigh & thumbs up*

kraiye
05-09-2008, 12:03 AM
J PIS vs Coolpis! Who will win?

call yourself a mod?!!! :rolleyes:






:p j/k

Euro08Jaz
05-09-2008, 03:28 AM
"Every body wants my J PIS"

hahaha thanks jaz for volunteering to be my guinepig :p

My pleasure, even if it leads to a continuation of arronngs incredible word plays
:p

aaronng
05-09-2008, 07:27 AM
call yourself a mod?!!! :rolleyes:






:p j/k

Everyone needs to have some fun once in a while ;)

krogoth
05-09-2008, 10:52 AM
??? wats rong with mods that joke?

u obviously dont leave the euro section much to see wat the other mods are like

anyway, back on topic

Justin! give us an updateeeee

johnprocter
05-09-2008, 05:51 PM
COUGH QBALL COUGH wo0000ppsz how inappropriate of me

EUR003act
05-09-2008, 07:27 PM
??? wats rong with mods that joke?

u obviously dont leave the euro section much to see wat the other mods are like

anyway, back on topic

Justin! give us an updateeeee

lol :p

installed the comptech exhaust tonight... will have videos in the next few days... first impression are good... but itll be interesting to see what it sounds like off the jack stands and under load... (as apposed to sitting 2feet in the air free revving...)

:thumbsup:

felixd
05-09-2008, 07:33 PM
wohoooo lovely cant wait :)

aaronng
05-09-2008, 11:34 PM
Eagerly awaiting your vid.

kraiye
06-09-2008, 12:35 AM
??? wats rong with mods that joke?

u obviously dont leave the euro section much to see wat the other mods are like

anyway, back on topic

Justin! give us an updateeeee

y r ppl in this place so firey?
u obviously dont read ppl's whole posts or u wouldn't have missed the ":p j/k" at the end.
it was a JOKE!
mods with humour = the shiznit! :thumbsup:
after all... mods are ppl too u know!

and fyi, this is prob my FIRST time in the Accord section.

HAND :)